and debo people have mom and pop tailors here too

D-reloaded:

and debo people have mom and pop tailors here too

I know they do, but the fact that it exists elsewhere doesn't mean that it is not a GOOD THING about Nigeria.

I really don't get the line of thought in this thread, Is it a case of 'what is BETTER in Nigeria than elsewhere' or simply what can be regarded as good in Nigeria

@ pataki

your personal insults/attacks are unwarranted man, lets keep this thread on focus.

Siena:

Pathakee and Funkybaby: All I can say is, wow!

So, Armed Lion and Figurehead are one and the same, hmm. Stands to reason.

@ Figurehead: One thing you can't change is your personality, regardless of how hard you try. You develop it as you grow into adulthood, and the only way that would change, would be if you suffered a major trauma (to the brain, if there's one). There's absolutely no need for multiplicity, how do you actually remember who you are, on any given day??

Anyway, back on topic.

Nigeria, like any other nation, has her good AND bad sides. Regardless of how black folk may paint her, the UK and US, despite being "developed" countries, are no better. Yes, life MAY be easier, but the average American, or Brit IS lazy, in Nigeria, you can't afford to be idle, else you won't survive.

When it comes to media coverage on Nigeria, or any other developing African nation, surprise, surprise, it usually reported by US / UK media agencies, and of course, folk believe all the media reports, because it's easier to do so.

When last did the Western media cover any positive attributes about Nigeria? I honestly can't remember. But, the negatives are covered constantly.

Disgrace from Nigeria? So, is everything about the West great? It's not unusual for the Western media to do a "fig-leaf" job on their negatives. Just because not a lot of negatives are reported, does NOT mean they don't exist.

Dirt on your clean white shoes? That was hilarious! There are slums here in the UK, that would rival any I've seen in Nigeria! There are ghetto's in the US too that you'd be forgiven for thinking you'd been teleported to some Ajegunle, if you were taken there!

I'm probably just as guilty as some folk who only see the negatives in Nigeria, and I'll admit it. But, I wouldn't blatantly come out on a public forum, and slate the country my parents were born and raised in, jeeze! No wonder the average white man / woman will rain abuse, you can't blame them, when her own citizens publicly say, "there's NOTHING good about Nigeria."

You have got a better sense of judgment. I love how you have stated your own views. Objective and articulate.

I think I am as well guilty in time past.

debosky:

@ pataki

your personal insults/attacks are unwarranted man, lets keep this thread on focus.

Did I importune for his personal attack on me at first? Did he keep the thread on focus when he hurled his supposed insults at me? If he continues, I will not desist.

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I do not consider my country a disgrace. I have the best of friends from and in Nigeria, and more importantly I love the way the way Church services are done in Nigeria. I miss that in loads a lot.

debosky:

@ pataki

your personal insults/attacks are unwarranted man, lets keep this thread on focus.

I'm perplexed myself . . .

@ topic - I think this thread is a more a personal attack on vicjustice than it is a defence of Nigeria.
I dont agree that there are no positives to take out of Nigeria, but we would be decieving ourselves if we try to claim that the negatives dont far outway any positives.
Funny that most of those who sound so "proud" of their country do so from the relative comfort of foreign nations. uh oh

Is Nigeria a disgrace? YES it is . . . we are the 6th largest producer of oil in the world and yet at the bottom of the development ladder. We have no business having an economy worse than that of Botswana, we have no business with almost 50% illiteracy rate, we have no business having 70% of our population below the poverty line, we have no business generating less power than Ghana.

No other OPEC member is so poor . . . we call ourselves the giant of Africa but all we have to show for it is a largely unfed and disenfranchised population and we come here pretending to "love" Nigeria.

D-reloaded:

Anyway 4Play, instead of going after people's comments, how about YOU give your own list abi you agree with the oyibos in regards to your motherland?

There is nothing uniquely positive about Nigeria.See people talking about divorce rates,as if low divorce rates are necessarily a positive.There are so many women trapped in crap marriages.Actually,our low divorce rate is a symptom of dysfunction-unequal gender rights.

@Debosky

However you look at it,that barbers charge 50cents a haircut is a symptom of our economic problems.On the one hand,Nigerians can't afford to pay more,on the other,the barbers can't afford to charge more.

Most barbers in Nigeria can't afford things people in the developed world take for granted.There is a huge difference in living standards between Nigerian based barber and a foreign based barber.

As for food being mainly organic,not only are food safety standards in Nigeria far more lax,there is little evidence that organic food is safer in any case.

About the tailor issue,you are scraping the barrel here.

4Him:

I'm perplexed myself . . .

@ topic - I think this thread is a more a personal attack on vicjustice than it is a defence of Nigeria.
I don't agree that there are no positives to take out of Nigeria, but we would be decieving ourselves if we try to claim that the negatives don't far outway any positives.
Funny that most of those who sound so "proud" of their country do so from the relative comfort of foreign nations. uh oh

Is Nigeria a disgrace? YES it is . . . we are the 6th largest producer of oil in the world and yet at the bottom of the development ladder. We have no business having an economy worse than that of Botswana, we have no business with almost 50% illiteracy rate, we have no business having 70% of our population below the poverty line, we have no business generating less power than Ghana.

No other OPEC member is so poor . . . we call ourselves the giant of Africa but all we have to show for it is a largely unfed and disenfranchised population and we come here pretending to "love" Nigeria.

@ 4Him, with  guys like You, Sly, EloSela, "figurehead" 4 Play, debosky and the host of other wise and realistic individuals, i am covered and don't have to care about the personal insults on me by "visa experts". Thank you bros/sis, talk to you later.

@Ape Man



Sorry o,HM no dey give chimps permanent visas. If you were bright enough,unlike some of your guys here in North America,you won't end up an "exchange student" in Holland. Abi your apeness reach your brain? Even people with "goat hearts" go UCL,you dey do exchange for Holland.

Its a measure of how bad things are in Nigeria,that people are dragging up divorce rates and haircuts. . . , while some folks have been brushing up their visa expertise in a desperate bid to come to the UK.

4 Play:

@Ape Man



Sorry o,HM no dey give chimps permanent visas. If you were bright enough,unlike some of your guys here in North America,you won't end up an "exchange student" in Holland. Abi your apeness reach your brain? Even people with "goat hearts" go UCL,you dey do exchange for Holland.

Its a measure of how bad things are in Nigeria,that people are dragging up divorce rates and haircuts. . . , while some folks have been brushing up their visa expertise in a desperate bid to come to the UK.

Where are you buddies to tell you to desist from personal attacks at me? Compliation of stupidities.

What is HM? Do you mean Home Office?

Goat heart go UCL? Mr fake Corporate Lawyer, who are you deceiving? You want to call yourself a graduate when all you do is sit at home because of your medical status and you live on your parents gratuity?

Pataki na ape-man, that is a stale gist. Show us your Hammer Head of Horror. At least I have my profile picture uploaded, show everyone those big teeth and big head of yours, outstanding dwarf.

Pataki is an exchange student indeed! Yet he has a degree to collect from an accredited UK institution in at their Medway campus.

Pataki is desperate to come to the UK, yet he understands three different international languages, not relevant for a stay in the UK.

Pataki has an ape brain and yet he understands UK immigration without having to live in the UK, so much that he is labeled a visa expert here. Ask yourself, of what relevance are you to the society?

Male shagging masturbating expert.

You have gotten enough attention from me.

Hedonistic brought up boy. Got better things to do.

@Ape Man

'Ol boy na University of Greenwich you dey exchange with and you and I dey compare? Are you not ashamed of yourself ? I blame Labor and the Tories. . . .if they didn't convert all those useless Polytechnics into Universities.

Goat hearts go UCL,"human heart" dey do exchange programme with Uni of Greenwich.

Keep petitioning BHC,you might come out with a degree in visa. You see your guys thriving in North America and you dey useless yourself for Netherland. No worry,ask them for a brain transplant.You might get to work under them some day.

pahtahkee:

Where are you buddies to tell you to desist from personal attacks at me? Compliation of stupidities.

What is HM? Do you mean Home Office?

Goat heart go UCL? Mr fake Corporate Lawyer, who are you deceiving? You want to call yourself a graduate when all you do is sit at home because of your medical status and you live on your parents gratuity?

O boy u no get shame. We no longer can tell if this is you or islander anymore. Same MOD, same distasteful use of personal information said in confidence to score cheap brownie points. The only thing left is that you have not highlighted ur own so we can see better.

pahtahkee:

Pataki na ape-man, that is a stale gist. Show us your Hammer Head of Horror. At least I have my profile picture uploaded, show everyone those big teeth and big head of yours, outstanding dwarf.

It were better u just had blank space there. Dont show us the back of ur head and come gloating about "at least i have my profile picture uploaded".

O boy get something else doing. This personal insult crusade is getting u no where.

Pataki and 4play, please cut out the personal insults. . You guys are too much for that.

@ 4Play,
If my degree hurts you this bad, am I responsible for such?

Pataki is an exchange student, Pataki is an ape, Pataki did not go to school, why must you see the image of yourself in others?

Get a life and stop sitting behind that computer thinking you have one!.

Enough said.

Imani:

Pataki and 4play, please cut out the personal insults. . You guys are too much for that.

I hold no apologies for his unwarranted throw of invectives at me, even when I never sought for the goats attention.

Imani:

Pataki and 4play, please cut out the personal insults. . You guys are too much for that.

Ssshhh. . . .Did I post anything? Its my twin brother who has been logging on with my user name and making fun of exchange students at the 'prestigious' Uni of Greenwich.

(My apologies to any Greenwich alumni,didn't mean to be a snob)

4Him:

O boy u no get shame. We no longer can tell if this is you or islander anymore. Same MOD, same distasteful use of personal information said in confidence to score cheap brownie points. The only thing left is that you have not highlighted your own so we can see better.

It were better u just had blank space there. Dont show us the back of your head and come gloating about "at least i have my profile picture uploaded".

O boy get something else doing. This personal insult crusade is getting u no where.

***_yawns****

Attention seeker, I have noticed you.

Now go and face your face!

pahtahkee:

***_yawns****

Attention seeker, I have noticed you.

Now go and face your face!

lol aint it funny?
I knew you for 5 yrs and u didnt figure on my list of people i cared a hoot about . . . is it now that i'd be seeking ur attention?
O boy go enjoy ur one man crusade of disgrace.

4Him:

lol aint it funny?
I knew you for 5 years and u didnt figure on my list of people i cared a hoot about . . . is it now that i'd be seeking your attention?
O boy go enjoy your one man crusade of disgrace.

***_{yawning again}***

As if I knew you would return with this balderdash. Do you want me to scan and upload my 21st birthday picture when you came for it, even when you never knew I existed with your green Phat farm shirt here?

I am enjoying my one man crusade, and I never begged for you to address me. So stick your shit off my face!

pahtahkee:

***_{yawning again}***

As if I knew you would return with this balderdash. Do you want me to scan and upload my 21st birthday picture when you came for it, even when you never knew I existed with your green Phat farm shirt here?

I am enjoying my one man crusade, and I never begged for you to address me. So stick your shit off my face!

I attended birthday parties of plenty of other people i don't speak to today. . . 
Party = food not the individual involved. 
BTW i think the phat farm shirt was yellow and if u're yawning so badly go and sleep. It might be the antidote you need.

@ 4Him,

Is it compulsory u exude STUPIDITY and IDLENESS on Nairaland?
Ain't u ashamed of yourself? All u do everyday is to hide behind a mask and cause ruckus in various sections of the land.
If u are this idle. . . . . .Go and find a job in a Chapel and let people be.
Sometimes u appear intelligent but most times u are just a boil on the ass of humanity.
You are pathetic!!!

Hehehehehehe. . .Its a shame I have been forced to act my age.

This frolicking in the mud would have restored my acidic palate. . . .

Oh well. . . .off to do what adults do

@ Chacal . . .
Myself i know, pataki i know, who are you?
Even if pataki and i fight till next yr, we are still bound to meet up in our small town as buddies again . . . you i continue to relegate to the dustbin of memory.  

I agree with Doyin13, i leave this thread until adults return to discuss issues.

4Him:

I attended birthday parties of plenty of other people i don't speak to today. . .
Party = food not the individual involved.
BTW i think the phat farm shirt was yellow and if u're yawning so badly go and sleep. It might be the antidote you need.

Did you carry the shirt with you to America? Attending parties because of food? Oh boy you hunger gan oh. Pathetic!!!!

I was yawning because you are boring me out. But now am alright.

4Him:

@ Chacal . . .
Myself i know, pataki i know, who are you?
Even if pataki and i fight till next yr, we are still bound to meet up in our small town as buddies again . . . you i continue to relegate to the dustbin of memory.

I agree with Doyin13, i leave this thread until adults return to discuss issues.

Where goest thou? Pastor please preach to me.

@ 4Him,

U are a bloody pillock!!!!!!!!!!

Who gives a Bleep about you? U have been seeking ma attention all week
You went to Arsenal thread to start saying you hid ur face in disgrace. . . what was that about?
U being dead or alive means nuthing to me, mate. . . .
I just think your excesses should be curbed as u are running around like a rabid dog.
Look at this balding gibbon talking about knowing me. . . . .I dont associate with tramps, gay!!!!

What a revelation galore on this thread. So 4Him and Pataki go way back. Interesting, i have to say .

Pataki dear, can you upload that 21st party pic. . Hmmm maybe not a good idea, though the thought of it is funny

Chacal:

@ 4Him,

You are a bloody pillock!!!!!!!!!!

Who gives a Bleep about you? You have been seeking ma attention all week
You went to Arsenal thread to start saying you hid your face in disgrace. . . what was that about?
You being dead or alive means nuthing to me, mate. . . .
I just think your excesses should be curbed as u are running around like a rabid dog.
Look at this balding gibbon talking about knowing me. . . . .I don't associate with tramps, gay!!!!

Take am easy, i wont be held responsible for burst carotids.  

Chacal:

@ 4Him,

You are a bloody pillock!!!!!!!!!!

Who gives a Bleep about you? You have been seeking ma attention all week
You went to Arsenal thread to start saying you hid your face in disgrace. . . what was that about?
You being dead or alive means nuthing to me, mate. . . .
I just think your excesses should be curbed as u are running around like a rabid dog.
Look at this balding gibbon talking about knowing me. . . . .I don't associate with tramps, gay!!!!

I go die oh.

pahtahkee:



I go die oh.

nah its i ginnee die o! You forgot?

Imani:

What a revelation galore on this thread. So 4Him and Pataki go way back. Interesting, i have to say .

Pataki dear, can you upload that 21st party pic. . Hmmm maybe not a good idea, though the thought of it is funny

It is just a button click away at your beckoning ma.

Just say the word and you will get it done, and I will show my ape face as well.

yeah pataki show the picture, i don't think i ever saw it.
Tell him, Imani . . . he's more likely to listen to you.

4Him:

nah its i ginnee die o! You forgot?

So you go about keeping tabs on my posts?

Get something doing abeg.

pahtahkee:

So you go about keeping tabs on my posts?

Get something doing abeg.

not really, most of your posts are the same ol personal insults . . . even a 5yr old can tell what u'd say next.