₦airaland Forum

HydraFeeds:
Israel has disappeared since the time of the Assyrians . That's over 2000 years ago when they were defeated .

It was recently recreated in 1940s by the British .

At least we both agree isrealis are no strangers in the middle east and were on that land before anything Palestine came into being.
My second question according to facts was at the height of the crisis in 2003,isreali prime minister Ariel Sharon began a move to forcefully evict Thousands of israeli inhabitants in gaza who vowed never to leave gaza but as part of concessions on the part isreal for the sake of peace.
Now tell me how Isreal has been interfering in gaza affairs since 2014 when they completely withdrew and created four different barriers of fencing for separation?
Since gaza has it's own government,was isreal crossing those fencing to go and kill gazans or what like you claim?
How come tens of thousands of gazans were crossing into isreal daily to earn a living if true?
Are you also trying to justify October 7,2023 terrorist attacks by hamas?
Will innocent Palestinians have died this much unfortunately in the absence of this war hamas brought upon gazans?
Please don't pretend like those tunnels ordinary Palestinians can access was priority if not for the sole purpose of war against isreal which has massively failed like we are all seeing right now for hamas.

HydraFeeds:
If you want to go back in history then you're more wrong because the land belongs to Canaanites and biblical genocidal Israel destroyed them after they helped Israel the same thing they're doing now after UK and Palestine helped Israel .

Now about OCT 7th,before then Israel has been killing innocent civilians in Gaza strip and that prompted the Oct 7th,before OCT 7th,there are thousands of Palestinians being held hostages in Israel without negotiation or tried to enable their release or punishment which includes women and children.

In fact ,as far back as early 2000,Israel bulldozered an American for protesting against Israel demolishment of Palestinians homes and a lot of children were sniped just for protesting.

About the armistice,the UN divided the territory into and demarcated it with demilitarised zone(DMZ) ,it was Israel that first broke the DMZ .

No one care about HAMAS,what people care about is the civiliana especially women and children that are being killed in the name of hunting Hamas while Netanyahu publicly said he's pursuing Greater Israel .

So after genocidal isreal destroyed the canaanites according to you,I'm very interested in what happened to the Israelis afterwards. Did they all disappear and what brought Palestinians to that land.Did they just appear there.Since you now agree isrealis have been on that land long before Palestinians?
Then I'd move to my next question.

HydraFeeds:
That's the propaganda that only work against those that are not informed .

1)There's never official statement or position of such .

2) Israel broke the armistice and attacked Palestinian first in the 1940s.

3) Therefore Oct 7th was never the beginning but the 1940s when Israel broke the DMZ .

4) It's Israel that has nuke and has been threatening the world with Samson Options .

5) Israel and western propaganda call Iran genocidal regime but in reality it's Israel with western support that are actively committing genocide in Gaza .

Sorry I wasn't done making my points .
Kindly refer back to give the appropriate answers you think I need.

Proudlyngwa:
The state of Israel is not meant to exist in the first place

I hear you now ,go and wipe them out since Iran ,Yemen,Assad, Hezbollah and hamas has failed.
Same way ISLAMIC Republics of Turkey,Iraq,syria and Iran have taken over the whole of kurdistan over time because they are weak and can't fight back like Israel and take back what rightfully belongs to them.
If not for civilisation, 1000yrs from today greedy Arab Muslims will start calling them invaders and land grabbers.

HydraFeeds:
Who says their goal is to wipe out Israel ?

Who's currently wiping out who ?

Who came to meet who in the territory ?

Lastly , who first broke the armistice ?

Officially Iran,Yemen,Hezbollah, Hamas,ISLAMIC JIHAD.
Because hamas is getting far more than they bargained for.They really underestimated isreali response to October 7,2023 terrorist attacks on isreal.
"Who came to meet who in the territory "
All depends on the century you are talking about but please don't bring 20th century history here when you know humans have been existing in the middle east thousands of years before 1914 or 1947.
That armistice grammar is too big for me o
More seriously October 7,2023 terrorist attack is not a break in truce and over stepping your boundaries irrespective of any pending grievances?

HydraFeeds:
Just a question , let's assume it's a territory , what's wrong with people that owns and control a territory to declare their territory a state/country ?

A territory who goal is to wipe out the state of Israel?
Be honest with yourself, how does that sound to you?

NOETHNICITY:
If Isreal had nothing to hide it wouldn’t prevent independent journalists from getting into Gaza. You guys continue to pretend that Isreal are the morally upright ones here, for God’s sake Isreali officials are saying with their own mouths what they intend to do, and when they do exactly what they say they are going to do, you guys come out to defend them.

The allegations of genocide against Israel is not just according to Hamas, even according to isreali human rights group B’Tselem is Isreali is doing exactly so.

Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
United Nations Experts/Independent Inquiry
Physicians for Human Rights
And most importantly, International Association of Genocide Scholars. Etc
I can keep going on and on and on

Isreali ministers have used words like kill everyone, no single food is going to be allowed in, men women and children are all guilty, we are going to make Gaza a graveyard etc

Ok

NOETHNICITY:
That’s exactly what they are on their way to doing. If not, why aren’t they allowing international journalists to get in.

Even though i don't see that happening but there is actually no need for unnecessary propaganda and lies with those casualty figures.
It's unfortunate toothless hamas have been very unreasonable and selfish while isreal has been very brutal in It's response.
Even if the war ends this minute ,do you realise how far back Hamas has taken It's own people?
For me all I see at this point is selfishness and wickedness from hamas to It's own people assuming we all agree Israel is an enemy.
Are we expecting israel to love Palestinians more than Hamas?

dominique:
By now if you don't know that it's Netanyahu pulling the strings of this so-called Hamas then your cluelessness is irredeemable. Everything was planned by him, including the very October 7th nairalanders won't let us hear word with.

So it was from Netanyahu's custody hamas was releasing isreali hostages in batches?
Una too funny for this nairaland I swear

Bar1941:
Then why are you crying when they killed their brothers?

A man that killed thousands of innocent women and children is not a terrorist but those that threw stones against oppressors are terrorists right?

One day your brain will be formatted to see the truth.

Please who and who please is throwing stones
Is it the ones currently holding isreali hostages
Una too funny for this platform I swear...

asolocoaso:
Disregard this post, this is propaganda from Israel, they are not happy United Kingdom stood firm and recognized palestine.

As the United Kingdom, Canada, and other global powers formally recognize Palestine, a storm of dirty tricks is already bubbling beneath the surface. Brace yourself: false-flag terror attacks, staged and meticulously blamed on Muslims, are not a “maybe.” They are an inevitability, calculated, orchestrated, and packaged to inflame Islamophobia, distract from occupation crimes, and manipulate the global narrative.

We all know the puppet masters. The ones who profit politically, financially, and geopolitically from perpetual chaos in the Middle East. Every explosion, every manufactured headline, every viral video of “suspected terrorists” is not a coincidence, it is a weaponized story designed to deflect outrage, confuse the international community, and intimidate those daring to stand on the side of justice.

Meanwhile, the world watches, weary yet unbowed. The collective moral compass of nations will not be held hostage by propaganda. Regardless of which political ox is gored, regardless of who’s whining in corner offices over lost influence, genocide cannot be ignored. The blood of innocents is not a bargaining chip. It is a call to expose the architects of deceit, dismantle the theater, and hold the real perpetrators accountable.

Let us be clear: every staged crisis, every spin of “terror threat,” every carefully crafted narrative of fear is a test of global conscience. And the world is learning, slowly but surely, that truth cannot be silenced by smoke, mirrors, or cynical manipulation.

History is watching. And justice, real, unflinching justice,will eventually write its ledger.

We don hear you.
As for me,I even want isreal to play politics with this silly UK.
Force them to send their troops to guarantee and secure the borders so these Islamic blood sucker terrorists (hamas) can deal with them since they are quick to forget the London terror bombings.

NOETHNICITY:
Thats their hypocrisy.
Recent figures have shown that Isreal has genocided 650,000 people in Gaza

Why not the entire 2.1 million population na

43Ronin:
Bro I was like you b4, supporting Israel because of my hate for Islamic extremism. However, do a thorough research about how Israel became a nation, it was pure terrorism on ethnic indigenes of Palestine & even britain. Bro if you study the history, you will change your mind. Search through my moniker you will see i always supported Israel. This does not justify the murders on both sides but you can't totally blame hamas. Do your research you will be shocked to your marrow

Oga you still have alot of research to do o.
How Turkey became ISLAMIC Republic of Turkey.
How Iran became ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.
How Pakistan became ISLAMIC Republic.
How did Egypt become Islamic Republic.
How Saudi Arabia became an Islamic Republic.
Just to mention a few.
Despite islam being the later of all Major religions of the world.
The Era of religion is long gone.
Not everything in the quran will ever come to pass,not in this era of civilisation.
Nobody can Islamize this world.
Nobody is an infidel.
There should be freedom and choice of religion.
No to Islamic terrorism and intimidation.
Live and let's live or we finally destroy this world with our own hands.

The only Jewish state in this world must exist no matter what.

makaveli902:
This has nothing to do with the Nigerian economy.

The naira is gaining simply because the $ dollar is falling, other currencies are also gaining against the USD. American economy is in crisis so no big deal about the naira.

That's not completely true,the Dollar can be falling and the Naira falling faster against most currencies if our policy makers aren't doing nothing at all.
It's actually a big deal,maybe not big enough for you.

madridguy:
I still don't get, fire alarm no dey the building? No emergency exits for the building? Are the security officers at the building no get small training on how to tackle fire outbreak before the arrival of the fire service....

Our problem in Nigeria is that we don't investigate incident like this properly and hold the culprits responsible for their negligence.

R. I. P to them all.

I just tire ,I've been asking exactly the same questions.
Still no detailed comprehensive report on this unfortunate incident from the government.

Mirasteel:
Ask yourself that, that land have been Palestinian land before UN and the British created Israel, Palestinian Jews, Muslims and Christians have been living there peacefully before those Ashkenazi Jews from Europe came.

Same way the ISLAMIC Republics of Turkey,Syria and Iraq have chanced and succeeded in sharing the land of the KURDS right?
Go and advocate more for the kurds who are the true owners of their land if you truly stand for humanity.
Nobody can Islamize this world anymore, this is the 21st century.
Live and let's live.

Nobody is buying this crap any longer.

Mirasteel:
The middle east belongs to arabs not those European Ashkenazi zionist Jews, Palestinians will take their land back by God grace.

Oga what happened to the original kingdom of Israel?
Where exactly on the world map was it located?
Was Abraham ( Ibrahim ) in the quran not the first known and recorded jew in history?
Same as ishaq,Talud,Dawud, Issa,suleiman and so on.
Which Jewish kingdom did they all rule over and known as prophets?
Which Jewish temple did cyrus the great, king of iran rebuild in Jerusalem for the enslaved jews after freeing them from captivity?

What year did Palestine come into existence?
Who named it palestine?
How long has the Jewish Wall in Jerusalem been in existence what year was Al aqsa mosque built?
How can judea and Samaria suddenly become west Bank in the 20th century?
There are lots of questions just to mention a few that demands answers to justify that jews are Europeans and invaders,since you claim it is only Arabs that own the middle east.

Mirasteel:
Palestinians will take back what belongs to them, Jerusalem us their land and they were there before those European Ashkenazi Jews came after word war11.

And what is stopping them?
Nobody has monopoly of Violence.
The quest for the islamization of the middle east is gone with civilization.
Only stupid countries want wars which will always be devoid of development.

89green:
But this was same man who bombed the church in Gaza, how far. That period you went mute.

Same man wanted by the International Criminal Court

If you truly love Christians this much go and read on how ISLAMIC Republics of Turkey,Egypt and so on have been treating Christians and churches despite being the later of all known major religions of the world.

Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMBdzWq7N4?si=O9dSxBkaX7zmSJi3



https://bianet.org/haber/this-is-our-city-netanyahu-targets-erdogan-during-ancient-road-reopening-in-jerusalem-311584

The real thieves and land grabbers wants to change the narrative.
The only Jewish state in the entire world must exist nobody can Islamize the middle east or the world.
Nobody is an infidel.
Era of religion is gone, this is the 21st century.
Live and let's live!

CoronaVirusPro:
You mentioned Yiddish being a broken form of Hebrew, and yet the “Ha” sound cannot be pronounced! What transition is that? Should be a broken right? My point should make sense to you without saying nothing.

You said black Americans have European ancestry, does it make them European? No! Their parent ancestry is strong and still reflects in their physique, hair and color. They still full of melanin.

You see, if you want to end this argument quick, you have to be sincere with yourself and purge yourself of any ethnic sentiment.

You know a European, African, Asian, Native American, Middle Easterner and Australian at FIRST glance.

Why do you think those Europeans in Isreal are from the Middle East? You know buy cannot accept. They all changed their names.

Everyone changed their name. If you were white and became Jewish, your name will be redefined.

I told you the founder of modern day Hebrew is Russian, you didn’t contest that.

The eye is not blind, you just not accepting it. I don’t need a DNA test ot ancestry test yo tell you puff daddy ot Wesley snipes is from Africa. It’s the eyes! Use same eyes and you will know.

Israel is a western presence in the Middle East.

There was alot to learn from him but you just wish to argue for the sake of it.
Summary : "Events" as well as "time" changes a lot of things.
Let's assume you are right, where was the original Jewish kingdom of isreal located?
Was it in Europe?
Where exactly in Europe was it located?
And what happened to them and their descendants, are they now extinct or what?
Since these set of isrealis are Europeans.

ravensckar:
All his boldness won't carry him near PAKISTAN despite knowing it's a safe haven for JIHADISTS.

PAKISTAN has nuke and they won't hesistate to use it.

WOKE ARAB NATIONS are too foolish! And they will pay for their foolishness with their lives.

You guys just like giving yourselves false hopes.
India took war to Pakistani terrority after Pakistani Islamic terrorists attack on innocent civilians.
What did your nuclear Pakistan do?
Your Almighty putin war may take him all his lifetime to fight Ukraine without winning.
Why has he not used the nuclear weapons?
You all seem to be underestimating the devastating effects and after effects of nuclear weapons.
You dare not nuke isreal in America's existence,very terrible things you least expect will begin to happen.
With those crude nuclear warheads of Pakistan like isreal does not have more sophisticated nuclear weapons.

Smartguyboy:
A rich slave vs poor freeman.

Reason why Africa will never develop

Lol
So it is by following Kim Jong family dynasty tyranny in North Korea that Africa will develop?
No wonder North Korea is one of the most prosperous countries in world...
Like I said earlier,keep on deceiving yourselves because of hate.

Softmirror:
In the last Women under 17 and under 20 world cup. North Korea won the championship. They defeated the United States and Spain. That is to tell that North Korean women are not a push over.

Una too funny for this nairaland.

Smartguyboy:
Always slave mentality

Nobody is raping them women

Keep on deceiving yourselves in the 21st century because of hate.
Time will tell who truly has the "mentality of a slave".

Kaliningrad:
South Koreans are nothing more than a slave to America. They pay the US yearly to protect them from an imaginary enemy, still get raped and beaten in thier own country.

The worst part is their opinion does not count in the world today.

Look at North Korea. Strong, proud, feared and respected in the world stage. No one dares fvck with them.

"Like Russia share for putin"
Will you go to North Korea or pray any of your generation or loved ones find their way into this present North Korea?
Just honestly answer yourself
Hypocrisy at it's highest

CoronaVirusPro:
Make yourself happy!

The world knows Iran roasted Israel. Have you ever heard Israel adhere to a ceasefire? No

They got badly burnt and had to go face women and children in Palestine.

I guess isreal wasn't roasted well enough to be dealing ruthlessly with the Houthis.
You should be worried about your ALMIGHTY Iran's betrayal of not fighting isreal anymore on their behalf.
What a shame!

CoronaVirusPro:
The terrorist state of Israel at it again.

Won’t go close to Iran that can match it but will eager to fight women and children.

Iran missed a big opportunity and should have never agreed to a ceasefire.

The landmass would have been a car park now.

Thank God you now agree that Iran was very stupid to have agreed to a ceasefire.
They are also free to start attacking again as usual let's see if Khomeini will be spared this time.

Ballmer:
IsraHell already blow up the twin tower so orchestrate a new bombing inside the USA will be nothing new.
Same IsraHell blow up the US Liberty along with all it crews n USA could not do a thing.

Take this with any other witless evidence in your possession to the FBI to investigate.

Softmirror:
As you can see, you cannot prove your assertion that I am trying to justify killings in the name of religion.

There is no justification!

Do you support the killing of a human being in the name of islam?
Let's start with this question.

Evangelisttj:
Wow!
I’m sure very soon, maybe Russia, China, NorthKorea etc will swarm Israel.

But I guess all that’s happening was predicted in the Bible.

Those countries you mentioned up there are some the biggest threat to Islam.
The west especially America has been good to them.
They may fight against America for political interests not islam.
ISIS, Hamas and the like have destructive Islamic ideologies that doesn't align with the free world.

Softmirror:
Where have I made any justification? If there is kindly quote it here for the whole world to see. I have only presented a sad trend and pattern as to why people of religion kill innocent souls. That was my first comment which seems not to go down well with all of you.

There is no reason to make this about semantics at this point,you very much understand me.
What is bad is bad!