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Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by plaindealer: 10:08pm On Jul 07, 2013
mbulela:
What a weak defence. My respect for your views began to diminish the day you chose to weakly defend that nepotistic act of Asiwaju. So until we see members of the ACN running around with Iyaloja banners, Tinubu is not involved? Such simplistic explanation! Kindly educate us on what other qualifications the lady has to occupy the President General position she just inherited?
This is no different to the sycophantic Perm Sec position bestowed on an illiterate woman called Patience Jonathan. The lady in question is she even a market woman in the first place?


You are entitled to your own opinion, but never your own facts. You are wrong on so many levels and I'll pick them out one by one.


1. There's absolutely no need to defend anything before you especially your opinion that's not rooted in facts and reality.

2. You have zero proof to stand on, and you can not substitute facts with innuendos, sentiments, suggestions. You can not take your baseless argument and opinion to any court of law and get any kind of conviction and that's even if they didn't throw you out and fine you for wasting the court's time.

3. Tinubu's daughter was next in line for that position so her ascendancy was automatic based on democratic norms and principle.

4. Unlike Patience Jonathan, Iyalojoa is a non governmental position and she was not appointed by the state and the state is not paying her salary. That was a crude and bogus analogy.

5. No rightful candidate was denied any position in favor of Tinubu's daughter so the only thing driving your bogus argument is the name Tinubu

You are free to speculate and hold on to your opinion, but please get over yourself and quit thinking people owe you any explanation or excuse.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Gbawe: 10:33pm On Jul 07, 2013
plaindealer:


You are entitled to your own opinion, but never your own facts. You are wrong on so many levels and I'll pick them out one by one.


1. There's absoluteness no need to defend anything before you especially your opinion that's not rooted in facts and reality.

2. You have zero proof to stand on, and you can not substitute facts with innuendos, sentiments, suggestions. You can not take your baseless argument and opinion to any court of law unless and get any kind of conviction and that's even if they didn't throw you and fine you for wasting the court's time.

3. Tinubu's daughter was next in line for that position so her ascendancy was automatic based on democratic norms and principle.

4. Unlike Patience Jonathan, Iyalojoa is a non governmental position and she was not appointed by the state and the state is not paying her salary. That was a crude and bogus analogy.

5. No rightful candidate was denied any position in favor of Tinubu's daughter so the only thing driving your bogus argument is the name Tinubu

You are free to speculate and hold on to your opinion, but please get over yourself and quit thinking people owe you any explanation or excuse.

Some people simply have no idea how prejudice against a name now makes them appear more similar to the ALUU lynch mob than to a reasonable, eduated and law-abidding person who knows when to give up and simply say "if you say so, as the stakeholder, then that is good enough for me".

Imagine this. The poster you responded to, i.e Mbulela, has a friend who went to jail. This Mbulela chap then goes around saying that the friend was sexually abused in prison because Mbulela's own personal prejudice and conviction makes him believe that this is what happens 100% to every male who is jailed.

The friend approaches Mbulela to tell him "respect me and stop spreading rumours. I was not sexually abused in prison even if that happened to others. Respect my testimony as the involved Party, stop the lies and let this go".

Mbulela goes away from that conversation only to carry on gleefully spreading malicious rumours over something he convinced himself happened , because of personal prejudice and nothing else, even as he was not present to witness what he claims happened and has no tangible proof whatsoever to validate his allegation. What does that make Mbulela? I know many words to describe such a person who will not respect involved stakeholders who say they are happy with the choice they made willingly. Many reasonable people know when to admit that their own personal suspicion and conviction cannot substitute what eye-witnesses and stakeholders insist is the official version of events.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 1:55am On Jul 08, 2013
Gbawe:
Shove your respect where the Sun does not shine abeg.
Is that the best you could come up with?
Try harder.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 1:59am On Jul 08, 2013
plaindealer:



3. Tinubu's daughter was next in line for that position so her ascendancy was automatic based on democratic norms and principle.

was she also the next in line as the President general of the market leaders association? As i understand that position is separate from that of the Iyaloja?
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 2:06am On Jul 08, 2013
plaindealer:



4. Unlike Patience Jonathan, Iyalojoa is a non governmental position and she was not appointed by the state and the state is not paying her salary. That was a crude and bogus analogy.
Absolutely nothing crude nor bogus about the analogy. Both are rooted in nepotism.Leveraging the common good for the benefit of kith and kin without regard for merit. you call the analogy crude because it does not suit your pre conceived conclusion.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by plaindealer: 2:31am On Jul 08, 2013
mbulela:
was she also the next in line as the President general of the market leaders association?
As i understand that position is separate from that of the Iyaloja?





"The market leaders of all the 57 local governments were there. The Babaloja of Lagos, Alhaji Wasiu (Balogun), was there. Everybody supported her," Basirat Balogun, Iyaloja of Oyingbo Market, told PREMIUM TIMES.

Mrs. Balogun, who is also the Market Leader, Lagos Mainland Local Government, said that the ceremonies that installed Mrs. Tinubu-Ojo as the new leader were held on Tuesday and Wednesday at her late grandmother's home at Ikeja.

Olubiyi Agoro, the Ojon of Lagos; and Soji Bembe, the Obanikoro of Lagos; were among the traditional chiefs that performed the rites.


Before her appointment, Mrs. Folashade Tinubu-Ojo was the Deputy President General of the Market Men and Women.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201307010385.html
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by plaindealer: 2:41am On Jul 08, 2013
mbulela:
Absolutely nothing crude nor bogus about the analogy. Both are rooted in nepotism.Leveraging the common good for the benefit of kith and kin without regard for merit. you call the analogy crude because it does not suit your pre conceived conclusion.



Call it what you want till you turn blue, it was a crude and ignorant analogy.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Olaone1: 6:00am On Jul 08, 2013
ACN: a crypto-dictatorial cult party tongue
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Olaone1: 6:04am On Jul 08, 2013
mbulela:
was she also the next in line as the President general of the market leaders association? As i understand that position is separate from that of the Iyaloja?
Abeg, no dull yourself.
Both positions were wuruwuru galore.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 7:20am On Jul 08, 2013
plaindealer:



Call it what you want till you turn blue, it was a crude and ignorant analogy.
That is your personal opinion.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Sanandreas10(m): 7:28am On Jul 08, 2013
Believe me HOnestly, If Fashola should be endeavour to Rule Nigeria..what do U think will happened....
8-) ;DBelieve me HOnestly, If Fashola should be endeavour to Rule Nigeria..what do U think will happened....
8-)
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by advocate007(m): 8:14am On Jul 08, 2013
I think femi Gbajiamila(minority leader, house of reps.) will do as a good successor of Fashola
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Gbawe: 8:44am On Jul 08, 2013
mbulela:
Is that the best you could come up with?
Try harder.

The very same reason you react senselessly and irrationally to the Tinubu name, to begin making baseless accusations, is why you called Igbokwe a liar to begin with.

Did Igbokwe speak on the personal Iyaloja ambition of Tinubu's daughter she is entitled to as an involved stakeholder? Of course he did not because he cannot !!!! He is not her spokesman. He is spokeman for the ACN and he commented to tell obstinate and unreasonable people like you that ACN/Tinubu is not involved in market affairs!!! You are the one who chose not to believe that !!!!

Furthermore, Igbokwe can't tell Tinubu's daughter what to do or what not to do in pursuit of her own personal ambition unrelated to his Party. Igbokwe can only tell you what his Party is involved in or not concerned with at all. Whether you believe him or not does not make him a liar.

In fact, every time you open your mouth to make baseless accusations, you are clearly disrespecting the many stakeholders who have told you that their business is an internal affair and that they, not Tinubu, chose the Iyaloja they wanted. If you cannot respect those stakeholders why would I expect or even want your respect? That is why I told you to shove such. You are too arrogant to see how disrespectful you are in relation to an issue you should just concede defeat over. You have your suspicion but stakeholders have come out to tell you your suspicion is wrong. They have told you they made their own choice willingly and freely. When do you then accept it is time to put down your baseball bats, machete et al and head on home instead of continuing your ALUU antics from thread to thread? Look below to see that it is your lack of refinement that now leaves you owing Igbokwe an apology for calling him a liar.

The man said the ACN is not involved with "installing" Tinubu's daughter as Iyaloja. He did not tell you that her fellow market stakeholders did not have the power, independence or right to do that if that is what they wanted. Your ALUU behaviour is just shameful. The only thing that would have justified you calling Igbokwe a liar is if you can prove you saw Igbokwe or any other ACN member actively concerning themselves with the affairs of the market folks. If you have a problem, take it to the the authorised individuals in the Market men/women board. Your continuous ranting over this business, and stalking others from thread to thread with such, is now embarrassing.

http://premiumtimesng.com/regional/139536-lagos-acn-denies-reports-of-tinubu-appointing-daughter-as-market-leader.html


Lagos ACN denies reports of Tinubu appointing daughter as market leader
Ben Ezeamalu
Published: June 24,2013

Former Lagos governor, Bola Tinubu
The ACN says its focus is on 2015 and not “market”.
The Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, has denied media reports that its national leader, Bola Tinubu, has appointed his daughter as successor to his recently deceased mother for the post of ‘Iyaloja’ of Lagos State.
Speaking to PREMIUM TIMES over the telephone, the party dismissed the reports as “rantings” of the opposition Peoples’ Democratic Party, PDP.
“The (ACN) leadership is not aware of it. It is not true and can never be true,” said Joe Igbokwe, spokesperson, Lagos ACN.
The Lagos PDP had issued a statement on Monday condemning the alleged plot to install Folashade Tinubu-Ojo to succeed her grandmother, the late Abibat Mogaji, as the new President General of market men and women in Lagos State.
In its statement signed by Taofik Gani, the Lagos PDP spokesperson, the party called on the former governor to rescind his decision, adding that Mr. Tinubu had planned to notify market leaders at his Ikoyi home on Tuesday.
“The much-touted democrat should allow the simple tenets of democracy to prevail in the selection of a new leader for the market women, more so as there is no cogent evidence that his nominee and daughter is a full-time market woman,” the PDP statement said.
The PDP even called on the state governor, Raji Fashola, asking him not to sit on the fence “at this auspicious time.”
The Lagos ACN, however, dismissed the statement as the handiwork of “an idle mind.”
“We don’t have time for that kind of thing. We are strategising for 2015 and they are talking about market,” Mr. Igbokwe said. “Who has interest in that kind of thing?”

Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Gbawe: 8:53am On Jul 08, 2013
advocate007: I think femi Gbajiamila(minority leader, house of reps.) will do as a good successor of Fashola

I think it is better for it to be someone closely involved with Fashola in Lagos than a legislator who is in Abuja most of the time and will have a lot to learn.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by jmaine: 9:17am On Jul 08, 2013
Tinubu won't be that silly to attempt a stunt in making his wife succeed Fashola . . . . E go too backfire .. . grin

So fellas relax on that front . . .
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Gbawe: 10:00am On Jul 08, 2013
jmaine: Tinubu won't be that silly to attempt a stunt in making his wife succeed Fashola . . . . E go too backfire .. . grin

So fellas relax on that front . . .

This is the bottom line. There are many others working closely with Fashola who are already up to speed with everything ongoing in the State. It would be hard to make a meritorious pitch for a Senator who works in Abuja and would need to learn so much.

The likes of Obafemi Hamzat, who is commissioner of works and infrastructure and very much like Fashola, enjoy good general support. If people wish to work themselves into a frenzy at the mention of "Tinubu" then so be it

Nonetheless, it must be mentioned that Lagos is 'loaded' with many fine administrators at the moment and , as you stated, it would backfire if the likes of Hamzat, directly involved and doing a good job as works and infrastructure commissioner, are ignored for less competent individuals. I genuinely believe the SW has gone past that stage. Regardless of what some think, Tinubu knows that Lagos is bigger than him.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/principalofficers.php?k=1534&ek=40

RESUME OF ENGR. DR. KADRI OBAFEMI HAMZAT



Dr. Kadri Obafemi Hamzat is a product of the University of Ibadan where he graduated with B.Sc. Honours, Second Class Upper Division in Agricultural Engineering (1986) and M.Sc. in Crop Processing Engineering (1988). He thereafter proceeded to the famous Silsoe College, Cranfield University, England where he obtained a Ph.D. in System Process Engineering in 1992. To his credit, he was the first student to complete his doctoral degree within three years in his Department at Cranfield. He also holds a certificate in Computer/Windows Programming (1995) of the Baruch College, City University of New York, USA.

A professional engineer, thorough-bred systems integrator, seasoned administrator and consummate manager of men and materials, Engr. Dr. Hamzat has had over two decades of work experience in diverse areas of engineering practice including project management, computer networking, enterprise system assessment, engineering system design and implementation. He has, during this period, held enviable positions in different world-class international organizations, including the following:

Human Resources Administration Case Manager, City of New York, USA, March 1993 – January 1996.
Adjunct Professor, College of New Rochelle, New York, USA – February 1995 – January 1997.
Associate Director, Desktop/System Support, RTP Consulting Services, New York, USA – Adjunct Professor, College of New Rochelle, New York, USA – January 1996 – June 1997.
Consultant on System and Infrastructural Upgrade, Citibank NA/Compaq Computer Services, New York, USA, June 1997 – September 1999.
Adjunct Professor, CTA Programme, Columbia University, New York, USA, September 1998 – June 2000.
Vice-President, Core Technology Support Group, Merrill Lynch Inc., New York, USA, October 1999– July 2002.
Senior Associate, PC Engineering, Morgan Stanley Inc., New York, USA, July 2002– March 2005.
CIO and Group Head, IT Strategy, Oando Plc., Lagos, Nigeria, March – July, 2005.


In recognition of his versatility and global experience in engineering practice and ICT development and deployment, Engr. Dr. Hamzat was appointed the Honourable Commissioner, Ministry of Science & Technology, Lagos State in August 2005, a position he held with distinction till June 2011. Thereafter, he was reappointed Honourable Commissioner for Works and Infrastructure by Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola Administration on the 4th of July, 2011. He is happily married and the union is blessed with children.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Aderostock(m): 12:58pm On Jul 08, 2013
Gbawe:

This is the bottom line. There are many others working closely with Fashola who are already up to speed with everything ongoing in the State. It would be hard to make a meritorious pitch for a Senator who works in Abuja and would need to learn so much.

The likes of Obafemi Hamzat, who is commissioner of works and infrastructure and very much like Fashola, enjoy good general support. If people wish to work themselves into a frenzy at the mention of "Tinubu" then so be it

Nonetheless, it must be mentioned that Lagos is 'loaded' with many fine administrators at the moment and , as you stated, it would backfire if the likes of Hamzat, directly involved and doing a good job as works and infrastructure commissioner, are ignored for less competent individuals. I genuinely believe the SW has gone past that stage. Regardless of what some think, Tinubu knows that Lagos is bigger than him.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/principalofficers.php?k=1534&ek=40

Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 1:15pm On Jul 08, 2013
Gbawe:
I genuinely believe the SW has gone past that stage. Regardless of what some think, Tinubu knows that Lagos is bigger than him.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/principalofficers.php?k=1534&ek=40

That he knows that Laogs is bigger than him is a matter of your personal opinion. There is no factto back that up. As a matter of fact,some people see trends to prove that he is growing bigger than the state and what he says goes,even in his party the ACN. What has Tinubu ever endorsed within the ACN that was refused on the altar of the majority in the name of democracy? The party seems to be a personal machinery for achieving his political and business interests. You all keep mouthing Obama's 'strong institutions and not strong men' mantra. Is this how our polity will develop strong democratic institutions? One where the Manor of Bordillion is the alpha and omega?
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by mbulela: 1:17pm On Jul 08, 2013
Gbawe:

The very same reason you react senselessly and irrationally to the Tinubu name, to begin making baseless accusations, is why you called Igbokwe a liar to begin with.

Did Igbokwe speak on the personal Iyaloja ambition of Tinubu's daughter she is entitled to as an involved stakeholder? Of course he did not because he cannot !!!! He is not her spokesman. He is spokeman for the ACN and he commented to tell obstinate and unreasonable people like you that ACN/Tinubu is not involved in market affairs!!! You are the one who chose not to believe that !!!!

Furthermore, Igbokwe can't tell Tinubu's daughter what to do or what not to do in pursuit of her own personal ambition unrelated to his Party. Igbokwe can only tell you what his Party is involved in or not concerned with at all. Whether you believe him or not does not make him a liar.

In fact, every time you open your mouth to make baseless accusations, you are clearly disrespecting the many stakeholders who have told you that their business is an internal affair and that they, not Tinubu, chose the Iyaloja they wanted. If you cannot respect those stakeholders why would I expect or even want your respect? That is why I told you to shove such. You are too arrogant to see how disrespectful you are in relation to an issue you should just concede defeat over. You have your suspicion but stakeholders have come out to tell you your suspicion is wrong. They have told you they made their own choice willingly and freely. When do you then accept it is time to put down your baseball bats, machete et al and head on home instead of continuing your ALUU antics from thread to thread? Look below to see that it is your lack of refinement that now leaves you owing Igbokwe an apology for calling him a liar.

The man said the ACN is not involved with "installing" Tinubu's daughter as Iyaloja. He did not tell you that her fellow market stakeholders did not have the power, independence or right to do that if that is what they wanted. Your ALUU behaviour is just shameful. The only thing that would have justified you calling Igbokwe a liar is if you can prove you saw Igbokwe or any other ACN member actively concerning themselves with the affairs of the market folks. If you have a problem, take it to the the authorised individuals in the Market men/women board. Your continuous ranting over this business, and stalking others from thread to thread with such, is now embarrassing.

http://premiumtimesng.com/regional/139536-lagos-acn-denies-reports-of-tinubu-appointing-daughter-as-market-leader.html


your efforts to justify the cheap insults you were hurling is commendable.
Well done but like i said, try harder next time.
Re: ACN Is Searching For Fashola’s Successor by Olaone1: 4:07pm On Jul 08, 2013
mbulela:
That he knows that Laogs is bigger than him is a matter of your personal opinion. There is no factto back that up. As a matter of fact,some people see trends to prove that he is growing bigger than the state and what he says goes,even in his party the ACN. What has Tinubu ever endorsed within the ACN that was refused on the altar of the majority in the name of democracy? The party seems to be a personal machinery for achieving his political and business interests. [size=26pt]You all keep mouthing Obama's 'strong institutions and not strong men' mantra. Is this how our polity will develop strong democratic institutions? One where the Manor of Bordillion is the alpha and omega?[/size]

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