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Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by olapluto(m): 2:19pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
When I first read her story, I discarded it not because of her credibility, but the credibility of her actions. Now her credibility is called to question, oh well! Emeagwali has done more damage to Nigeria than can be quantified. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
chreld_b: . All you have said is backed up with facts. Ignore the ignorant folks who do not even know you and are insulting your pedigree and progeny claiming you will never amount to anything. That aside, when I saw a video about her on YouTube, there is a claim she made about how her post grad supervisor was in the US being the first person to reprogramme somatic cells back to stem cells. I doubted that claim but took her word for it because of her apparent credibility at that time. Oga Nwando do you have any info about that? Meanwhile thank you for your brilliant expose. Thank you This is no bad belle We should not allow people just because they landed from overseas to dangle fake credentials in our faces The woman claimed to have worked for NHS for 10 yrs in 2012,and when called out she spinned the tale I posted earlier about her volunteer services from the age of 14 How ridiculous Who here will not feel deceived when a doctor counts their years as a youth selling akara at general hospital as medical experience. Well we dug further and see what we found from NHS
But dr ola in an answer about her 10 yr experience and other lies said
So let us assume volunteering as a child counts for medical experience ,hw did she volunteer with NHs at 14 when their minimum age is 17 Too many lies in her story See wetin Dokita dey count as experience |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 2:32pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
My last post will be quoting the same NHS doctor I quoted earlier from our discussions last year after her interview on Punch
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Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Cityguy: 2:33pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Flashaldrin: kai, the main reason why nigerians will never do well! You're busy hating on her just because she has achieved already at 26 what you wont achieve at 40. Keep hating and lets see if it will get you to the top.'when' or 'if'? My advice- why dont u tell ur med examiners that later part of ur trash post during ur exams? It will show how much u so desire innovation and bet u, u will be out early to start that line, disrespectful child. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 2:39pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Nwando, let me teach you how to verify the truth by tearing apart your claims. 1. As I said before I checked the GMC register online, anyone can do that and her details are there. It clearly states she is registered with a license to practice. You and your doctor friend are both quacks. to register you must have and see the quote below from GMC website: If you are applying for full registration with a licence to practise you will need to prove that you have gained the experience necessary to practise as a fully registered medical practitioner in the UK. this is the link to search for GMC registered doctors (I cannot put the link to her details specifically as it is time limited and will simply take you back to search site): http://webcache.gmc-uk.org/gmclrmp_enu/start.swe?SWECmd=GotoView&_sn=K0P8dzEJEY5pu9RNT4jxwNTQuIMdEA9SYinfwr1pOIVTevIlRuCtxF5AkDgk3tf9B.pZeR.9FtdetvrJRG7-4T3enrVvW-NMcidXgL8nt0WR-CyT1yVQJoaAZFtqRwVa4uI96Y6NIwwNLpDQDaaqOKqr1eoyX7DKQQc4FlkaV.vb27hPqUSDQQ3w1EpoHuVGnn8c7dCx44o_&SWEView=GMC+WEB+Doctor+Search&SRN=&SWEHo=webcache.gmc-uk.org&SWETS=1365514101&SWEApplet=GMC+WEB+Health+Provider+Search+Applet. or go to http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/LRMP.asp, 1st link there says show me the list, click on it and search. Go there, put her surname in, she is registered as Olamide Orekunrin, no. 7013906. A simple Google search would have shown you the link. 2. According to GMC(who check all these details b4 reg) she gained an MB BS from University of York in 2008. Her course as I saw on the Hull York Medical School website is a 5 year course and entry is granted from age 16. She started at 17. She states when she wrote her final exam she was still 21 which is very likely and by the time graduation rolled around she had turned 22. She would still be regarded as one of the youngest as a lot of times graduation in UK is done several months after exams and even more after final result. I wrote my last paper for MSc at age 23 (finished BSc at 21 in Nigeria), however by the time graduation ceremony rolled around I was 24. So her statement is entirely plausible. Note: she never said I graduated at 21, she said I wrote my final exam at 21 - learn to read and understand. 3. She never said she had a post or political career, she was aspiring to one. In case you are not aware, to aspire means to 'direct one's hopes or ambitions to achieve something'. So she left those hopes behind and instead came here. Again, truth. 4. Working experience. Well from the NHS website, work experience placements begin from Year 10 (equivalent of SS1) and which is from sge 14-16 years. Some roles which they gain experience by participation and observation include: nurses, nurses, healthcare assistants, allied health professionals such as occupational therapists, speech and language therapists and podiatrists, healthcare scientists among others. This is from NHS website oh. So it is very VERY likely that it was not a messenger job (which does not exist in the NHS anyway). NHS employs minors for placements, see the link here that gives them info: http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/media/1487492/Work_experience_in_the_NHS.pdf. It's a pdf document. So that person was ill-informed. 5. As for the bombings et al, almost if not all organizations in UK offer summer holiday placements so again very plausible. 6. Her details are also on MIT website for entrepreneurship. MIT would never put up such details without verifying authenticity. So Nwando in future if you don't know, keep quiet and do not display your ignorance. She has not told any lies. Stop doing 'they say' and do your own research and come up with verifiable facts like I have. This is journalism. 8 Likes |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 2:43pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Aigbofa: And she didn't contact the papers to retract the story,she claims same lies on her own website And this latest story here by CNN has the same lies,how do you explain that |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 2:47pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Nwando, I went to the same leeds teaching hospital nhs trust you visited and foundthis: Work Experience Now, this is just leeds, all NHS trusts have specific requirements. And she was in York or Hull not leeds. so let me check there now. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 2:51pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
6. Her details are also on MIT website for entrepreneurship. MIT would never put up such details without verifying authenticity. Emeagwali was in more places and still is despite is fraudulent claims This proves nothing There has been fakes in Ivy Leagues Don't be this gullible. 5. As for the bombings et al, almost if not all organizations in UK offer summer holiday placements so again very plausible A doctor's claim of trauma experience points to a bombing that occurred 300 km away from her medical school in 2005 and you are giving excuses Are you Dr Ola? What medical experience? Nigeria is indeed doomed when someone can in good faith find an excuse to justify 419 when revealed
Ok she started volunteering in a hospital at 14 she said so herself ,volunteering Her words Is that medical experience? Let me believe her Does one not come off her claim on her website that she actually worked 10 years as a doctor when the truth is that she had no working experience except as a trainee before she landed in landed in Nigeria as a flying kabu kabu doctor. Who counts years of babysitting as medical experience I can't believe this would sound trig hit to folks but I have been gone a while from Nigeria Anything is possible there She wouldn't dare put that on a CV in England but in Nigeria anything goes
I also have a dream of hitting the lotto That interview was not a dream She told us the things she gave up to go help the helpless in Nigeria She could not have smelled president of BMA for 20yrs if ever,it comes with experience She didn't have to lie and embellish her credentials It is noble already she graduated med school,a kid raised in a foster home but I guess the Nigerian in her had to tell stories to tickle your ears Her words
"I quit my job, said goodbye to my political aspirations for the position of the president of the British Medical Association and minister for the conservative party, I sold my car and my house, and bought my one way ticket to Lagos. I was rejected more times than I can remember. What high flying job? Housemanship? She is a good dreamer and story teller indeed. Typical Nigerian big talks,I am not surprised you are impressed by it,she knows what the people want to hear and she gave it. 2. According to GMC(who check all these details b4 reg) she gained an MB BS from University of York in 2008. Her course as I saw on the Hull York Medical School website is a 5 year course and entry is granted from age 16. She started at 17. She states when she wrote her final exam she was still 21 which is very likely and by the time graduation rolled around she had turned 22. She would still be regarded as one of the youngest as a lot of times graduation in UK is done several months after exams and even more after final result. I wrote my last paper for MSc at age 23 (finished BSc at 21 in Nigeria), however by the time graduation ceremony rolled around I was 24. So her statement is entirely plausible. According to this latest article she went into med school at 15 despite recanting that claim in an email She claims she graduated at 21, read her again So who is giving all these media houses false information about her I had earlier read she graduated with her MBBS in 2007 Now your investigation says 2008 That makes her age at graduation closer to 23 not her earlier claims of 21 Final results of British med exams are out within a few days of taking them BTW She is not the youngest graduated doctor in the UK as she claimed The youngest was 21 and prior to that a 22 year old held that record. The mere fact that you are struggling hard to explain away every falsehood she has presented speaks volumes The truth stands on it's merits Nothing fantastic about grad age so why does she emphasize it This is herin the article here
So what are you defending when she says here she graduated at 21? |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 2:53pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
York NHS says this: Volunteering is open to any one who is aged 16 and above. (http://www.yorkhospitals.nhs.uk/index.php?ob=1&id=379) York Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust works in partnership with NYBEP (North Yorkshire Business and Education Partnership) to facilitate work experience opportunities for children in years 10 and 11 (http://www.yorkhospitals.nhs.uk/index.php?id=381&ob=1) (Year Ten is an educational year group in schools in many countries including Australia, England, India, Northern Ireland, New Zealand and Wales. It is usually the tenth year of compulsory education and incorporates students aged between fourteen and sixteen - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_10) The funny thing is I don't know this girl but I so hate it when people tear others down. She is doing something good and rather than praise her you are busy trying to tear her down and we wonder why Nigeria will not progress. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 2:54pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Nwando, why did you not reply all the facts I have given you? Cat got your tongue? You chose the last two only....why not the others which tear you to shreds with easily verifiable facts? |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 3:01pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
A doctor's claim of trauma experience points to a bombing that occurred 300 km away from her medical school in 2005 and you are giving excuses She claims she was on holiday in London at the time. As I said it is not difficult to get summer placements in UK. Also with a disaster of that kind, if she was indeed working there it would have been all hands on deck to help out so she would have gained 'some' experience. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 3:07pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Not volunteering. Work experience which they are paid about £95 a week for. According to NHS document which I posted earlier: Clinical tasks which are appropriate for Last I checked that's good experience. And obviously after a few years she would have moved on to full placement as per her medical course:
She could not have smelled president of BMA for 20yrs if ever,it comes with experience Precisely, experience she would have had if she stayed in UK in the NHS. And there is nothing impossible under the sun. She could well have achieved it. You've still not shown me any lies she told. Do you realize they are desperately looking for good doctors in UK? As per her course she gained very good experience before graduation because as part of medical school you have hands on experience. I know people who work in NHS, you don't want to know how many people want to work there. Do you know how difficult it is to get into the NHS? So yes, she has a promising career for her to have gotten a job in NHS. And in NHS it is not difficult to advance your career. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 3:11pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Impressed my ar.se. I am in UK, I have worked for KPMG, TJX Europe, Santander UK to name a few. I have published articles and more which I hope to get published. Nothing impresses me anymore, dear. Impressed...ROTFLMAO.....you've so got to be kidding me. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 3:19pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Angyee: Not volunteering. Work experience which they are paid about £95 a week for. And bed making is medical experience Is that what you want me to respond to You have been thoroughly mesmerized by this fraud I can see I rest my case |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 3:24pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
you see your problem, you chose that which suits you to defend your stance. You chose only bedmaking...what happened to taking blood pressure, shadowing healthcare assistants, completing charts, oh it doesn't support your point so have to ignore it. *Hiss* I'm done arguing with people who have selective reading, I'm out to make a difference, you can sit here and keep tearing others down while they make their millions. Bye. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 3:41pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Angyee: Her claim from her website quoted verbatim [size=18pt] Graduated and has worked in NHS for 10 years Does that not imply that she has had 10 years of work experience since graduation from med school Go on and make your difference @ angyee Hopefully you are not embellishing your credentials and being as deceptive The masses have been informed about her and they needed to know her lack of experience and her false claims [size=28pt]I am glad all she is doing is a flying kabu kabu service ferrying patients to real hospitals with experienced hands That is all she is qualified for at this point IMHO[/size] |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Angyee(f): 3:48pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
nwando: Nope, it does not imply after graduation, that is your personal read into it as if you have lived abroad you would know that work experience here includes apprenticeships, volunteer work, internships as well as after graduation work. There is a difference between saying 10 years doctoral experience and 10 years work experience. I should know, I work in HR. Unlike in Nigeria, in UK every little experience counts as it is all about transferable skills. If she said 10 years medical experience, yes I would call her out on it. NO, she said almost 10 years in the NHS, that could be for a variety of jobs. Yes the way it is stated can be easily misconstrued that does not make her out to be a liar. Rather she needs to state it more clearly on her site. Even a position as secretary of a student union is considered experience if there are skills that apply to the post being considered for. To quote her from your quote:
She never said 10 years as a doctor. But 10 years in the health sector in different healthcare providing positions which has given her an all round experience in the health sector. Again, please where is the lie in that? 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by EkoIle1: 3:49pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Amusing how some people who cannot provide keke napep to help the sick in their villages are trying to run down this amazing young woman. It's all about hate, bitterness, anger, jealousy and low self esteem ashebe style. This is part of their DNA. To the Good doctor, carry on the great work. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 3:51pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Angyee: Ha hahahaha No wonder 419 is a signature trade of Nigerians with falsified CVs everywhere You folks have perfected the act well and can explain it well I hear u ma She doesn't eat dog meat,she only drank it's pepper soup |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 4:00pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
From her website.
A business model needed a doctor to make it complete They recruit a young inexperienced fresh graduate of a York medical school Who has a specialist "interest in trauma" Interest she says not specialist training Notice the members of "her team" Good business woman sha Nigeria is a market |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by ocheejemb: 4:00pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Gosh..Im sad for some of you. You will never achieve half of what she has done at 27 in your entire life and you are here talking rubbish and making foolish conjectures based on newspaper articles, instead on focusing on the 'good' she is doing (Although I dont know how many people would be able to afford her services). Nevertheless she is doing something great with her life thats gaining her recognition from TIME, CNN, MIT and the like, while you are here on nairaland saying rubbish. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by debosky(m): 4:31pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Madam Nwando - will you at least admit that you are wrong in claiming she doesn't hold a valid, FULL, license to practice in the UK? Yes, at first glance claiming 10 years 'working for the NHS' can be construed to mean as a qualified doctor, but once you see how old she is and when she graduated, you know it must mean something else. As for whether she could've worked 'for' the NHS (whatever that means - shebi being a volunteer personal assistant for an NHS sef is working for the NHS ). You CAN employ under 17's as volunteers in the NHS, provided they are adequately supervised: Volunteers under 16 should be regarded as vulnerable. An individual risk assessment will enable a proper judgement to be made on whether placing a young person in a voluntary role would put them, or the people they work with, at risk. The following basic principles should help with involving young people in your trust’s activities: • young people should not be left unsupervised • induction, training and supervision may have to be amended or increased for young volunteers • informed parental/guardian consent should be obtained for volunteers under 16 – this shows that the volunteer’s parent/guardian understands the role the young person will be undertaking, what it involves, when and where they will be, and consent to this The only items you have validly disputed are the alleged dates she started/graduated school, which could have arisen from journalistic errors. In any case, she has denied claiming 15, said she started at 17, which is plausible based on graduating in 2008. As for resigning a 'high-flying job' - is housemanship not a job? I'd say it's more high-flying than the security/shyte-packing/early morning cleaning jobs many of her fellow naija people do no? Too much bad belle here jare. Yes she has amplified her achievements in a way that might be misunderstood, but nothing more. Edited. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by ocheejemb: 4:33pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Angyee: Nwando, let me teach you how to verify the truth by tearing apart your claims. God bless you for this. Simple verifiable facts on the Internet. To add to what you have said: Her GMC Record Doctor Details Results of search on: 09 Apr 2013 at 16:28:27. The details shown are valid at the date and time of the search only. GMC Reference Number 7013906 Given Names Olamide Surname Orekunrin Gender Woman Status Registered with a licence to practise More Details Primary Medical Qualification MB BS 2008 The University of Hull and the University of York Provisional Registration Date 01 Aug 2008 Full Registration Date 05 Aug 2009 Specialist Register entry date This doctor is not on the Specialist Register GP Register entry date This doctor is not on the GP Register Information for Employers View information for Employers http://www.nhsemployers.org/Aboutus/Publications/Documents/Recruiting_volunteers.pdf There is NO requirement by the NHS to be of any minimum age. There is a caveat that states volunteers under 16 should be watched closely. The interested can peruse the document if they want. Nwando and co, If you understand how the NHS works, you wouldnt be saying the rubbish you are saying. Now you, NWANDO, You are a useless, bitter hater. I am very sure you havent achieved anything in your life that's why you are here spreading lies to appease your own failed ego. Feel free to prove me wrong and tell this house what you are doing with your miserable life apart from spending your time on Nairaland trolling people who do not know you exist. Your source is 'an NHS doctor'. What a foolish thing to say. Her sources are the motherfūcking GMC register, the University of Hull, the University of York, MIT, CNN, TIME, Flying Doctors Nigeria etc. They are there for you to validate and check, before coming to say rubbish on here. Lets even give your ignorant self the benefit of the doubt. Even if she didn't graduate at 21, and wasn't one of the youngest doctors in the UK, even if she hasn't worked for the NHS for 10 years and whatever other idiotic claim you posted here, she has still achieved what you can NEVER EVER achieve in your entire life. I'm not even hating on you, people with your kind of attitude never go far in life. They just sit down hating other people's success on Nairaland. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by ocheejemb: 4:38pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
debosky: Madam Nwando - will you at least admit that you are wrong in claiming she doesn't hold a valid, FULL, license to practice in the UK? Nwando is an ídiot. Every medical student is more or less guaranteed a job in the NHS. They have a shortage of Doctors atm. A housemanship pays at the very very least 22k pounds. 22k pounds for a 21/22/23 year old isnt a high flying job abi My own NHS doctor friend is earning 27k in her first year after med school. Staying in the UK, she could have gone on to earn over 100k pounds as a consultant. http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/doctors/pay-for-doctors/ |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by toluene12: 4:39pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
nwando: This guy, do you know what happens to haters? they are always embittered. Its obvious nobody here wants to read ur needless ranting refrain from this wasteful path u're treading and make something good out of your life we will celebrate u and CNN will interview u. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Any more proof that Nwando is just another PHD (Pull Her Down) candidate? @Angyee...Good job. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by GalaxyNoteII: 4:59pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
ALL THIS HATING JUST BECAUSE THE DOCTOR IS YORUBA. . . . . . . . NWANNE, DID OJUKWU FIGHT FOR YOU TO BE THIS BITTER? WE NEED MORE OF HER IN NGERIA, AND ESP IN ABIA, WHERE THE NUMBER OF INSANE SURPASSES THE SANE. BITTER BITTER OLD HAG NWANDO AT IT AGAIN. . . .EPIC FAIL 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by ocheejemb: 5:01pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
nwando: I have discussed her case before Ìdiot!!! 17 + 5 is 23 abi? Maybe you think ASUU strikes in University of York! If you jealousy hadn't clouded your failure of a mind you would have considered that an academic year is around 9 months, from day 1 in September to final exams are usually around May. Meaning as at the time she wrote her final exams (of which writing your final med school exams in the UK are more or less a formality because its a cumulative system and you have to pass every single course every single year to get to final year) she very well could have been 21. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by sleekman(m): 5:03pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Nwando anything more? Otherwise michionu Biko! Ure a stinking moth in a trash can is my final verdict. Get a life |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by GalaxyNoteII: 5:05pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Eko Ile: |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by sleekman(m): 5:08pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
If I was President I will make it a priority to criminalize tribalism just as racism is. This tribal bashing must be declared criminal urgently. Once that is done no one will come here an online forum and spill bile from their devilish, hate infested gutters they call mouths. |
Re: Nigeria's First Flying Doctor Saving Lives In Nigeria- CNN by ocheejemb: 5:08pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
nwando: I have discussed her case before Who are the foolish 'colleagues' that came to meet you for advice? They dont know where Google is to check the GMC register by themselves? I cant even imagine the kind of møron that would come to your clouded, caustic self for 'advice'? It says right there she was provisionally on the register since August, 2008 and officially in 2009 (almost 5 and 4 years respectively), so which weakness are being exploited apart ? You are not just a bitter hater you are also a delusional liar. Enemy of Progress oshi |
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