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Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by kaposky(f): 1:47pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Leaders should learn how to lead in peace for the sake of their subjects. 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by 9jaIhail(m): 1:48pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Okukk: You have time for that learner? |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by DerideGull(m): 1:49pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X: Shymaxxx, My post never remotely sought to impugn the character of Wole Soyinka or contain iota of malignant on the erudition of the professor. Wole Soyinka is a well-informed elderly person and knows well enough that one-sided stack of weights on a boat can easily lead to capsize. What good does it do Nigeria when a caliber of Wole Soyinka woefully failed to convince multitude of ill-informed Nigerians that there are two sides to a coin? It is even worst that a reputable character such as Wole Soyinka has gone public with a political theme based on presumptuous machinations. Wole Soyinka can not attest to the fact he has been in a meeting with Patience Jonathan where she hatched the plan to create political crisis in Rivers State. If Patience Jonathan is hailed from a state other Rivers State, would Wole Soyinka accuse her of the genesis of political chaos in the state? 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Kassidy90(m): 1:50pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Una sure say na PEJ speak all those grammar abi she hire person speak am? |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by kolado(m): 1:53pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
X-factoria:Must he carry out any investigation before he knows?Every right-thinking nigerian knows PEJ was behind the fracas in River state.If you don't have anything to say you had better keep quiet.what a pity!Our youths that ought to be the mouthpiece are the sycophantic nincompoops blabbing trash around.Sense of responsibility is just too shallow. 3 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Myself2(m): 1:54pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
First of, @ OP is very dubious with the thread title as no where in the report was Soyinka as a person referred to as an embarrassment, but his one-sided biased assessment of the Saga Secondly Wole Soyinka over-stepped his bounds by calling PEJ unlady-like over the Rivers assembly brouhaha,when she was neither there on that day nor indeed a member of the house. IMO the response by PEJ's aide is too subtle,to me,an old man that refuses to behave and talk wisely must be told in stronger terms that he is out of line. If he thinks he has the right to air his view,let him at least be objective and fair,not abusive,in the same vein PEJ is entitled to defend herself and set the records straight. Infact I applaud her for issuing a response to Soyinka that is copiously civil. Soyinka should learn that nobody has the monopoly of a caustic tongue,this was how he tried to mess with that Warri boy Festus Keyamo,true to type,Keyamo would not have any of Soyinka's nonsense and promptly advised him to concentrate on writing twinkle twinkle little star poems rather than dabble into terrains he is ignorant about,I think he has forgotten that advice,someone needs to remind him ASAP 4 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
9ja_I_hail: However, did he address her by virtue of her position as being someone's housewife, or because she's the hand behind the crisis in Rivers state? Once she took off the garment of being someone's housewife into a wider role that involves 160 million people - then she opened herself up for attacks from every single one of those 160 million people. I know you're old enough to remember how the first republic was truncated. And you should know it started with something similar to this in the Western House of Assembly. Awolowo(AG) vs. Akintola + Ahmadu Bello + Zik. We all know how that ended with the civil war and how more than 3 million people died. However, someone is speaking out so as to avoid the same thing, yet you want to critique him? SMFDH. Anyway, When the shit hits the fan, your region might end up bearing the brunt again. Tribal logic don't pay, be a critical thinker. |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by tomakint: 1:56pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Fola Aribilola: Most of those dat comments on d above topic are too small to talk, infact d NL blog is becoming something else. How old are these NLanders talking any how to d Prof. , let me take d NL to memory lane do u know who is Prof. Wole Soyinka was in d '70s even during d military era of Gowon/ Muritala/ Obasanjo, how old was president GEJ n His wife then. For PDJ and her ants called PRO to talk to an elder state man of Prof. Soyinka, one who only talk on national issues in a critical moments. Enough is enough, pride comes before downfall Mr. President shld call his wife to order and all his praise singers otherwise God forbid let what befall Arab world not begin wt our dear country Nigeria between now and 2015. Africans have decorum and whosoever goes against it there is always a punishment for them. Even if elders are wrong its not proper for d younger ones to be abusive, civilisation/education doesn't erode african customs. So pls d Nairalanders shld thread wt caution. Have taking time to check d average age of most NLs they are 26.5yrs and so none in my own opinion av d political knowledge of ds country, hence let's be very careful d manner at which we express our opinions on blogs.Pocket your advice for yourself! In as much as I don't approve of Patience Jonathan's outburst against the Nobel Laureate, I am of the strong opinion that Prof. Wole Soyinka should have done a thorough investigation before lambasting Patience and by the way, why has he not said anything yet against the politics of bitterness Amaechi is playing in Rivers? While at it, are you aware that Amaechi is already cavorting with APC while still in PDP? I hope you know what that means? Prof Wole Soyinka as much as I still respect him should stay out of this if his comments is going to be one-sided |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Okukk: Scram!! Primitive people don't understand decency and civility - you've to scream at them. And that's the 21st century way of dealing with them. |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
DerideGull: The crux of the matter is that she's the hand behind everything. And what's shocking is that she wasn't elected by Nigerians, so how come she has that much power? Also, in this case, there's only one-side to the coin - the other side has been on the defensive throughout. And it's only right to call the offensive side to order before it consumes everyone, especially when the mastermind of the offense arrogated herself more powers than she ought to have. |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Myself2(m): 2:06pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
kolado: Must he carry out any investigation before he knows?Every right-thinking nigerian knows PEJ is behind the fracas in River state.If you don't have anything to say you had better keep quiet.what a pity!Our youths that ought to be the mouthpiece are the sycophantic nincompoops blabbing trash around.Sense of responsibility is just too shallow. You are the irresponsible sycophant here.So because Wole Soyinka has bushy beards,he is free to pass reckless,biased and irresponsible judgements in matters he knows next to nothing about? |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by sunny63(m): 2:11pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
tokunboh: I'm shocked at PEJ's audacity to take a swipe at Soyinka!.... This drama is really getting interesting and embarrasing...10k u 4 dt statement,may u live long 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by sunny63(m): 2:17pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Linoversace: Hippopo dun come again,why is she speaking through her spokesman?u r goat,u r embarrassment 2 ur parents |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by kliq(m): 2:18pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X:True dat....loyalty n respect is earned n not given....furthermore I wonder hw a man who can't even put his wife on check intend to rule a whole country effectively...it is well |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Joan's a$$ would be on fire if Nigerians were Egyptians. Even Maryam Abacha did perfectly well as ruthless as the husband was. PEJ needs a chill pill 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by 9jaIhail(m): 2:24pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X: This kid still not getting it.. I decided not to pay you more attention but you are tempting me with your fabricated junk histories which is NO NO NO NO... Akintola and Awolowo has nothing absolutely nothing to do with this.. The case of those men you mentioned to justify Prof Soyinka reckless public fight of shame with a married woman is a different case and different scenario. Was Patience Jonathan a member of rivers house of assembly, was she present where the said fracas took place? Listen son, you have lived in UK almost if not all the rest of your life. Can you point out where or when a prominent person in Wole sonyika figure organized a conference just to dis the Prime minister's wife publicly based on hearsay or assumption without facts? One thing is that GEJ is a kind and a man of tolerance if not wole sonyinka would have many cases to answer.Are you truly sure you know what it means to call GEJ family the first family of the nation. I am not saying we should not criticize them but can we learn how to be constructive and not to use every opportunity to speak in a manner to appear saint before the misguided 160million dump Nigerians. |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by DerideGull(m): 2:25pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X: If you and Wole Soyinka accuse Patience Jonathan of having the ears of her husband, it is socially, politically and intellectually understandable. However, it is plain silly to politically indict Patience Jonathan on wild and winded contravention. I guess some of her distracters would have been glad if Patience Jonathan is piled up in one corner of Aso Rock and ordered to remain incommunicado. Nigerians elected Patience Jonathan to the position of first lady by the virtue of electing her husband as President. In certain countries, mere social transgression of certain spouses can cause their partners a political office. 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by talk2s(m): 2:30pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Mek I hear word! Most of U on this forum are busy comparing Pat.Jonathan with Wole Soyinka, and passing your biased verdict that one is superior to the other. Who is the inferior human between them? For all of you who are in this category, which human being on earth possesses the monopoly of knowledge and wisdom? For your information, all forms and levels of knowledge, or its acquisition are relative. Besides, who told you that educational attainment is the best, or the only yardstick for assessment of homo serpiens in relations to their successes, achievements or well-livings? If Wole Soyinka was that high and mighty, why did he condescend so low to bandy words with a 'common' First Lady? If he had a thing to opine that could help Pat.Jonathan to adjust in behaviour or political stands, couldn't he have written to the Woman other than do so via a Press Conference? Many are asking today the offence of Ameachi, as if we've forgotten so soon that this same 'APC-Ameachi' threw caution, regard and respect to the wind and used different public foras to criticise and codemn certain of GEJ's policies, as though he couldn't do that in camera. When you have a 'perceived' ill feeling over your father's or elder brother's action, don't say so at home, wait untill members of the public are gathered before you confront him. HE WILL QUITE APPLAUDE YOU! |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
9ja_I_hail: Utter tosh! You have a big brain in your skull but it seems you're allergic to using. I don't know if you're feigning ignorance or you're just too bigoted to use your cognitive reasoning. If you don't know she's responsible for what's happening in River state, even after what the Bipi guy said on tape - then your brain cells should be exterminated for being absolutely useless. I'm from the UK and I don't even know what David Cameron's wife looks like. And that's because she's a housewife and she knows her role. However, your fat uneducated slob of a first lady's face is oversaturated. She isn't a housewife, she's a pig that needs to be thoroughly washed in public, that's the honest truth. History and the endgame shall be the judge. 4 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by khaleesi(f): 2:46pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Whether we deny it from now till tomorrow, the truth remains GEJ and his wife had a big role to play in the event that unfolded in Rivers State and I don't see were it became a crime for citizens to air their view on national issues like this one. Prof Wole only said what millions of Nigerians want to say bt don't ve the impact he possess. A govt should be ready to handle criticism calmly..not getting personal and lashing back like noone can talk to them..what I ve to say to Patience is this "stop running your mouth without control, we nigerians re nt fool, we know you re involved.. if u can't take the heat then get out of the Kitchen" 2 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
DerideGull: "Incommunicado" is the role of a first lady and a good housewife when it comes to political matters she wasn't elected to be part of. She isn't Hilary Clinton(she was a senator) and definitely not the Iron Lady, Lady Thatcher(she was elected as PM). Anyway, no one elected that woman - and she needs to go hide where the sun don't shine!! 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by emmydee(m): 2:48pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
My able people of Nairaland, we have argued on this topic exhaustively. The informants of Mrs. Jonathan should inform her to come on television to defend her actions & allegations that have cropped up especially on Nairaland. Not hiding under a spokesman or P.A. Trade officially CLOSED! |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:51pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Its clear the critical mass of impunity and lack of respect for common sense in addressing issues will soon be reached in Nigeria; this will be followed by the long awaited IMPLOSION! What do these upstarts and shameless apologists of GEJ / PEJ mean by saying that WS has no right to talk to Patience the way he talked about her? Remember, we can not all play the Ostrich & not all of us are boot-lickers. Meanwhile, some of these paid tribal hegemonists need to improve their English writing before they can ever hope to address Wole Soyinka through any medium ; even the faceless internet turf. 2 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by ssiaccenture(m): 2:51pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
well, a prof. should be be-careful about being a partisan in present government rather he should advice and stand aloof or shun siding. |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by ZACHIE: 2:55pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X:but for his acidic tongue Shymex would easily pass for the most intelligent poster on NL. I agree with him on this all the way. anyone who thinks Gej and wife are not involved in the goings on in Rivers State may as well believe the earth is flat. Pati is involved ib this dangerous trend that could easily spiral out of control. easily. let men of good conscience speak else evil replicate unabated. 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Oduduwaboy: Its clear the critical mass of impunity and lack of respect for common sense in addressing issues will soon be reached in Nigeria; this will be followed by the long awaited IMPLOSION! I like your handle, bro. You lot need to get out of that cesspit. Yoruba's shouldn't be in the same country with most of these people. Make it happen - your handle is the future. 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by EkoIle1: 2:57pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Poor Nigerians, they follishly voted for and elected Jonathan Oponuchukwu Abdul El Retardeen, but they not only got Jonathan Oponuchukwu Abdul El Retardeen, they got him x 2 with his dumb piece of shit Okrika illiterate wife. Talk about double jeopardy... smh.... 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by DerideGull(m): 2:57pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
ShyM-X: It will be nice to remind you that Hilary Clinton was not elected to any stump of a tree when her husband was President. In addition, Mrs. Thatcher’s husband was politically nobody. It is ridiculous to suggest such lame comparisons. Has Patience Jonathan tended any bill for consideration in NASS? 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
9ja_I_hail: In as much as i respect Prof. Soyinka, i do not agree with him insulting a married woman in public talk less of a wife of his president... Let me put tribe/ethnicity aside and call a spade a spade. I can assure anyone who cares to listen that, no sane married man on his right senses will support such careless statement credited to Prof.... An educated and activist like Prof whom many Nigerians look up to as their role model should be mindful of what proceed out his mouth.In what way did Wole Soyinka insult the wife of the President? Sometimes ago the United States' Congress questioned the source of the money the wife of Barrack Obama used in holidaying in Spain. I believe if you were in the Congress you would have called it racism. Put on your thinking cap. 2 Likes |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by ravensckar(m): 3:04pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
X-factoria:Mr Man,in ur quest to confuse us,u ended up convincing us of ur shallow reasoning n virile argument. 4 God's sake even a village idiot knows GEJ is trying so hard 2 victimize AMAECHI. read Doyin Okupe's vanguard interview n Kip ur stinking mouth shut ..... 1 Like |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by deb(m): 3:10pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
olayiwola-aims: I agree with you 100% Do some of them even know what it means to become a noble laureate? This is the only nation where mediocres are celebrated above intellectuals. And the same reason the nation may never grow |
Re: Soyinka Is An Embarrassment To His Admirers – Patience Jonathan by readonenaire(m): 3:18pm On Jul 13, 2013 |
Danhumprey: See who is talking! It's kinda like a case of pot calling kettle black. I think Wole Soyinka is right to some extent on this issue. He may have been one of those who canvassed for her husband to be President,but that doesn't mean he should overlook Presidential recklessness and arrogance as displayed by Patience Jonathan. |
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