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Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 6:09pm On May 17, 2006
the only fight obj would cook is straight for his grave, if he does something silly, then he would sure go down with it. its not for him to decide anylonger the God of Afikuyomi,mamora,tinubu and all other prominent ppl would be watching
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 7:42pm On May 17, 2006
@Ashiwaju

It’s very mischievous of you to say the Igbo did the same in the East. Was it not a RETALIATORY measure? After many years of being butchered like animals we decided to take a firm stand to show that no one has a monopoly on violence. Instead of acknowledging this, you are trying to catch the truth in a tangled web. Be more objective Mr man. It’s because of all this double standards that the country is having all the problems it is.

@lawole

You are there talking about factories and property when lives are at stake. That those lives are Igbo doesn’t make them any less precious biko. Ehhr, aburo?
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by saintjide: 9:07pm On May 17, 2006
HMMMM FOLKS I STILL BELIEVE SOMETHINGS UP??I MEAN I SMELL SOME SNEAKY DEAL GOING ON HERE COS JUST ABOUT LAST WEEK THE WHOLE SENATE WAS CALMOURING FOR 3RD TERM AND IN SUCH A SHORT WHILE AGAIN THE WHO SENATE IS SAYING NO 3RD TERM, WATCH OUT OHHHH.NAIJA POLITICIANS ARE DANGEROUS OH, IM SURE SMOTHING IS DEFINITELY UP, undecided
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 1:41am On May 18, 2006
Nutter:

@Ashiwaju

It’s very mischievous of you to say the Igbo did the same in the East. Was it not a RETALIATORY measure? After many years of being butchered like animals we decided to take a firm stand to show that no one has a monopoly on violence. Instead of acknowledging this, you are trying to catch the truth in a tangled web. Be more objective Mr man. It’s because of all this double standards that the country is having all the problems it is.

I am warning you Nutty, i am not ready for this but lemme give you this piece, dont you think it is rather a question in the wrong direction asking me why hausa killed igbo and why igbo killed hausa? Dont you think it is rather personal, atleast none of the doctorines teaches that you have to kill for religious reasons and who ever must have done that, did it for their personal reasons. you are very very sentimental and bias and we aint gonna achieve nothing on this debate so i dont intend to lure in it. You got That. Remember, Nigeria is not ajoined by a Union, each states was created by the federal govt, even though that bull shit about 39 years or so, We have properties where we dont belong and we are now living amosngt each other, so disolving is not the solution and Gentle men, you knew what happened in the days of Biafra and i just dont want to see more of that, many people are yet to recover from it and all what people like you do is light the matches and flee, would you lead the battle? would you take your live to gain biafra, dont just say shit and i would advice you to withdraw or stay mute on this matter cus it aint good for u, Dont just say Biafra, if you aint born during biafra pls ask the elderly ones around you or find the documentary and see what a war looks like. Yeye Man abi na boi i go talk
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by LoverBwoy(m): 3:05am On May 18, 2006
I never knew it was this serious, this grown woman crying shocked, kia i bet she suppose to get some huge bonus grin

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2006/may/17/newsbreak-17-05-2006-001.htm
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by bolex(m): 8:33am On May 18, 2006
I hope she knows what she & her group of nut heads have turned Naija into

angry

She should cry about the downfall of Naija

also , she should cry for joy her dirty granpa is gonna be respecting himself and stepping down

grin
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 12:32pm On May 18, 2006
@Ashiwaju

grin You are warning me? Don't be ridiculous mate. You don't have a clue about what I have done within and outside that country towards the struggle so it doesn't become you to tell me that I cannot stand and fight. Would I sacrifice my life for Biafra? YES! Not only that but I would give my life many times over if I could. The most interesting thing is there are many others just like me. What a silly question. Why would I not lay down my life so the next generation would not have to go through the despicable treatment that has long been my companion for no other reason than my ethnicity?

Your mind-set is betrayed by your remark: "We have properties where we don't belong". I thought all parts of Nigeria are for all its citizens? Errh Mr One Nigeria? You baby debater. You do not even know how to cover your flanks.

All I have done is highlight the inability of the country to remain one because the people in power have adopted the divide-and-rule strategy from their British masters. Some of you are fighting for one Nigeria yet do not know or care about the very people that make up the entity. There are over 250 distinct ethnic groupings and close to 400 languages in that country. You One-Nigerians, do you know the 250 different groups? Forget that. Do you (honestly) know up to 30 (just 30 of the 250) ethnic groups? If you do not know them, how can their interests be represented? How can Nigeria be truly one? How can one and all buy into the Nigeria experiment? Rubbish!

Bottom line, take your Nigeria and I will take my BIAFRA. You are incapable of debating the merits of your position.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 1:45pm On May 18, 2006
@Nutty

Atlast the much awaited guy has shown up. Mr. Nutty, you know words are easier said than done, we hear that every day and we are used to it. So cut the crap.

When i say, we have properties where we dont belong, if you understand yourself, you would know what i meant is if we split then we would end up having most of our stuff outside our territory. get that.

What many of you are willing to do is cause more havoc than what is on ground, where are you fighting for self? do you know how many times we have changed Igbo Senate Presidents in 7 Years? what does that implies? does it still have something to do with biafra?

As much as i hate to discriminate, as much as i want and i know nigeria would remain as one, i really dont wish to say too much on the divide, together we own this country and nothing would split this country and i wanna use this opportunity to tell those who intends to sacrife their life to gain biafra, that 1. we would rather save their life to remain one nigeria and 2. that we would not only sacrifice one life to make nigeria stay as one nation. When the Cocoa was coming from the WEST why didnt y'all talk of spliting nigeria and mind you, Biafra does not exist as far as i am concerned. it is long dead, died in the 70s and cannot be re awakened.

If you have weak and selfish senators, is that reason enuf to call for biafra? you are only showing to the whole world that y'all are cowards, you cannot stand a dialogue because you are weak and you wanna resolve to violence. This is yet another IRAQ and Afganistan.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Mariory(m): 2:16pm On May 18, 2006
Nutter:

Don't be ridiculous mate. You don't have a clue about what I have done within and outside that country towards the struggle so it doesn't become you to tell me that I cannot stand and fight. Would I sacrifice my life for Biafra? YES! Not only that but I would give my life many times over if I could. The most interesting thing is there are many others just like me.

LMAO the internet truley is a confidence builder.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 3:31pm On May 18, 2006
Atlast the much awaited guy has shown up. - Ashiwaju

grin You were waiting for me? Waiting for another round of pummelling? Surely you must have S&M leanings. cheesy

When i say, we have properties where we don't belong, if you understand yourself, you would know what i meant is if we split then we would end up having most of our stuff outside our territory. get that. - Ashiwaju[/color][color=#990000][/color]

Sorry mate – too late! What you said is there for all to see. The context in which it was said is also there. Such a shame.

[color=#990000]i want to use this opportunity to tell those who intends to sacrife their life to gain biafra, that 1. we would rather save their life to remain one nigeria and 2. that we would not only sacrifice one life to make nigeria stay as one nation. - Ashiwaju
[/color][color=#990000]

Why are those lives not being saved now I ask you? If there is a problem with what was said about Miss World contestants, Igbo are killed. If cartoons are drawn in Denmark, Igbo are killed. If there is a tussle for power in the centre, Igbo are killed. America invades Afghanistan nko? Igbo are killed. America invades Iraq, Igbo are killed. Ah, ah! Na wetin?

When the Cocoa was coming from the WEST why didnt y'all talk of spliting nigeria - Ashiwaju

You cannot rewrite history my dear man. We all know about how the Igbo bought into the spirit of a united country. We all know that there was no part of Nigeria that was too far or too perilous for the Igbo to go and make a home. We all know that when we arrived in cities like Kano we were not received as comrades and partners in the Nigeria experiment but instead were directed to cemeteries to lay our heads. We all know about the State-sponsored massacres that forced the Igbo to flee from all parts of the country back to the East. We all know that when assurances were received, the Igbo AGAIN returned only to be massacred in a new wave of ethnic intolerance. We all know the stories of how limbs were hacked, heads were chopped off, eyes were punctured and pregnant women had their unborn babied ripped from their bellies. We know all these things yet you talk about COCOA? Who ever cared about your COCOA? You don’t seem to know that the money from cocoa was centred on developing the WEST while a stipend was sent to the centre. If you don’t know the history of the very country you fight to keep one then ASK. Or - better still - keep you diseased sense of history to yourself.

you are only showing to the whole world that y'all are cowards, you cannot stand a dialogue because you are weak and you want to resolve to violence. - Ashiwaju[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

When did this transmute from a debate between the both of us to one where a whole people are labelled cowards? Biko hold your tribalistic tendencies in check. Your statement is not only laughable but also weakens your One-Nigeria position.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 4:03pm On May 18, 2006
If you like Mr Nutty, Change from Red Ink to Green ink, you are on your own and you seem to be too overwhealmed about this biafra thing. Like someone has said Internet has giving people like you a chance to come out and say crap, if you like split my sentences letter by letter, punctuation by pucntuation, it still wont change a thing, Biafra has failed since the day it started and if you like Cry hell, nothing, absolute nothing can be done to revive it.

I know the fight would not go beyond Ore Boundary this time again and the same man and God who took care of the biafra then is still capable of doing the same now. and if you know me well, you would know i am not denying any of what i have said ealier, i am only helping people like u with a beta illustration.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by jibitoye(m): 4:05pm On May 18, 2006
Ashiwaju,

Please do not get easily incensed by Mr Nutty out here. He is only expressing his desire to see the actualization of a Biafran dream.

To Nutty however: It is only when you are ignorant of the trends in global politics and economies that you will in all honesty desire for the balkanization of the Nigerian state as it is now.
But like every nation within the Nigerian sphere your fears are not exclusively inadmissible. They are real but like I always mention, the problem with Nigeria is not that we don’t know that we have problems but essentially that we aim to reach our objectives but with the wrong methods.

The problems that we have either in the South-East or the South-South is the same in every zone of the country (as a practical analogy, Garri is not essentially cheaper in Zaria than in Lagos with a horrendously wide margin and I can assure you that every Nigerian faces the same life battles irrespective of where they are resident).
We have for a long time been having leaders who have no ties with the people they are leading hence, the dividends of good governance are forever eluding the people. People keep shouting resource control as if that alone will equate economic freedom. People keep shouting rotational presidency as if that in itself will be a succour to our national woes. Likewise the emotional warlords of Biafra and the Niger Delta. What will you do with Biafra if you have it today? I bet you do not know the first things about that.

Sincerely, until we have a welfare-driven leadership in Nigeria (which in all honesty is the duty of government), these problems will persist. And when I mentioned welfare on now rested Lagosforum.com last year some ignoramus was quick to label me a “die hard socialist/communist”. This is not about that, but it is about having a government which sets in motion a goal of recreating more resources for itself and thereby redistributing such resources to creating better life chances for its citizens. If you know that as a Nigerian, there are institutions that will guarantee that your eventual outcome in life will not be dependent on inheritance, status, tribe, clan, sex or any other social criteria and that irrespective you can aspire for anything of your heart’s desire without fear of injustice or systemic strangulation, you will not be anchoring for dismembering Nigeria! You in fact will be busy with the business of your life that you will want to effectively capture the best life can offer you.
The sad part is that a Biafran nation or Niger Delta republic with its present constitution of leadership will not guarantee such. Hence, we have to wake up to reality and stop all this tribal jingoist recantations of Biafra, Oduduwa and the likes.
The governments we have had in Nigeria have never made the welfare of the people a priority and it sad enough.
The bulk of the oil in the UK comes from the North Seas yet, the people in Scotland are not arguing about leaving the UK in its entirety to form a new country. In fact, Europe is aligning her constituent economies to form a larger front to have a comparative advantage in the global economy, so why should Nigeria break into tiny states with hardly the resources to effectively participate in world economy today?
Another scenario is that for those clamouring for a break in the Nigerian state, we should ask where does it begin and where exactly will the divisions end?
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by kellybaba(m): 6:32pm On May 18, 2006
heelo everyone: special information.believe it or not,we all hv bin hoodwinked in2 believing that we hv heroes in national asembly ! 3rd trem plot was as unreal as 9ja having a 2-4-7 power supply !

a carefully hatched script(it was meant to be debated,strongly canvassed for and later jettisoned)was bin executed as a diversionary agenda to buy time and groom a successor while scaring away all interested aspirants and opposition to d top job,by cooking up an impression that baba wants 2 stay beyond 2007 as d fear of baba is really d beginning of 'wisdom' in d land.

u watch and see !
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by OldGlory1(m): 6:37pm On May 18, 2006
Kelly

U sound like a conspiracy theorist, u are giving OBJ too much credit. He wanted to stay in Power and was defeated Period! What we need now is for the electorate to demand and stand behind new/fresh candidates.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 7:03pm On May 18, 2006
@Ashiwaju

grin You sound battle-weary. Good. I hadn’t even started with you. All your ‘points’ were revealed to reflect nothing more than a figment of your imagination. They simply do not bear out the situation on the ground – far from it. Next time, I hope you will fully evaluate your thoughts before you rush to your keyboard. Now Ogbeni, go and brush-up on Nigerian history and stop embarrassing yourself. First thing you should do is get to know the 250 ethnic groupings that make up your country. Until that is done, your clamour for One-Nigeria shall remain empty.



@jibitoye

What will you do with Biafra if you have it today? I bet you do not know the first things about that.[/color][color=#990000][/color]

Don’t be presumptuous. Remember, Biafra was a fully-functional republic for several years. Remember, the technological advances made with substandard materials (and at war time no less) remain a beacon and a source of pride to Africans at home and in the Diaspora; and the envy of all others.

[color=#990000]If you know that as a Nigerian, there are institutions that will guarantee that your eventual outcome in life will not be dependent on inheritance, status, tribe, clan, sex or any other social criteria and that irrespective you can aspire for anything of your heart’s desire without fear of injustice or systemic strangulation, you will not be anchoring for dismembering Nigeria!
 

Exactly! You have hit the nail on the head. At great pain I shall remind all that the Igbo bought into the notion of Nigeria and made several sacrifices in support of its unity. The first recorded attack of Igbo in the North was in the 1950s. Before our independence. Yet the Igbo held aloft a dream for a united entity. However, those institutions that should ensure equity and justice remain seriously lacking. Even more troubling is the fact that the very custodians of those institutions are unconcerned about the deliberate targeting of a particular group. The war has been over for more than 35 years. How much longer shall we wait for justice to be done? It's easy for people like Ashiwaju to rush to condemn. I doubt that they know what it's like to run from a mob of matchete-weilding youths intent on drawing blood. I doubt that they know what it's like beg for mercy while they hack away your limbs. I doubt that they know what it's like to see a business you have slaved for, razed to the ground. I doubt that they know what it's like to receive the bodies of dead relatives; men, women and children, whose only crime was that they were Igbo. I doubt that they know what it's like to behold the sight of a pregnant women whose belly was ripped open in the crudest and most despicable of ways. I doubt that they know what it's like to see your entire family beaten and set alight before your eyes. Well folks, that is the Igbo reality. Our reality in the Nigerian pod. Are we not human too?


The sad part is that a Biafran nation or Niger Delta republic with its present constitution of leadership will not guarantee such.[/color][color=#990000]

That’s your opinion; one you are fully entitled to. I however disagree. We may not be able to talk in terms of guarantees but one thing I am sure of is there would be a sense of belonging. The glass ceiling would disappear. Above all, lives would be spared.

The bulk of the oil in the UK comes from the North Seas yet, the people in Scotland are not arguing about leaving the UK in its entirety to form a new country.

I’m pleased you raised the UK example. This is especially important because we owe the problems in Nigeria’s make-up to the UK, or more specifically, to Britain.

1.The clamour for the sovereign State of Biafra is NOT linked to oil wealth. Let us not confuse issues. It is directly linked to a pervading sense of injustice. It is directly linked to issues such as the permanent glass ceiling and the unwillingness of the stakeholders in Nigeria to accept the Igbo as a legitimate part of the country. We are tired of being partners in name alone. Above all, wherever there is a breakout of violence in any part of the country and for whatever reason, the Igbo are targeted. Is this not a legitimate concern?

2.It’s not entirely correct to state that the Scots do not want a country of their own. In fact, only last year, the Scots and the Welsh were intensifying talks about the formation of independent nations. Their argument was that as a result of their membership of the UK, smaller countries with smaller populations (than either the Welsh or the Scots) in Europe are allocated a lot more seats in the European parliament. You should have heard about this. This leads me to my next point.

3.Although the Scots and the Welsh are part of the UK, anyone who lives here would know of the healthy dislike they have for the English. This is based on perceived injustice. This is not entirely unjustified due to the concentration of political power in English cities. To pacify the Scots and the Welsh and to give them a sense of belonging, they were allowed to operate as pseudo-autonomous entities. They have their own houses of parliament, their own country flags, and their own anthems. Additionally, Scotland prints its own version of the British Pound. Again, you should be aware of all this. The message that we learn from the British style of governance is that you cannot isolate people and still expect them to carry on blindly swearing allegiance to an indivisible entity. The British who amalgamated over 250 different groups in Nigeria simply for commercial reasons, went back home and did the right thing for themselves. Now we are expected to die for a failed arrangement when the authors of that arrangement do not see it as workable among only 3 different groups. Contrast that with our 250 and the futility of the situation becomes clear.

It is important that if we are to move forward, we learn to call a spade a spade instead of busying ourselves calling it a garden implement. That is my grouse and that is why I have responded with civility to your post. You were not afraid to state that injustice abounds. The only difference is the mode it would be redressed. You want Nigeria, I want BIAFRA. Where then is the issue?

I apologise unreservedly to the author for derailing this thread. I shall henceforth 'behave' myself. sad
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by toshmann(m): 7:24pm On May 18, 2006
kellybaba:

Heelo Everyone: Special information.Believe it or not,We all hv bin hoodwinked in2 believing that we hv heroes in National Asembly ! 3rd trem plot was as unreal as Nigeria having a 2-4-7 power supply !

A carefully hatched script(It was meant to be debated,strongly canvassed for and later jettisoned)was bin executed as a diversionary agenda to buy time and groom a successor while scaring away all interested aspirants and opposition to d top job,by cooking up an impression that Baba wants 2 stay beyond 2007 as d fear of BABA is really d beginning of 'wisdom' in d land.

U watch and see !

gredgo,

na lie. the old man wanted to go for third term. na when e see say e no go easy, e begin think otherwise. he has been there for 7yrs as president, why hasn't he groomed a successor all these while. in anycase, he can just establish a solid INEC capable of conducting free and fair election, then we naijans will select a successor freely for ourselves.

cheers
ur broda
toshmann cool
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ukpekeson(m): 8:49pm On May 18, 2006
Nairalanders nothing de happen
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by jibitoye(m): 9:25pm On May 18, 2006
Thank you very much Mr Nutter for agreeing to raise issues with the type of civility required to discuss them.

Yes, the failure of the Nigerian state is not because our leaders do not know these problems; it is more of they do not care!!
I agree with you that over time, there have been severe injustice meted out to the Igbos (and likewise other nationalities without a doubt) in Nigeria especially over such flimsy reasons as religious differences.
But I still believe the balkanization of the Nigerian state will not solve these problems.

Nigeria as it presently stands is designed to be a community of states in a Federation. But the sad scenario is that it currently operates as a unitary system which is the reason a lot of people (like you) remain disenchanted with the state as the Federal government is too far away to effectually affect the lives of the people. Easily this kind of scenario creates a monster of the Federal system.

You have mentioned the Welsh and Scottish examples which even though is imperfect but working, can be replicated in Nigeria as well simply by giving autonomy to the regional zones but still retaining the Nigerian structure for simply the administration of common institutions that will promote and secure our sovereignty (e.g. the armed forces, external affairs, economic direction and the likes). We have chosen to operate a Federal presidential system (with a whole comprising of many units) but in reality it still feels like a unitary-top command style as was evident in past military regimes.
These (and many other imperfections of the current constitution) I believe should have been the main thrust of an amendment programme/ agenda as some people would term it. But alas, our political elite as always seem to get it all wrong at every opportunity, the proponents were selfishly aiming to further enrich their nests by their talk of tenure elongation.

These issues are difficult (but not impossible) to untangle but in reality, if we have serious politicians who are ready to pursue the right solutions, we should be able to get a working solution. But my fear as always is that the present crop of politicians will not deliver these.

So Mr Nutter, it still is not yet uhuru!
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 12:44am On May 19, 2006
I hear you brother. You echo some of my sentiments. It is time for our leaders to create a Nigeria that we all find accomodating and not one that continues to be exclusive. My hopes are not high in this regard hence my clamour for a dissolution of the entity. My worst case scenario would be one of autonomy for the regions and a weak centre. Even the Irish (not the Northern Irish) who are part of the UK have a Prime Minister so these ideas are not far-fetched.

I should stop here else I continue to be guilty of the very thing I earlier apologised for. Nice chatting with you though.

Power to the People!
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Ashiwaju(m): 11:55am On May 19, 2006
@ Nutty

Did you miss me? I think i now have the time to respond to your Ill fated Comment before you finally say Bye bye to the thread. I want you to take a paper and a pen so that you can quote every letter and every word i say now.

You Said i was Battle Weary, Tell me what human on earth wont be battle weary and mind you baifra is not just a battle its a war, so if you would take a close look at the following then you would know what to expect when you open Yah mouth and Say BIAFRA.

Ojukwu Was one of the Pioneer of Biafra, How come he didnt lead the war front? Can he account for the number of homeless people in the east, the number of Innocent Citizens and family who lost all they ever worked for in their life for nothing?

Nwazurike Is the head of Massob how come he was not part of the victims of the MASSOB Struggle in the EAST. Gone are the days when people like you would light up the fire and run away, this time i swear if you light anything, you will go down with it.

Yoruba is my tribe but I speak fluent IGBO and i respect the IGBO People just the way i respect every other tribe so you dont ave to tell me to visit 250 tribes and clan before i tell you my mind. If you wanna Start it then i would say the outcome of BIAFRA is Fruitless and Baseless.

I have personally met with over 50 Biafran Victims and their remark is filled with pity, most of them have been amputated and most have lost their families and they all wished they never took part in the WAR. So if you like tell me you want to keep fighting but i would have to warn you that this is no comics and it is no dramenda where you see gun shots and fire on TV, Its deadly, its disastrous and whats the use putting all your resources into Biafra, if you are so sure of your capabilty in making a good republic of your own then contribute to the Nigeria of today and lets see your impact.

This Country has come to stay, Stay as one nation in peice and harmony.

One Nigeria, One Nation and One Love. More Power to the Senate, and More Power to the Pathrotic Nigerians
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by nuggard(m): 3:54pm On May 19, 2006
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Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by nuggard(m): 3:58pm On May 19, 2006
East and West Germany,

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republic


The Confedrates and the Union


Israel(country)---Palestine (nation)


Unfortunately Chechnyaspelling and Palestine had agitators like nutty.Where are they today?

I am in the same struggle that you are vociferously lamenting about and yet you are unable to see that we, the People don't have scruples among ourselves if you championed calling leaders to be accountable the way you campaign for Biafra then perhaps there is hope.Its obvious that our biased parents will soon be vacating power for us, Its up to us to make one Nigeria.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 6:58pm On May 19, 2006
@Ashiwaju and to a lesser extent, nuggard

I will no longer partake in the derailment of this thread. I have made points on the pain being suffered and nothing from either of you counters them. Start a thread on this I will be more than happy to respond. You had better stack up on your FACTS beforehand!

You both are coming after the dust has settled to make comments. How funny. I only regard men who find their courage in the heat of battle and not at the post-mortem.

Oh yeah, Ashiwaju, when I said you were battle-weary, it was concerning OUR sparing on this thread and not the WAR, ok? Get it together, man!

I'm done talking about this topic on this thread.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Mariory(m): 7:59pm On May 19, 2006
Nutter:

Even the Irish (not the Northern Irish) who are part of the UK have a Prime Minister so these ideas are not far-fetched.

If you aren't refering to Northern Ireland then you are wrong. The Irish Republic (Republic of Ireland) is an indepent country and not part of the UK. The UK is comprised of the "Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Nutter(m): 8:35pm On May 19, 2006
Absolutely. My mistake.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Blue2(m): 4:50pm On May 20, 2006
Nutter and Asiwaju! you guys are heating this thread up! You both have your points but i can sense a bit of sentiments creeping in. I say you guys shake hands and be FRIENDS! we can safe nigeria by going for each other's neck!

As for the thrid term thing, if i were a politican fear go catch me o! becos believe me Baba Iyabo was floored on that day and teh man no dey forgive or forget (4get that him born-again crap).
The good thing i see in all this is that OBJ would slowly satrt releasing dossiers of these politicans to teh public, Atiku has questions to answer on his activities in BPE and NCP, Buhari hasn't accounted for the PTF largess, IBB that one his sinns would fill this world and spill into Mars! who again! is it Ogbeh whose tenuse as PDP chairman was characterised by rigging and bribery.

If you think oputa panel was an opera then u aint seen anything yet!

Beware those who have been "called to come chop"
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Blue2(m): 4:51pm On May 20, 2006
oops i meant we CAN'T safe nigeria by going for each other's neck
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by IBBFan(m): 5:09pm On May 20, 2006
hahahaha Blue2. the aboki in the compound was already sharpening his suya-knife that we were going to use for your neck.
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by se4better: 8:51pm On May 20, 2006
HELLO,
PLEASE I WANT SOMEONE TO TAKE THIS LETTER TO MR PRESIDENT AND HIS PLAN TO COME BACK THE THIRD TERM, THE SUBJECT IS""""Bleep UR ASSHOLE MR PRESIDENT,WE ARE TIRED OF OLD MEN OR RATHER GRAND FATHERS RULING THIS COUNTRY, WE NEED YOUNG AND FRESH BLOOD TO RULE US""""
PLEASE NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO OPEN THIS LETTER BECOS IT CONTAINS SO MANY VITAL INFOS WHICH IS ONLY CONFIDENTIAL TO MR PRESIDENT,

4RM, NEVER SAY IT ALLOWED, NIGA OSAMA
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by Danoe(m): 9:32pm On May 20, 2006
This reply is basically on the issue of third term. If the senate have decided on that its no problem at AL. This country belongs to us all, that is the reason we have people to represent our interest on the level we need to regard. The senators have the interest of the country at Heart. Let us listen to voice of our senators and reps. the know probably more than we know when it comes to political understanding and perception.
Third term can only be actualise through political understanding and rationale.
Lets talk about sustainable and equitqable development. Let us equip our self with the Millennium Develpment goals towards a sustainable living.

Danoe

08068514826. cheesy smiley
Re: Senate Throws Out Third Term Amendment Bill by toshmann(m): 10:54pm On May 20, 2006
nice yarns danoe, do u think the MDGs are achievable with the current socio-political/economic situation in Africa, and the trend in world politics

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