Syncan:


Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Who breastfed that mighty God? You may insult her all you want, I guess its your way of calling her blessed.

bukatyne:

Do you understand the bolded?

italo:

Why dont you answer the question and stop looking for a detour.

Who breastfed that "mighty God?"

You?

italo:

Why dont you answer the question and stop looking for a detour.

Who breastfed that "mighty God?"

You?

italo:

Matt 14:33 Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matt 16:16:Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

Explain the word "are" to us, the way you explained "shall."

Does it also talk about a future occurence...or the present?

italo:

Why dont you answer the question and stop looking for a detour.

Who breastfed that "mighty God?"

You?

m.k.o2005:

Jesus was the son of Mary-Remember 'HE came in the likeness of man'-No wonder the assertion that he was 100% man! This made Mary the mother of Jesus !
Jesus is the son of God-Most Christians do not have a problem with this cos there are numerous scriptures to back it up ! But He was also 100 % spirit.This made HIM the son of God here and not of Mary.Mary can not bre.as't feed a spirit !
See below words of our lord Jesus Christ while HE was handling spiritual matters as the son of God and not son of Mary :
''While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”

God help us

naijadeyhia:


So the God who created breasts is now being fed physically by His creation? Wow. Perhaps when your wife delivers a baby her baby will turn around and breast feed your wife and not the other way round. God is the potter and Mary is the clay. The Clay cannot dictate to the potter.

A carnal mind can never understand the things of the spirit thats why you catholics take the bible as a mere literature but but forgetting what is written in the same word of God

2 Corinthians 3:4-6

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


Because you are simply following the letter without the life of the Holy Spirit you are dead already and do not even know it

bukatyne:

I should actually tell you that.

Imagine yourself, Mary the mother of God! So your God has a mother? And He created man (male and female) in His image? Bia, where was Mary during the creation? Breatfeeding Jesus abi?

You guys are impossible.

Kaycee7: Did you say you're catholic?

Kaycee7: So who is Mary?

Kaycee7: Are you implying Mary didn't breastfeed Jesus?

bukatyne:

Emm, you don't believe the words of Paul in the Bible but you believe the words of the person who calls Mary and co saints?

Paul could lie? You mean there might be lies in the BIBLE?

Kaycee7: Are you implying Mary didn't breastfeed Jesus?

St.Ola:


Joshua was noted to have prayed during battle that the sun should stand still, it was recorded the sun then stood still. The old testament also defines the earth as firmly established and cannot be moved,and because this is in the no lie possible book called bible, the church persecuted Galileo and made him recant his support of the scientific concept of heliocentrism (the stationary sun is center of the universe with all other moving bodies including earth revolving round it) advanced by Copernicus.

You, like the Church in the Galileo case attach a perfection that doesn't exist to the bible. Bible scholars know it is a book containing as many inconsistencies as there are truths, nothing to be surprised about, as it never descended from heaven. Rather it contains prophesies and revelations, God given instructions, documentation of events, chronicles of event whose accuracy isn't more perfect than the men who authored them, and lastly the personal viewpoints of men as permitted by their own understanding of both the law and the gospel.

To make the bible any more divine than it is would usually result to you taking the opinions and arguments of Paul or any others' as word of God not to be debated. From your logic, any word uttered in the bible must have received the seal of heaven?

Paul was man and salvation come not by his blood, and so him addressing the faithful as saints does not make them. No Saint on earth until the journey is completed and one is counted among the living by him who gives eternal life.

St.Ola:


Joshua was noted to have prayed during battle that the sun should stand still, it was recorded the sun then stood still. The old testament also defines the earth as firmly established and cannot be moved,and because this is in the no lie possible book called bible, the church persecuted Galileo and made him recant his support of the scientific concept of heliocentrism (the stationary sun is center of the universe with all other moving bodies including earth revolving round it) advanced by Copernicus.

You, like the Church in the Galileo case attach a perfection that doesn't exist to the bible. Bible scholars know it is a book containing as many inconsistencies as there are truths, nothing to be surprised about, as it never descended from heaven. Rather it contains prophesies and revelations, God given instructions, documentation of events, chronicles of event whose accuracy isn't more perfect than the men who authored them, and lastly the personal viewpoints of men as permitted by their own understanding of both the law and the gospel.

To make the bible any more divine than it is would usually result to you taking the opinions and arguments of Paul or any others' as word of God not to be debated. From your logic, any word uttered in the bible must have received the seal of heaven?

Paul was man and salvation come not by his blood, and so him addressing the faithful as saints does not make them. No Saint on earth until the journey is completed and one is counted among the living by him who gives eternal life.

naijadeyhia:


Did i say i was a hater? If salvation came to me through Mary then I wonder what Jesus Came to do. My friend, blasphemy is a sin against the Holy Spirit. Be careful!

St.Ola:


Joshua was noted to have prayed during battle that the sun should stand still, it was recorded the sun then stood still. The old testament also defines the earth as firmly established and cannot be moved,and because this is in the no lie possible book called bible, the church persecuted Galileo and made him recant his support of the scientific concept of heliocentrism (the stationary sun is center of the universe with all other moving bodies including earth revolving round it) advanced by Copernicus.

You, like the Church in the Galileo case attach a perfection that doesn't exist to the bible. Bible scholars know it is a book containing as many inconsistencies as there are truths, nothing to be surprised about, as it never descended from heaven. Rather it contains prophesies and revelations, God given instructions, documentation of events, chronicles of event whose accuracy isn't more perfect than the men who authored them, and lastly the personal viewpoints of men as permitted by their own understanding of both the law and the gospel.

To make the bible any more divine than it is would usually result to you taking the opinions and arguments of Paul or any others' as word of God not to be debated. From your logic, any word uttered in the bible must have received the seal of heaven?

Paul was man and salvation come not by his blood, and so him addressing the faithful as saints does not make them. No Saint on earth until the journey is completed and one is counted among the living by him who gives eternal life.

naijadeyhia:


Anyone who responds to you from this point on after what you just posted above is definitely not wise because your post above clearly shows who you are and where you already are. So the word of God which is God himself isnt perfect? But your catholic bible scholars are? Your Pope is? Perhaps your Pope and Bible scholars are so perfect that none of them died they just remained the same as the years went by or perhaps they are so perfect because they created their own brains and attached perfection to it or perhaps they are so perfect that they are now the Holy spirit, Jesus and God all rolled into one. But wait a minute I guess if they were perfect then the catholic church wouldnt be having its 265th Pope today because you would have still had 1 and the current Pope would be your St. Peter and the catholic scholars would be the Jesuit priests of today.

Re-probation

bukatyne:

St. Ola, we really have nothing to discuss anymore since you don't believe that Bible is perfect.

Good Day

chuqudy: Some think that the blessed virgin Mary is a member of Roman Catholic Church or Othodox Church. Whenever protestants want to ridicule and insult the Catholic faith, they start by degrading Mary and robbing from her the honour given only to her by God Himsef when He sent Arch angel Gabriel to her saying "HAIL MARY FULL OF GRACE, THE LORD IS WITH YOU" Elizabeth continued from where the Angel stopped and said to Mary, "Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus." The word "blessed" is a word of praise. You can mistaken it with worship given to God. Notice that the word "blessed" was used for mary and for Jesus. A protestant can equally say, Elizabeth was worshiping mary. For more than 1500 years, mary has been prayed to, honored and venerated. Even the first protestants like Lutherians, Anglicans etc maintained the honour and veneration of the blessed Virgin Mary while they stopped praying to her. This song was sang in the early protestant churches.

Ye watchers and ye holy ones,
Bright seraphs, cherubim and thrones,
Raise the glad strain, Alleluia!
Cry out, dominions, princedoms, powers,
Virtues, archangels, angels’ choirs:
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!

O higher than the cherubim,
More glorious than the seraphim,
Lead their praises, Alleluia!
Thou bearer of th’eternal Word,
Most gracious, magnify the Lord.
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!

Respond, ye souls in endless rest,
Ye patriarchs and prophets blest,
Alleluia! Alleluia!
Ye holy twelve, ye martyrs strong,
All saints triumphant, raise the song.
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!

O friends, in gladness let us sing,
Supernal anthems echoing,
Alleluia! Alleluia!
To God the Father, God the Son,
And God the Spirit, Three in One.
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!

In this song, the early protestants recognized the Virgin as more glorious and higher than the cherubim and ceraphim. I pity the new generation of protestants. Many of you protestants are living a good life but what will send you to hell is your insults to the Mother of God and probably your false accusations against the one and Holy Catholic church. The only church that has survived for more than 2000 years now and with more than 1.2 billion powerful believers.

St.Ola:


I am not at all surprised by your emotional and "how dare he" response to my post. I consider myself objective and scholarly, and seldom let my emotions becloud my assessment of any matter.

You and I played no part in the writings that became scripture. That you argue the bible is a perfect book only confirms your implied position that the bible is entirely divine and from the printing press in heaven, markedly different from my historical factual position concerning its composition and compilation.

Till today, bible scholars(Jews, Christians and academics), linguists and archaeologists around the world, venture into the unlit world of the origins of certain bible books and its authorship.

Such research is what places the gospel of Mark above Matthew on the matter of which was written 1st, it is such which concludes that the book Hebrews could not have been authored by Paul, and research even suggest certain events chronicled could not have occurred in the succession recorded in the bible when compared to records of the reign of associated kings and other characters as available in other written records.

From your perspective the records of the bible is right because it was written by angels and handed to man, while the associated secular records of world events are false having be written by man?

I suppose the Jewish records of the succession troubles in the house of David is the word of God, same for the travelling misfortunes of the Apostle Paul? I suppose the Acts of the Apostles is no longer the records of a doctor named Luke, it was a revelation to him?

Do you even know the difference between commandment, revelation, documentation and chronology of events, and the the many statements uttered by multitudes of characters both the old and new testament? Is every word uttered in the bible from God?

Your religious fundamentalism needs a cure.

naijadeyhia:

She breastfed Jesus the man and not Jesus the son of God. Spiritually He was God but physically He was man. Mary only dealt with Jesus as a Man and from the realm of the flesh. She didnt even have any idea about the fullness of the ministry of Christ nor what He had to do in order to save humanity. She was simply a follower of Jesus the Christ just like everyone else.

m.k.o2005:

Mary the mother of Jesus bre.astfed Jesus and not God !

naijadeyhia:

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FYI i am not a protestant but a child of the one and only living God who sent His only begotten son Jesus to die for the likes of you, me and your immaculately concepted Mary... oh before i forget, Jesus also died for the Pope and for Peter. But alas he did not stay dead but rose again so that I can be forgiven and justified by his shed blood on the cross. And as many as received HIM to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD even unto them that believe in HIS name.

Now that I have received Christ and Believe in HIS finished work for me, HE has given me HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be a seal upon me unto the day of my LORD. This HOLY SPIRIT glorifies GOD in me, TEACHES and LEADS me into all truth, TAKES OF GOD and reveals to me, IS SHOWING me things that are yet to come, and now I am seated with CHRIST far above principalities and powers, above spiritual powers in high places because JESUS CHRIST declares that ALL POWER (AUTHORITY) IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO HIM and He has sent me into my world with the same authority and power given to him by His father. I AM NOW A JOINT HEIR WHILE HERE ON EARTH BECAUSE HE TOLD ME THAT I AM IN THE WORLD BUT NOT OF THE WORLD. Physically i live here but Spiritually I belong to another kingdom. THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH, THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL, THE ONE WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME. ALLELUIA!
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Kaycee7: Let me get you both. There was a Jesus on earth and there was another Jesus in heaven, right?

God help us

naijadeyhia:


So the God who created breasts is now being fed physically by His creation? Wow. Perhaps when your wife delivers a baby her baby will turn around and breast feed your wife and not the other way round. God is the potter and Mary is the clay. The Clay cannot dictate to the potter.

A carnal mind can never understand the things of the spirit thats why you catholics take the bible as a mere literature but but forgetting what is written in the same word of God

2 Corinthians 3:4-6

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


Because you are simply following the letter without the life of the Holy Spirit you are dead already and do not even know it

naijadeyhia:


Peter when He called Jesus the Christ spoke via revelation. Because immediately after he said that Jesus made it known to Him that it was God that revealed to Peter His true spiritual identity. Peter spoke of what he saw in the spirit but standing right before him was Jesus in the flesh. Everyone else saw Jesus in the flesh but for a moment Peter saw what others could not.

The same Jesus in the flesh was the same Jesus that Mary gave birth to. How would Christ have been the perfect Sacrifice if he did not in all totality represent Man? The Same man who has been Judged for his sins. God needed to exact judgment on a man and Jesus came in the flesh to take upon himself that Judgement. And the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.

What I just wrote above needs a spiritual mind to understand it, if you dont please do not blame me rather ask God for the Holy spirit and He will give the Holy Spirit to you.