donted:

Then what is BOKO HARAM?
Boko Haram is an Islamic sect that believes politics in northern Nigeria has been seized by a group of corrupt, false Muslims. It wants to wage a war against them, and the Federal Republic of Nigeria generally, to create a “pure” Islamic state ruled by sharia law.
Since August 2011 Boko Haram has planted bombs almost weekly in public or in churches in Nigeria's northeast. The group has also broadened its targets to include setting fire to schools. In March 2012, some twelve public schools in Maiduguri were burned down during the night, and as many as 10,000 pupils were forced out of education.
Mr Governor what r u talking about?

donted:

Then what is BOKO HARAM?
Boko Haram is an Islamic sect that believes politics in northern Nigeria has been seized by a group of corrupt, false Muslims. It wants to wage a war against them, and the Federal Republic of Nigeria generally, to create a “pure” Islamic state ruled by sharia law.
Since August 2011 Boko Haram has planted bombs almost weekly in public or in churches in Nigeria's northeast. The group has also broadened its targets to include setting fire to schools. In March 2012, some twelve public schools in Maiduguri were burned down during the night, and as many as 10,000 pupils were forced out of education.
Mr Governor what r u talking about?

alexis:

Let me answer your question by asking you another question - Did the prophet Mohammed ever ordered people to be killed? Did he personally engaged in battles? Remember, we have the Hadith and Quran to fall to.

alexis:

Chaaa! Some people want to desperately associate Jesus with VIOLENCE. Hehehehe

Let me give you some Bible Study tintingz. Jesus never taught violence, never endorsed it. To prove it, when Jesus was about to be arrested, Peter drew his sword and cut of the ear of one of the priest guards. Jesus REBUKED him and healed the mans ear. That is a practical example that Jesus never supported violence.

Secondly, let me give you some education on Luke 19:27. I don't know if you know what a parable is, but let me define it for you so you can use your secular knowledge to grasp the meaning - A simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels

Read Luke 19:11-27. Jesus was talking about a parable (He was giving an illustration) - This is called the Parable of the pounds. Jesus was illustrating a king that gave money to his 10 servants, some of them invested it with returns and one of them didn't. He kept it in a cloth and told the King:

Luke 19:20-21 = Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. [21] I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow

The King replied:

Luke 19:22-23 = "His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? [23] Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'

The King continued:

Luke 19:24-27 = "Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'

[25] " 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'

[26] "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. [27] But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' "

SO BEFORE YOU CLAIM JESUS ENCOURAGED VIOLENCE, LEARN TO READ ABOVE AND BELOW THE VERSE TO GET THE THEME OF THE MESSAGE. This was an EXAMPLE OF A KING and how he reacted to a servant that was stingy. IT'S A PARABLE, AN EXAMPLE, AN ILLUSTRATION.

How do they say it in Yoruba - Do you understand - Shoti-gbo?

tintingz: mo o tigbo o

I wonder why Jesus used that as his parable

Maybe Jesus christ was all peaceful in the bible...

John 2:15
[Jesus] made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

prince of peace

tintingz:

donted must you insult before asking question? Nut-brainy read your bible well...


Matthew 10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither,and slay them before me."


Christ Jesus said it in the bible

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Very correct sir. Yes, Boko haram is never an Islamic Group!
Boko haram is a Jesus Christian Organisation!!

tintingz: ^ The prince of peace will got angry and scatter the money changer trades?

The jews never believed in Jesus(as) nor died for them...they dont even know if he was the one that was cruxified

tintingz: ^ The prince of peace will got angry and scatter the money changer trades?

The jews never believed in Jesus(as) nor died for them...they dont even know if he was the one that was cruxified

deSika: u tell a moslem his religionn advocates violence he tells u prove it
u show it to him in the quran he says its defensive
u tell him to show u how its defensive he turns table at u and say Jesus is violent too....

wetin concern boko haram violence with Jesus being violent.[their think:if Jesus had somthing to do with violence then violence in islam is justified]

lagerwhenindoubt:

Hell no!! if it were a Jesus Christian Organisation they would have jumped at Amnesty without giving it a second thought..

deSika: u tell a moslem his religionn advocates violence he tells u prove it
u show it to him in the quran he says its defensive
u tell him to show u how its defensive he turns table at u and say Jesus is violent too....

deSika:
wetin concern boko haram violence with Jesus being violent.[their think:if Jesus had somthing to do with violence then violence in islam is justified]

alexis: Are all muslims then to follow the life example of the prophet literally? The Quran teaches we should marry 4 wives but the prophet received a "special" revelation for himself only to make him exempt and married over 20? Since he is the perfect example, should every muslim do the same?

alexis:
Read my earlier post on this - You and any nation have the right to defend itself if you are attacked (irrespective of religious leaning). I have the right to defend myself if someone breaks into my home. When you go to bed at night - you lock your doors and windows - that is common defensive sense. You have the right to call in the Police when a crime is been committed and the right to defend yourself if your life is been threaten. So, the basis of defense is when you are attacked - not offensively attacking another. There is a clear difference.

alexis:

Typical Islamic tactic again, focus on your Jihadist in Northern Nigeria. If you read where Jesus told his disciples and followers to cut off people feet and toes, then you can open your mouth and talk about violence in Christianity. You are living in denial. It's the same way you claimed Mary was 12 but has never proved it

I never told you the Jews believed Jesus died for them, I said they admit/believe he was crucified - BIG DIFFERENCE. Learn to read Oga.

Tell us why Boko Haram is bombing churches, killing Christians. Why Ansaru killing foreigners in the name of your God.

Mintayo:

it seems you don't get his(alexis) point,u are so bent on attributing violence to Jesus but no matter how you try,you won't find! Just like so many of your kind,you ppl l manipulate n do so many things-these violence stuffs are explicitly written in your book!
Well,let me quote you here,'the prince of peace will get angry and scatter the money changer!' huh,imagine it was mohammed,what would he hav done? Let me tell you,he will kill all of them.(kill the infidels)

He (SAW) married only widows, apart from Aisha. You don't mention this fact

alexis:

Chaaa! Some people want to desperately associate Jesus with VIOLENCE. Hehehehe

Let me give you some Bible Study tintingz. Jesus never taught violence, never endorsed it. To prove it, when Jesus was about to be arrested, Peter drew his sword and cut of the ear of one of the priest guards. Jesus REBUKED him and healed the mans ear. That is a practical example that Jesus never supported violence.

Secondly, let me give you some education on Luke 19:27. I don't know if you know what a parable is, but let me define it for you so you can use your secular knowledge to grasp the meaning - A simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels

Read Luke 19:11-27. Jesus was talking about a parable (He was giving an illustration) - This is called the Parable of the pounds. Jesus was illustrating a king that gave money to his 10 servants, some of them invested it with returns and one of them didn't. He kept it in a cloth and told the King:

Luke 19:20-21 = Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. [21] I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow

The King replied:

Luke 19:22-23 = "His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? [23] Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'

The King continued:

Luke 19:24-27 = "Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'

[25] " 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'

[26] "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. [27] But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' "

SO BEFORE YOU CLAIM JESUS ENCOURAGED VIOLENCE, LEARN TO READ ABOVE AND BELOW THE VERSE TO GET THE THEME OF THE MESSAGE. This was an EXAMPLE OF A KING and how he reacted to a servant that was stingy. IT'S A PARABLE, AN EXAMPLE, AN ILLUSTRATION.

How do they say it in Yoruba - Do you understand - Shoti-gbo?

BetaThings:

Muslims will fight if attacked and stop when the attack stops
That is what is meant by limit
Perhaps you will show me any Christian society/country or even any society at all that has never fought back
That is why Pastor Oritsejafor (of CAN) is clamouring for the right to freely bear arms
We would not apologise for the permission to defend ourselves



Your own interpretation.
Those who live in glass houses.......
They say why are you always talking about Islam when you Christians are equally violent
We know that Christians have fought more wars than Muslims
They have ravaged more people in order to colonise and harvest their wealth than any other group on earth
For a start, remember the doctrine of discovery in the Americas
....should not throw stones

Why do we have to emulate him (SAW) precisely?
I can have an MD as a mentor but it does not mean I have an official car and driver
An exemption is an exemption

Why do you guys not get your fact rights or conceal some burden he (SAW) bore
He (SAW) did not marry 20 wives
He (SAW) married only widows, apart from Aisha. You don't mention this fact
He (SAW)had to pray at night compulsorily. I am exempted from that you guys don't mention it

I will emulate his (SAW) manner of prayer, fasting, giving voluntary and mandatory alms, hajj procedures, seeking forgiveness, paying the workman promptly before hie sweat dries, not looking down on the poor, thanking Allah etc

He married a 6 year old child and consummated the marriage with her at age 9. Should all muslim men do the same?
Some muslims argue was actually older than 9, but I am not even going into that
100 years ago in America a man could lawfully marry a 13 yr old girl. Today none of those who did are being called pae.do.phi.le
How come Mohammed (PBUH) deadly enemies never accused him of being a pa.edop.hile if he was one?
Do you know the tradition of that society
At what age did Joseph marry Mary?

Read my earlier post on this - You and any nation have the right to defend itself if you are attacked (irrespective of religious leaning). I have the right to defend myself if someone breaks into my home. When you go to bed at night - you lock your doors and windows - that is common defensive sense. You have the right to call in the Police when a crime is been committed and the right to defend yourself if your life is been threaten. So, the basis of defense is when you are attacked - not offensively attacking another. There is a clear difference.


Prove to me that the Bible permits a Christian to fight back!
And if you are so permitted, what are the rules of engagement?
And why have Christian countries mostly attacked firsts

tintingz: i will ask you again was Jesus all peaceful in the bible??

I can quote out the hatred Jesus had for the jews...all the curses and condemnation and dont forget the OT bible is full of Jehova's war victory

Oh yes the jews are still doubting if Jesus(as) was the one cruxified cuz it look silly to them to kill an innocent man... As the Quran said it was made shown to them as if he(Jesus) was killed but Jesus son of Mary(as) was not killed!!

The christian crusaders are out there you didnt condemn them... Lol MEND the new crusaders are planning to attack mosques, Killing imams...

Bros watchu saying again...?

sino:

Ha! very good, how beautiful you explained the Jesus Violent verses in the bible(mind you, there are more violent verses in the bible and yes, yes, i know its the old testament lol), it wasnt so hard was it? And you didnt feel anyway disturbed that i might not totally accept what you are saying shey? but you really want me to, cos you believe its the truth abi?

The verses were written in simple english na, how come you need to quote from other parts of the scripture to explain? How come you need to tell me a story about a king and his servant? Why in the world did you need to tell me that it was a parable?! Why can't i just take the statement as it is?

Now next time you want to post verses from the Qur'an that supports violence, you should think about your own posts about jesus preaching violence in the bible and this my post too

Before you misconstrue my submission, let me simply inform you that, those verses are commands to fight no doubt, but there is a context, there is a history, and there is a shariah(rulings) as regards to interpretation of those verses, and it would do you a lot of good if you go study a little about Islam from Muslims perhaps you start from the link posted by tintingz.

Thank you.

Vidamia: Religion bigot.........religion fanatic.........i hope all these muslim haters ain't live with muslim.........

alexis:

So, where in the Bible did Jesus order his followers to cut off the feet and those of His enemies. Stop the Crusader nonsense - it's old story. Tell us where Jesus raided Caravans, tell us how many battles He was engaged in. Until then, focus on the topic and stop going all over the place. While you are at it - tell us from the BIBLE where Mary was 9 as you CLAIMED

tintingz: Jesus hate the jews, he cursed the jews, he condemn the jews, he want the jews killed but he had little followers(as he wish the jews to be killed)..... Dont forget Jesus said the disturbing believers should cut of their hands and pluk out their eyes

Oh i thought Jesus was Jehovah in old testament or was he not??

Obiagelli: You shout about that northern elders should denounce Boko Harem , yet when they do at the risk of their lives, you guys would still insult them.