Mr Aboki: Hahahahahaaaa...


ATTEMPTED MURDER!!! Who the fvck is the Police Lawyer?! How can you charge him with attempted murder?! Are they intentionally trying not to win the case?! You cant charge hin with attempted murder, because you cant prove that he was trying to kill him..

Conspiracy?! Like seriously?! When did he conspire?! My god! The Nigerian police force are really good for nothing more than to train Nama.


This just goes to show you how stupid the Nigerian Police truly are.. Even I sitting here could have easily told them that the 'attempted murder' charge can never stick. Neither the conspiracy charge. Rather charge him with 'Assault with a 'potentially' deadly weapon' or 'Maliciuos assault'.. Thats all they can do. And this is not a crime but a misdemeanor.

_{AMAECHI WINS!!! AGAIN!!}

theoctopus: There is nothing like legislative immunity for Nigerian legislators. The only protection for legislators is protection from libel for things they say in their discussions within the chamber. Only Nigerian presidents and governors have immunity. Most of you ACN supporters here on NL are not only childish, but you are very stup1d too. And there is no way a court will throw a case out in the first day of sitting. The first day will actually be spent soliciting for things like bail for the defendant.

All of you ACN kids on NL make PDP look so good. Your attitude, tribalism and hypocrisy will actually help to deliver 2015 to PDP. If this is what ACN has sent you guys out to do, then they are very stup1d too.

Mr Aboki: Hahahahahaaaa...


ATTEMPTED MURDER!!! Who the fvck is the Police Lawyer?! How can you charge him with attempted murder?! Are they intentionally trying not to win the case?! You cant charge hin with attempted murder, because you cant prove that he was trying to kill him..

Conspiracy?! Like seriously?! When did he conspire?! My god! The Nigerian police force are really good for nothing more than to train Nama.


This just goes to show you how stupid the Nigerian Police truly are.. Even I sitting here could have easily told them that the 'attempted murder' charge can never stick. Neither the conspiracy charge. Rather charge him with 'Assault with a 'potentially' deadly weapon' or 'Maliciuos assault'.. Thats all they can do. And this is not a crime but a misdemeanor.

_{AMAECHI WINS!!! AGAIN!!}

theoctopus:

The problem with NL is that you have very ignorant people like you making comments like they know what they are talking about. That video will deliver a case of premeditated attempted murder anywhere in the world. It is such an easy case for the police. The part where they held the man down and Chidi Llyod raised his mace and brought it down will deliver a case of premeditated attempted murder against everyone in that scene. Your ignorant comments on NL cannot change that.

On another note, it is very shameful that you are trying to defend such an act. Your political inclination should never make you defend such an act. When you do that, you negate every right you have to call for equity and justice for any other event or person. Defending evil just because it soothes your political leaning is the bane of a failed society.

jude33084:

The ACN Children on Nairaland are even more matured than you are

Calling them fools and stupid makes them looks good

otokx: Amaechi wins yet again - Port Harcourt first son.

ocelot2006:

Care to explain how Amaechi won this one, when one of his staunchiest supporters, Chidi Lloyd, just got arrested?

Mr Aboki:


Hahahahaaaa..

Another dumb fvck who thinks calling others ignorant makes his point more intelligible than others..

First of all, let me test your intelligence and ask you a simple basic LAW 101 question; What are the factors that must be present for somebody to be charged with murder (attempted murder).

theoctopus:

The problem with NL is that you have very ignorant people like you making comments like they know what they are talking about. That video will deliver a case of premeditated attempted murder anywhere in the world. It is such an easy case for the police. The part where they held the man down and Chidi Llyod raised his mace and brought it down will deliver a case of premeditated attempted murder against everyone in that scene. Your ignorant comments on NL cannot change that.

On another note, it is very shameful that you are trying to defend such an act. Your political inclination should never make you defend such an act. When you do that, you negate every right you have to call for equity and justice for any other event or person. Defending evil just because it soothes your political leaning is the bane of a failed society.

jude33084:



Use your head and not your whatever? Read again what he said


if you charge CL with murder and conspiracy to murder you will loose the case I can bet you on that


That video isnt enough to prove a murder case my guy.





Have followed a court proceeding before?

Mr Aboki: Hahahahahaaaa...


ATTEMPTED MURDER!!! Who the fvck is the Police Lawyer?! How can you charge him with attempted murder?! Are they intentionally trying not to win the case?! You cant charge hin with attempted murder, because you cant prove that he was trying to kill him..

Conspiracy?! Like seriously?! When did he conspire?! My god! The Nigerian police force are really good for nothing more than to train Nama.


This just goes to show you how stupid the Nigerian Police truly are.. Even I sitting here could have easily told them that the 'attempted murder' charge can never stick. Neither the conspiracy charge. Rather charge him with 'Assault with a 'potentially' deadly weapon' or 'Maliciuos assault'.. Thats all they can do. And this is not a crime but a misdemeanor.

_{AMAECHI WINS!!! AGAIN!!}

jude33084:


We have been with nairaland since 2008 bro and have seen people in this useless country do worst and walk free



In another 4 week or more the whole country will forget about it and look for another story to masturbate on


Is the girl child noise not over now?



Can you still remember the Aluu 4?














Nigerians, we are the problem of ourselves

Mr Aboki:


Looking at the charges brought against Chidi lloyd, its very obvious that Amaechi is about to win. That is assuming that the law is allowed to take its course without interferance or favor..

theoctopus:

Let me give you the benefit of doubt and engage you. The most important factors in attempted murder are
1. Motive and
2. That the action is capable of causing death.

That video delivers that on a platter of Gold.

Just to add that attempted murder is not the only charge that will be on the charge sheet.

ocelot2006:

We all saw the video were Lloyd was busy bludgeoning the head of his fellow lawmaker, not once, not twice. Ever heard of the phrase "blunt force trauma"? Or were you expecting the victim to die on the spot before Lloyd is charged with ATTEpTED murder?

Btw, how did Amaechi win this one, when one of his staunchiest supporters in the state, Lloyd, is in police custody and facing jail time

jude33084:


was there any motive prior to that event that CL have to kill him?

Even if the monster CL must be jailed the police should not organize his escape route

ocelot2006:

How's he going to win there's a video in circulation that captures Lloyd red-handed in the act? Care to explain?

jude33084:

If you charge me with a theft of say N30,000 and the judgement will be base on that premise

but if the judge now discover that it was not N30,000 but N2,000 that I stole; bro you have lost that case I tell


Justice is blind, it is what you can prove in court that will make the case.

theoctopus:

Again, you expose your ignorance. Have you ever heard the term multiple count charge? Do you even know you can be acquitted of some charges and found guilty of others and punished accordingly? dont argue stuff like you know what you are saying when you obviously dont. If you are a law student, you should go back and read your books again. You cant graduate with this kind of knowledge except by blocking.

jude33084:


Oh yes! he can be guilty of the others, base on that you are right but not ATTEMPTED MURDER OR CONSPIRACY TO MURDER

theoctopus:

I am right in everything I posted including your age bracket. Stop making a fool of yourself joor. It isnt funny.

Mr Aboki: [b]Reasobns why a case for attempted murder cannot stick;

1. For murder to be the case, two components must be present;

- The Mens Rea: In criminal law, it is viewed as one of the necessary elements of some crimes. The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed in the Latin phrase, actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means "the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty".

- The Actus Rea: Sometimes called the external element or the objective element of a crime, is the Latin term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt in combination with the mens rea, "guilty mind", produces criminal liability in the common law-based criminal law jurisdictions

Now we can say we have the latter, but proving the former would be extremely tough. All you keep shouting is 'The video'. Well.. How can you prove beyond reasonable doubt that 'Chidi lloyd conspired to kill Ihunwo with a mace'?!

Remember:

The mace was a weapon of chance. Chidi came into that hall empty handed and only grabbed that mace because it was the nearest weapon he could find. If it were not there, he would either have attacked them with his fist or with a computer or a camera stand or any other weapon of chance he could spot. This in itself removes the 'Mens Rea' which is necessary for murder to occur.. Even if Ihunwo had died from the Mace blows, the highest Chidi can be charged with would have been 'Manslaughter'.

This is the law not 'emotions'.. [/b]

theoctopus:

I can almost bet my car that you like Okija, are less than 27 years and you are here claiming that you know anything about the law. laughable

Mr Aboki: [b]Reasobns why a case for attempted murder cannot stick;

1. For murder to be the case, two components must be present;

- The Mens Rea: In criminal law, it is viewed as one of the necessary elements of some crimes. The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed in the Latin phrase, actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means "the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty".

- The Actus Rea: Sometimes called the external element or the objective element of a crime, is the Latin term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt in combination with the mens rea, "guilty mind", produces criminal liability in the common law-based criminal law jurisdictions

Now we can say we have the latter, but proving the former would be extremely tough. All you keep shouting is 'The video'. Well.. How can you prove beyond reasonable doubt that 'Chidi lloyd conspired to kill Ihunwo with a mace'?!

Remember:

The mace was a weapon of chance. Chidi came into that hall empty handed and only grabbed that mace because it was the nearest weapon he could find. If it were not there, he would either have attacked them with his fist or with a computer or a camera stand or any other weapon of chance he could spot. This in itself removes the 'Mens Rea' which is necessary for murder to occur.. Even if Ihunwo had died from the Mace blows, the highest Chidi can be charged with would have been 'Manslaughter'.

This is the law not 'emotions'.. [/b]

Mr Aboki:

Dude!!

If you are indeed older than 27, then I suggest you hide your head in shame because I am schooling you in things that you should have known at age 22.

I have over 8 lawyers in my extended family, 1 judge. My mother is a lawyer, my mother in law is a lawyer and my wife is guess what?!! A LAWYER!! So I think I should have a fair idea of what I am talking about.

theoctopus:

This is the most hillarious thing I have seen this morning. You took over 25 minutes to go to wikipedia and came back with a copy of whatever you found there, pasted it here and you think it actually supports your point? You must be a good comedian. Try harder bro. You dont even know the meaning of what you pasted there, believe me

Im sure say na your type for don sentence Zimmerman to death for their palour..

Yeah!! I lifeted the darn definition off of wikipedia, but that doesnt make it any less true. In law, cases are not solved based on 'emotions' but certain laid down laws.

Your real problem is a limited mindset.. Chack out this scenario;

Chidi lloyd rushes into that hall empty handed as he was, grabbed ihunwo, pins hin to the ground and rains down punches on his face and causes the exact same damage he did to ihunwo with the mace, would you still be shouting 'Attempted murder'?! I doubt it. Stop focusing on the mace my child.. Look at the broader picture..

Now if Chidi Lloyd had grabbed a stick from outside and walked into that hall with it and proceeded to attack Ihunwo with that stick, then you have a solid basis to claim 'Mens rea' and thus attempted murder based on the 'actus rea'.

If you cant prove intent, then you have no case for murder.