The Beam:

Simple: because the sheer vileness and unpleasant language u word your *thoughts* (I seriously doubt u're capable of that) with make any comprehension impossible. Some of us didn't grow up in gutters so we can't really decode ur pathetic language.

My luv!:


^^^ Talk of giving the dog a bad name just to kill it. It's people like you that earn a living out of cheap blackmail. Smh

Gbawe.:


You make some very good points but many parts of your arguments are speculative at best. No one is telling you "certs and books" make Demuren the best option. The fact is that his academic and professional talent, to cover the holy grail of solution provision that solidifies reputations, is not in doubt and should not be disparaged by any sensible person. I don't know why we he was sacked but we cannot just assume it is because he goofed. We are seeing evidence, daily , that this is a President who will move against anyone perceived a threat to his direct or affiliated political interest.

You ask yourself what Allison-Madueke has made of our Petroleum sector if not mired it in sleaze and corruption to the extent David Cameron had to publicly ask the GEJ government to account for the trillions received through the sector in recent years with Nigeria having nothing to show for that vast amount. After the latest episode of Allison-Madueke making a fool of Nigeria with her open compromise of the Ribadu Petroleum task force, tell me who is more deserving of a sacking in Nigeria than that Lady. Also, we all remember Azazi being sacked after he claimed the PDP was behind Boko Haram. Those are the sort of observations that tell many this is not a President who hires, fires or retain appointees purely on merit and principles. If some now question his motives for sacking Demuren, then they have solid reasons to do so because analytically intelligent people can only make inference from the consistent behaviour of others. If a well-known unrepentant kleptomaniac, would it be wrong for me to assume you may have stolen the watch you are wearing on your ankle instead of your wrist?

Gbawe.:


You make some very good points but many parts of your arguments are speculative at best. No one is telling you "certs and books" make Demuren the best option. The fact is that his academic and professional talent, to cover the holy grail of solution provision that solidifies reputations, is not in doubt and should not be disparaged by any sensible person. I don't know why he was sacked but we cannot just assume it is because he goofed. We are seeing evidence, daily , that this is a President who will move against anyone perceived a threat to his direct or affiliated political interest.

You ask yourself what Allison-Madueke has made of our Petroleum sector if not mired it in sleaze and corruption to the extent David Cameron had to publicly ask the GEJ government to account for the trillions received through the sector in recent years with Nigeria having nothing to show for that vast amount. After the latest episode of Allison-Madueke making a fool of Nigeria with her open compromise of the Ribadu Petroleum task force, tell me who is more deserving of a sacking in Nigeria than that Lady. Also, we all remember Azazi being sacked after he claimed the PDP was behind Boko Haram. Those are the sort of observations that tell many this is not a President who hires, fires or retain appointees purely on merit and principles. If some now question his motives for sacking Demuren, then they have solid reasons to do so because analytically intelligent people can only make inference from the consistent behaviour of others. If a well-known unrepentant kleptomaniac, would it be wrong for me to assume you may have stolen the watch you are wearing on your ankle instead of your wrist?

AjanleKoko:

Dude, NCAA do not run the airports. FAAN does.


If most Nairalanders are like you . . . then, same of the same. Bunch of clowns and mo.rons. Internet-empowered dummies.

chingyjant: People have been ranting since this topic came up on front page without even having a good knowledge of the system.Mr Harold Demuren deserve to be sacked long ago.Academic qualification don't always transcend to good management.Its only in Nigeria people go for courses abroad and end up not using it instead all they think about is their promotion.I challenge anybody to name any of his achievements ever since.There is no safety in the Nigerian aviation system.The last plane crash that occurred could have been averted if the agency was efficent.A plane that was faulty from Port Harcourt to Abuja was allowed to fly immediately to Lagos without proper clearance from NCAA and this led to loss of lives.With that incidence he ought to have been relieved of his duty.Nigerians just look for way to blame the President for everything.Just like El Rufai said even if Jesus should be handed Nigerian Presidency he will still face insult and condemnation

The Beam:

That wasn't my intention sir. Sorry if it looks like that.

I don't know the man, but based on the utter waste of human lives occasioned by the irresponsibility of his administration in the Dana crash, any decision made as a fall-out can be justified, never mind that ppl claim he's been outstanding up till then. That's my stand.
He may be a good man, but at that level, you need to maintain a sterling degree of professionalism at all times.

Did he? No.

Did he know the risk? Yes.

Did he have both legal and financial backing to have taken necessary steps to avoid that disaster ?Capital YES!

What happened? He was criminally negligent!

And professionally, he's lucky to be escaping with his freedom. If Nigeria were a country where the populace knew their rights and we had Lawyers who knew anything about Torts, FAAN, FG, NCCA and DANA would be deeply enmeshed in trouble now.

CFCfan:

He was instrumental in ensuring that Nigeria attained the US CAT 1 status. This enabled our domestic airlines to fly directly to the US on Nigerian-registered aircraft.

texazzpete:

So what you're saying is, you've gone to the future, seen the report of the Dana air crash investigation and it fingers the NCAA head abi?

Nah, I thought not. You're just blowing hot air out of your arse.

CHESSBOARD:

expatiate....Hey dont soil ur good record here. This is restructuring not politics

naptu2: To be fair, I can't blame GEJ for this. He did not want to sack Dr Demuren, despite intense pressure from the National Assembly, but when you are faced with a choice of retaining him and watching the National Assembly cause unnecessary delays and blockage of government’s aviation policies and removing him from office, but allowing him to continue to assist in the background, I believe it’s better to remove him.

Remember, although Azazi was removed from the position of National Security Adviser (due to pressure from PDP), he continued to advise GEJ unofficially.

The Beam:

That wasn't my intention sir. Sorry if it looks like that.

I don't know the man, but based on the utter waste of human lives occasioned by the irresponsibility of his administration in the Dana crash, any decision made as a fall-out can be justified, never mind that ppl claim he's been outstanding up till then. That's my stand.
He may be a good man, but at that level, you need to maintain a sterling degree of professionalism at all times.

Did he? No.

Did he know the risk? Yes.

Did he have both legal and financial backing to have taken necessary steps to avoid that disaster ?Capital YES!

What happened? He was criminally negligent!

And professionally, he's lucky to be escaping with his freedom. If Nigeria were a country where the populace knew their rights and we had Lawyers who knew anything about Torts, FAAN, FG, NCCA and DANA would be deeply enmeshed in trouble now.

The Beam:

Don't need to go into the future pal. This is simple deductive reasoning.

Was he head of NCCA? Yes

Is NCCA responsible for regulating airline operations? Yes

Was there a breach of regulations that led to the DANA crash? Yes, SEVERAL!

Was any appropriate step taken to correct said breach and avert disaster? NO, unfortunately.

Is he culpable for the brazen breach in regulations that occurred under his watch? VERY!

There you have it, that's common sense and objectivity for you. Anything less than that is partisan.


Sacking him is actually a good way of reducing the culpability and liability of the govt. in a lawsuit.

The Beam:

Don't need to go into the future pal. This is simple deductive reasoning.

Was he head of NCCA? Yes

Is NCCA responsible for regulating airline operations? Yes

Was there a breach of regulations that led to the DANA crash? Yes, SEVERAL!

Was any appropriate step taken to correct said breach and avert disaster? NO, unfortunately.

Is he culpable for the brazen breach in regulations that occurred under his watch? VERY!

There you have it, that's common sense and objectivity for you. Anything less than that is partisan.


Sacking him is actually a good way of reducing the culpability and liability of the govt. in a lawsuit.

My luv!:


Yes, for the records, he has been outstanding before and after the Dana incident. He has maintained quite an excellent record in terms of safety oversight functions in the Nigeria aviation sector. An accident can happen even when all necessary precautions are being taken... I'm sure you know what a human error is. You talk like you know exactly what caused the Dana incident, or are you being (mis)informed by someone? Do not slander
, God does not take it lightly.
Have you known he in 1995, was "forced" into
retirement as Director Safety Services because of his strict adherent to
Safety after a Government "restructuring"
exercise. And ten years later, he was appointed the DG? Pls be sure of who to blame, it takes an ignorant to cast blames to the wrong person.
Have a nice day

My luv!:


He's no DG of any NCCA, he is the DG of NCAA. Repeating this mistake severally in your posts gives you away as being too ignorant to judge a case like this.
Secondly, your deductions are not complete, and therefore can pass as null and void!
Your statement: "Was there a breach of regulations that led to the DANA crash? Yes, SEVERAL!" Did I hear you say NCAA? Then you must have time traveled into the future to confirm that.

The Beam:


NCCA/NCAA? Oh well, my mistake.

And like I said earlier, u're entirely missing the point, This is NOT about me or my knowledge of NCAA, or indeed my relationship with Mr. Demuren. This is a simple matter of failure in corporate governance and breach of basic HSE principles and I don't have to be a consultant to NCAA for my common sense to deduce if there has been a breach or not.

Attacking my credibility based on the correct (or in this case incorrect) name of the parastatal is off track and typing the incorrect abbreviation of the name doesn't in any way prove the submission of an ethical breach wrong. Nor does it in any way constitute irrefutable proof of lack of knowledge of the organization (Note: knowledge that's not even needed to pass an informed opinion on a simple matter as basic precaution)

Do I have to know all about Julius Berger to be able to tell that if they don't take strict steps to ensure all workers and visitors in their yards are aPproproately kitted safely according to standards, then they are liable if an accident happens in said yard as a result of this breach?

Well now, it's up to Mr. Demuren to challenge the termination in a competent court and explain why he's not liable for the administrative lapses that allowed an aircraft with documented engine trouble take-off from an airport where NCAA has oversight function of preventing exactly things like this. Is that complete enough?

My luv!:


Can you confirm the documented engine trouble? Anyways, it is still lawful to clear an aircraft with some known deficiencies to fly as stipulated by the law.
So, if you are claiming the recorded deficiency caused both engines of the aircraft to fail, then I suggest you come open so to help lessen the burden on the investigators.

Do you still have in memory the stated reason for his sack? What where the unanswered questions and when were the said questions asked? What a reason!

I still maintain it's purely politics. Giving the dog a bad name.......