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Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Ochek: 8:51am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Texas.Cowgirl:Hahahaha. Joker! |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 8:54am On Jun 24, 2013 |
naptu2: What does the law say? (Pay attention to sections 6, 8 and 10). Still doesn't mean, in fact, she's been vindicated. Thanks for the law anyway. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by chidexy(m): 9:00am On Jun 24, 2013 |
blink182: try it and let frsc or police get you. It will be like a joke when you land in prison. Then you will know the meaning of 'all animals are equal but some are more equal than others'. what about all the traditional rulers who use the coat of arm and "official" emblems, despite their not being recognized constitutionally. It is the constitution that confers legitimacy not the emblem on the podium 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by ddeola: 9:01am On Jun 24, 2013 |
It's simple, by 2015 let's vote out these power-hungry people and vote in serious-minded people who are ready to move the nation forward 2 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Okijajuju1(m): 9:07am On Jun 24, 2013 |
naptu2: Flags And Coat Of Arms Act Read the bolded... That portion of the constitution makes what shes doing perfectly legal.. The Coat of arms, Flag and all other insignia of Nigeria can be used by all of us as long as its not for a crrime and we dont deface it in anyway.. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:08am On Jun 24, 2013 |
[size=18pt]None of the issues raised are against the 1999 Constitution (As Amended) because THE CONSTITUTION IS SILENT ON THOSE ISSUES. Fullstop![/size] |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Pataki: 9:12am On Jun 24, 2013 |
percipi1: So if the office of the presidency decides to finance an office not recognized in our constitution, that makes it legal? Your argument makes me nauseated sincerely. I suppose the presidency officially financing militancy, espionage, and their respective office holders is also permitted within our constitution - no? 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Abagworo(m): 9:15am On Jun 24, 2013 |
We should pray for Jonathan because he must be seeing hell at home. I wonder how she treated Jonathan when he was not big. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Policewoman(f): 9:17am On Jun 24, 2013 |
eGuerrilla:Nonsense. This copy and paste article is nothing but an act of a personal vendatta against Dame Patience Jonathan. Didn't other first ladies e.g Abacha, Maryam, Turai do worse? |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Kabikala(m): 9:20am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Timehin: Appreciate sarcasm please! |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by takedat(m): 9:22am On Jun 24, 2013 |
percipi1:In the Appropriation Acts of 2011, 2012 and 2013, the office of the First Lady was not allotted any money, and it is not listed in the departments, agencies or commissions or other statutory bodies under the presidency. And no allocation was made for the office of First Lady under the cloak of any MDA. So it has no official funding backed by the constitution. Any allocation of money by the Federal government that is not contained in the allocation to MDA's, extra-ministerial departments, the presidency, offices of the head of service and secretary to the FG and federal executive bodies as established by Section 153 and listed in Part 1 of the third schedule to the constitution of FRN(supra) is VOID AB INITIO. Even though we know she enjoys allocation of funds from the public treasury(The naija factor), her office and the un appropriated funds to her office are violations of the constitution. 2 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:23am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Pataki: Yes, when an office not provided for in the constitution is so designate and provided official funding, it become legal. The office of the a First Lady is a designate of the Presidency, therefore, it is legal and entitled as such. Financing militancy or espionage is never official. There is no official funding for such activities. Any funding is unofficial not recognised by the National Assembly. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Pataki: 9:31am On Jun 24, 2013 |
percipi1: Where and how did you derive this legality from? Is this within our constitution? An illegal office not recognized by the constitution of our land is being funded by the presidency and you think Nigerians will eat this codswallop of yours? Who made the office of first lady designate to the presidency - the constitution? Why do you people enjoy lies and deceit this much? |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Ikpewe: 9:34am On Jun 24, 2013 |
israel007: Well all I'm waiting for is her english o. If she like make she stand for calvary. Just speak the englishcorrect yourself ntung mkpo. You think you know how to speak english? |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:36am On Jun 24, 2013 |
take dat: In the Appropriation Acts of 2011, 2012 and 2013, the office of the First Lady was not allotted any money, and it is not listed in the departments, agencies or commissions or other statutory bodies under the presidency. And no allocation was made for the office of First Lady under the cloak of any MDA. So it has no official funding backed by the constitution. Even though we know she enjoys allocation of funds from the public treasury(The naija factor), Agreed , that it is not a constitutionally designated office, however , it is backed by constitutional authority- presidency. Under the principle of delegated authority, the office of the First Lady becomes official at the pleasure of the President. The funding comes from the Presidency office.. If the president wishes, he may choose not to give it an imprimatur of officialdom. However, it has been the culture of past president, so it is today. You may not like the occupant, but that office is official as it is. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:36am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Pataki: stop arguing with that illiterate |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by kalunomics(m): 9:36am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Okija_juju:Don't mind those sentimental partisan critics... Even those that have read the Constitution will be lured to expose the ill home training they got by raining abuses on people who are old enough to be their parents, rather than criticizing constructively |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:43am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Policewoman: Nonsense. This copy and paste article is nothing but an act of a personal vendatta against Dame Patience Jonathan. Didn't other first ladies e.g Abacha, Maryam, Turai do worse? Do you think the advanced democracies you so much envy were developed by sweeping matters of national interest under the carpet? What is it with you and this abhorrence of public debate on all things related to the current Presidency? I sincerely hope you keep this tyrannical mindset under lock and key as you go about your daily duties, for the good of yourself and the general public at large 2 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:44am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Pataki: It appears to me that you don't understand the extent and precinct of the powers bestowed on the Executive President of Nigeria. He has power to create an office and name it ' Pataki '. It becomes official and can draw funding from the presidency coffer. Try and do a broad study on delegated authority vis-a-vis the office of the president of Nigeria and you will come to agree with me. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 9:46am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by deleteme: 10:14am On Jun 24, 2013 |
But late Stella Obasanjo did the same thing while OBJ was in power, where wr u then? why all this premeditated attacks on GEJ why!! Is it now a sin that we are of the Minority? |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Reference(m): 10:54am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Every passing day this woman continues to deplete, degrade and destroy the office of the Presidency, the Government and country in general. I think it is high time she is removed, period. If GEJ cannot draw the line bgtween public and private, elected and appointed, so-called first lady and vice-president then others will do 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by naptu2: 11:02am On Jun 24, 2013 |
Okija_juju: That section does not refer to the coat of arms. It refers to the flag. However, the section that refers to the coat of arms states that it can be used if the person obtains a license from the Minister of Interior and complies with the terms stated in that license. Mrs Jonathan might have obtained a license. 6. Any person who, otherwise than in conformity with the terms of a licence granted by the Minister or under other lawful authority, uses or displays- By the way, that is not the constitution, it is an act of the National Assembly (people often mistakenly believe that all laws are in the constitution). Sources of Nigerian law: 1) The Constitution 2) Acts of the national and state assemblies. (Decrees and edicts of military governments are now considered as acts of the state or national assembly) 3) Received English Law (Common Law, Doctrines of Equity, Statutes of General Application/laws made by the colonial government). 4) Judicial Precedent (court judgements). 5) Customary law (including sharia law). 6) Delegated legislation (Administrative agencies' regulations and rulings). 7) Historical, Literary or Formal sources (including latin maxims). |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by don33310(m): 11:34am On Jun 24, 2013 |
ilugunboy: When I opined on a thread that no Nigerian President has ever debased our Presidency the way GEJ is doing and that out sovereignty as a nation is in the wrong hands...I was called names by the people that feel they are having the best of times under GEJ..They are now seeing the truth |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by don33310(m): 11:41am On Jun 24, 2013 |
abu12: Madam lazarus, the only woman who died 7timeI be your friend o,why you wan kill me with laugher na,na one life i get o. Lol |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Eziachi: 11:54am On Jun 24, 2013 |
I don't think this has anything to do with Mrs Jonathan or her to be blamed. You have to look at those they paid with public fund to advise her husband. The likes of Abati, Okupe, Anyim etc. People who had no prior knowledge of governance and diplomacy but doing a job meant for professionals and learn as they go along. Those with no will to tell their boss the truth when it matters because, their number concern is their belly and relevance near that corridor or power, while feeding the ego of those they serve with whatever they can see, find or touch. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Nobody: 12:05pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
Okija_juju: If you look at the images below, you would note that the first lady appears to be using a 'counterfeit' seal which contains our coat-of-arms.
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Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by KDULAR: 12:13pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
J12: You folks should let this woman be for Christ's sake. So what if the office of the first lady is unconstitutional and she uses the nigerian coat of arms as an emblem? Does it change anything? No it doesn't.This depicts you as someone who doesn't know what decorum and order is. People like you will not see a reason why the national flag could not be used as a towel , a table cloth or worst still a rag. I may not entirely blame madam for that ( she might not know anyway which is also a sad one as she being a teacher ) but the protocol details around her are to be entirely sanctioned for the denigration of the national symbol. |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by shamson: 12:16pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
J12: You folks should let this woman be for Christ's sake. So what if the office of the first lady is unconstitutional and she uses the nigerian coat of arms as an emblem? Does it change anything? No it doesn't.Another slowpoke J12: You folks should let this woman be for Christ's sake. So what if the office of the first lady is unconstitutional and she uses the nigerian coat of arms as an emblem? Does it change anything? No it doesn't.Another slowpoke |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by Okijajuju1(m): 12:34pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
eGuerrilla: Wow!! Based on this one... I have to accept defeat!! That fat porky 200litre biittch is guilty of contravening the provisions of the laws of the Fed republic. P.S: But you do realize that hers dosent say 'seal' right?! Just First Lady, Fed. Rep of Nigeria which she indeed is.. Just saying sha! However, if she doesnt have the consent of the minsiter in charge of handing out the livence to use the coat of arms, then shes guilty.. However.. She is indeed a beached Niger Delta whale.. [/b] 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by raystanley(m): 12:46pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
gerald09: Nigerian own Magret Thatcher. Before I comment on the thread, please could Nigerians stop comparing every thing done or not done to the United States. Ѿε are not americans n it is ryt Ѿe don't do things like americans. The problem in Nigeria is dat Ѿε have adopted the culture of 4 different countries UK, US, UAE and Saudi Arabia n they all conflict with each oda. When will Nigerian do things like Nigerian so other countries in Africa will compare themselves to us. We don't have to be like the Americans to have a good government, the earlier we accept we are Nigerians n do thing like Nigerians the better and greater our country will be.monkey we have long been with american system of regeim... So there should be order in like manner... Until we decide to switch and create african system of regeim and constitution |
Re: Patience Jonathan On An Illegal Podium - Guardian Editorial by dplomaticVal: 12:49pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
Okija_juju: Erm....My friend, u've d prerogative to design your personal rostrum n garnish it wit d coat of arm bt nt d hallowed seal which is sacrosanct nd exclusively reserved 4d presidnt! |
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