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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by yiboboy: 8:17pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
Omo, like play like play, ona wan start civil war part 2 oooh! |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by amAZEing: 8:35pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
kettykin: Whom ever the gods want to kill they first make mad It wiill happen over nite abi |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by lastpage: 8:40pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
IGBO-SON: I dont know how old you are but even if you are underage (at least yo have access to the internet and you can type!), you should try and "READ-UP" on your history, instead of asking questions that make you appear silly. I will summarize it for you but l expect you to go back to your Library and CONFIRM whatever l have written: 1.) The Biafran war was initially between the Igbos (Easterners) and the Hausa/Fulani (Northerners). Igbos were killed in the North, there was Reprisals in the East just like Igbo Military guys killed Northern Military elites and Northerners retaliated... and so on. SO, Igbos wanted "out" 2.) At this stage, the Westerners have NOTHING to do with the war. Igbos tried to "DRAG US" into it, by asking for our support, to join them to fight the Northerners. It was coyed in form of a "We will declare secession and we want you to do the same, when we do ours". The reasoning was that the Northerners cannot afford to fight the war on two fronts. 3.) The Westerners, characteristically take "good stock" before engaging in any action (Read Wole Soyinka's quote about "Bravery not being in reckless actions and words".) They gave it a "second thought" and realized they were NOT PREPARED to FIGHT AND WIN A WAR RIGHT NOW. 4.) While the Yorubas were still bidding for time to "get prepared for a war" (Weapons and Logistics), the Igbos, in their Characteristic manner of boating, reckless bravado and self-over-exaggeration of ability, as a result of their inability to "critically self-examine" (something they termed as cowardice in Westerners/Yoruba) SIMPLY DECLARED SECESSION and that marks the beginning of the BIAFRAN WAR! They never consulted and sought approval of the Yorubas whom they expect to CO-OPT into WAR! Now, How this is the problem of Yorubas or how we caused them to Declare secession, is still a mystery. 5.) The war has been on for over 15months and the Westerners/Yorubas simply stood aside. Some Yorubas (like Col. Banjo, Wole Soyinka even gave "tacit support" to the Igbo cause because we sympathize with their victimisation (rightly or wrongly), in the North. 6.) Odumegwu Ojukwu, who as a personification of the Igbo war, wisdom and cause .... at one point felt he MUST FORCE THE YORUBAS into the war. We made him understand that "we feel we cannot win the war as we were NOT PREPARED FOR THE WAR. The mallams have control of all the important Garrisons, the armoured battalions even in Ibadan! Only a stupid man goes to war expecting his enemy to make things easy for him or provide him with weapons and support. 7.) As balanced as the war was at this point, Ojukwu, in his "infantile wisdom" was still adamant on forcing the hand of the Westerners into the war. OJUKWU HENCE DEVISED A STEWPID AND CLANDESTINE MOVE: HE STARTED ATTACKING THE WESTERN REGION! He crossed the Onitsha bridge and started waging war Southwards! He ransacked the Mid West (Benin and Delta regions), he looted, burned the remains and took our women hostage, raping and generally sowing mayhem. 8.) Awo sent message to him requesting that OJUKWU SHOULD DIRECT HIS WAR EFFORT NORTHWARDS as we will like to remain NEUTRAL. Ojukwu will hear nothing of this. 9.) AWOLOWO was using "WISDOM" while OJUKWU was using "RECKLESSNESS and BRAWN". One after another, Ojukwu ransacked Western Cities, Edo fell, Akure, Ondo town fell (undefended) until He got to Oore. This is when Awolowo reasoned that you cannot be attacking and killing my people, while you say we are friends. NOTE: Yorubas NEVER ATTACKED IGBOS. During the war up to this point, those who chose to remain in Lagos, were still well protected by their Lagos Host (infact, Lagos was a Federal capital so we considered them "one of us".) 10.) When Ojukwu will not listen to reason, and as typical of most Igbo (and you can see the same herd mentality over here), none of his brethrens were willing to tell him the truth; They chose to bury their heads in the sand. Awolowo was finally rumbled and roused from his patience and in a SINGLE DISPLAY of MASTERLY STROKE, he brought the Biafran Shenanigan to a HALT IN OORE! [b]Now, what would the average Igbo leader or person do (let us be honest to ourselves for once, we are still brothers), if your so-called friend is attacking you, killing your people and setting your house on fire, when you have done him no wrong? We did not wrong the Igbo, they attacked us, just to force us into a war we never wanted to be a part of. This is the part of "the War History" that Igbo fathers and grand fathers have refused to tell their children. They have tried to justify their stewpidty and treachery while blaming their fool-hardiness and consequent loss of the war on Yorubas. For christ sake, its a war, a 3year war we are talking about! In war, ALL IS FAIR!! Thats why its called a W-A-R-R-R So, if you must insult Awolowo for the action he took, you must also acknowledge his patience and reluctance to engage in war while at the same time, you have to salute his acumen and tactical approach at ending a war that had dragged on for over two years, in less than six months. That is the stuff Yorubas are made-of! No Gra-Gra, No mouthing, No chest-beating, No self-delusion, No grand-standing, ....Just meticulous planning and precise execution. Ojukwu and his military tacticians should have known better than to start a war they cant finish, expecting to force an ally's hand into war, wasting the lives of over two million Igbos in what essentially was a show of Gra-Gra ..and attacking the WEST! (Bad Move) [/b] Lastpage! BTW: The only reason l have gone to great lengths to expose and espouse this here is so that ignorant ones amongst you, whose parents lied to them about how they were almost conquering the whole world , ....can try and read-up their history, direct their anger/energy in the right direction and dont make the same mistake again. Also, remember that Fashola did NOT DEPORT ALL or ORDINARY IGBOS from Lagos, the minuscule quantity he deported (if true) are those who can be considered "Nuisance". No work, No Home, No education, No visible means of sustenance! I salute my Igbo Brothers! 7 Likes |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 9:11pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
lastpage: Interesting stuff. So ondo fell prey too? Hmmm... |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 9:42pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
Desola: Hi baby Desola, remember me? |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
omar22: Anini and Monday Osubor weren't igbos sorry try again. Before them, there was Dr. Ishola who is allegedly Nigerian father of armed robbery just like Soyinka is to cultism. @Post, I really hate contributing to the politics section. It is filled with sentiments and tribalism. What Lagos state government did is wrong. There are Lagos indigenous citizens without job, education or accommodation that are nuisance to Lagos residents. Where will they be shipped to? Just like it was wrong of Okorocha to do similar thing some time ago. Every Nigerian citizen regardless of tribe, gender, religion or social status has the right to live and thrive in any of the 36 states in Nigeria. If a Nigerian citizen can only live in his/her indigenous place in peace, is it not sensible for Nigeria to secede. PS; if Nigeria can have the spirit of unity, the igbos will make good scientists, Yorubas good in medicine, Hausa's farmers, Fulani's good veterans, ethnic groups from edo will make good car racers/ marksman(Anini and Monday comes to mind). Nigeria's greatness lies in the over 250 ethnic groups in it. Each group is unique and has something tangible to contribute if only all can look past ethnic sentiments and feeling of self importance. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 10:02pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
lastpage: Well, you tried with your write up if I must be truthful. I know that we made some serious mistakes during the war especially not planning well before declaring Biafra and invading the west but I wonder why you guys allowed the northerners to take over military apparatus in the west. We do not want another war because war is not good for anyone but trust me, we have taken time to analyze the war to ensure the same mistakes would not be repeated. A well armed Igbo side can drive the Fulani into Chad and they know it. We are proud of our resilience and heart of steel. Really we do not hate Yorubas and sometimes I wonder why all this tension between us. Truth be told, you guys have been very accommodating and hospitable. As for deportations, I really don't know what to say but that something must be done about people who contribute nothing to the state in as much as law-abiding citizens are not disturbed. This should be looked at nationally. Yorubas, I they salute O, ONE LOVE! 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Malawian(m): 10:16pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
so my 10 days ban is over? sexkillz, i don keep you in view now. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 10:58pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
Eko ile or iragbeji ile does not and will never speak for lagosians. Even his boss Tinubu is not a Lagosian Lagosians and yorubas in general are not tribalistic. We lagosians love Igbos and other Nigerians without being bias. Now let me some statements here 1. There are true indigenes of Lagos state and we are still Alive in number. In fact 50-60% of yorubas you see in Lagos are true Lagosians (undiluted blood) and I am one of them and we have them here on Nairaland as well. 2. Lagos is a yoruba state which is under Nigeria thus the culture and setting of the state is yoruba. Egun, Awori, Ijebu and Egbas are yorubas. I am half Awori and Egun myself and my name is yoruba, I speak yoruba, I dress Yoruba and I would always be associated with yoruba. Not only myself but the whole state. 3. This does not mean there is any discrimination against non-indigenes such as the Igbos. It is wrong and that is not what Fashola is trying to do. Fashola has nothing against Igbos 4. Lagos is not operating as a different country so there is no citizenship so to put it. Everyone can trace their root back to their village. What I mean is that even if you are the third generation lagosian, it does not make you an indigene. You can and will be sent packing once this country split unless the traditional laws are changed. With all that said, we are all brothers so lets enjoy this country while it last. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 11:22pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
alj harem: Eko ile or iragbeji ile does not and will never speakso all the yorubas threatening fire and brimstones on igbos on this forum are not lagosians? o ma ga fun awon eyan! |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 11:29pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
berem: so all the yorubas threatening fire and brimstones on igbos on this forum are not lagosians? o ma ga fun awon eyan!some are like desola. Likes of Samesir, Isale gan, 9ja something, Symex and co are lagosians too. In reality NL is just a joke We just hurt each other for some reason I don't even know |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 11:48pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
Moderators, any reason why my post was hidden? Was it that I stated my dislike for the ibo people or that I asserted that isale gan is ibo or that harem's heritage has not been ascertained? |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 12:08am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Baby Desola, I wz trying to say "Hi" |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 12:11am On Jul 27, 2013 |
ALTRUTH: Baby Desola, I wz trying to say "Hi" Do I look like nkechi to you? Please face eastward Abeg. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 12:15am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola: mmmm. Dat is too harsh na, how u dey? |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 12:22am On Jul 27, 2013 |
ALTRUTH: Sorry but I try not to fraternise with people from your part of the niger I trust that you do not mind. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by willibounce: 12:24am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Ummmm! Orishirishi. MR fashola abeg no forget to pursue agbero o. Them dey disturb us too much. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 12:28am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola:why |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 12:30am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola: Pls may I knw why? Things r nt d way u think. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by plaindealer: 12:34am On Jul 27, 2013 |
alj harem: Eko ile or iragbeji ile does not and will never speak for lagosians. Even his boss Tinubu is not a Lagosian You are free to state your personal opinion, but it's cowardly to rope into your flawed opinion other people's name. You are nobody's spokesman so speak for yourself only... 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 12:35am On Jul 27, 2013 |
alj harem: why They grate on me so much and keep infiltrating my land all in the name of one niforkingeria! Loudmouthed and Ill wishing enemies. I just cannot stand them! I wish Fashola would remove them all. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Katsumoto: 12:43am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola: Desola, There are some lovely Igbo folks out there. Please don't judge them all because of the actions of some loudmouths. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 12:43am On Jul 27, 2013 |
plaindealer:so are likes of eko ile and co. You cannot try to paint a picture here whereas it is a lie. You make it seem like Yorubas hate Igbos and that is false which you know. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 12:45am On Jul 27, 2013 |
[quote author=Desola] They grate on me so much and keep infiltrating my land all in the name of one niforkingeria! Loudmouthed and Ill wishing enemies. I just cannot stand them! I wish Fashola would remove them all.[/quote] We are nt ur enemies. U want Fashola to send me away too? Why na? Forget all dis bigotry here, if u get to meet me u wont even want me to leave u again. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 12:45am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola: Yeah at times I wish the same but at the end of the day, tolerance is all that matters. Actually some of us have family members that are Igbos so what do we do ? (Although they know their place in terms of the discussion here). |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by aljharem(m): 12:46am On Jul 27, 2013 |
ALTRUTH: |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 1:04am On Jul 27, 2013 |
ALTRUTH: make sure she bathed first dalu o. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 1:08am On Jul 27, 2013 |
alj harem: Good for you! When Nigeria breaks, don't forget to head eastward with your family as no omo ale would be allowed. But then again, you are Hausa so you can do as you wish with them 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Desola(f): 1:09am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Really? Well, all the best. I don't like them. |
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by ALTRUTH(m): 1:15am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Desola: But I like u so mch so how do we do it? |
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