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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


its because of your petty slave mentality following islam/christianity.

Hmmmm

So how has Fulani's Paganism advanced them?

Just tell me

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:44pm On Jun 21, 2013
maclatunji:

The opening post has a load of falsehood. Islam remains an integral part of modern Yoruba history. That is how people like moi exist.

PROSTITUTION IS ALSO AN INTEGRAL PART OF "MODERN YORUBA HISTORY". (no offence intended to my Yoruba brethren)

DOES THAT MEAN WE COUNT PROSTITUTION ALSO AS PART OF YORUBA HISTORY

ABEG MACLATUNJI, I TIRE O. PLEASE SHUT UP.

THE ONLY RELIGION OF YORUBAS IS IFA-ORISHA. NOTHING ELSE.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:45pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Hmmmm

So how has Fulani's Paganism advanced them?

Just tell me

FULANI LOST ALMOST ALL THEIR PAGANISM. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE NEVER ADVANCED. THEY HAVE ONLY KILLED IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

PAGANISM THOUGHT THE FULANI HOW TO REAR COWS AND HOW TO PERFORM GERHEWOL CEREMONY, etc.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


PROSTITUTION IS ALSO AN INTEGRAL PART OF "MODERN YORUBA HISTORY". (no offence intended to my Yoruba brethren)

DOES THAT MEAN WE COUNT PROSTITUTION ALSO AS PART OF YORUBA HISTORY

ABEG MACLATUNJI, I TIRE O. PLEASE SHUT UP.

THE ONLY RELIGION OF YORUBAS IS IFA-ORISHA. NOTHING ELSE.

Where's your source......I really want to tweak your brain...

Why must you post anyhow just to further the pagan fallacy?
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:47pm On Jun 21, 2013
nijanigga: Youruba people originated from Saudi-Arabia and migrated to Nigeria through Egypt. In the past they broadcast news in yoruba from Egypt. We also have yorubas in Brazil. Alots of them found thier way back to Lagos after slave trade.That's why You hear names like; aganga pinhnero from Lagos.


are you mad bro

what tribe is Yoruba if its Arab of Adnanite or Qahtanite origin? can you recite the names of your Arab ancestors
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:47pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Where's your source......I really want to tweak your brain...

Why must you post anyhow just to further the pagan fallacy?


shut up you american. stop interfering in our business.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


FULANI LOST ALMOST ALL THEIR PAGANISM. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE NEVER ADVANCED. THEY HAVE ONLY KILLED IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

PAGANISM THOUGHT THE FULANI HOW TO REAR COWS AND HOW TO PERFORM GERHEWOL CEREMONY, etc.

Which Fulanis?

Nigerian Fulanis that are as educated as their cows are still pagans

The most advanced Fulanis in Nigeria are the ones assimilated into Hausa religion of Islam.

Yoruba Muslims are as educated as their Christian and traditionalist counterparts... tho
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by maclatunji: 6:48pm On Jun 21, 2013
9jacrip:

Sir, what do you mean by the bolded'?

What is 'modern Yoruba history?

[size=15pt]Islam made its way into Yoruba land, thanks to the contact Mr. Afonja made with the Fulanis and the invasion of the Yoruba land/Jihad[/size]

It is laughable for you to think that "Mr. Afonja" was the only person through which Yoruba's encountered Islam. Historians tend to limit history to a few personalities and places. They won't kill themselves now.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:



shut up you american. stop interfering in our business.

Post your source and stop acting like an imbe.cile.
Where did you get your "fact"?
Did the oracle tell you?


PAGAN 9JA:


PROSTITUTION IS ALSO AN INTEGRAL PART OF "MODERN YORUBA HISTORY". (no offence intended to my Yoruba brethren)

DOES THAT MEAN WE COUNT PROSTITUTION ALSO AS PART OF YORUBA HISTORY

ABEG MACLATUNJI, I TIRE O. PLEASE SHUT UP.

THE ONLY RELIGION OF YORUBAS IS IFA-ORISHA. NOTHING ELSE.

dem craze you

You enter hot soup today
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:49pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Which Fulanis?

Nigerian Fulanis that are as educated as their cows are still pagans

The most advanced Fulanis in Nigeria are the ones assimilated into Hausa religion of Islam.

Yoruba Muslims are as educated as their Christian and traditionalist counterparts... tho


Catch and bring me ONE Pagan Fulani (not syncretists) and Ill reward you with money. GO!
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:49pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Post your source and stop acting like an slowpoke.
Where did you get your "fact"?
Did the oracle tell you?


SHUT UP AMERICAN. GTFOH!
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:



Catch and bring me ONE Pagan Fulani (not syncretists) and Ill reward you with money. GO!

Sorry, my legs aint made for catching bush rats tongue


PAGAN 9JA:

SHUT UP AMERICAN. GTFOH!

As I thought......as educated as the cows they breed.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Post your source and stop acting like an imbe.cile.
Where did you get your "fact"?
Did the oracle tell you?


Where's your source, adoondi
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:51pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Sorry, my legs aint made for catching bush rats tongue




As I thought......as educated as the cows they breed.


GTFOH AMERICAN! HALF BREEDS! angry
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Orikinla(m): 6:51pm On Jun 21, 2013
maclatunji:

The opening post has a load of falsehood. Islam remains an integral part of modern Yoruba history. That is how people like moi exist.
Of course Islam has influenced modern Yorubaland.
Even a dummy knows that.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:52pm On Jun 21, 2013
Orikinla:
Of course Islam has influenced modern Yorubaland.
Even a dummy knows that.

In a bad way ofcourse.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Abiscomatism(m): 6:53pm On Jun 21, 2013
Yoruba, the Oduduwas, we really proud of been Yoruba.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


In a bad way ofcourse.

Yes, and the body rituals of paganism affected Nigerians in a good way abi?

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:56pm On Jun 21, 2013
sweetcheecks: Absolutely beautiful. I love the Yorubas and expect to have Yoruba kids. The information will help understand their history.
Thank you.
Proudly Xhosa/ Yoruba! kiss kiss kiss

There will be no need to pollute the Yoruba genopool. Thnx.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:57pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


Yes, and the body rituals of paganism affected Nigerians in a good way abi?

does it have to?

are we doing rituals for Nigeria?

what an idi.ot.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by druid06(m): 6:58pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


There will be no need to pollute the Yoruba genopool. Thnx.

Hahaha, this part got be cracking. Nice one!

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


There will be no need to pollute the Yoruba genopool. Thnx.

You're an ediot....Why not stick to Fulani newsss

You still havent provided the source.

In fact your ignorance is polluting this thread.

@sweetcheeks

Welcome to the family dear

Ignore the cow herder kiss

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


does it have to?

are we doing rituals for Nigeria?

what an idi.ot.


So doing body rituals is okay, but killing for allah is not?

Kini difference?

Abeg....let me not help you divert this thread from its main purpose
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:02pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


You're an ediot....Why not stick to Fulani newsss

You still havent provided the source.

In fact your ignorance is polluting this thread.

@sweetcheeks

Welcome to the family dear

Ignore the cow herder kiss

You are an a$$hole. why are you relating me with Fulani

what source? wtfs your problem

what family? your half-bred family

PLEASE. We are full-blooded tribespeople. go mind your own business.

oh and btw, my people are not cow herders. We are Proud Farmers, Statesmen and Businesspeople. cool

not that there is anything wrong with being a cow herder. its an honourble business. and definitely better than a filthy akata p.ornographic actor.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Orikinla(m): 7:03pm On Jun 21, 2013
[size=18pt]It is a tragedy that majority of Yorubas today don't even know their own origins and prefer to make references to ambiguous and erroneous sources.
You are a disgrace to Yoruba civilization that even preceded that of Egypt.
Ahaa you shame me.


The Western Africa is the source of an ancient religious traditions such as Ifa and Vodun. Many anthropologists consider that the approximate age of these religions is 10 ‘ 000 years. They also agree that they have common practices in basis. For thousand years cosmology, complicated ceremonies and initiations have been developed to the very high level and even now there is no need to append or to make any improvements in it. There are two major religions in western Africa – Ifa and Vodun. These religions have the same basic principles in practices and ceremonies.

Nowadays there are hundred temples all across Nigeria, Benin, Togo, Ghana, devoted to Ifa and Orisha. There, the followers perform the ancient rituals with drumbeats, chanting, dances, sacrifices and communicating with the Spirit through possession, as it was thousands years ago At present times, Ifa is well known all over the world. Many people find in it the source of strength, confidence in a coming day,
they began to understand themselves and reveal secrets of the Universe. Many people became interested in this powerful religion not only because of its efficiency, but also because all religious-mystical components have been developed in details.One of the highest and most respected titles in hierarchy of Ifa religion is Babalawo what means – «Father of Mystery», the similar title in Vodun is known as Bokono.

Ancient religion Ifa is a coded message of Olodumare (Creator), revealed to people by a prophet Orunmila (Ela). Witness of Destiny or Orunmila is the father of wisdom, knowledge’s and understanding. He brought the Law of Olodumare into this world. Ifa is a science where a follower performing certain actions, reaches specific results. These knowledge’s will also help to maintain harmony and balance with Olodumare. Ifa preserves and keeps balance in various societies what makes a basis of spiritual tradition
of Yoruba.Doctrine of Ifa, contains knowledge that the World is a system which is perfectly balanced and it functions according to internal rules. It supports development and balance of all living. The religion of Yoruba people – Ifa had been arisen in a cradle of a civilization in a sacred city Ile Ife. It became a source and a basis of all Afro-Caribbean traditions, which appeared during slavery in Western countries, such as: .Candomble (Ketu), Santeria Lukumi etc. Verbal stories of Yoruba people informs us, that Ile Ife (city in the Western Africa) is a place where the Highest God created people of all races: black, yellow and white. After that, they dispersed across the Earth. All Yoruba tribes as well as inhabitants of Benin and Dahomey trace their origin from Ile Ife (1).

The central creative force in Yoruba religion (Ifa) is Olodumare. His force is in all things and displays. Olodumare is a creator of all Irunmole(2) (Orisha) – spiritual forces. Irunmole maintain secrets of evolution of the Universe. According to Yoruba theology, Irunmole (spiritual forces which are messengers of Olodumare) rule over all existing phenomena in Ikole Orun (Kingdom of Spirit) as well as in Ikole Aye (Kingdom of Earth). The whole world had been created by Irunmole and all living things in it and human being by itself.

The ancient Yoruba Ifa doctrine considers the Universe as a perfect creation of Olodumare. Thousands years ago, on the basis of the accumulated knowledge’s and experience, ancient Yoruba identified primary forces of the Universe, learned how to interact with them and named them all. They understood, that the existing Universe consists from 801 Irunmole, 400 of them constantly stay in Orun (the World of Spirit). The rest part of Irunmole (401), from which 200 are positive forces and 200 negative ones, they
are also known as Ajoogun (these forces bring death, wars and diseases). These forces constantly move from Orun (Kingdom of Spirit) to Aye (Kingdom of Earth) and back. Irunmole know all secrets of this world and are messenger of the Creator, therefore they control all existing phenomena, both in Ikole Orun and in Ikole Aye. All Irunmole – have their personality, their own individuality and consciousness. Their force influence natural world and everyday life of every person. Irunmole affect various aspects of life, they express complexity and many-sided nature of Olodumare. People have an opportunity for interaction with self-realizing emanations (Irunmole) of Olodumare. In interaction with them the person can achieve amazing results in private life. Ifa gave us knowledges that Olodumare did not create people for sufferings on Earth and, possessing secret knowledge which Ifa gives us, we have possibility to live the way every human being should – in happiness and creation.

Understanding of secrets of invisible spiritual forces is possible, only through direct interaction with them. That is why in religious-magic Yoruba tradition, one of the major roles has a discipline named Ifaiyа – that is intended to establish connection with the spiritual forces that have their own self-consciousnesses.Discipline Ifaiyа contains ogbon inu – the aggravated intuition, мsotele – forseeing of the future, alala – communication with Orisha through dreams, egungun – obsession by the Spirit of Ancestors and Orisa’gun – obsession by Orisha (Irunmole). Yoruba names obsession by the word “ini”, what means “I”. That refers that it is a unification with the transcendental spiritual forces which are outside of human consciousness.

The Yoruba religion (Ifa), learns the followers first of all they should pay attention to igoke or to spiritual growth and if the follower will succeed in it, money, health, success will come as necessary component for a proper life. For Ifa followers it is important to be able to make the decision according to “ eri-okan “ (clear understanding, the ability to distinguish a correct act from wrong. The literal translation of a word «eri-okan» is feeling of your heart).

For the better understanding of the River of Life and of the will of spiritual forces Irunmole, followers of Yoruba religion – Ifa and Orisha, use a tremendous range of different systems of prediction such as: Obi Abata (cola nuts), Opele (chain of Ifa), Ikin (sacred nuts of a palm tree) and Merindinlogun (sixteen cowrie shells). Studying the prediction systems is a key part of knowledges of all African traditions. The whole religious-magic practices are very efficient because Yoruba oracles are based on instructions sent
from the Spiritual world. The highest oracle of predictive system of Ifa is based on 256 Odu (3). 16 of them are superior ones. These 16 Odu create 240 Omo Odu (Children of Odu). Total numder is 256 Odu Ifa. Ifa is a very powerful force, capable to cope with any problem: to reflect ibi (misfortunes), arun (illnesses), ofo (losses) and even iku (death), ejo (judicial precedent), also it is capable to draw into a humans life ire aje (riches), ire alaafia (success), ogbo, ato (physical health and a long life), and also igoke – spiritual growth.

Notes.
1-by Afolabi Epega “Ancient Wisdom of Ifa”
2-Irunmole (yor.) – Pure, primary spirit/energy.
3- A highly respected Baba Osundia explained quite eloquent what is Odu: “Odu are sacred symbols that contain ase (life force) of all living. Odu – schemes of dynamic movement of energies which identify the basic Forces of the natural world. Odu are unusual mandalas representing active and passive energies of a present situation with tremendous exactness. Various displays of Heavens and the Earth are born in the Odu and through the same sacred tracks they will return to primary emptiness. Odu operate cycles of the Nature and sands of time. Odu is a space energy of creation, a fabric of a life. The symbols representing the Odu, symbolize keys of the Primary Universe, the Uterus in which all Life was born. Through this gate prays enter into heart of the Universe, and through them we receive the answer from Orisha. Odu operates a birth of a baby and death of the Teacher. These are the streams rushing into a bed of a dried river, the easy rain bringing freshness, the hurricane brining destruction, a flame which grants light and burns, – all this within the limits of abilities the Odu. The face of Odu carries a smile of pleasure and expresses shout of a torture «.
http://www.yorubaorganization.com/?page_id=124
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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:04pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


So doing body rituals is okay, but killing for allah is not?

Kini difference?

Abeg....let me not help you divert this thread from its main purpose

who does body rituals In my religion we do animal sacrifices please, ok.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


You are an a$$hole. why are you relating me with Fulani

what source? wtfs your problem

what family? your half-bred family

PLEASE. We are full-blooded tribespeople. go mind your own business.

oh and btw, my people are not cow herders. We are Proud Farmers, Statesmen and Businesspeople. cool

not that there is anything wrong with being a cow herder. its an honourble business. and definitely better than a filthy akata p.ornographic actor.

PAGAN 9JA:


who does body rituals In my religion we do animal sacrifices please, ok.


Show us the source of your prostitute post plz

All this cow-herder posts won't change a thing.

As if una suya no be human meat
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:06pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:




Show us the source of your prostitute post plz

All this cow-herder posts won't change a thing.

LMFAO! what source go to Lagos brothel and you will find out.

and now there is an international business in italy, dubai, etc., as well.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


LMFAO! what source go to Lagos brothel and you will find out.

and now there is an international business in italy, dubai, etc., as well.

The same brothel we built for our Fulani and Hausa sisters?
Na dem use am pazz. Dem say na Fulani do am better sha
So in order words, prostitution is part of your modern culture?
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:09pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


The same brothel we built for our Fulani and Hausa sisters?
Na dem use am pazz. Dem say na Fulani do am better sha
So in order words, prostitution is part of your modern culture?

prostitution is part of every modern culture, justl ike islam, christianity, etc.

My point is, we must not let these evil things to tarnish the great history and image of our tribes.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jun 21, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


prostitution is part of every modern culture, justl ike islam, christianity, etc.

My point is, we must not let these evil things to tarnish the great history and image of our tribes.

Yea, torturing and sacrificing helpless, innocent animals aint evil....

Ngga GTFOH grin

What a joker
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by yokiti: 7:12pm On Jun 21, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


You dey madt?
This is not another Ibo-Jews story teller?
Arab ko Chinese ni

Sister mi, have you heard of Lamurudu before; the history book I used gave a detaiedl chronicle of Yoruba coming from Arab nation of the present day Saudi Arabia;
.
Oduduwa given birth to by LAMURUDU left Saudi when war was been waged against him. He finally settled down in Ile-Ife; given birth to Okanbi and being the grand parents of the 7 Okanbi's Children (first 2 were females Oluwo of Owu and Alaketu of Ketu)
while the remaining were males:
3rd being the person that became Oba of Benin that took the beads when their father died.
4.Olupopo of Popo
5:Onisabe of Sabe
6.Orangun of Ila
7. Oranyan of Oyo take became the Aole and was in custody of all the land since His elder siblings have taken all their father's property. ) one of them took all the wives, one, money, another took the cattles while Oranyan was left with the land which he later sold to His sibling in exchange for part of their own inheritance.
.
P.S: please pardon some of the inadequacies if at all their is any, I read those history books for fun in 1990s and havent opened any of it again since then.
I am proud of my heritage as a Yoruba!!!

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