Simple solution, LASG should build organized shops and let the traders rent. Charge them extra for disposal of the rubbish (toxic rubbish) and for security. After all it is LASG land and market.

I have come to term with the fact that most people on this thread are either unenlightened or slightly educated (worst than being illiterate). I can't believe people are making the case for these dirty traders.
I wish Governor Fashola rule this disintegrated entity called Nigeria one day.

Dede1:

Did I not inform you the issue of Ladipo Market does not predicate on broom and sweeping, olodo?

That's why I still need you to tell us exactly what the state need to provide before the traders keep their market clean.


Why don't you do that and quit dodging.

ROSSIKE:
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This is what we need. Responsible local govt. Expecting TRADERS to do this job is absolute madness.

This is all the govt needs to do. Get local cleaning firms to clean up the place every evening, and levy the traders. The traders shouldn't even have to be involved in the process. Theirs is just to pay their levies. Finish. Instead the govt is making it out to be the traders' fault that the market is dirty. Absolutely ridiculous. The problem is poor local govt organisation and ineptitude.

ROSSIKE:

How will it not be pointless to a backward thinking person like you that expects traders to ''pick up their brooms and sweep the market''.

Bush man.

You are just too dumb and clueless for your own good.


The fact that you know how to copy ad paste internet pictures doesn't mean you have to derail every thread with it. What are you going to do with a street cleaner inside this mangled mountain of rubbish?






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babapupa:


You are just too dumb and clueless for your own good.


The fact that you know how to copy ad paste internet pictures doesn't mean you have to derail every thread with it. What are you going to do with a street cleaner inside this mangled mountain of rubbish?

It is precisely because of the ABSENCE of a daily cleaning regime, which ought to be organised by the govt, that the trash built up to that level. It didn't get that way in one day. Use your brain and stop thinking like a fcking ret.ard.

ROSSIKE:

This is all the govt needs to do. Get local cleaning firms to clean up the place every evening, and levy the traders. The traders shouldn't even have to be involved in the process. Theirs is just to pay their levies. Finish. Instead the govt is making it out to be the traders' fault that the market is dirty. Absolutely ridiculous. The problem is poor local govt organisation and ineptitude.

He said under no condition must they trade or solicit for customers on the main road, they "must remove all shops attachments built round the market/canals, remove all derelict and abandoned vehicles packed within the market as far as the expressway, remediate all forms of degradation on the roads and market area, sort out waste management issues with LAWMA as they cannot continue to dump into the canals, ensure total cleaning of the entire market and adjoining streets which they have degraded, among others.

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Is all you noise any different from what the state is asking them to do? You people just like to make noise just for the hell of it.

babapupa:



http://allafrica.com/stories/201302260102.html



Is all you noise any different from what the state is asking them to do? You people just like to make noise just for the hell of it.

The traders are NOT supposed to ''sort out waste management issues with LAWMA''

LAWMA is supposed to ''sort out waste management issues with the traders''.

Big difference.

It is also NOT the traders' duty to ''remove derelict and abandoned vehicles from the road'' etc etc. THAT'S the job of the local govt.

ROSSIKE:

It is precisely because of the ABSENCE of a daily cleaning regime, which ought to be organised by the govt, that the trash built up to that level. It didn't get that way in one day. Use your brain and stop thinking like a fcking ret.ard.

Only jungle animals trash and degrade where they earn their living for any silly excuse or reasons.


The state issued many warnings before the shut which the traders did not deny.

So since the state have issued so many warnings, did the market traders expressed to the state to do this and that before they keep their market clean?

Do you need other people to tell you before you practice cleanliness? Do you need the state to provide you with anything before you clean your house?


Dirty people making dumb excuses for other dirty people..

babapupa:


Only jungle animals trash and degrade where they earn their living for any silly excuse or reasons.


The state issued many warnings before the shut which the traders did not deny.

So since the state have issued so many warnings, did the market traders expressed to the state to do this and that before they keep their market clean?

Do you need other people to tell you before you practice cleanliness? Do you need the state to provide you with anything before you clean your house?


Dirty people making dumb excuses for other dirty people..

I'll just put this down to your low IQ.

ROSSIKE:

The traders are NOT supposed to ''sort out waste management issues with LAWMA''

LAWMA is supposed to ''sort out waste management issues with the traders''.

Big difference.

It is also NOT the traders' duty to ''remove derelict and abandoned vehicles from the road'' etc etc. THAT'S the job of the local govt.

Keep running you mouth...


This is the reality..

In his response, President, Ladipo Auto Centre Executive Committee (LACEC), Iyke Animalu, assured the governor of the union’s and traders’ readiness to comply with the relevant directives towards immediate evacuation and disposal of refuse and removal of whatever might impede free flow of traffic on the roads, so as to have the market reopened.

“The union will do whatever it takes to ensure that it does not disappoint the governor and make sure the market is made a business-friendly environment for traders and customers”, he assured.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115119:-fashola-gives-conditions-for-re-opening-ladipo-market&catid=3:metro&Itemid=558

They know their faults and responsibilities and I hope for their own good they follow through..

ROSSIKE:

I'll just put this down to your low IQ.

Key word...


Dirty people making dumb excuses for other dirty people..

babapupa:


Key word...


Dirty people making dumb excuses for other dirty people..

You must be one of the local govt thieves who sit on their fat asses collecting taxes and expecting the traders to do the jobs THEY were elected to do. Go around the world and show us where ordinary citizens are responsible for ''removing abandoned vehicles and sweeping their streets'', as opposed to that being a BASIC local govt function. When exposed people try to educate you on how things are done, you prefer to remain in the bush. Tragic.

To all dirty and lawless people...

It will no longer be business as usual. The old ways cannot continue. Those responsible have seen where their error lies, and I hope they are ready to adjust so that business can continue.”

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I believe the traders as well as the local government is at fault for the filth that is found in Ladipo Market. The traders should take better responsibility for the cleanliness of their business, even though I understand that the spare parts business is a dirty business. And the local government is at fault for not providing cleaning services for the market. It is not the responsibility of individual traders to clean up the whole premises, that is the responsibility of the local government to take care of the basic problems like garbage disposal. All the traders should worry about the cleanliness of their stalls. And what about the owner of the land? Shouldn't the landlord be blamed for allowing his property to become an eyesore?

Eko O Ni Baje

ROSSIKE:

You must be one of the local govt thieves who sit on their fat asses collecting taxes and expecting the traders to do the jobs THEY were elected to do. Go around the world and show us where ordinary citizens are responsible for ''removing abandoned vehicles and sweeping their streets'', as opposed to that being a BASIC local govt function. When exposed people try to educate you on how things are done, you prefer to remain in the bush. Tragic.

This is the reality..

In his response, President, Ladipo Auto Centre Executive Committee (LACEC), Iyke Animalu, assured the governor of the union’s and traders’ readiness to comply with the relevant directives towards immediate evacuation and disposal of refuse and removal of whatever might impede free flow of traffic on the roads, so as to have the market reopened.

“The union will do whatever it takes to ensure that it does not disappoint the governor and make sure the market is made a business-friendly environment for traders and customers”, he assured.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115119:-fashola-gives-conditions-for-re-opening-ladipo-market&catid=3:metro&Itemid=558

You house must be very very dirty because you sound like a disgustingly dirty person....

Dede1:

Illegitimate olodo

Even your psychiatric mate, ROSSIKE, has shown an educated plank on this discussion. Please borrow a clue from him.

You hide your low IQ behind some pseudo big English that you picks around NL...

I don't expect anything better though from someone that spells cater as carter before rushing back to change it after glancing the correct spelling from a post of mine above his...I noticed it I just didn't want to ridicule you....but you can deny it as much as you want...you are just behaving to your person.

TheBookWorm: I believe the traders as well as the local government is at fault for the filth that is found in Ladipo Market. The traders should take better responsibility for the cleanliness of their business, even though I understand that the spare parts business is a dirty business. And the local government is at fault for not providing cleaning services for the market. It is not the responsibility of individual traders to clean up the whole premises, that is the responsibility of the local government to take care of the basic problems like garbage disposal. All the traders should worry about the cleanliness of their stalls. And what about the owner of the land? Shouldn't the landlord be blamed for allowing his property to become an eyesore?

I don't think the problem is the cleanliness of stalls. I've been in the stalls and they are reasonably clean inside. The only problem I see here is a govt failure to clean this environment from the outset. Ordinary citizens are not trained in cleaning urban environments. That is a specialist function for which private cleaning firms or local govt workers ought to be the only people to handle it. All the traders' job is to pay the required levies. Finish! This is the way it's done in all civilized countries.

Even this weekly ''environmental clean up'' stuff is just pure oppression. Citizens have no business cleaning street gutters or sweeping roads. That is purely a function of local govt, for which taxes are paid. The govt should get rid of open gutters completely and build underground drainage, build sidewalks that adjoin the fences on streets so there is no room for sand and no need for weekly ''environmental gutter cleaning'', sand sweeping, and other such backward nonsense. (see below)

When you build a street like THIS, then there's no need for weekly 'environmental'.

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In his response, President, Ladipo Auto Centre Executive Committee (LACEC), Iyke Animalu, assured the governor of the union’s and traders’ readiness to comply with the relevant directives towards immediate evacuation and disposal of refuse and removal of whatever might impede free flow of traffic on the roads, so as to have the market reopened.

“The union will do whatever it takes to ensure that it does not disappoint the governor and make sure the market is made a business-friendly environment for traders and customers”, he assured.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115119:-fashola-gives-conditions-for-re-opening-ladipo-market&catid=3:metro&Itemid=558

After reading the response of the traders isn't it obvious that they've accepted their mistakes and are ready to make amends.

Why are some fickle-minded simpletons still arguing over the matter??

Why cry louder than the bereaved??

Abeg forget this matter joor!!

Go and support your brother to ensure that the clean up the mess ASAP for their business to

.Garri (x7):


After reading the response of the traders isn't it obvious that they've accepted their mistakes and are ready to make amends.

No. They've accepted that they are oppressed by a state govt that abdicated its responsibility, and they have no choice but to comply with their oppression, by offering to do the work that the govt is paid to do.

Bliss4Lyfe: Y do the traders pay tax? Local gov should stop sharing money and start working.

Traders will not wait forever for the local gov to clean the market.

Life most continue and families must to chop.

they pay tax to use the roads to and from their house to the market,they pay tax for the police protecting them from armed robbers carting away their proceeds….no one should have to force able bodied adults to clean their environments especially a business place when they are not animals..if they want to chop then they should do the right thing and stop whining and bitching like a 5yrs old kid
the same set of people will complain of fashola yoruba govt neglecting them if rainy season comes and washes away their shop

We are told that people throw discarded engines into the canal or abandon them on the road. Some jokers say it is the government's job to clean up after all "they pay tax".
No, none of them pays as much tax as Shell or Mobil who are responsible for cleaning up oil spillages.
There is normal every day waste which local councils clear up and there is heavy duty industrial waste which traders generate anonymously at Ladipo.
Take medical waste from a hospital for e.g infectious specimens,human tissue,blood,cadavers etc who is responsible for that? Government?
Breweries generate waste as do other industrial activity. In the case of Ladipo we are talking about corrosive and other harmful oils and gases as well as scrap metal.This is specialist waste and is the responsibility of those generating it.
In fact potentially any long term adverse health effects are their responsibility in law if residents are affected. Fashola is only being sentimental in not closing down the market.The market should be allowed to sell MANUFACTURED parts only and not Tokunbo parts.If Tokunbo is allowed the activity involved in cutting and other modifications to engine etc which strictly speaking are NOT trading but engineering etc should NOT happen in a MARKET.Containers should be offloaded ONLY in the market and in compliance with existing safety laws and there should be enforcement of guarantees as required by law. As it is Ladipo is MORE than a market,it is a workshop,scrapyard and engineering base all rolled into one. The market should be restricted to selling of parts only and NOT the breaking of vehicles or other MODIFICATIONS to vehicles/parts.
If the only activity there was trading and NOT "engineering" we would not be in this mess.

The truth is this and let us be clear about this
A market should be for selling and buying period. Not INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY like welding,burning etc the reassembly of motor vehicles,joining of half engines or any other activity that may be called PRODUCTION of the finished good etc.
If ALL industrial and engineering activity is stopped and relocated from there we will observe a huge difference. The only thing that should happen there is buying and selling

ROSSIKE:

No. They've accepted that they are oppressed by a state govt that abdicated its responsibility, and they have no choice but to comply with their oppression, by offering to do the work that the govt is paid to do.

You can repeat this rubbish a million times, you are still on the wrong side of cleanliness and personal hygiene.

ROSSIKE:

This is all the govt needs to do. Get local cleaning firms to clean up the place every evening, and levy the traders. The traders shouldn't even have to be involved in the process. Theirs is just to pay their levies. Finish. Instead the govt is making it out to be the traders' fault that the market is dirty. Absolutely ridiculous. The problem is poor local govt organisation and ineptitude.

so whose fault is it that the market is dirty?? did fashola send people there to pile all the dirt there??i dont get how you people reason sometimes…
you are always quick to shout taxes taxes..how many businesses in the whole of lagos pay the correct taxes??
if an auditor was sent into ladipo market to check their books against the taxes paid how many of them will come up vindicated and stand confident??
yet you want government to conjure up additional billions from where exactly i dont know to do ladipo market traders jobs for them

do you know how much is paid in taxes in the uk??
the budget of only the nhs is more than nigeria's total budget with oil money combined(80b pounds plus just nhs)
this is a link to the 2012-2013 budget of only london city council with considerably less population than lagos state pls compare it to the total budget of lagos state plus the whole of the southwest converted to naira before you just talk…...http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/about-the-city/who-we-are/budgets-and-spending/Documents/au-fn-strategic-budget-book-final-2012.pdf
can all the shop owners pay the same tax business owners pay in the uk which is the highest in the world? and even if they do how many of ladipo business owners pay the correct tax and not lie that they made a loss year in year out?
the state governors collecting 13% derivation have not done half of what fashola is doing considering he has to cotend with over populated lagos..
the head of the ladipo shop owners/businesses should have commissioned this himself a long time ago…contract it out to a private firm and get the shop owners to contribute weekly for the cleaning same as they do for security levy not waiting for govt

i know a guy whose whole container of spare parts was seized and he was fined thousands of euros to clean the engine oil in germany just because the truck transporting his container to the port was dripping black oil over the roads these traders have been indiscriminately dumping refuse including environmentally harmful refuse without a care for several years…Nigeria can never improve with this stupid regressive mindset of terming everything with ethnic/tribal sentiments

The market need not be closed for the govt to make their point or reorganise how things are done their. The truth we are just too wasteful in this country and pple who benefit from d confusion and sabotaging of the system and institutions get chieftancy titles

Bear in mind that this market was closed some years back, so what was d effect...

Niaja economy run on informal sector like this market as such the economy is worst for it.

Akiika: I have come to term with the fact that most people on this thread are either unenlightened or slightly educated (worst than being illiterate). I can't believe people are making the case for these dirty traders.
I wish Governor Fashola rule this disintegrated entity called Nigeria one day.

GOD bless you for this comment i didn't even see this before i made my comments..they are quick to point out examples of western countries as if we pay the same tax..we black people and our dirty habits always follow us all around the world go to any area where black people and nigerians live and its in same condition as ladipo instead of them to imbibe western cultures they blame westerners for moving away from the neighbourhood because of racism

dayokanu: If you cant conduct yourself in a normal way befitting of human then relocate back to your villages in Ekiti, Gombe or Abia

Na the same people go come dey lament say Lagos dirty. Dem spoil dem village wan come spoil Lagos for the indegenes

Ati oko wa ba Ile je gbogbo

Faints

Plz let d market be reopen peeps are dieing of hunger i believe dey ave learnt dia leason

babyosisi: Is there provision for refuse disposal in Nigeria?
No be for bush or street people dey throway dorty?
The country is one big poo

Maybe in your part of Nigeria. We do not do dat in Lagos