Fhemmmy:

You have already indicated which side you are on, So how do you expect people to give you answers without bias?

manny4life:

I was about to quote that now when I saw yours,

He has already made up his mind yet asking questions, like I often say and will continue to say,

2 Timothy 2:23 "Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."

bolaino: so how do we know the instances where killed means making some one irrelevant in the bible? Give us examples.

bolaino: It's a question that should be answered with utmost sincerity, with all honesty and with no religious bias (but I doubt my christian folks will be able to do that).

But let's examine the death of jesus, christians from time immemorial have given us the illusion that it was the greatest and noblest thing any man or God could have done for his people, by paying the ultimate price, ( giving up his life),

But I chose to disagree, in the case of jesus, he is said to be God, and he created all things, having this knowledge how would coming to earth and dying and going back to splendor a big deal? I know of people who have gone through a lot worse for no reward at all, not to talk about jesus, who is supposed to be the beginning and the end, this should have been like a walk in the park for him.

But it was'nt, even knowing fully well that he was going to rise up again and be praised in heaven and on earth for all eternity, he was still scared, begging himself in heaven not to allow the whole thing happen.

Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners.

manny4life:

My own understanding of the Bible, GOD NEVER CREATED EVIL. Yall should get it straight.

manny4life:

My own understanding of the Bible, GOD NEVER CREATED EVIL. Yall should get it straight.

mitchyy: For those who don't know, Jesus sacrificed his human life. Yes, his perfect body was tortured and killed. But he was resurrected, remember not as a human anymore but as a heavenly creature. The word sacrifice should make you understand that its something you lose, something that is gone. Jesus perfect human body is gone because of the love he had for us! Yes! And i thank him everybody for that because if dey ask una to do the same thing una go run!

ninja4life: Pls my fellow christians help an ignorant brother with dis question :wat is d difference btw God and satan cos dey seem related and interchangeable.lol tanks

booqee: Yes..it is dat big a deal. Not many pple would surrender and humble themselves to be nailed to a cross, and die to save the souls of a billion people.

bolaino: well in the bible, Isaiah 45 v 7, the biblical God is heard saying that he created evil, read it up and see for urself,

obadiah777: ISAIAH 45 VS 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

dulphines:

Please, to start with it is Jesus not jesus. If you are not a Christain or have belief in Christainity, why don't you keep mute rather than write all these are incure the wrath of God. May God forgive you your sins, wash away your inequities and bring you to life everlasting through Jesus Christ our Lord, amen.

damosky12:

look friend. Jesus was not a man, He was 'God Himself' who came in form of a man(John 1:1), He carried the life spirit of God because He was born of that spirit and not a man's spermatozua; that is why He was called Emmanuel meaning God (himself) with us (in form of man). He wasnt born of any man (remember it was the the the prencense of God who over shadowed a holy virgin to bear Him), so he was not a normal being neither was he a sinner genetically because he wasnt born by a man's sperm remember, man is a sinner by nature of Adam. Jesus was not a product of Adam!! HE WAS HOLY IN NATURE AND IN DEED. HE NEVER SINNED AND WAS'NT BORN A SINNER LIKE ALL MEN!! The reason why the sacrifice is esteemed is because of.

1)God's love for man for Jesus to die in the place of sinfull sinners when He himself never sinned. (1Corinth 5:21)

2)He himself was the creator of men. Bible says "...and without Him was not anything made that was made"-JOHN 1:3. He was the one who could die to bear the sins of all men because he made them and remember He could have chosen not to die and kill all men, creating a new set of Men. He chose not "for God SO LOVED the world" this world.


3) A man who hated sin was made to carry it in bulk upon himself, that was why He was praying to God. He wasnt afraid of the death but never wanted to be a sinner for once because He had to carry the sins of the whole world (alive, dead and unborn) upon himself even though He never sinned!

bolaino: It's a question that should be answered with utmost sincerity, with all honesty and with no religious bias (but I doubt my christian folks will be able to do that).

But let's examine the death of jesus, christians from time immemorial have given us the illusion that it was the greatest and noblest thing any man or God could have done for his people, by paying the ultimate price, ( giving up his life),

But I chose to disagree, in the case of jesus, he is said to be God, and he created all things, having this knowledge how would coming to earth and dying and going back to splendor a big deal? I know of people who have gone through a lot worse for no reward at all, not to talk about jesus, who is supposed to be the beginning and the end, this should have been like a walk in the park for him.

But it was'nt, even knowing fully well that he was going to rise up again and be praised in heaven and on earth for all eternity, he was still scared, begging himself in heaven not to allow the whole thing happen.

Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners.

musKeeto: The real sacrifice was not in his death... But the shame.. a god becoming a man and subjecting himself to the torments that exist in this evil world..

At least, that's what the apologetics would have us believe....

Lol.. You believe someone who could walk on water, raise the dead, heal the sick.. Got killed by 3 nails... Lmao... Even 50 cent survived 9 bullets..

manny4life:

If you like, TWIST and TURN IT, GOD NEVER CREATED EVIL. Evil has long manifested when Lucifer was cast down with his demonic/fallen angels, however, since God created ALL HEAVENS and Earth and therein lies the evil, so GOD has dominion, control, over them.

bolaino: u people with talk about the wrath of God and dis and dat, why has'nt the wrath of God fallen on all the evil leaders in this country who are making christian Nigerians go tru hell, or why has'nt the wrath of God fallen on the many voodoo pastors who perform miracles in the name of ur God, he should take care of the meSsed up situations he created before visiting his wrath on me, lol

obadiah777: YOU SOUND CRAZY.