My three dragon riders are Dany,Bran (you'll never walk again but you'll fly") and ******* .Btw,Gbola5, this is a TV thread so it's appropriate to call them 'White Walkers'

[b]Have been a GOT faithful since season 1. Its one series movie I totally enjoy.

But so far, I have been disappointed with Season 5..really it's a far cry from what i anticipated. The intense scheming plot to covert the Iron Throne has gradually lost steam.

.... The Lannisters are scattered with no clear formation

..... Stannis, the one true king, meddling with men of the night watch. Should be talking more about Kings Landing.

.... Khalesi has over stayed her welcome in the land of the slave masters. She has forgotten she is on transit to fight for the Iron Throne.

....The antagonistic pair: Littlefinger vs Varys, are disconnected.

.... Greyskin disease by stonemen is an unnecessary distraction.

..... You mean Jamie Lannister left Kings Landing @such a critical time?.. Sounds absurd.

.....Ayra, probably gone to learn some marshall art.. it's cool though..valar morghulis.

.... Where is Bran the cripple. Was thinking he is gonna be a major player by now. He seems lost with the 3eyed raven.

.....And Lord Commander, Mr Snow, really feels no need to avenge his family. Your father and brother were butchered and you're just concerned with forming alliance with the wildlings against the whitewalkers. Really, "you know nothing Jon Snow".

And it goes on....

I really wanna see a radical plot twist that will bring back the intense bloodthirsty politricks of the Iron throne.. cos after all said and done, IT'S ALL ABOUT KINGS LANDING. [/b]

patience....its the calm before the storm.

Gbola5:

But they ARE making stuff up, and its leading to a lot of plotholes.

Yeah? Like what?

Dgunnerz:

Whose arse is that?

Lol. Some guy that was travelling past old valeria.

Ogatitus:
[b]Have been a GOT faithful since season 1. Its one series movie I totally enjoy.

But so far, I have been disappointed with Season 5..really it's a far cry from what i anticipated. The intense scheming plot to covert the Iron Throne has gradually lost steam.

.... The Lannisters are scattered with no clear formation

..... Stannis, the one true king, meddling with men of the night watch. Should be talking more about Kings Landing.

.... Khalesi has over stayed her welcome in the land of the slave masters. She has forgotten she is on transit to fight for the Iron Throne.

....The antagonistic pair: Littlefinger vs Varys, are disconnected.

.... Greyskin disease by stonemen is an unnecessary distraction.

..... You mean Jamie Lannister left Kings Landing @such a critical time?.. Sounds absurd.

.....Ayra, probably gone to learn some marshall art.. it's cool though..valar morghulis.

.... Where is Bran the cripple. Was thinking he is gonna be a major player by now. He seems lost with the 3eyed raven.

.....And Lord Commander, Mr Snow, really feels no need to avenge his family. Your father and brother were butchered and you're just concerned with forming alliance with the wildlings against the whitewalkers. Really, "you know nothing Jon Snow".

And it goes on....

I really wanna see a radical plot twist that will bring back the intense bloodthirsty politricks of the Iron throne.. cos after all said and done, IT'S ALL ABOUT KINGS LANDING. [/b]

It's drama. It's all build up for what is to come. My guess is you like action films' instant action but not all tvs r like that. You have to enjoy each episode and look at what the bigger picture could be.

For instance,
+Stanis is going to the north (epic battle)
+jon snow going to the wildlings
+arya in bravosi
+tyrion in old valeria. My link in previous post suggests there are evils there. Something is def going to happen

I agree, Kings landing has been dry but it's because the interesting people left (littlefinger, varys,tyrion,tywin,geoffrey,bronn,podric)

LeSulk:
My three dragon riders are Dany,Bran (you'll never walk again but you'll fly" and ******* .Btw,Gbola5, this is a TV thread so it's appropriate to call them 'White Walkers'

Yeah,but who i corrected said NightWalker...

Ogatitus:
[b]Have been a GOT faithful since season 1. Its one series movie I totally enjoy.

But so far, I have been disappointed with Season 5..really it's a far cry from what i anticipated. The intense scheming plot to covert the Iron Throne has gradually lost steam.

.... The Lannisters are scattered with no clear formation

..... Stannis, the one true king, meddling with men of the night watch. Should be talking more about Kings Landing.

.... Khalesi has over stayed her welcome in the land of the slave masters. She has forgotten she is on transit to fight for the Iron Throne.

....The antagonistic pair: Littlefinger vs Varys, are disconnected.

.... Greyskin disease by stonemen is an unnecessary distraction.

..... You mean Jamie Lannister left Kings Landing @such a critical time?.. Sounds absurd.

.....Ayra, probably gone to learn some marshall art.. it's cool though..valar morghulis.

.... Where is Bran the cripple. Was thinking he is gonna be a major player by now. He seems lost with the 3eyed raven.

.....And Lord Commander, Mr Snow, really feels no need to avenge his family. Your father and brother were butchered and you're just concerned with forming alliance with the wildlings against the whitewalkers. Really, "you know nothing Jon Snow".

And it goes on....

I really wanna see a radical plot twist that will bring back the intense bloodthirsty politricks of the Iron throne.. cos after all said and done, IT'S ALL ABOUT KINGS LANDING. [/b]

After a battle, the crows come in to feast and pick up spoils, that's what's happening. Things have to settle before another big battle. As for your points;
The Lannisters are scattered because of events of previous seasons, like how it was for the Starks. Stannis isnt meddling, he's planning an attack on the Boltons at Winterfell but needs an army, so he tries to rally the northmen untapped during the war. As for Dany, her events in Slaver's Bay have led her to stay there and try to fix things before she moves on, because she damaged their economy and has enemies on her sides. LF and Varys were never connected and events of previous season is why they are in different places. Greyscale isnt an unnecesary distraction, when it eats at an entire army. They went too fast with Bran's storyline and skipped some parts and are now at the end of it. That's why he wont be appearing this season. Jaime left to rescue the princess Myrcella(this didnt happen in the books). In the books he went to settle the conflicts in the Riverlands at Riverrun, Stonehedge and Blackhaven, and he sees that some lords are still loyal to Robb Stark, this storyline is important because its part of Jaime's development from an arrogant man who cares about only his immediate self to one who starts seeing the effects of his actions and starts tries to make amends. His storyline also shows us the effects of the war and the pillaging done by his father, food supplies are low and noone trusts anyone, and winter is coming. It was really interesting, but instead they gave him Dorne and a rescue mission.

Ogatitus:
[b]Have been a GOT faithful since season 1. Its one series movie I totally enjoy.

But so far, I have been disappointed with Season 5..really it's a far cry from what i anticipated. The intense scheming plot to covert the Iron Throne has gradually lost steam.

.... The Lannisters are scattered with no clear formation

..... Stannis, the one true king, meddling with men of the night watch. Should be talking more about Kings Landing.

.... Khalesi has over stayed her welcome in the land of the slave masters. She has forgotten she is on transit to fight for the Iron Throne.

....The antagonistic pair: Littlefinger vs Varys, are disconnected.

.... Greyskin disease by stonemen is an unnecessary distraction.

..... You mean Jamie Lannister left Kings Landing @such a critical time?.. Sounds absurd.

.....Ayra, probably gone to learn some marshall art.. it's cool though..valar morghulis.

.... Where is Bran the cripple. Was thinking he is gonna be a major player by now. He seems lost with the 3eyed raven.

.....And Lord Commander, Mr Snow, really feels no need to avenge his family. Your father and brother were butchered and you're just concerned with forming alliance with the wildlings against the whitewalkers. Really, "you know nothing Jon Snow".

And it goes on....

I really wanna see a radical plot twist that will bring back the intense bloodthirsty politricks of the Iron throne.. cos after all said and done, IT'S ALL ABOUT KINGS LANDING. [/b]

Jon is concerned is conflicted but he cant abandon his vows, remember he tried in s1. The Night's Watch takes no part, remember Aemon told Jon of how he was conflicted too. He has to make peace with the wildlings, because unlike his brother's he stayed with them for a while and got to know them, they are just human like they are, with their own brave cowards short tall bad good, they just happened to be born on the wrong side of the wall and are running from the common foe. If he abandons the wildlings and they all die, then he'll be having thousands of Wights to deal with and the walkers coming. He makes a plan to settle them at the sixteen abandoned castles of the watch or at the Gift, south of the wall which is good farmland.
Ahh...The whole series doenst revolve around King's Landing you know

Ogatitus:


.... Khalesi has over stayed her welcome in the land of the slave masters. She has forgotten she is on transit to fight for the Iron Throne.

Don't mind her. She is busy playing queen where nobody can challenge her.

gj22:


Yeah? Like what?

They made Sam tell Jon of Bran, only for him to not speak of it again, plothole. The real Jon would keep looking for Bran nowing he's out beyond the wall. They do a red wedding, and then that's it. They gave us a Gendry, and then that's it. They gave us Tullys and then that's it. They did, Sansa's flee from KL, to have her at the hands of the Boltons, when her character develops at this stage.

Gbola5:

Anything im saying is speculation. And im saying, not one of Dany's but an ice dragon, cool right.

what about the much speculated stone dragon?

ApexTitan:


Don't mind her. She is busy playing queen where nobody can challenge her.

she dey form madam for dia when the real battle still lies ahead.

Ohh my Tyrion Lannister.. that crazy greyscale disease better not afflicte him cos he is the best thing that happened to Game of thrones.

Gbola5:

Lol. You have no idea what a plot hole is do you? Look up the meaning.

A plot hole is an illogical event that plays a part in the outcome of a movie. When I say illogical, I mean it doesn't follow the established universal rules that the movie has established. E.g

-a movie says a person becomes a zombie 10mins after death but then someone turns after 2 seconds just to bite the antagonist thereby saving the protagonist. That is a plothole

1. It has to create a logical inconsistency within the defined rules of the given story's universe (If magic exists and a plot hole can be explained with magic, its not a plot hole)
2. The event or occurrence that leads to the plot hole has to be an intentional part of the story.
3. It has to be 100% unexplainable by the rules of the universe. (You can't justify what happened with an off-screen interaction).

[Plot Hole] Example: The Butterfly Effect - Evan (Ashton Kutcher) proves that he can travel back in time and change the past by revisiting his childhood and impaling his hands, instantly creating scars which shock his cell mate into belief.
Why it fits: If Evan was truly travelling back in time, when he hurt his hands (creating the scars), the scars would have been with him his whole life, all the way up until the point that he went to jail, and met his cell mate. Yet in the movie, his cell mate is shocked as the scars instantly appeared in front of him. This is a clear logical fallacy and goes against the rules of the movie, that changing the past will create an impact that changes everything in the future.

Now let me explain why what you listed are not plot holes....

They made Sam tell Jon of Bran, only for him to not speak of it again, plothole.

Jon has had this issue before.. he made a vow to the nights watch and he always lived by them. Remember when Robb (or ned) died and he wanted to abandon his vows? He didn't. Him not going after bran is to show his dedication to the nights watch the same way he didn't abandon the nights watch when Robb was killed....not a plothole.

They do a red wedding, and then that's it.

i don't understand your point about the red wedding.. the show is not yet over and you don't know if it will come up in the remaining seasons... not a plothole.

Even if they don't say anything about it again, I think it has played it's part enough. It introduced the Boltons as real players remember? And it tipped the battle of the throne in favour of the lannisters. Also remember bran (?) was telling someone a story of how it is bad omen to kill guests under your own roof? That's y I think it will still play a part.

They gvae us a Gendry, and then that's it.

The show is not yet over so you don't know if "that's it"... not a plothole

They did, Sansa's flee from KL, to have her at the hands of the Boltons, when her character develops at this stage.

How is this a plothole? D& doing things differently is not a plothole


As a side note, an unresolved storyline is not a plothole .most of the things you mentioned are unresolved story lines and you are also forgetting the fact that they still have 2 seasons to resolve them.

Ogatitus:
Ohh my Tyrion Lannister.. that crazy greyscale disease better not afflicte him cos he is the best thing that happened to Game of thrones.

Tyrion is overrated.

I’ve lost a hand, a father, a son, a sister, and a lover, and soon enough I will lose a brother. And yet they keep telling me House Lannister has won this war. ” - thoughts of Jaime

In a piece of fiction, a Plot Hole
is a completely implausible
occurrence or series of events
that contradicts logic or
previously established events in
the story. Includes things such
as unlikely behaviour or actions
of characters, illogical or
impossible events, events
happening for no apparent
reason, or statements/events
that contradict earlier events in
the storyline. A plothole is also an ommission or unanswered questions if the events leading to them is not explanable and is important to a storyline.

“She burned that fine big horn, aye. A bloody sin, I call it. A thousand years old, that was. We found it in a giant’s grave, and no man o’ us had ever seen a horn so big. That must have been why Mance got the notion to tell you it were Joramun’s. He wanted you crows to think he had it in his power to blow your bloody Wall down about your knees. But we never found the true horn, not for all our digging. If we had, every kneeler in your Seven Kingdoms would have chunk’s o’ ice to cool his wine all summer.”
”
i found this quote funny. The wildings are certainly my fav folks.

A portion of scripted material, that absolutely makes no sense at all and should have never been created by the writers to begin with. A bump in the plot so bad that it kills any suspension of disbelief the viewer had.

“Would that I had the Horn of Joramun I’d give it a nice toot and we’d climb through the rubble.” ”

@blubahd to add to that "Winter is coming, warned the Stark words, and truly it had come to them with a vengeance. But it is high summer for House Lannister. So why am I so bloody cold?" - Tyrion.

For those that say this season is boring.
I get complaints sometimes that nothing happens in the fourth and fifth books—but they’re defining “nothing,” I think, differently than I am. I don’t think it all has to be battles and sword fights and assassinations. Character development and [people] changing is good, and there are some tough things in there that I think a lot of writers skip over. I’m glad I didn’t skip over these things.- GrrM...

To be fair most of the major characters didn't really progress plot wise in dose books. Dany aat in meereen doing nothing nobody cared abt up to d point GRRM was describing her going to d toilet while watchin d sunset. Sansa was just in d vale doing nothing with characters no one cares abt. Arya was off doing her training montage. Jon ws on d wall being all conflicted etc. The books just felt bloated with few movement plot wise

sage1000:
To be fair most of the major characters didn't really progress plot wise in dose books. Dany aat in meereen doing nothing nobody cared abt up to d point GRRM was describing her going to d toilet while watchin d sunset. Sansa was just in d vale doing nothing with characters no one cares abt. Arya was off doing her training montage. Jon ws on d wall being all conflicted etc. The books just felt bloated with few movement plot wise

Sansa actually starts develops at this point and wasnt just in the Vale with people noone vares about. I think you say that based on who your favorite character is. And although it left space for character developments, there were still some plots brewing in these books, that people seem to overlook.

Don't get me wrong, dey develop character wise but dey are surrounded by new characters and its difficult to muster any care for them and since they aren't doing much away from any known character, it makes it boring. I ended up skipping a lot of their chapters. It also doesn't help that germ had made it difficult to care for them

Gbola5:


Woah...no way Tyrion is fair...he's wise though...

I noticed that Tyrion considers the feelings of others in his actions and tries not to hurt others except its absolutely neccessary! thats Fairness!

I think dat reply was a pun. Tyrion is ugly not fair

Woah, i was just reading previous post, and some guys were trying to justify the Red Wedding. I'll have to say, their accounts were really short sighted. Really ?! They called it fair.

They held each other close,
And turned their backs upon the end,
The hills that split asunder,
And the black that ate the skies,
The flames that shot so high and hot,
That even dragons burned,
Would never be the final sights,
That fell upon their eyes,
A fly upon a wall,
The waves the sea wind,
Whipped and churned,
The city of a thousand years,
And all that men had learned,
The Doom consumed them all alike,
And neither of them turned.

The poem Tyrion and Ser Jorah recited on the smoking sea.
_{Maybe I should have posted this in the ASOIAF book section?}

Gbola5:
A portion of scripted material, that absolutely makes no
sense at all and should have
never been created by the
writers to begin with. A bump
in the plot so bad that it kills any
suspension of disbelief the
viewer had.

Yeah. And nothing you mentioned does that.

Jon could not go after bran cos of his dedication to the nights watch.

The red wedding has served it's purpose (there is still room for more if the writers deem fit)
....

You talk as if everything must be done right now. If there are "plotholes" in GoT, it's not what you mentioned.

Gbola5:
Woah, i was just reading previous post, and some guys were trying to justify the Red Wedding. I'll have to say, their accounts were really short sighted. Really ?! They called it fair.

When I watched that season again, I realised Robb had it coming. He felt he could just do anything he likes and get away with it. His mom warned him, he didn't listen.