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Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by panafrican(m): 8:31pm On May 16, 2006
smiley Bye OBJ ,the dream is over.
we won't miss you for sure tongue
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by bolex(m): 8:35pm On May 16, 2006
miss ?

when fuel price has gone up

his children are up and down UK and USA enjoying life

you say miss

fu*ck him
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 9:09pm On May 16, 2006
our victory songs should be reserved for now in order for us not to be taken off-guard. we should still remember that there'll be more plots popping up because this is a fight-to-finish for the TTA (Tired and Torn Animals) clan.

cool cool cool
IBB
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by rasque(m): 9:18pm On May 16, 2006
@IBB

Correct talk. Not yet uhuru. These GREEDY politicians can go to any length to achieve their aims
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by obong(m): 4:00am On May 17, 2006
we're almos there. now we have to make sure ibb doesnt come back
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 5:34am On May 17, 2006
*smiles* @obong

cool cool cool
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by wiseguy(m): 8:23am On May 17, 2006
This is the greatest dividend of democracy to come from the senate. But the fight has just begun. We have to make sure whoever succeeds OBJ is a Leader and not a ruler.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nia: 8:28am On May 17, 2006
This news puts me at peace and would inform future leaders that they would face challenges if they don't obey the laws of the land, although money can still change this in the future, considering Naija's polity, if the right people are given the correct ghana-must-gos. It is still a very welcomed development, sha. OBJ needs to encourage Okonji-Iweala to run. He needs to put his support behind her. Either her or El rufai has my votes.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by blackky100(m): 8:36am On May 17, 2006
, Shock, Disbelief In the Presidency
Divisions surface over 3rd term campaign
By Bolaji Adebiyi, 05.17.2006

For Aso Rock, the defeat of the third term Constitution Am-endment Bill in the Senate came early.
The Chief of Staff to the President, Major General Abdullahi Mohammed (rtd), is generally a calm man whose visage hardly change no matter the pressure. But he was a different man yesterday afternoon as he watched the Senate debate relayed live on the African Independent Television (AIT).
With the failure of the motion by Senator Jonathan Zwingina seconded by Senator Arthur Nzeribe, a worried Mohammed called the Secretary to the Govern-ment of the Federation, Chief Uffot Ekaette, saying "I hope you are watching AIT, dem don dabaru am o! (They’ve scuttled everything).”
In shock disbelief, Mohammed was said to have asked Ekaette, "how are we going to tell the man now?", apparently referring to President Olusegun Obasanjo who was on a one-day visit to France.
THISDAY checks last night revealed that in the final plot before he left, Obasanjo's supporters had sought, by way of exit strategy, a six-year single tenure that would give him two extra years rather than a third term of four years.
Given the mood at the National Assembly where the opposition had been emboldened, it was however agreed that the best way to do that was to allow for a week to lobby members about the new idea. That was why Zwingina moved the motion seconded by Nzeribe. But aware that they now had the number to kill the Bill once-and-for-all, the anti-third term lawmakers decided to go straight for a second reading and with the support of Senate President Ken Nnamani who had decided to stand by the Rules, it was easy for them.
But in the House, Deputy Speaker, Austin Opara, who was the arrowhead of the six-year single term plot and had been programmed to bode the idea, having got wind that the Senate had killed the Bill, decided to go populist. That was how he said the incumbent would not enjoy from the amendment, which was a clear deviation from the original idea which he would have pushed had Zwingina's motion succeeded in the Senate.
Meanwhile, Aso Rock was like a ghost town yesterday as Presidential aides were in shock disbelief about how the whole third term project ended.
But the drama at the Villa actually begun on Monday morning when AIT and Ray Power radio aired a two-minute pro-third term jingle which sought continuity for the Obasanjo administration on the basis of its achievements.
In the jingle, said to have been approved by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) Board of Trustees Chairman, Chief Tony Anenih, activities of certain members of the economic team were highlighted with their photographs.
These members include Solid Minerals Minister and former Head of Due Process office, Mrs. Obiageli Ezekwesili and Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) Chairman, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu.
Immediately the first broadcast was aired, however, the AIT Abuja Studio Manager got a message from Ezekwesili, asking why her name should be lent to the jingle she did not believe in without anybody consulting her.
When told of the source and that it was an advert, an angry Ezekwesili was said to have demanded of AIT management its stoppage or that her name and photograph be edited from the jingle in the event that it must be aired again.
Apparently taken aback by this demand, the AIT officials contacted Anenih who ordered that the jingle should continue to be aired, adding that if Ezekwesili called again, the AIT people should tell her to resign and that the jingle was from the presidency.
Anenih further told the AIT management that he would report Ezekwesili's action to her boss, meaning President Obasanjo.
But the news of Ezekwesili's effrontery had spread within the Presidential Villa and that may have emboldened other aides to state openly that the tenure elongation scheme would damage the president and rubbish the economic reforms programme.
Given such crack within the fold, especially among those regarded as Obasanjo's 'apostles', it was apparent to those pushing the third term agenda within Aso Rock that the idea was doomed.
By Monday evening when Obasanjo met Governors before his departure for France, Senate President Ken Nnamani also came with bad news by asserting that there was no magic he could conjure to ensure two thirds majority in the Senate. In unambiguous term, Nnamani was said to have told the gathering that the third term clause would never see the light of the day in the senate and that he was not prepared to bend the rules in anyway or shape. That led the pro-third term lawmakers into working out the six year single term that would give the president two extra years, an idea that has now been effectively killed with the bill. Aso Rock sources confirmed last night that Obasanjo will most likely make a broadcast to the nation within the next few days to douse tension and reaffirm his commitment to democracy anchored on the rule of law and specifically state that he has no desire to stay beyond May 29, 2007.
He alluded to this yesterday in Paris, France, where he assured the international community of the determination of the present generation of African leaders to entrench democracy and good governance on the continent.
"On our side, we can assure you of our commitment to moving Africa away from the past towards a new dawn of unity, harmony, love, tolerance, dialogue and democratic politics," Obasanjo said in his statement at the presentation of the 2005 Felix Houphouet-Boigny Peace Prize to President Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal. The President therefore urged the international community to continue to support "ongoing efforts at repositioning the continent for peace, stability, progress and democracy".
He described the Senegalese President as one of the "valiant leaders" of the "combat for peace" that was still going on in Africa, adding that Africa had known too many conflicts and still continued to face great challenges of conflict resolution between and within nations.
"In spite of some recorded notable successes, the road to full peace and democracy in our lands is still spread ahead of us. This is why we welcome this gesture of acknowledgment and encouragement to Abdoulaye Wade, a leader in our midst, as we continue the battle in search of peace," Obasanjo told the gathering at UNESCO Headquarters in Paris which included President Jacques Chirac of France and other African leaders.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by micklplus(m): 8:45am On May 17, 2006
Yeah, victory for all ! This is a beautiful development for this country.it shows our senators are still sensitive ! Though, they might be grossly insensitive on some certain issues but, atleast, they've been able to prove to us that, they cant just be given orders (Ghana Must Go) anyhow.

We also must commend a lot of people that said NO ! to this TTA. Chukwumerije and the likes of him, A.I.T our darling station because, some of the senators would have supported the idea if no media coverage has been in place! Also,the entire people of Nigeria that cried out against the devilish T.T.A

However at this point of our life as a country, it is very important for us to be up and down so that, whoever we are going to elect will not be a ruler but, a LEADER.

We should shine our eyes and also SAY NO to all those wolves in Sheep Clothes that are roaming in the corridors of power !

Cheers !
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by blackky100(m): 8:46am On May 17, 2006
Shock, Disbelief In the Presidency
Divisions surface over 3rd term campaign
By Bolaji Adebiyi, 05.17.2006

For Aso Rock, the defeat of the third term Constitution Am-endment Bill in the Senate came early.
The Chief of Staff to the President, Major General Abdullahi Mohammed (rtd), is generally a calm man whose visage hardly change no matter the pressure. But he was a different man yesterday afternoon as he watched the Senate debate relayed live on the African Independent Television (AIT).
With the failure of the motion by Senator Jonathan Zwingina seconded by Senator Arthur Nzeribe, a worried Mohammed called the Secretary to the Govern-ment of the Federation, Chief Uffot Ekaette, saying "I hope you are watching AIT, dem don dabaru am o! (They’ve scuttled everything).”
In shock disbelief, Mohammed was said to have asked Ekaette, "how are we going to tell the man now?", apparently referring to President Olusegun Obasanjo who was on a one-day visit to France.
THISDAY checks last night revealed that in the final plot before he left, Obasanjo's supporters had sought, by way of exit strategy, a six-year single tenure that would give him two extra years rather than a third term of four years.
Given the mood at the National Assembly where the opposition had been emboldened, it was however agreed that the best way to do that was to allow for a week to lobby members about the new idea. That was why Zwingina moved the motion seconded by Nzeribe. But aware that they now had the number to kill the Bill once-and-for-all, the anti-third term lawmakers decided to go straight for a second reading and with the support of Senate President Ken Nnamani who had decided to stand by the Rules, it was easy for them.
But in the House, Deputy Speaker, Austin Opara, who was the arrowhead of the six-year single term plot and had been programmed to bode the idea, having got wind that the Senate had killed the Bill, decided to go populist. That was how he said the incumbent would not enjoy from the amendment, which was a clear deviation from the original idea which he would have pushed had Zwingina's motion succeeded in the Senate.
Meanwhile, Aso Rock was like a ghost town yesterday as Presidential aides were in shock disbelief about how the whole third term project ended.
But the drama at the Villa actually begun on Monday morning when AIT and Ray Power radio aired a two-minute pro-third term jingle which sought continuity for the Obasanjo administration on the basis of its achievements.
In the jingle, said to have been approved by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) Board of Trustees Chairman, Chief Tony Anenih, activities of certain members of the economic team were highlighted with their photographs.
These members include Solid Minerals Minister and former Head of Due Process office, Mrs. Obiageli Ezekwesili and Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) Chairman, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu.
Immediately the first broadcast was aired, however, the AIT Abuja Studio Manager got a message from Ezekwesili, asking why her name should be lent to the jingle she did not believe in without anybody consulting her.
When told of the source and that it was an advert, an angry Ezekwesili was said to have demanded of AIT management its stoppage or that her name and photograph be edited from the jingle in the event that it must be aired again.
Apparently taken aback by this demand, the AIT officials contacted Anenih who ordered that the jingle should continue to be aired, adding that if Ezekwesili called again, the AIT people should tell her to resign and that the jingle was from the presidency.
Anenih further told the AIT management that he would report Ezekwesili's action to her boss, meaning President Obasanjo.
But the news of Ezekwesili's effrontery had spread within the Presidential Villa and that may have emboldened other aides to state openly that the tenure elongation scheme would damage the president and rubbish the economic reforms programme.
Given such crack within the fold, especially among those regarded as Obasanjo's 'apostles', it was apparent to those pushing the third term agenda within Aso Rock that the idea was doomed.
By Monday evening when Obasanjo met Governors before his departure for France, Senate President Ken Nnamani also came with bad news by asserting that there was no magic he could conjure to ensure two thirds majority in the Senate. In unambiguous term, Nnamani was said to have told the gathering that the third term clause would never see the light of the day in the senate and that he was not prepared to bend the rules in anyway or shape. That led the pro-third term lawmakers into working out the six year single term that would give the president two extra years, an idea that has now been effectively killed with the bill. Aso Rock sources confirmed last night that Obasanjo will most likely make a broadcast to the nation within the next few days to douse tension and reaffirm his commitment to democracy anchored on the rule of law and specifically state that he has no desire to stay beyond May 29, 2007.
He alluded to this yesterday in Paris, France, where he assured the international community of the determination of the present generation of African leaders to entrench democracy and good governance on the continent.
"On our side, we can assure you of our commitment to moving Africa away from the past towards a new dawn of unity, harmony, love, tolerance, dialogue and democratic politics," Obasanjo said in his statement at the presentation of the 2005 Felix Houphouet-Boigny Peace Prize to President Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal. The President therefore urged the international community to continue to support "ongoing efforts at repositioning the continent for peace, stability, progress and democracy".
He described the Senegalese President as one of the "valiant leaders" of the "combat for peace" that was still going on in Africa, adding that Africa had known too many conflicts and still continued to face great challenges of conflict resolution between and within nations.
"In spite of some recorded notable successes, the road to full peace and democracy in our lands is still spread ahead of us. This is why we welcome this gesture of acknowledgment and encouragement to Abdoulaye Wade, a leader in our midst, as we continue the battle in search of peace," Obasanjo told the gathering at UNESCO Headquarters in Paris which included President Jacques Chirac of France and other African leaders.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by blackky100(m): 8:50am On May 17, 2006
Third Term: A Death Foretold
From Kola Ologbondiyan in Abuja, 05.17.2006

Like a pack of cards, the third term of office ambition of President Oluse-gun Obasanjo yesterday collapsed as the Senate killed the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (Amendment) Bill, 2006.
The bill, which contained 116 proposed clauses for amendment had sought, among others, to alter section 137 (1) (b) of the constitution to extend the maximum tenure of the President from two to three terms of four years each.
The bill also sought to enhance the independence of the legislature and the national electoral commission by making their budget a first line charge on the nation’s consolidated revenue; abolish criminal immunity for executive office holders and liberalise the provisions for creation of states.
But at the close of debate on its general principles yesterday, the bill failed to sail through to the second reading as the Senate by a clear voice vote said it should be rested.
This, in legislative parlance, meant that it had been considered unworthy of further consideration of the Senate and, therefore, stood rejected.
Although the House of Representatives continues deliberations on the bill today, by the provisions of Section 9 (2) of the Constitution, the bill, on account of its rejection by the Senate, is as dead as dodo.
This is because the section requires each of the two chambers of the National Assembly to pass any bill meant to alter any provision of the constitution by two-thirds of its entire membership before it could go to the state Houses of Assembly for concurrence.
With its rejection by the Senate, it means that further actions on the bill cannot continue.
“With this vote, the Senate has in clear terms said that further deliberations on the bill should be discontinued,” the President of the Senate, Chief Ken Nnamani, said, proclaiming the death of the contentious bill that had held the nation spell bound in the last two months.
The stage for the death of the controversial bill was set when at the close of debate; seven of the 11 senators that made their submissions spoke against tenure extension. The remnant was left for the proponents of third term even as one senator stood on the fence.
Those who spoke against the bill yesterday were former President of the Senate, Adolphus Wabara (PDP, Abia); Senators Farouk Bello-Bunza (ANPP, Kebbi); Uche Chukwumerije (PDP, Abia); Gbemisola Saraki (PDP, Kwara); Tokunbo Afikuyomi (AD, Lagos); Garba Haruna (PDP, Gombe); and, Mohammed Ahmed (PDP, Kwara).
The senators who rallied last minute support for the third term project were Teslim Folarin (PDP, Oyo); Iyiola Omisore (PDP, Osun) and David Mark (PDP, Benue). Senator John Azuta-Mbata (PDP, Rivers), however, abstained from contributing.
Before Wabara, who took the last turn ended his “poetic and dramatic” contributions; there were pointers that if the question on the second reading was put to the floor, the anti-third term senators would win the vote as many of the protagonists were not in the chamber of the Senate.
Senator Ike Ekweremadu (PDP, Enugu), who noticed the absence of many pro-third term senators, walked the floor to seat with Mark. He put his mouth into Mark’s ears and whispered some words.
About the same time, Chukwumerije also left his seat to speak first with Nuhu Aliyu (PDP, Niger) and then to Sule Yari Gandi (ANPP, Sokoto). Senator Idris Kuta (PDP, Niger) also left his extreme left seat to rally the ANPP senators who sat on the extreme right of the gallery.
Mark then left his seat and went to occupy the seat of the Senate Majority Whip, Senator Udoma Udo Udoma. This was to enable him confer with the Leader of the Senate, Senator Dalhatu Sarki Tafida. Udoma was at this time also conferring with Chukwumerije.
While these floor politics were being rounded off as Wabara closed his debate, the Deputy Senate Leader, Senator Jonathan Zwingina (PDP, Adamawa) came via Order 80 (2) “to appeal to Senate to consider the possibility of moving the question on second reading till next Tuesday.”
But his appeal was raced back with shouts of “No! No! No! Sit Down!” The President of the Senate, rescued him. “Please allow Senator Zwingina make his point so that you can respond. Shouting no is not the best way. Let’s allow him,” he urged the senators.
Continuing, Zwingina said: “I brought this to take cognisance of the vibrancy that characterised the debate. The rationale is such that senators can reflect to change or reinforce their positions. I thought that will give us the opportunity but if we resolve otherwise, I will abide.”
Senator Olorunnimbe Mamora (AD, Lagos) rose upon Order 29 (2b) to argue that Zwingina as deputy senate leader could only act in such capacity if the senate leader was absent but zwingina countered that Mamora “may not have heard me well. I moved the motion as a senator. I came by point of order.”
Commenting, Nnamani observed that “Zwingina called our members to salient points. He believed we should reflect and consult with our constituents” but senators reacted that “we have consulted enough. We have done so.”
Nnamani maintained that “let’s allow him (Zwingina) exhaust his points.”
Gandi then raised Order 70 (c) to argue that one of the matters that is not open to debate is that a question be put from the chair and moved that question be put immediately but Nnamani responded that “you are not competent to move the motion. I’m competent to do that.”
At this point, Senator Arthur Nzeribe rose on Order 79 (1&2) to argue that the Senate Committee on Rules and Business be allowed to set a date for the second reading of the bill.
Given the rancorous atmosphere the bill was taking, Nnamani said Zwingina should come up with his motion. He (Zwingina) said he was requesting the Senate to agree that the bill be taken for second reading next Tuesday. Again, Nzeribe seconded the motion and invoked Order 79 (1&2) to back his secondment.
Nnamani then put the question to the floor on whether the bill be read a second time. It was soundly negatived. The President of the Senate, in a move to satisfy doubting Thomases, repeated the question again. Once more, the chamber reverberated with a loud sound of “nay!” He ruled in favour of the “nays”.
Nnamani then asked Mamora if he would still come forth with his motion but he replied that it was no longer necessary. Gandi then took the floor to raise Order 70 (1c) to “pray the chairman to move that question be put for the second reading of the bill.”
The President of the Senate then said: “In light of this order, I will like to call the Senate Leader to follow the right procedure.”
Tafida, who rose reluctantly and picked his words sluggishly, said: “Pursuant to Rule 70 1 (c), I move that the bill be read the second time to which the Senate Minority Leader, Senator Lawali Shuaibu, quickly added “I second that this historic bill be read a second time”
Nnamani then put the question asking those who want the bill be read a second time to say “Yes!” but he received a muttering “yes” for response. He put the question again to enable those who want the bill read a second time to put their acts together but the chamber could hardly hear the response.
At this point, Nnamani asked those who were opposed to reading the bill a second time to say nay and the response was thunderous. Before he would hit the gavel, the anti-third term senators had started a victorious dance having won the voice vote.
The time was 1.44pm. The pro-third term senators were glued to their seats. Nnamani, looking in the direction of his stunned deputy, Alhaji Ibrahim Nasir Mantu, said: “Why are you staring at me? When I put the question, it was transparently clear. You did not say anything. I put it (question) twice.
“By this result, the Senate has said very clearly that we discontinue further processes on this amendment bill,” he pronounced and hit the gavel for the Senate’s ruling.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 9:01am On May 17, 2006
Suppose OBJ does not really mean third term, suppose what he do wants was to show to the world and that incoming government can never amend the constitution to elongate their stay in government in Nigeria as compared to the rest of africa. Suppose OBJ did all this to let Nigerians know that his will be the last government with two terms and that the two terms syndrome is not feasible again. Suppose the target of OBJ is 6 year single term for incoming president and governors, suppose all the hulla balloo of the 3rd term is just a wild goose chase just to let incoming government know what they will face should they decide to stay put in office in Nigeria. Suppose OBJ is also working underground to defeat third term. Has anyone pause to think about this? read the rest at www.twinstaiye..com
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by toshmann(m): 9:05am On May 17, 2006
twinstaiye:

Suppose OBJ does not really mean third term, suppose what he do wants was to show to the world and that incoming government can never amend the constitution to elongate their stay in government in Nigeria as compared to the rest of africa. Suppose OBJ did all this to let Nigerians know that his will be the last government with two terms and that the two terms syndrome is not feasible again. Suppose the target of OBJ is 6 year single term for incoming president and governors, suppose all the hulla balloo of the 3rd term is just a wild goose chase just to let incoming government know what they will face should they decide to stay put in office in Nigeria. Suppose OBJ is also working underground to defeat third term. Has anyone pause to think about this? read the rest at www.twinstaiye..com

story!!!!!

@OBJ tongue

@ ANENIH grin

@NIGERIANS cheesy

@DEMOCRACY wink
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 9:13am On May 17, 2006
toshmann:

story!!!!!

@OBJ tongue

@ ANENIH grin

@NIGERIANS cheesy

@DEMOCRACY wink
But it is a victory for the masses because no any incoming president will ever try to amend the constitution to continue in office. I am glad in the end it is the masses that won which is what OBJ stand for. Call it anything you like, curious, but it is true. Mark my words.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by wiseguy(m): 9:37am On May 17, 2006
@ twinstaiye

You should cover your ugly head in shame.
Keep all those your "supposes" to your self.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by nuggard(m): 10:12am On May 17, 2006
U may not believe this but I am crying for Joy.I feel like a champion and I believe Nigeria's Democracy did not start On May 29 1999 ,But Yesterday.

Congrats to Nigeria. For those who are/were in support of tenure elongation.Your Fears may be genuine but we Live by the Constitution and should not be subject to a one man government.

I think Nigeria has won her first fight. please sing with me

[center]Arise oh Compatriots
Nigeria's call obey
To serve our father land,
With love and strength and faith
The labour of our heroes past shall never be in vain,
To serve with heart and Might,
One Nation bound in freedom, Peace and Unity"[/center]
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 10:15am On May 17, 2006
@taiyemeji

oh boy, u fall my hand down finish!! i never really expected to hear this from you, but then, i can understand that you're just living up to your party's (TTA- Tired and Torn Animals) defence. wink


cool cool cool
IBB
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by DeNoble1(m): 11:06am On May 17, 2006
TWINSTAIYI God will bless you for me. I so much like guys that reason the way you do.we Nigerians we are fund of seeing things in the negative way. have we ever asked our self what will hapen after OBJ is out of ASO ROCK, who will take over. pls we all should remember that the devil you know is better than the angel you dont know. Remember where we were before OBJ took over.
I strongly belived that OBJ has the interest of this country in mind than his personal, and all he is doing is to make shure nobody comes in and destroys his 6years effort.
OBJ is not stupid as some people may think
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 11:11am On May 17, 2006
wiseguy:

@ twinstaiye

You should cover your ugly head in shame.
Keep all those your "supposes" to your self.
I aint a politician, I am just trying to think like one. I am glad you have read my supposes as you called it. Mark my words. You will refer to this page once again.
IBB:

@taiyemeji

oh boy, u fall my hand down finish!! i never really expected to hear this from you, but then, i can understand that you're just living up to your party's (TTA- Tired and Torn Animals) defence. wink


cool cool cool
IBB
I always thought Nigerians should have been wiser by now (political wise) because it is high time we don't face the same directions. To me, Nothing seems what they are, it is too easy with the way those bills were defeated. If indeed he really want a third term, there are countless numbers of ways he can achieved it, and example abounds in Zimbabwe, Uganda etc. But just like you people said, I am keeping my 'supposes' to myself but am glad you have read it.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by DeNoble1(m): 11:18am On May 17, 2006
Twins why bother yourself. dont mind nigerians, they react to issues without reasoning, i still believe you are right
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 11:22am On May 17, 2006
And also that is a death to other amendments that goes with the bill, not only term elongation alone. Such amendments like immunity for governors and presidents, derivations formula etc.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 11:26am On May 17, 2006
And praise not the Senators, they can only oblige you this because money has passed under the bridge too from Atiku, IBB etc and besides this particular tenure elongation overide their selfish interest too. So they voted because of the masses, but because of their selfish interest.
Thanks Denoble, yourself must be the only one in this forum who has joined me to have a foresight that things are not what they seems they are.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by pssword: 11:30am On May 17, 2006
I read somewhere in this thread about Okonjo iweala or whatever, forget that woman, she is an obasonjo apologist. There are many very capable people men/women out there who can do the job just as well if not better without the taint of "Grand Mamber of the Obasenjo cabinet" What makes you think she was not party to this thirde term plot. Did she not stand to benefit, if she was so clean not "corrupt" why did she not resign in protest. Abeg jare, None of those ministers, governors etc. etc, should be alowed back
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by DeNoble1(m): 11:36am On May 17, 2006
It is not that I am the only one, but the rest are afraid to say the truth so that no body will rebuke them. mark open a secret opinion post and you will get many possitive respond from people.dont worry sooner or later Nigerians wiil be crying and calling OBJ to come back and rescue them
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 11:36am On May 17, 2006
@De Noble

"nigerians" mean that you are a part of us. did you; hear about the phone call OBJ made to White House last week concerning his TTA? his trip to the african country he went to recently? read the article of him begging for just 2 years to finish a work no human can finish?

the battle is still on and if you think the bill was squashed too easily, there might just be a spring up from another end (i'm definitely expecting one).

this talk of "devil and angel, " is not what we need right now. we don't need old cargoes coming back and that means i was never in support of OBJ's entrance to Aso Rock in the 1st place. different countries around the world produce fresh individuals to carry them on from grass to grace to grace, so forget about keeping your BABA after 2007 and ditch those old "GMG" experts in traditional and english attire. the painful part of it is that you and i both know our votes do NOT count in this country.

i will stop here for now and get back to you to see whether you're understanding my views on the whole issue.

cool cool cool
IBB
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 11:49am On May 17, 2006
So IBB who do you think can successfully take over from OBJ?
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 12:13pm On May 17, 2006
my name's IBB doesn't mean i'll go with IBB.

egbon mii, i cannot point out right now who i think should be the bearer of the torch because i am not in support of the people coming out. and i think Nigeria is actually being ruled by "insiders" who do not even show up on TV. if everything were to be left out plain and fair, then i'll cast my vote (1st ever) to a freshman with young and innvovative ideas. it's rather unfortunate that M-O[b]=N=[/b]E-Y fiddles with the minds of nigerians (you and i inclusive) and for that reason, the time for a new generation hasn't popped up. still, the constitution should not be amended. if at all, let it start with a new government. i personally started "deepening" my dislike for your BABA after the death of his wife, Stella and the bellview passengers and air crew at about the same time. call it a superstitious belief, but there was definitely something "not right" about that "coincidence".

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IBB
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 12:22pm On May 17, 2006
@ Twintaiye

I know you will never accept that you have failed, you have failed with the third term,  this is what you are good at,,, failure. If you like cry till jesus comes, i swear third term is a gonner, its dead and buried and mind you "we" are ready to bury who ever supports this third term together with it. If you like call it being personal, but i sure know that this has failed and who are you to find out, if IB B would regain the seat! thats is not your problem, we have fought the third term and we won so we would choose our candidate with out the help of you good for nothing TTA supporters. You never stand up to face the truth.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by wiseguy(m): 12:39pm On May 17, 2006
Most believe OBJ have done well but I believe that this third term thing was brought up by pple who dont wish him well. I believe that term limit is an essential ingredient of democracy and any democrat as OBJ claims to be should respect that no matter what.

What I expected OBJ to do is to groom any of the young technocrat around him to take over if he's afraid that the present politicians, including his vice will destroy his achievements. All these energy on 3rd term will instead be spent on selling this chosen person to the electorate. Because at the end of the day, it "should" be the choice of the peolple. Otherwise if he's given extra tenure and he goes on to achieve more things during that tenure. he will now ask us to give him life presidency so that nobody comes in to destroy all the goodies. And will that mean if he is no more, Nigeria will cease to exist. God forbid! Where is Abacha today? Is Nigeria not existing? Incidentally it is the same Ojo Maduekwe's and the Anenihs that, were telling us then that it is only Abacha that the cap fits, are the ones pushing OBJ today. Most of them threatened to go on exile then if not Abacha but they are still here today still trying to bring confusion to the country.

OBJ is not perfect but he has done his bit. Its time to retire. He should play a statesman role for NIgeria, Africa and the world just like Nelson Mandela is doing now.

So I see what happened in the senate as a victory for OBJ in particular so he can atleast retire to his farm with respect and every sense of accomplishement. And he should be wary of the Mantu's and Anenihs. These men are no good.

The future of Nigeria is secure in the hands of The Almighty. OBJ should not worry (that is, if there is no skeleton in his cupboard).
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 12:52pm On May 17, 2006
@wiseguy

may your days on earth be filled with wisdom as much as that of King Solomon.

Anenih is one man every politician in this country should beware of. in 2003, he said he would stand with PDP till the end as the party chairman (that's his post, shey) and never deviate. last december, there was a summit in Enugu and the issue was producing a leader from the South to run for office in 2007. he was with them and supported the notion. in less than how many months, he joined the TTA noise-makers and today, he is in the US calling Nigeria to ask how things are going.

death pulls closer than life
the devil inside of you speaks louder than the angel


OBJ should just step-down honorably and take a chill pill in Ota (i think he's even scared of staying there).


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IBB
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by twinstaiye(m): 1:17pm On May 17, 2006
Ashiwaju:

@ Twintaiye

i swear third term is a gonner, its dead and buried and mind you "we" are ready to bury who ever supports this third term together with it.
I am waiting to be burried along with it ashiwaju, that is what you anti third term knows how to do best - propaganda!. Youthink you are the one that won, far from it, it is a victory for nigeria masses, afterall no any person will come in future to say he want to amend the constitution to perpetrate himself in the office. shame on you.

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