mazaje:

That is what the koran tells you and you simply believe it. . .According to the bible he was crucified. . .Your only evidence to show that Jesus was not crucified is the koran and the evidence the christian have is the bible. . .Book are religious book of faith. . .Stop talking about facts because it is not a fact that Jesus was not crucified. . .



According to Al-Jazeerah’s interview with Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani, the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity.

Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity. Al-Jazeerah has since removed the interview and details.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo

You are quick to believe this UNVERIFIABLE hoax because it support your claim right? Yet you are looking for VIDEO EVIDENCE of Prophet Muhammad's revelation which took place 1400 years ago? Meanwhile the “Sheikh” even said the 6 million muslims are from Africa alone! Where are they? Why is the story not reported in any other reliable media outlet? Even if he really had the Al Jazeera interview, how did he arrive at that figure?
MEANWHILE ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION GLOBALLY.

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.
I will just mention a few of them.
“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102)
Now compare your 6-million-muslim-hoax to what Guiness World Records stated in the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 MILLION MORE PEOPLE CONVERTED TO ISLAM THAN TO CHRISTIANITY!

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life,”
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD /9704/14/egypt.islam/

The Islamization of Europe: the moral vacuum of abortion and the population vacuum
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/maguire/101231

Islam spreading in Christian SouthAfrica
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=620805&section=news

Mohammed's religion finds a place in Haiti
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/06/13/haiti.islam.reut/index.html

Rwanda Turns to Islam After Genocide
http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20021107&Category=API&ArtNo=211070870&Ref=AR

Islam to become 2nd largest faith practised in US
http://www.timesofindia.com/today/12amrc7.htm

Islam 'will be dominant UK religion'
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=76212&Sn=BNEW

The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-fastest-growing-religion-in-america-is-islam

Survey shows Muslim population is fastest growing religion in Canada
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/08/survey-shows-muslim-population-is-fastest-growing-religion-in-canada

Islam: Fastest-Growing Religion in Britain
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3500/islam-growing-religion-britain

LiveLeak.com -ISLAM: The Fastest Growing Religionin the World
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=750_1371003297
etc. .etc it's all over the world! The Global muslim population growth rate (1.5%) is twice that of the entire non-muslims (0.7) according to the report by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. (http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/). In less than 10yrs time Islam will overtake Christianity as the largest religion even though Christianity had been well established 600yrs before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Allah did make this promise when perhaps there were only a few hundred muslims in the Desert of Arabia.

“It is He who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikeen (Polytheists, Pagans, disbelievers in the oneness of Allah) hate (it).” Quran 9:36

Isn't that in itself an indication for the truth of Islam? Had it been your 6-million-muslim-hoax is true then the title of this thread would have been “Why Do So Many Muslims Convert To Christianity? ” Show us the video evidence of the 6 million muslims!

^^^ you had no such evidence either but it didn't stop you trying to hoodwink with your bogus argument. yet you're trying to hold me to an impossible standard: you want 1400 year old video recording...SMH


....but come to think of it, maybe he meant 6 million pagan. that I can believe.

F00028: ^^^ you had no such evidence either but it didn't stop you trying to hoodwink with your bogus argument. yet you're trying to hold me to an impossible standard: you want 1400 year old video recording...SMH


....but come to think of it, maybe he meant 6 million pagan. that I can believe.

Ever heard of the statement that extra ordinary claims requiring extra ordinary evidence?. . .You claim is extra ordinary, saying that the creator of the universe wrote a book is an extra ordinary claim and you need to back it up with extra ordinary evidence. . .If the creator of the universe will ever write a book and will want any body to know about it then every body will be born naturally with the knowledge of the book, he won't reveal it to some arabic man in some cave. . .The islamic story remains a story and that is it..no evidence nothing at all, just them say them say. . .

I tried saving the simpleton from self humiliation but he would not listen.

vedaxcool: I tried saving the simpleton from self humiliation but he would not listen.

You believe that some pedophi[i]l[/i]e who went about lying that some imaginary angel told him to recite lies and jargons is the last prophet of some imaginary deity and you call others simpleton, eh?. . .Simple ton indeed. . .You believe one story without evidence but castigate others for also believing another story. . .Ask them to provide evidence that any story about Jesus written in the koran is true that's when they will begin to star blabbing. . .deluded goons. . .

vedaxcool: I tried saving the simpleton from self humiliation but he would not listen.

Wow couldnot have wriite it any better.

vedaxcool: I tried saving the simpleton from self humiliation but he would not listen.

Wow couldnot have write it any better.

Zarian5:

You are quick to believe this UNVERIFIABLE hoax because it support your claim right? Yet you are looking for VIDEO EVIDENCE of Prophet Muhammad's revelation which took place 1400 years ago? Meanwhile the “Sheikh” even said the 6 million muslims are from Africa alone! Where are they? Why is the story not reported in any other reliable media outlet? Even if he really had the Al Jazeera interview, how did he arrive at that figure?
MEANWHILE ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION GLOBALLY.

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.
I will just mention a few of them.
“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102)
Now compare your 6-million-muslim-hoax to what Guiness World Records stated in the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 MILLION MORE PEOPLE CONVERTED TO ISLAM THAN TO CHRISTIANITY!

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life,”
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD /9704/14/egypt.islam/

The Islamization of Europe: the moral vacuum of abortion and the population vacuum
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/maguire/101231

Islam spreading in Christian SouthAfrica
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=620805&section=news

Mohammed's religion finds a place in Haiti
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/06/13/haiti.islam.reut/index.html

Rwanda Turns to Islam After Genocide
http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20021107&Category=API&ArtNo=211070870&Ref=AR

Islam to become 2nd largest faith practised in US
http://www.timesofindia.com/today/12amrc7.htm

Islam 'will be dominant UK religion'
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=76212&Sn=BNEW

The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-fastest-growing-religion-in-america-is-islam

Survey shows Muslim population is fastest growing religion in Canada
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/08/survey-shows-muslim-population-is-fastest-growing-religion-in-canada

Islam: Fastest-Growing Religion in Britain
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3500/islam-growing-religion-britain

LiveLeak.com -ISLAM: The Fastest Growing Religionin the World
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=750_1371003297
etc. .etc it's all over the world! The Global muslim population growth rate (1.5%) is twice that of the entire non-muslims (0.7) according to the report by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. (http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/). In less than 10yrs time Islam will overtake Christianity as the largest religion even though Christianity had been well established 600yrs before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Allah did make this promise when perhaps there were only a few hundred muslims in the Desert of Arabia.

“It is He who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikeen (Polytheists, Pagans, disbelievers in the oneness of Allah) hate (it).” Quran 9:36

Isn't that in itself an indication for the truth of Islam? Had it been your 6-million-muslim-hoax is true then the title of this thread would have been “Why Do So Many Muslims Convert To Christianity? ” Show us the video evidence of the 6 million muslims!

Hope you know that the guy that made the report is a muslim. . .Seocondly a research by a Muslims scholar whose name is Prof IIyas Ba Yunus was conducted in the US and it found out that 70 percent of converts to islam leave islam after a few years. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8EC8-aVlrE

Zarian5:

Yes, you are wrong. Actually both Moses and Jesus prophecy the coming of Muhammad. Click and download this (pdf) book, 'Muhammad in the Bible' written by Prof. Abdul Ahad Dawud, Former Bishop of Uramiah, Formerly the Reverend David Benjamin Keldani, B.D.

http://www.islamhouse.com/401819/en/en/books/Muhammad_(Peace_Be_Upon_Him)_In_The_Bible

It is a satanic stronghold for somebody to be decieving himself in order to decieve others.

The only way out is to realise that you are truly decieving yourself. When a mad man realises that he was insane,then he has regained his senses.

What is d need for the above preamble?
The answers is that most muslims, who claim that muhammed was who Jesus Christ said he would send to the apostles as a comforter,are decieving themselves and no body else. Except those who cannot read and write.

This is the Biblical reference:

John 14:13-17, 26 KJV
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. [14] If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. [15] If ye love me, keep my commandments. [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; [17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. [26] But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Let us analyse the above Biblical verses.

According to Merriam webster dictionary, a Comforter is:
---Holy Spirit.
---One that gives comfort.

Was mohammed a comforter, with all d killings and wars he engaged in,which Jesus never had.

ANOTHER .
It means , something having d same attributes as the former.
Jesus told us that if someone slaps us,we should not revenge. Did muhammed say the same?
Jesus said we should not divorce our wife,but mohammed said Allah told him to marry the wife of Zaid,his adopted son,when Zaid has divorced his wife.
Jesus did not marry,Muhammed did.
Jesus performed and healed,muhammed did not.
Jesus said he is the Son of God,muhammed said Jesus was not the son of God. etc.Muhammed does not qualify to be called "another"of Jesus.

HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER.
Is muhammed still living.It is only a spirit being that does not die. Muhammed died through food poisonning.

EVEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. Is muhammed a spirit.

WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE,because IT SEETH HIM NOT.
Was muhammed not accepted by the Arabs? Was muhammed invisible when he was alive?

BUT YE KNOW HIM ;FOR HE DWELLETH WITH YOU.
Muhammed was not born as at then. How could he have been dwelling with the apostles?
Matt 3:16 tells us that the Holy Spirit came upon Jesus.So ,the Holy Spirit was in the world as at then,but not living inside any human being born of a woman.

AND SHALL BE IN YOU. Means the Holy Spirit is going to be living inside them later on after d death of Jeaus.
Is mohammed living inside anybody right now? The bible says in 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 KJV
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
It is only a spirit that can live inside a human being and not a grown up human being like muhammed.

Even when I was a muslim, I was told the same lie,but when the Jehovah Witness showed me where it is written and I read, I knew that it was definitely not talking about muhammed. And I thank God Almighty for the revelations he gave me after , because He knew the sincerity of my heart.

Pls do not assume you know everything about Islam,just pray.

eni: ]

AND SHALL BE IN YOU. Means the Holy Spirit is going to be living inside them later on after d death of Jeaus.
Is mohammed living inside anybody right now? The bible says in 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 KJV
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
It is only a spirit that can live inside a human being and not a grown up human being like muhammed.

Even when I was a muslim, I was told the same lie,but when the Jehovah Witness showed me where it is written and I read, I knew that it was definitely not talking about muhammed. And I thank God Almighty for the revelations he gave me after , because He knew the sincerity of my heart.

Pls do not assume you know everything about Islam,just pray.

the funny thing here is since the holy ghost dwell in the disciples who died one after the other it follows that the ghost dwelling iou n them followed them to the graves which invalidates the prophesy which says it will dwell with them forever, since u claim Jesus was addressing his disciples.

Simple ? Is mohammed a spirit and can a spirit die my muslim brothers.simple ?

vedaxcool:

the funny thing here is since the holy ghost dwell in the disciples who died one after the other it follows that the ghost dwelling iou n them followed them to the graves which invalidates the prophesy which says it will dwell with them forever, since u claim Jesus was addressing his disciples.

When a living person dies,it is the physical body that is buried in the grave and not the spirit of the man.
The spirit of the person will return to his Creator.

A spirit cannot be buried in the grave because it is invisible.

The disciples were not dead spiritually.Their souls did not go to hell.
Physical death is not a real death. The real death is second death after judgement.

John 11:25-26 KJV
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

The works of the Holy Spirit in the lives of the beleivers are :to minister to the beleiver, to teach him ,give him power to heal and perform miracles,to prophecy,to reveal secretes which are not know to the beleiver etc.
When such believer dies,the work of the Holy Spirit ends in the person's life,but the Holy Spirit continues to dwell in the world till the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God is the God of the living and not the God of the dead,likewise His Holy Spirit.

vedaxcool:

the funny thing here is since the holy ghost dwell in the disciples who died one after the other it follows that the ghost dwelling iou n them followed them to the graves which invalidates the prophesy which says it will dwell with them forever, since u claim Jesus was addressing his disciples.

What can I call this your question? Infact a two years old boy can't ask such question of yours and anyone who believe a two years old can ask such question then, no different between both.

Will your spirit follow you to grave according to Islam teaching?


Is even better for Muslims not to quote from Bible at all because than the mess they put themselves into.

enilove:


When a living person dies,it is the physical body that is buried in the grave and no the spirit of the man.
The spirit of the person will return to his Creator.

A spirit cannot be buried in the grave because it is invisible.

The disciples were not dead spiritually.Their souls did not go to hell.
Physical death is not a real death. The real death is second death after judgement.

John 11:25-26 KJV
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

The works of the Holy Spirit in the lives of the beleivers are :to minister to the beleiver, to teach him ,give him power to heal and perform miracles,to prophecy,to reveal secretes which are not know to the beleiver etc.
When such believer dies,the work of the Holy Spirit ends in the person's life,but the Holy Spirit continues to dwell in the world till the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God is the God of the living and not the God of the dead,likewise His Holy Spirit.

U seem to contradict yourself

AND SHALL BE IN YOU. Means the Holy Spirit is going to be living inside them later on after d death of Jeaus.

Clearly u r indicating in this statement that Jesus is referring to his disciples hence since they died his prophecy stands false , you attempt to spin this contradiction can be replicated by we Muslims, but lemme compound your problem a bit, was Jesus expecting his disiples for ever ? Since he declared it will abide with them forever addressing his disciples?

Emusan:

What can I call this your question? Infact a two years old boy can't ask such question of yours and anyone who believe a two years old can ask such question then, no different between both.

Will your spirit follow you to grave according to Islam teaching?


Is even better for Muslims not to quote from Bible at all because than the mess they put themselves into.

If your Bible says things that r strange blame it rather than me.

According to Jesus spirit could mean prophet


Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


1 john 4 :1

F00028:


YOU say he was crucified. YOU say he cried to God on the cross...and "Alah" is the aramaic word for "God".

allah might be aramaic world for god but the true is that there are many fake gods. Those that are worshiping Idols would not call it idol but god . If buddhist are talking about the idol they worshiped, they would not call it idol.They will called him god .Does that make it thesame with Muslim's Allah? No, but they make it equivalent to other riligions gods. They worship it as you are worshiping your allah, they fear it, as you fear your, allah, they respect it as you respect your allah,

if muslim and buddhist are praying, does that mean they are both praying to the same god ?Did Jesus mentions the word 'Allah' when he cried to God on the cross ?What gave you impression that Jesus was calling to the arab's allah or god ?

Ok, the methord of worship of Israelite and and Arab are they thesame ? Jesus was an Israelite. He called to Israel God not buddish or arab gods.

The God you worship can only know by heart or by action not by mouth. If i put a big stone on grand and and pure wine on it and then raise my hand to heaven and say stone the god answer my prayer. Since he raised his and towords heaven those that make him worship Israel God.

Think. Muslims are bowing toward the ka'aba throughout the world. And you know the history of kaa'ba. Why would God want us to bow for kaa'ba. Because it was built by Abraham? Sorry.

Ayomivic:

allah might be aramaic world for god but the true is that there are many fake gods. Those that are worshiping Idols would not call it idol but god . If buddhist are talking about the idol they worshiped, they would not call it idol.They will called him god .Does that make it thesame with Muslim's Allah? No, but they make it equivalent to other riligions gods. They worship it as you are worshiping your allah, they fear it, as you fear your, allah, they respect it as you respect your allah,

if muslim and buddhist are praying, does that mean they are both praying to the same god ?Did Jesus mentions the word 'Allah' when he cried to God on the cross ?What gave you impression that Jesus was calling to the arab's allah or god ?

Ok, the methord of worship of Israelite and and Arab are they thesame ? Jesus was an Israelite. He called to Israel God not buddish or arab gods.

The God you worship can only know by heart or by action not by mouth. If i put a big stone on grand and and pure wine on it and then raise my hand to heaven and say stone the god answer my prayer. Since he raised his and towords heaven those that make him worship Israel God.

Think. Muslims are bowing toward the ka'aba throughout the world. And you know the history of kaa'ba. Why would God want us to bow for kaa'ba. Because it was built by Abraham? Sorry.

Don't mind the deluded clown, apart from a fact that it is a lie that Allah is the aramaic name for God, as of the time of Jesus allah was only one of over three hundren pagan gods worshipped by the arabs. It wasn't till the time of mohammed that he decided to promote his god by impersonating him with borrowed scriptures in the bible/torah that allah began to gain prominence as a god.

just passing by but i av to write dis b4 i go: as av said, ur bible also preaches islam, check JOHN CHAP 13VS5 Wen JESUS SAID THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND JESUS WHOM U AV SENT and dis is d basic preachin of islam; u guys shd reason about dIS vesrs...the only true in dis content means there is only 1 God nt 3 as u guys proclaim; jesus confirmed dat himself...2/ u guys shd know dere is a lot of contracdictn in ur diluted bible which makes u christian confuse about d religion and dat is Y u guys av unrelated ways of worshipin GOD.FOR EXAMPLE, Accordin 2 ur diluted bible, jesus died 4 3 days and night; so if jesus died on friday and wake up on sunday, hw does dat makes 3days and nite? 3/ Wot makes islam d accepted religion is dat it has d same view and preachin compare 2 other prophets sent 4rm God which is d believe dat dere is only 1 G0D;dey never claimed dat dere is 3 gods or is dere differents GOD THEN DIFFERENT 4RM D 1 NW? IN CONCLUSION, There is only 1 most high GOD WH D ONLY 1 DAT KNOW D JUDGEMENT DAY SINCE UR Proclaim God d sun/JESUSconfirm dat in d bible dat he himself did nt know djudgement day except GOD D FATHER WHICH MAKES HIM UNEQUAL 2 GOD

vedaxcool: According to Jesus spirit could mean prophet


Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


1 john 4 :1

If you believe this verse, what make you reject this verse that follow?

1 Jonh 4:3 "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is is not of God: and this is the spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

whatever makes you accept 1 John 4:1 should also make you accept this verse.

If you reject this verse is what they called hypocrite. I said it early it will have better for Muslims not to use Bible as a reference than the mess they put themselves into.

Rashe:
just passing by but i av to write dis b4 i go: as av said, ur bible also preaches islam, check JOHN CHAP 13VS5 Wen JESUS SAID THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND JESUS WHOM U AV SENT and dis is d basic preachin of islam;

It will have been better not to quote any verse from Bible because your next statement shows how confuse you are.

u guys shd reason about dIS vesrs...the only true in dis content means there is only 1 God nt 3 as u guys proclaim; jesus confirmed dat himself...2/ u guys shd know dere is a lot of contracdictn in ur diluted bible which makes u christian confuse about d religion and dat is Y u guys av unrelated ways of worshipin GOD.FOR EXAMPLE, Accordin 2 ur diluted bible, jesus died 4 3 days and night; so if jesus died on friday and wake up on sunday, hw does dat makes 3days and nite? 3/ Wot makes islam d accepted religion is dat it has d same view and preachin compare 2 other prophets sent 4rm God which is d believe dat dere is only 1 G0D;dey never claimed dat dere is 3 gods or is dere differents GOD THEN DIFFERENT 4RM D 1 NW?

The same Books full of contradictions still preach about Islam, is like you're a little bit confuse here? No offence.

IN CONCLUSION, There is only 1 most high GOD WH D ONLY 1 DAT KNOW D JUDGEMENT DAY SINCE UR Proclaim God d sun/JESUS confirm dat in d bible dat he himself did nt know djudgement day except GOD D FATHER WHICH MAKES HIM UNEQUAL 2 GOD

Yes only one God. Who is claiming three gods? Even Daniel asked, when all this shall end. God said "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel for the words are closep up and sealed till the time of the end. Daniel 12:9"

So is not the time of Jesus the question is being asked....but God just decided not to let any man know it.

vedaxcool:

U seem to contradict yourself

AND SHALL BE IN YOU. Means the Holy Spirit is going to be living inside them later on after d death of Jeaus.

Clearly u r indicating in this statement that Jesus is referring to his disciples hence since they died his prophecy stands false , you attempt to spin this contradiction can be replicated by we Muslims, but lemme compound your problem a bit, was Jesus expecting his disiples for ever ? Since he declared it will abide with them forever addressing his disciples?

Is it heard to understand that I can be addressing you and at the same time be passing info to generations not yet born?

In case you are doubting, let us read further to clear your doubt that Jesus was referring to the Holy Spirit.

Acts 1:2-5, 8-9, 13-14 KJV
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: [3] To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: [4] And, being assembled together with them , commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he , ye have heard of me. [5] For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. [8] But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. [9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. [13] And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. [14] These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

Acts 2:1-11 KJV
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. [3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. [5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. [6] Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. [7] And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? [8] And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? [9] Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, [10] Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, [11] Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Jesus promised he was going to send the Holy Spirit ,as we can read from above, it came to pass on the day of Pentecost.

Proberbly you have forgotten that Jesus mentioned the Holy Spirit : John 14:25-26 KJV
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. [26] But the Comforter, WHICH IS THE Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

i quoted 4rm d bible cos dere ar some elements of truth in it and even prophet Mohammed did mention of it dat we shd believe in all d book given 2 d prophet be it Moses, David, JESUS. Some christian even confirm dat d bible
had being diluted and good examples ar d jehovah witness which result in neglectin som verses 4rm d diluted bible.e.g non-cruxificatn..4rm my own point of view, u ar suppose 2 question d0se people hw dy know d bible is bein diluted and formin dere own bible which brought d belief/idea of non-cruxificatn in their own bible and other false tins b4 criticizin d muslims and d quran in general.

@enilove: You don't have to define ‘Comforter’ because it is just a translation of the Greek word ‘Paraclete’. In other Bible translations they used Helper, Counsellor, Advocate etc. Former Roman Catholic Bishop, David Benjamin Keldani, argues that even the word ‘Paraclete’ found in John was originally written without vowel letters PRCLT which could be read or understood both as ‘Pereclyte’ or ‘Paraclete’. ‘Periclyte’ means ‘the one who is blessed all over him’ which is what ‘Muhammad’ or ‘Ahmad’ means in Arabic. ‘Paraclete’ (comforter or advocate) was used instead. The original Hebrew/Aramaic word in the in the original Hebrew/Aramaic master copy (or verbal dictation) was Ahmed but it was not supposed to be translated to its meaning but should have been left as a person's name. Instead ‘Ahmed’ was translated into ‘Periclyte’ which was written Prclt which was later vocalized as ‘Paraclete’.
* Since Jesus said “I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER comforter” it means Jesus was the first comforter, another comforter would have to be a man like him not Holy Spirit.
* The Bible says that the Holy Spirit was already there on earth before and during the time of Jesus. But Jesus said the Comforter will only come if he (Jesus) depart. “Nonetheless I tell you the truth: it is expedient that I go away: for if I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you: but if I depart I will send him unto you” John 16:7 Therefore the Comforter is not the Holy Spirit.
*Jesus said the promised comforter will teach “all things” did the Holy Spirit teach anything?
*“That he may abide with you forever” this does not mean that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will live physically on earth forever. No it means that his teachings will remain intact, uncorrupted till the end of time. This is why the Quran (unlike the Bible) has never been tempered with since its revelation 1400yrs ago.
*Jesus did not call himself ‘Son of God’. According to NRSV Bible Jesus called himself ‘son of man’ 84 times, people and paul called him ‘son of God’ 63 times.
*The fact that Jesus prophesy the coming of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) does not mean that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will do everything exactly as Jesus did. Infact according to the prophesy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is expected to do and teach ‘many things’ which Jesus didn't do.
Read John 16:12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but YE CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, HE WILL GUIDE YOU UNTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
*Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not die of food poisening.
* Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not dwell with the Apostles. The Holy Spirit which dwelt with them cannot be the promised comforter based on John16:7 as i mentioned above.
* ‘And shall be in you’ this does not mean that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be living inside anybody. Compare this with John 17:21"They (the disciples) all may be one; as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us."
Does this mean that Jesus will be living inside God, God will be living inside Jesus and the Disciples will be living INSIDE both God and Jesus?
*If this prophesy refers to the Holy Spirit, not a man then why the use of the pronouns ‘he’, ‘him’ not ‘it,’ its?
*The word ‘Spirit’ according to the Bible can be used for a Prophet. It's more likely that was only word used. ‘Holy’ could be a later insertion. I will bring evidence for my last assertion

vedaxcool:

ur opinions are just that opinions. Having no empirical evidence except tall tales as evidence back.


This would have made sense only if they are no Bishop converting to Islam https://www.nairaland.com/1383687/ukranian-bishop-accept-islam
unless u want to claim Bishop s r ignorant of the Scripture, ur claim is just desperate are pathetic.

Hmm tall tale indeed so you what about the Bishop from Ukraine who live in a Christian dominated country, leads a church? Of if we want to give your story some air of truth, you can't count on one one tale like these and pretend it is a trend.


Christians must be so easily brainwashed, and it seems no divine intervention. And there r Christians who still practice their religion despite being married to a Muslim. Those who convert do so because they realize that christianity is false and off the path of truth.



Lol any Christian who convert because of money realiaze that the tithe he is paying his pastor has made him poor and hence while would practicing his faith be so much of a pocket drain. The wise man know s his pastor wants to fly a plane at his expense hence he again concludes Christianity is falsee.

True a lot Christian behave bad, again making the wise wonder whether the religion can make any positive impact on their lives, hence they move to Islam to be better people.




i. Dr Jerald Dirks.. Former minister (Deacon) of the United Methodist Church. He holds a Master's degree in Divinity from Harvard University and a Doctorate in Psychology from the University of Denver.

ii. Donelle Bergeson converted to Islam in Jan. 2010. She was a United Methodist and pursuing her Master's degree in Christian Divinity at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, Evanston, IL to become a Christian Elder/Pastor/Minister when she decided to convert to Islam. She entered her Master's degree as committed Christian and she graduated in

Which of the above two can u say r actually ignorant of Islam?

Christians keep trooping into Islam because it is the right path and because they realise that God cannot be 3 & 1, He has no son, Bible does not guide people to the right path. The qur'an is the book of guidance for all time.

I am sure you are aware of all i wrote here but you can say the truth because there is no truth in you.

Please do us a favour by telling us one significant point gives by ukranian Bishop as a reason that make him abandon christianity? Even , there is no specific reason in the link you gave.
You are aliar.

What makes Islam better than Christianity ? In Christianity, we preach Jesus Christ and your Quran confirmed Jesus to be prophet. Unlike Muhammad who lack the confirmation of all the prophets.

' They leave christianity because don't want to be poor by paying tithe' but they are going to be rich in Islam, by paying for isebililahi, prayer's money and by putting money into alfa's pokcket. Sorry for you.

You sound as if you don't know the attitudes or behaviours of your alfas. I don't see the different between them and Babaalawo.

Did i ask you to mention the names of christian whow convert to islam ?Wha i ask you to do was to give their testimonies , reason they left christianity. Did you see any of them to post on this thread ? They can't come out because they have no genuine reasons for abandon chritianity. Let us ask muslims converts to come an give the reason they abandon Islam and see if they will come out or not.

Let me help you, search on net for why did christians convert to Islam' and come back and give us your findings. But do yourself a favour by searching for the reason why Muslims convert to Christianity,may be your eye can open.

Emusan:


If you believe this verse, what make you reject this verse that follow?

1 Jonh 4:3 "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is is not of God: and this is the spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

whatever makes you accept 1 John 4:1 should also make you accept this verse.

If you reject this verse is what they called hypocrite. I said it early it will have better for Muslims not to use Bible as a reference than the mess they put themselves into.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not deny that Jesus is come of flesh. Therefore he is not an anticirist. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did confirm the miraculous birth of Jesus which even some Today's christians deny.

mazaje:

Hope you know that the guy that made the report is a muslim. . .Seocondly a research by a Muslims scholar whose name is Prof IIyas Ba Yunus was conducted in the US and it found out that 70 percent of converts to islam leave islam after a few years. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8EC8-aVlrE

It doesnt matter what his religion is. Whoever made that claim have to back it up with sufficient evidence. You seem to accepts any anti-islam rubbish because some faceless ‘muslim’ scholar(s) say(s). You should demand for evidence. Now i just don't see how the US prof's ‘research’ could be reconciled with this CNN report among others..
According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walksof life,”
http://www.cnn.com /WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

people who live in the usa and are sincere about the phenomenon of islam in her and in the americas in general will not say 'apostasy' is common there. when the people enter islam, the adults stay in it. my problems are with the youth because their immaturity is the reason they resist islam seeing what others are free to do and choose from and they often want to be part of it because humans love instant gratification. in spite of the 911 disaster and the backlash that is still hovering over us from it, islam is in americas and in the usa to stay.

Zarian5:
It doesnt matter what his religion is. Whoever made that claim have to back it up with sufficient evidence. You seem to accepts any anti-islam rubbish because some faceless ‘muslim’ scholar(s) say(s). You should demand for evidence. Now i just don't see how the US prof's ‘research’ could be reconciled with this CNN report among others..
According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walksof life,”
http://www.cnn.com /WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

You keep hitting head head against the wall, you said a report from cnn claims this or that, I gave you a report from aljezeera that made a claim as well. . .You dis miss it because you do not like it and the thing is the people that made but research are muslims. . . Prof IIyas Ba Yunus is a famous islamic scholar in the united states, he is not some obscured fogure among American muslims, his study shows that 75% of muslims converts leave islam after a few years. . .Islam is growing mostly because of immigration and high birth rates among muslims in the west. . .

Lol. .many xtians when they can no longer defend their faith or are not interested in having further dialogue with muslims. They will begin to say some something like:
*We don't worship the same God with you (muslims).
Muslims worship the only one true God (aka ‘Father’). They don't worship the ‘son’. The ‘son’ himself had never said he's God or asked anybody to worship him.
*Muslims worship moon god. Maybe its this ‘moon’ god that that revels the Qur'an which exposes the lies of the christians (& jews as well). Is that possible? Lol. we don't worship moon god.

*Some say muslims worship ka'abah.
No, we don't worship the ka'abah. We bow down for God not ka'abah. The ka'abah is just a Qibla (direction) which all muslims face as a sign of unity of the Ummah. During the early days of Islam Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his companions used to be facing Masjidul Aqsa, jerusalam until a revelation came asking them to turn to Masjid al-haram in makkah.
*Some say Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) copied his Quran from the Bible?
Which Bible Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) copied? Jewish Talmud? Or Catholics' Douay Rheims? Or Protestants' KJV? Or Jehovah's witnesses' New World Translation or the Book of Mormon? Lol. The fact is, no Bible was translated to Arabic in the 6th century! Besides Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was an ummi (unlettered) Prophet. He never read any book before the Quran.
And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a Book before this (came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case, indeed, would the talkers of vanities have doubted. Quran 29:48. This remind me of Prophet Muhammad's another prophesy in the Bible “And the Book is given to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he sayeth, I am not learned” Isaiah 29:12
*Some say Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) fought his enemies in wars which Jesus didn't do, therefore Muhammad is a fake prophet. Didn't Moses fought in wars? Was he a fake Prophet? Since christians believe ‘Jesus is God’. Then we can say that it was Moses' Lord Jesus Christ (aka ‘God’) that gave him order for those brutal wars he fought in the OT..lol..no offence.

mazaje:

Ever heard of the statement that extra ordinary claims requiring extra ordinary evidence?. . .You claim is extra ordinary, saying that the creator of the universe wrote a book is an extra ordinary claim and you need to back it up with extra ordinary evidence. . .If the creator of the universe will ever write a book and will want any body to know about it then every body will be born naturally with the knowledge of the book, he won't reveal it to some arabic man in some cave. . .The islamic story remains a story and that is it..no evidence nothing at all, just them say them say. . .

here is something: a 7th century Arab declares that the universe is expanding. keep in mind that this was something scientists only "discovered" 1,300 years later in the in the 20th century after the invention of the hubble.
is that extraordinary?