lionel4power:
Saffers as of today how many of your Gripens is actively flying ? Can you give me a guesstimate

jln115
Frumentius
Patches
Activatekruger
Rka2
Patchesagain

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jln115:


Well as Lionel put it hearsay isn't much proof but you said you are putting your reputation on the line and the fact you're not Henry or Covert so you actually still have one, I am open to the fact that you might have qualified men in your military.

"Reputation/Validation on the internet?".

Are your lives really this empty and joyless?

Covert1:


It is a dumb question since you've answered it yourself. But then you turn a blind eye to save face.

Earlier I told you the NNSBS regime of training involves months of SEAL team qualification. You don't get the NNSBS badge without SEAL level qualification and that includes HAHO/HALO, submarine operations and under water demolitions and combat etcetera. The NNSBS also incorporates courses for qualification not only peculiar to the US Navy SEALS.

And what is all this HAHO/HALO noise about: the difference being the use of oxygen mask in seconds of exit at some 30,000 feet so that the operator don't get asphyxiated. It is not rocket science though rare.

SOURCE!!!

jln115:
SOURCE!!!

You just read the source.

Covert1:


You just read the source.

a source is not something you make up......post a source/citation to back up your claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uKniZl2o5w

Namibian commando:

Covert1:


The NNSBS is SEAL qualified for the full-spectrum of all special Ops in any terrain or weather. They are the best in this region. No one comes close. That I can tell you. Except someone leaks something I have no official source for you since much of what they do is officially classified.

So how do you know if its classified?

You guys are funny, why do we go for Advanced Airborne courses after Basic Airborne course ?
Answer : To dance shakushaku and wear patch ba

EMW01:
1st SCOTS training KDF

Btw,smth to know about many of these training pics. The Brits here are mainly training for Afghan ops and are comparable to Eldoret AFTC module 3 cadets. In the civvy world maybe 2 or form 3 kids. Matured,yes but not wholly. Also many of the foreign trainers aren't the best-for obvious reasons. For that you must train your own trainers and then develop your own doctrines!
How many of you think Jean-Fraude will properly train the Francophone 'specops' units we've been seeing on this thread?

CaptainStephen:
You guys are funny, why do we go for Advanced Airborne courses after Basic Airborne course ?
Answer : To dance shakushaku and wear patch ba

CaptainStephen:
You guys are funny, why do we go for Advanced Airborne courses after Basic Airborne course ?
Answer : To dance shakushaku and wear patch ba

Aha!
Yes, a serving officer. Please clarify things if it doesn't get you in trouble sha

jakeporeshenko:
haha my guy say na “ sod off” comic book writer
Enjoy the pictures, when you release your next comic please don’t fault to inform me, maybe we’ll be intercepting Algerian flankers this time around.

Haba!!
This is pure wickedness

jln115:
Namibian commando:

It bothers me, that picture.

Dude is jumping with a rig worth thousands of dollars. Yet he is armed with a hundred dollar AK.

Same applies to RSA.

lionel4power:
so how fast do you think your air force regenerate a 26 ship formation for air strike say for instance in Angola.

Wouldn't make sense to send your entire fighter fleet on a bombing mission and leave your country defenseless.

If we were to do a bombing run.....in Angola for example we'll probably send our Hawk with Gripen as escort, One Gripen would fly near it's service ceiling with it's Radar on full power then sending(threw LinkZA) that picture to the the remaining Hawk and Gripen whos radars are off thus rendering them almost invisible on enemy Radar.

Patchesagain:


So how do you know if its classified?

Because I know and I owe you no explanation. I don't work for you. I know my allegiance.

Patchesagain:



It bothers me, that picture.

Dude is jumping with a rig worth thousands of dollars. Yet he is armed with a hundred dollar AK.

Same applies to RSA.

Hey even our SFs still use AK47s from time to time....according to Denel Rifle technology in it's self has advanced very little in the last 50 odd years, hence the reason they decided to only upgrade the R4 rather than replace it with the CR21 under project African warrior.

Covert1:


Because I know and I owe you no explanation. I don't work for you. I know my allegiance.

Yeah @patchesagain!!!

He know because he know...he doesn't have to prove it!

Have you forgotten that this man is a military researcher

jln115:

a source is not something you make up......post a source/citation to back up your claims.

I am your citation.

However in due course you will have verifiable proof it exists not only among the NNSBS but other elements of Nigeria's Armed Forces.

Covert1:


I am your citation.

However in due course you will have verifiable proof it exists not only among the NNSBS but other elements of Nigeria's Armed Forces.

Cool story bro!!

In that case South Africa has 50 F22s.....and I know this because i know this.....no citation required since i am the citation!!

jln115:

Wouldn't make sense to send your entire fighter fleet on a bombing mission and leave your country defenseless.

If we were to do a bombing run.....in Angola for example we'll probably send our Hawk with Gripen as escort, One Gripen would fly near it's service ceiling with it's Radar on full power then sending that picture to the the remaining Hawk and Gripen whos radars are off thus rendering them almost invisible on enemy Radar.

Joke of the century! See kids playing on the internet. SAAF in it's current state attack Angola. These are the people who think just having a frontline fighter is what makes an Air Force. Angola will so teach you that it is not a paper tiger.

jln115:



Cool story bro!!

In that case South Africa has 50 F22s.....and I know this because i know this.....no citation required since i am the citation!!

Amuse yourself, it is your time of the month.

Covert1:


Joke of the century! See kids playing on internet. SAAF in it's current state attack Angola. These are the people who think just having a frontline fighter is what makes an Air Force. Angola will so teach you that it is not a paper tiger.

Was using Angola as an example since that was the country Lionel4power was using as an example.

In terms of the discussion me and Lionel were having(that you rudely interrupted) the actual ability for SAAF to attack Angola is completely irrelevant.

Covert1:


Amuse yourself, it is your time of the month.

Ok in that case we also have 400 Leopard A7, 40 Apache, 10 C17 and 2 Mistral class LHDs

Citation........I am the citation bitch

Covert1:


[s]Because I know and I owe you no explanation. I don't work for you. I know my allegiance.[/s]

So you have no evidence? Just your own imagination?

Dude, this is beyond pathetic.

Covert1:


I am your citation.

What are your credentials?

jln115:

Was using Angola as an example since that was the country Lionel4power was using as an example.

In terms of the discussion me and Lionel were having(that you rudely interrupted) the actual ability for SAAF to attack Angola is completely irrelevant.

Moot point,

The discussion has already been had RE: Angolan Su-30K v Gripen - I believe a senior member of 2 Squadron did a presentation while as a notable South African defence analyst wrote an article on the topic.

I believe the conclusion was that if the Gripen were armed with BVR missles, the Angolans would lose. But without BVRM the Gripen would (obviously) lose. In the hypothetical example BVRM specifications and logistical issues were excluded as variables.

It came down to tactics and employment.

Patchesagain:


Moot point,

The discussion has already been had RE: Angolan Su-30K v Gripen - I believe a senior member of 2 Squadron did a presentation while as a notable South African defence analyst wrote an article on the topic.

I believe the conclusion was that if the Gripen were armed with BVR missles, the Angolans would lose. But without BVRM the Gripen would (obviously) lose. In the hypothetical example BVRM specifications and logistical issues were excluded as variables.

It came down to tactics and employment.

Dreams in high places!

Only Southies talk so arrogantly and only southies are also unable to live up to their outsized expectations. I won't indulge you.

But there is Zimbabwe next door. Why Angola? Why not start with Zimbabwe's F-7s and Army?

Patchesagain:


What are your credentials?

Covert.

Patchesagain:


Moot point,

The discussion has already been had RE: Angolan Su-30K v Gripen - I believe a senior member of 2 Squadron did a presentation while as a notable South African defence analyst wrote an article on the topic.

I believe the conclusion was that if the Gripen were armed with BVR missles, the Angolans would lose. But without BVRM the Gripen would (obviously) lose. In the hypothetical example BVRM specifications and logistical issues were excluded as variables.

It came down to tactics and employment.

Dean Wingrin(or was it Darren Oliver?) I believe wrote an article on it on African defence.net

Though this discussion wasn't really a Gripen vs Su30 one.

Patchesagain:


So you have no evidence? Just your own imagination?

Dude, this is beyond pathetic.

Empirical evidence. As usual I'll make you have egg on your face. You and your co-traveler.

Covert1:


Covert.

Yeah your credentials are literally nowhere to be seen