Chris-OD:


The do you have a problem with bilateral economic co-operation with your neighbours?

Your response is quite strange.

Why are some people afraid of dividing this Nigeria that isn't working. And they don't want Nigeria to work either.

ckkris: Why are some people afraid of dividing this Nigeria that isn't working. And they don't want Nigeria to work either.

Even if we divide Nigeria, it won't still work. Like myself for example will prefer an Ohaji/Egbema/Oguta country while some Southeasterners will want us as part of Biafra. There will be war everywhere except the Southwest and North. Ijaws vs Itsekiri will be full blown while Ikwerre will be finding their foot in a fight with Okrika who will also be fighting Eleme. Infact Southeast and South-south will be in a long lasting tribal war and war for land and natural resources. The peace we enjoy is because of Nigeria. Middlebelt will be at war too.

Abagworo:

Even if we divide Nigeria, it won't still work. Like myself for example will prefer an Ohaji/Egbema/Oguta country while some Southeasterners will want us as part of Biafra. There will be war everywhere except the Southwest and North. Ijaws vs Itsekiri will be full blown while Ikwerre will be finding their foot in a fight with Okrika who will also be fighting Eleme. Infact Southeast and South-south will be in a long lasting tribal war and war for land and natural resources. The peace we enjoy is because of Nigeria. Middlebelt will be at war too.

If a plebiscite supports Republic of Orashiland, it should be. Its not anyone's business what happens in foreign nations. All the nonsense will just stop. The Igbo nation can win Nation's Cup in 5 years, and produce bicycle within that five years. Once Aba gets Nnaji's constant power supply there's nothing stopping them. Oduduwa children have everything to be world power, but in Nigeria everyone must develop at the same pace. And it can never work.

I Think being Brain Locked is the only thing worse than being Land Locked, Other wise how could anybody explain the case of some tribes men in Nigeria who do not want to Jump ship from the sinking ship called Nigeria and are fighting off other tribes who want to jump ship .

How can one understand tribes men who have one of the largest commercial coastal city states in Nigeria Lagos, an Oil producing state in Ondo, several states with large expanse of arable Land, well developed commercial cities in Lagos and Ibadan, very Large populace numbering more than 35 million bigger than 75% of the population of African countries,a fairly educated work force and business men, struggling to be a third class citizen in a failing country with crocodile tears of how they have been marginalized by the present regime and fighting off other tribes who want to leave the sunk ship.

How can one explain the intransigence of this group of people

ckkris: If a plebiscite supports Republic of Orashiland, it should be. Its not anyone's business what happens in foreign nations. All the nonsense will just stop. The Igbo nation can win Nation's Cup in 5 years, and produce bicycle within that five years. Once Aba gets Nnaji's constant power supply there's nothing stopping them. Oduduwa children have everything to be world power, but in Nigeria everyone must develop at the same pace. And it can never work.

Nigeria can only divide peacefully on North-South basis. Any other division beyond that, will lead to eternal crisis worse than Middle east.

Abagworo: Infact Southeast and South-south will be in a long lasting tribal war and war for land and natural resources.

None of which happend in Biafra.

Abagworo:

Even if we divide Nigeria, it won't still work. Like myself for example will prefer an Ohaji/Egbema/Oguta country while some Southeasterners will want us as part of Biafra. There will be war everywhere except the Southwest and North. Ijaws vs Itsekiri will be full blown while Ikwerre will be finding their foot in a fight with Okrika who will also be fighting Eleme. Infact Southeast and South-south will be in a long lasting tribal war and war for land and natural resources. The peace we enjoy is because of Nigeria. Middlebelt will be at war too.

Is this not a false prophecy? Most of the people in old eastern Nigeria lived together in peace under former eastern region, until the onset of the civil war when divide and rule federal people came in and brainwashed many people against the Igbo. That was during the early stages of the war. But you do not blame the people in the creeks because very early in the war, the federals captured those areas and the people had no choice than to follow the federals, and some even joined the feds and fought against the Igbo after the brainwashing that Igbo was their number one enemy.

Fact is that Okrika, Ogoni, Ibibio, Ijaw, Kalabari, Ikom, etc, etc, in the old eastern region have more to share in common with the Igbo than with any other tribe in Nigeria. Presence of commonly shared value systems is the number one requisite for nationhood in any country. Absence of commonly shared values has denied Nigeria nationhood.

kettykin: I Think being Brain Locked is the only thing worse than being Land Locked, Other wise how could anybody explain the case of some tribes men in Nigeria who do not want to Jump ship from the sinking ship called Nigeria and are fighting off other tribes who want to jump ship .

How can one understand tribes men who have one of the largest commercial coastal city states in Nigeria Lagos, an Oil producing state in Ondo, several states with large expanse of arable Land, well developed commercial cities in Lagos and Ibadan, very Large populace numbering more than 35 million bigger than 75% of the population of African countries,a fairly educated work force and business men, struggling to be a third class citizen in a failing country with crocodile tears of how they have been marginalized by the present regime and fighting off other tribes who want to leave the sunk ship.

How can one explain the intransigence of this group of people

by all means you can go

This narrative of the eastern Nigeria being the picture of disunity is a fucking lie. Nowhere else in Nigeria has been as stable as south eastern Nigeria in terms of ethnic conflict. If we want to talk about ethnic wars, eastern Nigeria (and bearing in mind this is the most resource rich part of Nigeria) has been relatively tame if you do not include the late 60s which was mostly caused by external influences. The biggest inter-Igbo conflict in Nigeria cannot stand up to the biggest conflicts in other major ethnic groups, even historically we can't name any relevant major wars in the eastern region apart from the Aro-Ibibio war and Igala invasions.

Even during Biafra the state was run so well considering circumstances that it put Nigeria to shame, the capital was moved around the whole of the Igbo territory, so where was all the disunity then?

If we want to bring up a relevant argument against a Igbo-state or whatever then try something else, like the truth, I like my village group best, which there's nothing wrong with.

ezeagu:

None of which happend in Biafra.

^^^Don't mind Abagworo abeg! I don't understand some so called Igbos sometimes; if/when we get our own nation, the likes of Abagworo will be given the option of going to naturalize in any neighbouring country that tickles his fancy, so the rest of us can commence the onerous task of nation building in peace. And if Ohaji/Egbema/Oguta decide to form their own country, all well and good!

kettykin: I Think being Brain Locked is the only thing worse than being Land Locked, Other wise how could anybody explain the case of some tribes men in Nigeria who do not want to Jump ship from the sinking ship called Nigeria and are fighting off other tribes who want to jump ship .

How can one understand tribes men who have one of the largest commercial coastal city states in Nigeria Lagos, an Oil producing state in Ondo, several states with large expanse of arable Land, well developed commercial cities in Lagos and Ibadan, very Large populace numbering more than 35 million bigger than 75% of the population of African countries,a fairly educated work force and business men, struggling to be a third class citizen in a failing country with crocodile tears of how they have been marginalized by the present regime and fighting off other tribes who want to leave the sunk ship.

How can one explain the intransigence of this group of people

Another name for being so brainlocked is ABSOLUTE DIFFIDENCE. The taste of sweet crude is the cause of that brainlock and absolute diffidence.

IGBO-SON:


^^^Don't mind Abagworo abeg! I don't understand some so called Igbos sometimes; if/when we get our own nation, the likes of Abagworo will be given the option of going to naturalize in any neighbouring country that tickles his fancy, so the rest of us can commence the onerous task of nation building in peace. And if Ohaji/Egbema/Oguta decide to form their own country, all well and good!

I guess everyone will think and act alike in your fantasy republic of Biafra.

ckkris:
Igbos already have a small riverside harbour that smugglers use. Please who are the WE you talking about? All people along the Imo River understand Igbo, the language of commerce for centuries, and they co-operate very well. You don't seem to know the terrain al all.

ckkris: Is there any Ijaw-speaking village along Imo River? This man has never seen the Imo River.

See desperate men!
I understand Igbo too but still, there will be no access to the sea for Igbos. How does that sound?

You guys just have to come to terms that your post Nigeria fate as a landlocked people has been seal by God himself, He only put the keys on the hands of the Ijaws to put you where you belong.

At the vertical stretch of the Imo river, you have;
Ogoni@ the upper western bank
Ibibio@ the upper eastern bank
Opobo, Nkoro & Andoni Ijaws @ the lower western bank
Andoni Ijaws @ the lower eastern bank.

Which of these are Igbo people?
Which amongst them gonna grant you access to the sea?

As for those recalling a "happy & peaceful Eastern region", I'd say happy AMNESIA.

ijaw citizen:

See desperate men!
I understand Igbo too but still, there will be no access to the sea for Igbos. How does that sound?

You guys just have to come to terms that your post Nigeria fate as a landlocked people has been seal by God himself, He only put the keys on the hands of the Ijaws to put you where you belong.

As for those recalling a "peaceful Eastern region", I'd say happy AMNESIA.

^^^Some quick fire questions:

*You seem gleeful at the expectation of Alaigbo/Biafra being landlocked with no access to the sea; care to explain the reason for your euphoria?

*Secondly, are you talking of Alaigbo being landlocked in relation to Ijaws/Igbos, or are there any ethnicities involved?

*Finally, you assert that the old Eastern Region wasn't peaceful. Could you point to examples of other peaceful regions that you would have liked the old Eastern Region to emulate, as well as site instances of such strife over the decades that you allude to.

Cheers.

dayokanu:

Point to one westerner who has told you not to secede.

You have control over the govt now. Go ahead and split the country or forever remain silent like the genetic cowards you are.

They whine and complain everyday about actualization of Biafra but they refuse to leave SW and the North. Their destiny is in their hand if they can just decide to just go back to Alaigbo or whatever they call their Biafra aso rock. I don't know who is holding them down.

amakenny:

Is this not a false prophecy? Most of the people in old eastern Nigeria lived together in peace under former eastern region, until the onset of the civil war when divide and rule federal people came in and brainwashed many people against the Igbo. That was during the early stages of the war. But you do not blame the people in the creeks because very early in the war, the federals captured those areas and the people had no choice than to follow the federals, and some even joined the feds and fought against the Igbo after the brainwashing that Igbo was their number one enemy.

Fact is that Okrika, Ogoni, Ibibio, Ijaw, Kalabari, Ikom, etc, etc, in the old eastern region have more to share in common with the Igbo than with any other tribe in Nigeria. Presence of commonly shared value systems is the number one requisite for nationhood in any country. Absence of commonly shared values has denied Nigeria nationhood.

You guys talk as if the civil war was the first call for secession in the former Eastern Region. Before Biafra secession, the Ijaw Nation had an ongoing armed struggle to free itself from the evil grips of Biafra. What do you mean by Old Eatsern region was peaceful? Peaceful for Igbo perharps, but that's different from the experience of non-igbos in that region.

Quick FACTS

ONE: Niger Delta/ South South is a heterogeneous geo-political entity. During the Biafran war, this entity was split in their support for Nigeria and Biafra.

TWO: SOME IJAWS FOUGHT FOR BIAFRA WHILE MOST FOUGHT FOR NIGERIA

THREE: Other Niger deltas are very suspicious about IJAWs and this will become more noticeable IF a split ever Happen. (Ijaws have already shed blood of their neighbors and to be fair; vise versa).

FOUR: Eastern Niger deltans (Cross River and Akwa Ibom), Do not hate the Igbos, the trade and cultural exchange is strong and growing. In fact, it would be very short sighted and simply stupid for Akwa IBom to build Ibaka Port and refuse to allow IGBOs to import good from there. That will be Billions of lost revenues for the state/Future country.

FIVE: With global warming currently unchecked, Rising sea level is something all Niger delta Community would have to battle in the coming future.


In my humble opinion, I am not worried for Igbos being land locked in a country. If history is anything to learn from, then post Biafra war resurgence of Igbos should be a lesson for naysayers.

Chris OD,

Wake up from your Alice in Igboland fantasies.

A peaceful breakup of Nigeria will not happen unless the oil revenue is less profitable to risk life for and the various stakeholders voluntarily pull away from the center to form new political units.....either in the form of regional governments or a spin off of new sovereigns. As long the revenue is still worth dying for, it will take violence to split the nation into its units.

Let us assume we have a split, through whichever means. I want you to know that alaigbo will be in competition with your sister ethnic tribes in the East. If you go back into the history of the land.....there was a time when the coastal people resisted and blocked direct trading between the sea merchants and the hinterland people. That arrangement will not change. The coastal people will continue to opt to broker commerce between the sea and the hinterland. Giving you access to the sea will break their monopoly over the sea and take away their power.....unless they adopt an arrangement similar to Fashola is doing in Lagos; open the market, regulate diversification and impose heavy tax.

Interestingly you said they will give you access to the sea because you are allies. You never said what you will give them in return on the virtue of this common alliance, do you mind telling us?

Abagworo:

Nigeria can only divide peacefully on North-South basis. Any other division beyond that, will lead to eternal crisis worse than Middle east.

Read every single post and the statement above is the most accurate.

To be frank, the only acceptable division of Nigeria that the rest of the world would support is a North/South divide.

So Igbos and Yorubas should learn to get along, because they are not separating.

I think everyone who has commented on this topic forgot one thing: CLIMATE CHANGE

Sea levels are rising so the sea may be coming to the Igbos instead of the Igbos going to the sea.

TheBookWorm: I think everyone who has commented on this topic forgot one thing: CLIMATE CHANGE

Sea levels are rising so the sea may be coming to the Igbos instead of the Igbos going to the sea.

GOD made it so,igboland hardly experience flooding till recently so the God is wiser than men,we have different countries around the globe that are eager to trade with igbos in near future just waiting for the right time.....


Igbos are industrious in nature,we dont create enemies when it comes to business...after business,my enemies can go home and sleep and eat with jealousy all day all night.I dont care

Those who matter in such arrangements are meeting and strategizing

^^^Some of these men dont even qualify to drive taxi talkless of being "Governor".

mens dept: ^^^Some of these men dont even qualify to drive taxi talkless of being "Governor".

They are in charge today. Go and contest and test your popularity or rigging skills and contribute your own ability in developing Igboland, or wherever else you come from. Stop whining so you can live longer.

Dudu_Negro:

A peaceful breakup of Nigeria will not happen unless the oil revenue is less profitable to risk life for and the various stakeholders voluntarily pull away from the center to form new political units.....either in the form of regional governments or a spin off of new sovereigns. As long the revenue is still worth dying for, it will take violence to split the nation into its units.

1.Obama says America doesn't need African oil.
2. CIA says Nigeria will end in 2020.
3. All the parts of this puzzle are falling in place.

ijaw citizen:

At the vertical stretch of the Imo river, you have;
Ogoni@ the upper western bank
Ibibio@ the upper eastern bank
Opobo, Nkoro & Andoni Ijaws @ the lower western bank
Andoni Ijaws @ the lower eastern bank.

You see, no one has absolute control of the VERTICAL HOME STRETCH OF THE GREAT IMO RIVER, as she empties gently into the majestic Atlantic. Nigerian Navy has all the details. Get it from them.

kettykin: I Think being Brain Locked is the only thing worse than being Land Locked, Other wise how could anybody explain the case of some tribes men in Nigeria who do not want to Jump ship from the sinking ship called Nigeria and are fighting off other tribes who want to jump ship .

How can one understand tribes men who have one of the largest commercial coastal city states in Nigeria Lagos, an Oil producing state in Ondo, several states with large expanse of arable Land, well developed commercial cities in Lagos and Ibadan, very Large populace numbering more than 35 million bigger than 75% of the population of African countries,a fairly educated work force and business men, struggling to be a third class citizen in a failing country with crocodile tears of how they have been marginalized by the present regime and fighting off other tribes who want to leave the sunk ship.

How can one explain the intransigence of this group of people

You are confused ...who is stopping you? I think those stopping you will only be located among your elites having their best of time in Abuja...definitely not Yorubas on NL ( forget the brick bat) nor any average one on the street...truth is Igbos leaving will be a classic case of good riddance...

I didn't know ibos have their own version of Musiwa who is taking them to the promiseland after the the failure of amadioha-ordained leader ojuku who caused the death of millions of biafrans in his secession war.

The greed of ibos was never about access to the sea but the ND oil and ijaws are wiser today than when Ojuku unilaterally annexed them into his biafran fraud.

@Op

Edwin clark is laughing at you with your ijaw story !

~Bluetooth:


Edwin clark is laughing at you

Does Clark own any oil well?
The oil wells belong to Summit(Abiola), Honeywell(Folawiyo), and their Arewa co-conquerors. Soon brilliant kids in history classes will laugh and laugh.