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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jan 15, 2017
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 5:13pm On Jan 15, 2017
yomiknows:
I don't think it's possible to do solely melange farming and make a profit with the current price of feed. Just my point of view, I may be wrong


It is possible to make profit.
3 fish of melange make one kg
300naira will feed 3fish that makes up 1kg
Therefore, 100naira will feed 1 fish to attain average of 350gram
For example 3000 melange will consume 300,000 naira for them to attain 1000kg @ average of 350gram per fish
150,000 @ average of 7,500 per bag will give you 20bags of floating feed that is 300kg of feed
150,000 naira for local feed of 600kg total feed equal 900kg
Total weight of 3000melange give 1000kg
1000kg X 600(current price of melange) gross profit 600,000 - 300,000 equal 300,000 net profit
(Note: The fish would attain average miinimum of 100gram each with floating feed)

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 15, 2017
I have two 16ft by 8ft by 3.5ft . I stock 250 fishes of average size of the fish is 150g in one pond and the second pond is has about 426fishes with average size of 70g
Ttalk:

What is the size of your pond, what is average size of your fish. How many fish are there in the pond?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by vroom(m): 7:09pm On Jan 15, 2017
bilag17:
Your interest has been a concern for consideration. I have been using own local pelletized feed for years, and the result has been an encouragement to me. If interested, we can come up with an arrangement that may be a local fish feed solution, not only to us, but also to other fish farmers around us.

pls i am interested in this
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 8:08pm On Jan 15, 2017
Busayo1981:
I have two 16ft by 8ft by 3.5ft . I stock 250 fishes of average size of the fish is 150g in one pond and the second pond is has about 426fishes with average size of 70g

I would advice you allow the one in the pond to attain 150gram before switching to local feed. The other bigger one can be fed local.
For the mortality, treat your pond first and observe before treating your fish.
Also observe if there are no mold growth on the feed
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 9:07pm On Jan 15, 2017
Should I feed d bigger ones twice a day
Ttalk:


I would advice you allow the one in the pond to attain 150gram before switching to local feed. The other bigger one can be fed local.
For the mortality, treat your pond first and observe before treating your fish.
Also observe if there are no mold growth on the feed
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jan 15, 2017
Pls what is fcr
Ttalk:

Vital is good. Since you are spreading to other ponds I suggest u dedicate one pond to local feed. The experience you will get will help you in subsequent production. Knowledge in local feed management is necessary for expansion

Consider the cost of floating feed like vital that cost 6800 per 15kg, if your FCR is 1:1 then you will required 453naira to attain 1kg apart from other sundry expenses.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 9:51pm On Jan 15, 2017
Busayo1981:
Pls what is fcr
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 9:59pm On Jan 15, 2017
Busayo1981:
Pls what is fcr

Feed twice

FCR means Feed Conversion Ratio that is the quantity of feed that translate to body weight of the fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 10:12pm On Jan 15, 2017
thank u sir. this is the fumulation of local feed i used

gnc 20kg
soya beans 30kg
biscuits 30kg
fm 72% 25kg
methionine 0.1
lysine 0.1
premix 0.2
salt 2kg
mycofix 0.2
vit c 0.1
calcium 1kg
palmoil 2bottles
is this formular okay. this is my first. also how do i treat my pond. the local feed does not have mold on it. my fishes also eat very well.
Ttalk:


Feed twice

FCR means Feed Conversion Ratio that is the quantity of feed that translate to body weight of the fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 10:28pm On Jan 15, 2017
Busayo1981:
@Ttalk pls how many times should i feed my fishes using local feeds. i currently feed them two times in a day n i experience 2 deaths every time i change water. i change my water every three days. kindly advice.
Change your water every two days and observe.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jan 15, 2017
will do that thank you
bilag17:
Change your water every two days and observe.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 10:39pm On Jan 15, 2017
Busayo1981:
thank u sir. this is the fumulation of local feed i used

gnc 20kg
soya beans 30kg
biscuits 30kg
fm 72% 25kg
methionine 0.1
lysine 0.1
premix 0.2
salt 2kg
mycofix 0.2
vit c 0.1
calcium 1kg
palmoil 2bottles
is this formular okay. this is my first. also how do i treat my pond. the local feed does not have mold on it. my fishes also eat very well.
How old are the fishes you give this?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 10:50pm On Jan 15, 2017
vroom:


pls i am interested in this
pls, where is your location? Let me know ur view about pelletized local feed,. Which type of pond system are you using?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jan 15, 2017
they are 7 weeks in my pond and the person that sold it to me said the fingerlins about two months old b4 i bought them
bilag17:
How old are the fishes you give this?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by globalfanz(m): 6:50am On Jan 16, 2017
Keep the knowledge flowing my people. This is school of fish otherwise know as UNIFISH

Cheers
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 8:15am On Jan 16, 2017
Busayo1981:
thank u sir. this is the fumulation of local feed i used

gnc 20kg
soya beans 30kg
biscuits 30kg
fm 72% 25kg
methionine 0.1
lysine 0.1
premix 0.2
salt 2kg
mycofix 0.2
vit c 0.1
calcium 1kg
palmoil 2bottles
is this formular okay. this is my first. also how do i treat my pond. the local feed does not have mold on it. my fishes also eat very well.
I think that 2kg of salt and 2 bottles of palm oil are much for the quantity of feed. What is their effect on the fish?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 8:16am On Jan 16, 2017
@ Busayo1981 your compsition is rich but lacks binding agent such as starch. This should not be less than 15% if you want to achieve good binding.
This could have led to leeches of your rich nutrient in water, causing harm to your fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 8:21am On Jan 16, 2017
bilag17:
I think that 2kg of salt and 2 bottles of palm oil are much for the quantity of feed. What is their effect on the fish?

Salt is very important in aquaculture. It aids digestion and serves as antistress. I use 1kg for every 100kg composition.
2bottle of palm oil is alright
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by frshwvfarms: 8:34am On Jan 16, 2017
bilag17:
Your interest has been a concern for consideration. I have been using own local pelletized feed for years, and the result has been an encouragement to me. If interested, we can come up with an arrangement that may be a local fish feed solution, not only to us, but also to other fish farmers around us.

Thanks for your consideration and willingness to work toward more solution. May I ask, How are you producing your feed? Do you own Pellet feed production equipment or do use manual mixing..? Does your feed float, sink or both? You mentioned the result has been encouraging. What are the challenges, if any? I was taking a look at some production machines made from China that would aid in larger productions. Have you considered such?
There can be much more progress, power, and greatness in unity. Ideas cannot be substantiated until it is tried and put to use. Good Morning
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 10:49am On Jan 16, 2017
they really do not show any sign of weakness or sickness but i am just concern 1 or 2 death i experience.
bilag17:
I think that 2kg of salt and 2 bottles of palm oil are much for the quantity of feed. What is their effect on the fish?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 10:55am On Jan 16, 2017
thanks Ttalk. I am planning to do another feed soon with the same composition. so i will request that 16kg of starch to be added?
Ttalk:
@ Busayo1981 your compsition is rich but lacks binding agent such as starch. This should not be less than 15% if you want to achieve good binding.
This could have led to leeches of your rich nutrient in water, causing harm to your fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by akinlad: 12:02pm On Jan 16, 2017
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 1:31pm On Jan 16, 2017
Ttalk:


Salt is very important in aquaculture. It aids digestion and serves as antistress. I use 1kg for every 100kg composition.
2bottle of palm oil is alright
Thanks for your explanation. I think there are guiding limits of quantity of different feed components / additives to be added to animal feeds, bearing in mind that such animals are later consumed by human being (us). Pls, what is the purpose of adding palm oil to the feed?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 1:37pm On Jan 16, 2017
Busayo1981:
they really do not show any sign of weakness or sickness but i am just concern 1 or 2 death i experience.
Very good, 1 or 2 deaths in a while is not out of place, but just be observant, and guide against regularity of occurrence thru good water management.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 1:51pm On Jan 16, 2017
frshwvfarms:


Thanks for your consideration and willingness to work toward more solution. May I ask, How are you producing your feed? Do you own Pellet feed production equipment or do use manual mixing..? Does your feed float, sink or both? You mentioned the result has been encouraging. What are the challenges, if any? I was taking a look at some production machines made from China that would aid in larger productions. Have you considered such?
There can be much more progress, power, and greatness in unity. Ideas cannot be substantiated until it is tried and put to use. Good Morning
. Quite interesting. I have feed pelletizer, mixing had been in many forms - manual to mechanical, for now sinking pellets (working towards floating). Considering those machines from China also. Challenges are many, and cannot be enumerated overnight. Had used mills in Port Harcourt, Lagos, and Ibadan, with many challenges regarding the quality of feeds. What has been your experience with the Chinese machines?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jan 16, 2017
thank you. like you said earlier, i will change my water every two days instead of three.
thanks once more.[/color][color=#000000]
bilag17:
Very good, 1 or 2 deaths in a while is not out of place, but just be observant, and guide against regularity of occurrence thru good water management.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by funso111: 2:09pm On Jan 16, 2017
Busayo1981:
thanks Ttalk. I am planning to do another feed soon with the same composition. so i will request that 16kg of starch to be added?
are we talking of starch use by dry cleaner. And if yes .how do u make use of it
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by PrimeStoves: 6:33pm On Jan 16, 2017
I am looking for a local producer of wood Pellets for cooking in Nigeria.
The wood pellets should be 8mm in diameter
Humidity content between 5-10% maximum
95% wood or with some biodegradable like rice waste or peanut shell waste.

please reach out to me @ stoves@lancorltd.com

Please again read the specs above.
Pellet manager
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 8:20pm On Jan 16, 2017
bilag17:
Thanks for your explanation. I think there are guiding limits of quantity of different feed components / additives to be added to animal feeds, bearing in mind that such animals are later consumed by human being (us). Pls, what is the purpose of adding palm oil to the feed?
Palm oil is lipid and digestible energy that provide energy need. It is a better form of energy most especially for juvenile fish because of the increasing need of energy requirement. Most plant cabonhydrates at this stage is required sparingly because of the fish inability to optimally utilise it
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bendims(m): 1:15am On Jan 17, 2017
Ttalk:


It is possible to make profit.
3 fish of melange make one kg
300naira will feed 3fish that makes up 1kg
Therefore, 100naira will feed 1 fish to attain average of 350gram
For example 3000 melange will consume 300,000 naira for them to attain 1000kg @ average of 350gram per fish
150,000 @ average of 7,500 per bag will give you 20bags of floating feed that is 300kg of feed
150,000 naira for local feed of 600kg total feed equal 900kg
Total weight of 3000melange give 1000kg
1000kg X 600(current price of melange) gross profit 600,000 - 300,000 equal 300,000 net profit
(Note: The fish would attain average miinimum of 100gram each with floating feed)

Thank you Sir for the detailed analyses. God bless you. I've asked around and discovered the highest amount customers are willing to pay for melange is 500 naira. Some even said their supplier sells it to them at 480 naira.

Assuming I sell at 500 naira that will be 500,000 - 300,000 = 200,000.
Then again we've not considered NEPA Bill and cost of fuel and cost of fingerlings. Then, expenses due to unforseen circumstances.
Let's assume NEPA Bill and cost of fuel is 20,000 naira per month = 20,000 × 3 = 60,000
Cost of fingerlings is 10 naira = 10 × 3000 = 30,000.
Let's assume unforseen expenses is 10,000.
Total cost asides from feeding = 100,000.
200,000 - 100,000 = 100,000 naira net profit. But one will still pay tax on this 100,000.
This means that for every 400,000 naira that one invests into melange production, one gets 100,000 naira as returns after three months.
The profit margin is fair.

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