frosbel:

if you call exposing frauds as insulting, you may have a point.

For example those pastors who bear the title reverend, I wonder who gave them the authority to be revered when the bible emphatically states that the greatest among us should be the least.

alexleo:

And you think name calling is the best way you can throw a light to whatever wrong you think they are doing? And by the way, am not also keen about the reverend thing. Now compare your teaching pattern and the pattern used in presenting here. You ll see a clear distinction. While your own is geared towards attack and mudslinging, this one is geared towards educating people. That's all am saying. Learn how to educate and when u do, accomodate disagreement because I can't accept what am not convinced about, likewise others.

donlyone:

Name calling, mudslinging, are you sure we're looking at the same thread?

The author presented his facts well, and I admire his delivery, I have not seen the things you mentioned in the original article or his replies, maybe you should read it again.

If you find this piece offensive, you should check yourself and make necessary adjustments.

At the author,
I love your writing, the bible is distasteful to many even in the church, they prefer the teaching of men of God even if such teachings are contrary to the bible.

surplussurplus: you must live in wilderness.cos Jesus has no home

manuell1021: in oda word neva act lyk a religionist nor a christain but live ur life lyk dat of christ nd everytin will b alright.

ono: I'm reading Steve McGregor's book: The Future Fortold and I'm like many are generally ignorant about the forces we contend with in this world as humans. Like I stated in one of my entries in the religion board, humans are not warring against ''flesh and blood'' that we see with our biological eyes, equipment and the likes.

We're contending with forces whose ultimate goal is the ''destruction of mankind in this world, and in the world to come'' And, at the head of these forces is our arch-enemy, the Devil. Thank goodness even the muslims know that he is an un-welcomed guest in every home and society.

One Shymexx said he's left ''religion'' for some 4-years now. I said to myself, wow! The guy, whoever he is, is ''almost'' there. The remaining bit is Jesus, call him Isa (muslims) or whatever. That's the name that send chills down the spine of the evil one and his forces. Thank God for a way out for mankind. We're powerless without Jesus. We can't do anything against the Devil without Jesus. Our knowledge and skills and training etc is useless without the help of Christ Jesus.

We all need to come to that consciousness that religion (Islam or Christianity or whatever) will do us all no good. Deliberate efforts must be put in by every human on earth to allow Jesus become his personal Lord and saviour in this world. This is the only way out. This is not some born again gist and stuff. You have to allow Jesus into your heart and life with every sense of urgency and sincerity of heart.

When you go to any congregation where you hear the teachings of Jesus and the word of God is preached- undiluted and how you can be saved, don't get carried away by the politics and hierarchical arrangements (religion) there. Just restrict yourself to the worship of your saviour, master and deliverer - Jesus our Lord. Listen to the word of God. Fill your heart with Love for God and Christ and your fellow men and all will be well.

Obi1kenobi: Christianity is a religion. No amount of written or verbal specious distortions or sophist rationalizations would ever negate that fact. Please, quit this delusional fallacy which I've observed is far more common among deluded christians than any other religious group: amusing people with exceptionalist delusions. Stop embarrassing yourselves with all these "christianity is not a religion" drivel.

ono:
When you go to any congregation where you hear the teachings of Jesus and the word of God is preached- undiluted and how you can be saved, don't get carried away by the politics and hierarchical arrangements (religion) there. Just restrict yourself to the worship of your saviour, master and deliverer - Jesus our Lord. Listen to the word of God. Fill your heart with Love for God and Christ and your fellow men and all will be well.

alexleo:

Yeah you are right and this is also my stand. However, What frosbel usually advocate for(not in this particular thread) is that we should leave our churches and this is very wrong and different from what you are saying. If those of us who understand these issues we discuss here run away from churches like frosbel, how then can the thousands of church goers who don't have this understanding be influenced positively? How many of those members access the internet to read up things or buy books outside of the ones written by their pastors. I don't believe in jumping from one denomination to the other. I prefer influencing a positive change wherever I am. Thanks.

alexleo:

Sorry you don't understand the issue. I am using this thread which I consider well presented to compare other threads he has opened in this section which are not well presented. If you read my first reply to this thread you ll see that I commended the presentation. Pls learn to read a post well before commenting. Thanks.

Obi1kenobi: Christianity is a religion. No amount of written or verbal specious distortions or sophist rationalizations would ever negate that fact. Please, quit this delusional fallacy which I've observed is far more common among deluded christians than any other religious group: amusing people with exceptionalist delusions. Stop embarrassing yourselves with all these "christianity is not a religion" drivel.

frosbel:

uhmm, I never asked anyone to leave their churches, stop misquoting me, appears you are on a rampage of slander.

I simply make the point that we cannot trust what the pastors or reverends are telling us in these last days, we MUST always test their doctrine and teaching with the word of GOD.

So far , many of their teachings have been found to be wanting and inclined more to the traditions of men than the doctrine of Jesus.

indoorlove: This wonderful post of yours remind me of a particular Man of God who was hell-bent on nt rendering help to his sister because she belong to another religion.

frosbel:

uhmm, I never asked anyone to leave their churches, stop misquoting me, appears you are on a rampage of slander.

I simply make the point that we cannot trust what the pastors or reverends are telling us in these last days, we MUST always test their doctrine and teaching with the word of GOD.

So far , many of their teachings have been found to be wanting and inclined more to the traditions of men than the doctrine of Jesus.

Rick9: Wooow i am so much in Love with this post,
[b]Reason is that if you look at most christians now they aint serving God the right way they are following what thier religious leader say, and neglecting the word of God. For instance most people dont know the reason why they go to church and sometimes i wonder what they go to church to learn, in every ceremony you will find dem there but they aint living the right way. We christians need to retrace our steps. And start living like christ. [/b]

m.k.o2005:

The holy one frosbel !
The ALL KNOWING AND TRUTHFUL FROSBEL !
Your write up is kool ! But if the intent is to criticize(u know in ur heart) other than to win souls for Christ,pls know that it is religious !
God help us

frosbel:

Thanks for the sarcasm.

As a former member of a cult and religious organization in excess of 10 years, having escaped death once from the throes of Apostolic faith church, having almost lost my family because of deeper life, I have now been made free, in my freedom I can now see the lies, the bondage, the demonic possession, the hypocrisy , the fake MOG , etc and I am angry, not for me but for others.

Jesus never implemented his own agenda, he always implemented the fathers agenda, yet today we so many so called MOG with conflicting agendas, rules, regulations and outright scamming of Gods children.
I will not stop this mission till the very end

m.k.o2005:

Animosity should be kept aside !
The word of God said we should be angry but sin not ! If you allow anger to stay up with u for long you know rage,malice,hatred for persons will eat you up. Then where is the love. Do not be like the Egyptian army that did the right thing yesterday but the wrong way ! You can save us with ur write up yet might not make it after all. Correct people with love. Pray for the ones you see as ur enemies today(MOG'S and other religious people) You might have the message who knows but i sure care about ur soul. Love conquers all !
God help us all

frosbel:


Jesus did not come to start an organization or a religion, he did not come to set rules and regulations, he did not come to add burdens to our lives (Matthew 11:28) , he came to set us free, to teach us about love and how to love others even our own enemies, he came to make disciples that will reflect the true character of GOD , who will in turn reconcile MEN to GOD.

Bidam: But it is this same Jesus that says hell is real and "there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth". Why don't you agree with that statement of Jesus

frosbel: I can see my 'arch enemy' Bidam watching but not contributing

just joking.

Bidam: But it is this same Jesus that says hell is real and "there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth". Why don't you agree with that statement of Jesus

Bidam: If by saying the truth i am your enemy so be it bro..

frosbel: I can see my 'arch enemy' Bidam watching but not contributing

just joking.