Valto: the pastor knows the customs and traditional of where he reside, yet he went ahead and kill a python in idemili soil...he should face the music.. shikena!!

udemzy_udex:
LOL.....NIGERIA WILL NEVER BE A GOOD PLACE IF WE DON'T CHANGE OUR MINDSET..


SUPERSTITION IS PART OF THE NEGATIVE MINDSET WE MUST CHANGE TO MK NIGERIA A BETTER PLACE...

Hearme: I dont think any right thinking nairalander should argue with SE people again
on this forum. It just tells us the kind of people that have been posting messages.

o'boy:
simple,idemili is in anambra state and not in Akwa ibom or cross river and we dont kill it because we are not akwa ibom or cross riverians,i hope that answers your Question
ignorance should not be an excuse for breaking our traditions nwanne,your people are really gentle o,if it were in Obosi,they will force him to buy casket for the burial

hbrednic: i wonder if they've got animal rights group in Nigeria,
that pastor is supposed to be in jail.

ifyalways: Over zealous religious fanatics.I hope they roast his arse.
How would he and his fold react if his bible is pissed on?
Did Jesus convert anyone by shitting on his/her sacred stuff?v

gbosaa:




Me too...my grandfather actually brought one huge eke idemili to tie round my waist when i was four..guess what..the snake saw the royal anaconda b/w my legs and ran for its life..it must have recalled the incident at pharoah palace with moses staff..

Pls if you are still bedwetting,hola at me..i,ll tie mine around your waist or plug the bedwetting orifice with my idemili...your grandmum will be proud of me..

jayriginal: I have a personal experience of this kind of matter. I served in Anambra State so I am familiar with the consequences of killing an Eke. After the school I lived in was a thick bush and then a dibias home.

Now, right from camp, we were warned not to kill snakes. We were told that if we suddenly come into our rooms and see a snake on our beds or pillows, we were to carry it by hand and throw it into the bush. If we were afraid, we were to call an indigene who would remove it for us. If we were brave enough, we could sleep with it still on our pillow.

We were assured that the snake was harmless and would not attack. We were told that if we killed the snake, we would have to bury it like a titled man. It was taboo to kill eke.

All the while, goose pimples were sprouting from the girls and cries of "blood of Jesus" rent the air. We were even told of notorious communities were we had to be extra careful in case we were posted there. For the avoidance of doubt, Eke is the royal python.

Some months into my service, on our way to the tap, one of the lady corpers spotted a snake which quickly squeezed itself into a locked garage. Peeping through the cracks, we saw this thick snake chilling. We began to speculate because when we heard python, we expected something really big. I remember as a child my grand mother would tell me how pythons use palm trees to measure length. This wasnt as long as a palm tree but it was no ordinary snake. It was long and fat. Thick!
We couldnt get at it so we let it be while we wondered how long it had been living with us and what it had been eating. Then we saw the school gardener and brought him to the garage. As we told him about the snake, the first thing he asked was "na Eke?". We said we didnt know because we had only heard but we had never seen one. He looked into the garage but by then the snake had hidden itself. Then Mazi (that was what we called him) said very clearly "if na Eke, kill am and cook am. If una no go chop give me, I go chop". We asked him if it wasnt taboo to kill Eke, but he shrugged it off.

Later my friend and I went outside the compound to buy some stuff and we asked the man selling stuff if Eke could be killed as we were told otherwise in camp. He said that it was old tradition and it doesnt hold anymore. He said people kill and eat Eke (though he didnt volunteer to eat it if we killed it).

Its important to note that these were all indigenes resident in the area.

My friend and I went back to the school fortified in the knowledge that if we see the Eke, we could kill it. We didnt see it that day, or the next, or the next . . .

Sometime later (weeks after), at about 9pm, the remaining female corper in our lodge (the other had passed out) came running "Gudugudu, Barri Wonder, something is making noise near my room". We went to check it out (we had no electricity) and our torch showed a snake struggling under a barrier. Its a bit hard to describe. I will just say that the snake tried to crawl underneath a fence like thing and got stuck. Its head and neck went through but the body couldnt pass. It could neither go forward nor retreat so it was thrashing about and making a racket.

Quickly we ran to our secretarys house to borrow cutlasses. As soon as she heard "snake" she was so frightened. She gave us the tools and locked up after us. We went to the snake and hacked it until it stopped thrashing. For good measure, I doused it with kerosene but didnt set fire since most of its body was out of our reach. By climbing over the wall, we could see the other part of its body but we couldnt reach it.

In short, we dealt mortal blows on the reptile. There was blood everywhere and we left it for dead.

In the morning, we went to the spot and there was no snake. Just blood. So we climbed over the wall and looked and there the snake was. The snake we left for dead astonishingly wasnt dead when we thought it was. By morning it was dead though. What happened was that the snakes head was flattened by the blows we dealt it and so in its throes, it was able to retreat finally. Imagine our shock when we looked in the daylight and found out that it was the very same snake we had seen some weeks earlier.
Without being told, we knew it was Eke!

We went to return out tools to the secretary. She asked if we killed the snake and we said yes. Only then for the first time did she ask if it was Eke. We looked at ourselves and said "no". Then she became boastful. This same woman who almost ran up the wall into her ceiling the previous night told us that if it was Eke, we ought to have called her and she would drive it away. Then she started telling us how Eke used to eat her eggs and she kept warning it. It got to the point that one day, she flogged it with a cane and told it that if it came to eat her eggs next time, she would kill it. According to her, Eke never bothered her again.

After her lengthy narrative, she took Kolanuts and threw them around our lodge and asked us to remove some wood and zinc as these were hiding places for snakes.
When school started that same morning, we went and reported ourselves to the acting Principal.

The man was befuddled. He asked "did you kerosene it" and we said yes. He was downcast. He started thinking aloud. He said "what was Eke looking for in the lodge? Is Eke not supposed to know that you are strangers. Eke dont suppose to come here". Then he said he wished he could have been there so he would remove it with his hands and throw outside the compound adding that a five year old child could have carried the Eke away. Then he tapped his head (like papa Ajasco) and muttered to himself. He was in a severe dilemma. He wanted to retrieve the body of the snake but he feared sending a student to do it lest that student be seen by other students and then the gist gets to the community and then his corpers are in hot soup. Then it seems he fancied his chances of defending us against the community because he kept telling himself that he was a first class citizen of the community.

He also told us of a nearby community, some church school or something, how Eke was found in the girls bathroom. He told us that Eke would never attack a stranger or an indigene but that if Eke sees and Abakaliki man, Eke will attack him. The reason he said was because Abakaliki men kill and eat Eke.
We then told him that Mazi and the man that sells things outside the school told us to kill the Eke that the tradition no longer held. He was disgusted and said that they said that because they were christians. Then, he told us that if Eke is crossing the road, cars stop to let it pass.

In the end, he asked us to keep the matter quiet. The snake was left there in the enclosure next to ours and because of the size of the snake, its decomposition kept the air in the lodge foul for the better part of two weeks.

I have not embellished neither have I exaggerated.

My take is that there is nothing special about the Eke. Nobody knew we killed Eke except the principal to whom we reported ourselves. The reason Eke is "harmless" is because nobody attacks it. If you raise a chicken from a chick, if no one attacks it, it will not fear humans. Ive seen chickens like that. They walk up to you and are not moved if you shoo them. No one attacks Eke in the community so it has no need to defend itself.
I dont believe that Abakaliki crap as a snake has no means of knowing who is from where.

Now if the Pastor was an indigene of the place, he could have been more discreet, but he probably taunted the indigenes with the death of the snake. It kind of reminds someone of Benson Idahosa destroying idols in Benin City.
He did what he did because of his religion. Its not everyone that reacts kindly to snakes so I can understand his killing it, particularly as the bible talks about crushing snakes with the heel of the foot. He shouldnt however have waved his "sacrilege in their faces" as I feel he must have done.

baby_mama:

Nice story and I agree with your conclusions
The pastor should have quietly buried the snake

Okiki_Oluwa: I think Killing of the snake was to save his children. But here's a community that forbids snake killing under any circumstance. I rest my case.
A good Christian ll not react violently. If anyone like, he/she may take the Bible & use it to wrap akara, no man must bring out a dagger. Get that!

jayriginal: The reason Eke is "harmless" is because nobody attacks it. No one attacks Eke in the community so it has no need to defend itself.

jayriginal: I dont believe that Abakaliki crap as a snake has no means of knowing who is from where.

chrisxxx: I can only support the pastor's action on the assumption that he did not know that killing such snake was a taboo. And the proximity of the snake to his children was a health and safety threat. If that had been done deliberately he has gone contrary to his Bible's and The Bible's teachings.
Did he ever care to ask why Jesus instead of killing the legion of demons hearken to their pleas of being sent to invade the swine?
Did he ever ask why Jesus said Caesar should receive tax?
Did he ever try to know why there was Baal-Jesus even while Jesus was on earth?
Did he ever try to know why God has allowed Satan and his cohorts to exist till this period and still existing?
Let him answer the above questions amongst others.
Don't call me a pagan, I am a Christian just that I understand the Bible better even than some pastors.

PAGAN 9JA:
i hope they kill him. if he did such a thing in my neighbourhood, we would have roasted his on a spit. ugly b.astard what did the harmless poisonless snake do to him. why does he have to offend our religion?


Also how did the other villagers find out that he killed the snake Either the Gods informed the other villagers that an innocent animal was murdered, or the idi.ot of a pastor went around boasting to the entire village that he murdered the representative of the Serpent spirit, in order to instigate the Pagans of the village.

Idemilli pythons are FAMOUS to be harmless. that snake might have just come to play with the kids. little did the poor creature know that it is entering the house of a savage cruel madman, unlike the other kind neighbours who let it in.

Let us not forget that this savage man is an indigene of the area and that e knows these snakes are harmless to kids. Probably before he converted to man-worship, he too used to play with Eke snakes as a child.

I hope he faces the wrath of the forest spirits.


[size=16pt]HAS ANYONE WONDERED WHY IS IT THAT ONLY A "CHRISTIAN PASTOR" IS FOUND KILLING OF SNAKES?!!! BECAUSE HE JUST WANTS TO PROVOKE AND INSULT THE INDIGNES AND THEIR CULTURAL BELIEFS AND RELIGION, JUST LIKE HIS COLONIAL MASTERS![/size]


be good unto animals and they will be good unto you. .

Tabawababy:
May Allah safe you daniska kawai.

emyrald91:
can't believe some1 tot these out. D pastor didnt do wel by kilin d snake? Nw lets analyz dis: y didnt d snake as 'god' knw dt d hauz it entered belongs to a pastor? It it were not harmful, y were d kids shouting? Even if d pastor worshipd d snake, so wt? Dts d reason 4 conversion n repentance. 'i getam b4 no be property'. Y cant ur pple wait 4 ur snake god 2 aveng its death? Are u d 1 to protect ur god or shuld ur god protect u?

legendprac:

I agree with u.... Meanwhile, am disappointed wit d so called christians on NL defending dis stupid tradition.....

I am from Umuoji community, in fact I K№ω when this thing happened cuz it was reported to someone I K№ω to help fight for the MOG.

That tradition is stupid, I will kill any eke that comes into my house(have already killed a handful dat ventured into my compound,abi I for leave am invite am to dinner?)..... They say it doesn't bite, but I don't want to wait around to find out and even if it doesn't, I kill tins like cockroach because it creeps me out and here we r talking abt a python.....

Do u guys expect a man to watch a python near his kids without doing anytin?
D only mistake d man did was not being discreet abt it, knowing that he isn't an indigene of Umuoji...but that isn't the reason why my town ppl should be acting like we r in the stone age...

And ℓ☺ℓ to 'if he doesn't appease the gods, sth will happen to his family'..... If na true, d gods for don finish me since.ℓ☺ℓ .. Let the umudibias of umuoji let there god fight for itself....

gbosaa:



What kind of safe are you talking about..

Who is Daniska Kawai..is that your real name?..

Btw...do you bedwet?..i think you might need my eke idemili in the future.

Hola at me when you get your VVF..you,ll need it around your waist to treat your leakages.

maureen44:
You are a big fool. That man should be barnished from umuoji, mmiri manuru oku.

sushieater:
oji kwenu! Which villa man? ..i rep umuoli

legendprac:

Am frm Aguma village

PAGAN 9JA:
i hope they kill him. if he did such a thing in my neighbourhood, we would have roasted his on a spit. ugly b.astard what did the harmless poisonless snake do to him. why does he have to offend our religion?


Also how did the other villagers find out that he killed the snake Either the Gods informed the other villagers that an innocent animal was murdered, or the idi.ot of a pastor went around boasting to the entire village that he murdered the representative of the Serpent spirit, in order to instigate the Pagans of the village.

Idemilli pythons are FAMOUS to be harmless. that snake might have just come to play with the kids. little did the poor creature know that it is entering the house of a savage cruel madman, unlike the other kind neighbours who let it in.

Let us not forget that this savage man is an indigene of the area and that e knows these snakes are harmless to kids. Probably before he converted to man-worship, he too used to play with Eke snakes as a child.

I hope he faces the wrath of the forest spirits.


[size=16pt]HAS ANYONE WONDERED WHY IS IT THAT ONLY A "CHRISTIAN PASTOR" IS FOUND KILLING OF SNAKES?!!! BECAUSE HE JUST WANTS TO PROVOKE AND INSULT THE INDIGNES AND THEIR CULTURAL BELIEFS AND RELIGION, JUST LIKE HIS COLONIAL MASTERS![/size]


be good unto animals and they will be good unto you. .

PAGAN 9JA:
i hope they kill him. if he did such a thing in my neighbourhood, we would have roasted his on a spit. ugly b.astard what did the harmless poisonless snake do to him. why does he have to offend our religion?


Also how did the other villagers find out that he killed the snake Either the Gods informed the other villagers that an innocent animal was murdered, or the idi.ot of a pastor went around boasting to the entire village that he murdered the representative of the Serpent spirit, in order to instigate the Pagans of the village.

Idemilli pythons are FAMOUS to be harmless. that snake might have just come to play with the kids. little did the poor creature know that it is entering the house of a savage cruel madman, unlike the other kind neighbours who let it in.

Let us not forget that this savage man is an indigene of the area and that e knows these snakes are harmless to kids. Probably before he converted to man-worship, he too used to play with Eke snakes as a child.

I hope he faces the wrath of the forest spirits.


[size=16pt]HAS ANYONE WONDERED WHY IS IT THAT ONLY A "CHRISTIAN PASTOR" IS FOUND KILLING OF SNAKES?!!! BECAUSE HE JUST WANTS TO PROVOKE AND INSULT THE INDIGNES AND THEIR CULTURAL BELIEFS AND RELIGION, JUST LIKE HIS COLONIAL MASTERS![/size]


be good unto animals and they will be good unto you. .