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Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Deattorney: 9:16am On Apr 23, 2013 |
vizboy: Na wa oh why these people they try tell wetin we don aready know. He get who no know say Nigeria government corruptEven 1month old baby know's wat corruption is |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Dee60: 9:18am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Billyonaire: I have been to the US many times, never have I seen Americans unpatriotic about their countries, even when corruption is prevalent in the US, there are never instances that the citizens will support foreign nations against their motherland. I regret sharing a country with so many ignorant nematodes. Americans invent the world corruption, fraud and ponzi and all nature of ills. There is corruption every where, including the US, but the magnitude of it in Nigeria is the problem. Let us not make excuses for our politicians. Too many cases of massive corruption are being buried and our judiciary has been turned into complete coma, because of politicians who are after winner takes all. In the US, a lot of people seek political positions to serve their people. here, it appears they seek positions to amass wealth for themselves. Shine your eyes, bro! It takes you possibly less than a year as a minister, a senator or a governor to become a multi-billionare! Some governors are possibly richer than their states, in less than four years. US really may not need to speak. We should be mature to know what our problems are and to address them. But the sad thing is that we have chosen to live in denial, and in Nigeria, history has not failed to repeat itself! 2 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by ikweremilitant: 9:20am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Gooogle: Of a truth, has any conviction been made since all those discoveries?all you can propaganda machines can go on spawning all sort of rumours or sentimental truth from your self rightoues factories,but one thing is certain their is noting that is hapening in this govt dat has noy hapend befor in nija especaly obj who laid d foundation for coruption in nija nd all this info did not find its way to the media becos of the killer squard.but gej does not have a killer squard so ure free to say any rubbish.go on but 2015 no vacancy in aso rock period |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Dee60: 9:21am On Apr 23, 2013 |
kingingkinging: And PhD holders are applying to take up positions as truck drivers! |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by dirifred(m): 9:22am On Apr 23, 2013 |
The obvious in this write-up is the motive. you dont give such statement without comparism from what was obtainable before hand,if the report gave comparism it will be showing GEJ in good light,thats why it carefully avoided fact like 1 the susidy scam as been on for decades no administration checked it, 2 police curruption was higher than it is today 3 looting in public office was higher in all the prevous administrations 4 the legal system is more independent now than ever before and so on all these leads me to see holes in the writeup, so i want to agree with all the nairalanders that fualt the report, its pure gabbage 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by postemail: 9:38am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Truckpusher: Coming from a Nigerian ,i wouldn't be surprised after all an average Nigerian that leaves the shores of Nigeria antagonizes the country especially with all that subtle emotional blackmail you get from your white masters and the new found freedom from wants and basic necessities of life. Look! Look around you. What has improved? The people still got no steady electricity except they power their homes themselves.. The people still got no water from the state, they drill their water. The roads are horrible, unfortunately they can't build their own roads. Believe me if they could do all by themselves they wouldn't be hoping these dumb leaders change things here. TELL US, what has changed? We still can't refine our fuel! We still can't make toothpick! We can't build roads without JB n CCECC! We still dont have good education! We still don't have good and affordable health care! We still havent got a national airline. We still dont have a welfare system to carter for the poor! We haven't curbed insecurity! We still can't halt the pollution of the Niger delta ! We have NOTHING! We are angry and we can't take It anymore! All we have is an unstable country with an ignorant in charge! 7 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by nnannamachael(m): 9:49am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Na wao 4 dis country,allow d man to rule na,as imune cover him,later we go d truth,pls |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Orikinla(m): 10:10am On Apr 23, 2013 |
dayokanu: Anyone that expected anything better from Retardeen given his antecedents is not being realistic Dayokanu, remember how they castigated and attacked us when we warned members of Nairaland not to support and vote for him. Now this is their predicament. 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by dbilz(m): 10:19am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Imagine d fool still saying d whole issue was exagerated .when 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Orikinla(m): 10:22am On Apr 23, 2013 |
If you visit Bayelsa State, you will not be surprised by the present failures of the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan, because if you see Bayelsa State, it looks like Biafra during the Nigerian civil war. 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Nobody: 10:25am On Apr 23, 2013 |
I rarely like to comment on political threads for my personal reasons, but here's my take on Fathai's comment: Yes, Nigeria has a problem with corruption and it is the RESPONSIBILITY of every Nigerian and the govt to solve this problem. We do not need a saintly sermon from US before we know we need to get to work to solve the problem of corruption. After all the US is not immune from corruption. Who has been preaching to the US on the need to stop immoralities like gay marriages and homosexuality? Yes the US is not immune to corruption, they've never said they were! Have you ever heard this statement "The borrower is subject to the lender"?. Nigeria has a problem with corruption, you said that yourself, after 40yrs+ of gross corruption, Individuals (Nigerians and NON-Nigerians), Organizations(Local and International (NGOs)), Countries (Including the US) have deemed it fit to help us with our focus/direction. Why not? The Nigerian Government is obviously confused! The US, other Nations, Individuals and entities have a right to free speech and their opinions, anyone asking them to keep quite is acting like a bully just like boko haram. Even if the target of completely eradicating illegal police check points have not been achieved, PROGRESS has been made Who said progress has not been achieved, its just that it remains rampant! Can someone who was dismissed be said to have gone "unpunished"? Mr Fathai, that is gross under punishment for the magnitude of the offence, he should be tried and imprisoned for aiding and abetting terrorism, aiding and abetting a wanted felon and treasonable felony. It was unfortunate that Ibori was acquitted by a Nigeria court but that happened under previous regime. Again, the Judiciary is a SEPARATE arm of govt. Fortunately, the new Chief Justice of the Federation is taking steps to curb the impunity in the Judiciary. Recently, 3 Justices were sacked. So if a crime is committed before a government takes office, that crime should be pardoned, forgiven or ignored? please let me know o, so I'll look for a way to steel N1 Billion just before the 2015 presidential election!!! Also the 3 Justices were not sacked, they were retired and there's a big difference in both. For the sake of those who may not know, they were retired meaning they'll keep all their benefits such as security, pension, social/political recognition, official cars etc unlike if they were sacked, they would loose all these benefits. By the way, you made it look like the Judiciary is not a part of the government which my very own Chief Ebele is the head of! The executive has done its part by bringing the suspected subsidy thieves to court. The rest is for the JUDICIARY. LOL Correct me if am wrong, are you a member of PDP, I guess I should have asked that before replying you sef. Its good you didn't say anything about Mr Bankole and his right hand man, Anyway, make una dey chop dey go, one dey na one day! 2 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by davesndy: 10:37am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: Another BASELESS report from the US. The fact that the west has suddenly become very critical of the federal govt should raise the suspicion of every patriotic Nigerian. The US have been firing from all cylinders of recent. What are they up to? Does the US mean well for Nigeria? Is this all about the PIB and oil multinationals?God bless you sir! We r not in denial of our shortcomings but my qstn is why is the US aware of our problems all of a sudden? Why is evrytin gooin wrng all of a sudden? Could it be as a result of Nigeria leading other African countries towards China? Ppl pls tink nd dnt just let any report make u start shouting 2015 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by otunba9ja: 10:37am On Apr 23, 2013 |
franchizy: I condemn dis report cos there is no Iota of truth in it. GEJ Administration is the most transparent and the best Nigeria ever had. i dey gbadun you jor.....as far as ur own 3 square meal dey kampe...and u re always smilling 2 d bank...weytin concern u with the man wey never pay him pikin school fees, or d woman wey owe hospital bills or the old man wey dey hawk plantain chips for go-slow.......bros carry go....u re only spending out of your eternal rest |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Akainzo(m): 10:42am On Apr 23, 2013 |
dirifred: The obvious in this write-up is the motive. you dont give such statement without comparism from what was obtainable before hand,if the report gave comparism it will be showing GEJ in good light,thats why it carefully avoided fact like I am not sure where you got the things you are using as your basis, but let me clarify a little for you: 1. Fuel Subsidy: The highest subsidy payment during OBJ was N250B, Yar'Adua: N320B then Goodluck N1,272B; Tell me how this data supports your claim. 2. Police Corruption: Do show me which indices indicate that police corruption is on the decrease! In your village, or along your village roads? 3. Public Office Corruption: Things have never been this baaad! Mehn, it is so bad that it is now even done openly and even with a sense of deja vu. For comparison the NA earnings is on the increase, constituency project allowance has been jacked up, Oil bunkering is at its highest, some are getting paid 4 times a corpers earnings as militants. Does this show reduction in official corruption? 4. Independence of the Judiciary: The judiciary has remained where it has always being except I can cite instances of GEJ manipulation, Ayo Salami's case comes to mind. In fact, the NJC has only become more politicised under GEJ than any other government. So my friend, when you spew forth things, do ensure that the facts and realities are there to back them up. 4 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by adoniza(m): 10:52am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Not sure if I should comment |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by ReiManniE(m): 11:01am On Apr 23, 2013 |
I hug transformer I still remain alive... Nways, each day we all have prayed, yelled unto God for a better leader, fresh air they say he is 'GEJ' buh dis guy is clueless, got no leadership traits in him..Even our children still fed its chick GEJ even tho I'm from the south-south he has proven to b the worst nightmare of my generation, I bleeds in my heart cos himself and d so called adviser Abati claimed the report is faulty or nt true. EEfcc has apprehend abt or above 200 pple associated with the scam, where in heavens name is d news, what was d justice on them, where they ever charged to court. Karma I bliv myt take longer time to come buh surely when it rains u shall be grounded for ya sins |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by bigcycs: 11:12am On Apr 23, 2013 |
Arguments for and against as is to be expected from any topic on sensitive issues.(Even some of the worlds worst leaders ever still had their army of apologists/loyalist) One does not need to give a hoot about the US to appreciate the content of their report. Again the fact that the US is also bedevilled by the ills they criticise nigeria about is immaterial in this circumstance also the suspected interest(or lack of it) of the US which some commenters have attributed as the basis for this damning report should not take front seat in preference to the need to discuss pertinent ISSUES as raised therein is the report stating the truth or did it lie blatantly? To me it restated a long known fact. People take pains to enlist a lytanny of achievements of the present FG. why they feel nigerians need to be told about govt interventions on a forum I don't know. the vast majority of nigerians without access to IT facilities will not read it hence their only attestation to govt progress will always be what they can see happen around them and not what some "patriot" posts on nairaland. I,A nigerian, still haven't seen light in my house for days(still comes once in a while and goes as in the past) I a petroleum engineering graduate cannot still get a job in spite of the many interviews I have attended and many certification skills as I have been able to afford.(I still need to be "connected" to fix that) Hoodlums invaded my family business situated in our village and on complaining to the police we had to "mobilise" them to act and even then they didn't. I won't bother with the issue of corruption..as everyone knows how endemic that is. I do not hate GEJ(dont love him either) and I do not think he is clueless as adjudged. I believe this govt is about maintaining a status quo, one which ensures a minority continue to control wealth at the expense of a majorly poor and struggling population. If there was a sincere fight against corruption a sincere FG should have set up fast track courts with time frames for cases and major convictions should have happened simple!! Not arguments and counter arguments. By 2015 i am sure many more nigerians will be totally convinced of the ineptitude and ineffectiveness of this present govt. yet again that still won't guarantee that they will vote wisely. juxtapose the enormous resources that accrue to this nation with the heavily publicised "achievements" on ground and well its not hard to conclude that the FG has again fallen far far short. (They even had to print a several paged document to show you what they have achieved and in it contained "purchase of 2 number toyota hiace buses" !!!) Why must our development be "paper" or "internet" based. why must people sit in their offices and tell us that our economy is growing by 7% and yet you go out and reality slaps you in the face. I realise it won't take "a day" to fix nigeria but if someone tells me FG has completed power projects,I had better see light in my house(There are a million more why's where those came from) I wonder what it will take for nigerians to understand that they are still poorly governed and deserve better? 6 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by coputa(m): 11:33am On Apr 23, 2013 |
@nagoma..what do you mean by he(jonathan)accepts corruption..,your post is laced with ignorance..dont you knw how the system runs..with different arms and organs of government headed by and run by moles sponsored by traitors in the system..my ignorant friend,there is nothing jonathan can do in these circumstances. |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Telthetruth(m): 11:55am On Apr 23, 2013 |
He said contrary to the picture the report painted, the present administration has remained the most transparent government since the return of democracy to Nigeria. transparent indeed! just deceiving their selves
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Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Localtrouble: 12:07pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Billyonaire: When did America become a watchdog to sound convictions against other countries ? I think US should focus on their failing economy and home grown terrorism. US is over 300 yrs old as a country of immigrants, I can remember vividly that America was not as advanced as Nigeria is when they celebrated their 60yrs Independence from Britain.Exactly..as if they are any better. They have a way of pulling down thriving economies/countries with their foolish researches and reports, knowing some stray dogs would always agree with the rubbish they have to publish. They should STFU and concerntrate on the degeneate state of their nation before spewing rubbish. Kids with no respect etc |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by ddeola: 12:07pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
That is d America they are trying to impress with lies and several CNN interviews. I tell una say ds pple no d truth na dem no no 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by ocelot2006(m): 12:37pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Billyonaire: I have been to the US many times, never have I seen Americans unpatriotic about their countries, even when corruption is prevalent in the US, there are never instances that the citizens will support foreign nations against their motherland. I regret sharing a country with so many ignorant nematodes. Americans invent the world corruption, fraud and ponzi and all nature of ills. Don't forget "lobbying", and kickbacks. |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Localtrouble: 12:57pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
*idriis*: It takes one bastard to know another, Egbere!! So what you're trying to tell me is the prices if things should never increase? Biko crawl back into the rock from whence thou camest!! The Americans who some of you support are having serious economic crises and hiding it under it under all kinds of vices. They have are good way of covering up the shiit like cats, it is the same Glorified America madoff was scaming people..where were the so called fincial dogs IRS when it was all going? If his son didn't report him, what would have happened..and who knows how many more Madoffs they have in the US, some of these devils have Large investments in Africa and are making the Forbes list of most influential people in the world(influential my big bum bum). Thank goodness for countries like IRAN, CHINA, RUSSIA etc that are calling their bluff of late . The government of the day isn't stable, YES! We have corruption in the system, YES!(Which country doesn't) But who died and made the US judge over Nigeria? Who play politics pass the Westerners? They put their stooges in World positions to cover their tracks. Rubbish!! Their plan to distabilize Syria isn't working, they are seriously looking for another project..poor nation using sense and cunny to survive! |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by senbonzakurakageyoshi(m): 1:16pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Localtrouble: Oh shut the f*** up! Like any relative of any Nigerian thieving politician would even consider ratting them out. Isn't it our politicians children we see everyday living it up in the upper east side of New York, throwing lavish parties in some of the most expensive clubs in London and coming back to naija to rub the ill gotten wealth of their parents in the faces of their mates whose parents don't have and can't even dream of that kind of money. Since when did America claim to be saints anyway? Isn't it you same Nigerians that continually criticize other countries and consider places like Iraq and Iran as "bomb lands" and you think its the truth. Yet when someone else tells you that your country is corrupt (which is also patently true) you're all up in arms. There is corruption in the US but it is obviously not as patently obvious and open as it is in Nigeria. At least, corrupt officials in the US try to cover their tracks and don't go about buying up everything they lay their eyes on. At least, we don't hear of American politicians jetting off to Germany each time they have a headache. At least American politicians don't go about boasting about how they "personally placed" someone in office. Say what you will about America and Americans, but they've got it going better for them than we do for ourselves. Which is made obvious by the fact that your people queue everyday at the Visa offices where they act all subservient to everyone including the security men all in a bid to get a visa to same said America. You guys say all America has are its own interests....that is the way things should be! Each country should have it's interests and the interests of its citizens as first and only priority! Please tell me whose interests the Nigerian governemnt is protecting....cos i sure as heck know it ain't that of the Nigerian people. 4 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Rossikk(m): 1:39pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
born7win: You're so daft it's unbelievable. ''Talking down America'' indeed! So if you ''talk down Nigeria'', as I'm sure you're expert at, does that mean you refuse to quote Achebe or Soyinka, or even Sunday Adewusi of Punch Newspaper? To mention America's shortcomings and her leaders' hypocrisy is not synonymous with 'hating Americans' as your tiny brain seems to imagine. As for the west's inventions, Well, without PRIOR AFRICAN inventions and innovations including mathematics, writing, language, medicine, philosophy, law, architecture, administration, bureaucracy, cities, metallurgy, astronomy, religion, etc etc, there would be NO latter-day ''western inventions'' to enjoy. If you know your African history (which you don't) you will know that the above-listed are all African innovations, achieved when westerners were still running around in caves, grunting in bearskin. In fact the west is the LAST ON THE LIST of contributors, and have built on the thousands of years of innovations by African and Asian populations, who thrived for thousands of years before there was ANY western state. SO YOU SEE, WE ALL CONTRIBUTED TO MODERN CIVILIZATION. EVERY RACE ON EARTH CONTRIBUTED. SO STOP THINKING LIKE YOU OWE THE WEST SERVITUDE, GRATITUDE AND CONSTANT ADMIRATION. YOU DON'T. FEEL FREE TO CRITICIZE AND UNCRITICIZE ANYBODY AND ANY PEOPLE. ALL RACES ARE EQUAL. ''Black man know yourself... Be confident... Our ancestors civilized this world..'' - FEMI KUTI 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by senbonzakurakageyoshi(m): 1:57pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Rossikk: Dude, you might want to stop living on past, ancient glory. Even arsenal fans (no offence) have moved on from 2005, you should move on from the BCs. Same Americans are STILL inventing and innovating new things that your modern day Africans are falling over themselves to get. I am sure that the phone/computer/internet tablet you're using to post all this weren't made in Africa...not even put together from its constituent parts in Africa. The biggest problem a man can have is closing his eyes to his onn problems while opening his eyes to criticize his more succesful neighbour. Our ancestors civilized this world....awesome....how civilized are we, their descendants? 2 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Rossikk(m): 2:03pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
senbonzakura_kageyoshi: SORRY MR. Humanity's successes cannot be restricted to JUST TODAY. WE WILL NOT FORGET THAT WE CIVILIZED THIS WORLD, and start playing HAPPY SLAVE to any rubbish emanating from the west, out of 'gratitude' for what the west accomplished OFF OF OUR SWEAT AND INNOVATION. NO. NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS. AS AFRICANS, we will WALK WITH PRIDE, AND HEADS HELD UP, as we move FORWARD to regain our STATUS as the world's most prolific INNOVATORS. Today, Africa is the fastest growing region on earth economically. WE ARE HEADING BACK UP, AND WE DO SO, NOT AS MENTAL SLAVES, BUT AS FREE, CONFIDENT POPULATIONS WHO KNOW THEIR WORTH, AND THEIR IMMENSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS PLANET. THANKS. 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Promolysis(m): 2:20pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Rossikk: No we're not. We're talking about criminals in America pretending to be saints.no single like for ur comment. Shame on u, Jonathan and insincere9jarian 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Rossikk(m): 2:21pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
^^^Some of us are here to educate dullards like you, not to win popularity contests. 2 Likes |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Promolysis(m): 2:21pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Rossikk: No we're not. We're talking about criminals in America pretending to be saints.no single like for ur comment. Shame on you, Jonathan and insincere9jarian |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by Rossikk(m): 2:24pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
^^^Some of us are here to educate dullards like you, not to win popularity contests. 1 Like |
Re: Corruption Is Massive Under Jonathan – US by karlmax2: 3:40pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
The punch and the A.C.N goons on nairaland think that all Nigerians are stupid and brainwashed like them. The article states that the MASSIVE, WIDESPREAD AND PERVASIVE CORRUPTION AFFECTED ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT and we all know what they mean by ALL LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT except you are a brainwashed A.C.N tinubu azzlicker . Lemme remind the goons that it means THE FEDERAL, STATE , AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. So this is also an indictment on the 419 progressive .ACN which controls 5 STATE and lots of local government they are also indicted in this report . For punch to come up with this headline simply shows how deceitful they are. only the unintelligent and brainwashed ACN e cockroaches would be brainwashed by punch and their ACN propaganda .this is an indictment of all politicians in Nigeria including SAINT FASHOLE 1 Like |
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