iblawi:


I don't like it when you try to twist things. The question was how france supported boko haram and why some nigerians don't feel comfortable with France.

You might claim chad and Cameroon Dont use france as a cover when they have issues with Nigeria.

You can claim France played no role in bakasi peninsula crisis.

You can claim France have no interest in lake chad basin.

No one said france Dont do business in Nigeria.

Russia still do business with EU despite the sanction.

US and Russia still do business even though they are enemies.

China and US still trade together despite south china sea crisis.

etc.

All the guy was trying to claim was that France played a role in the growth of boko haram and that's all.

lionel4power:
provide proof of anything. Any evidence would do.

Im just trying to follow the path of rationality here.

I'm still looking for any indication that France is undermining Nigeria. If you have any evidence please share.

iblawi:


I pity Nigerian youth.

What have you been reading? Or you just feel like typing?

Just go to the same page you quoted am sure you should get your answer.

patches689:
Just FYI


Russia, Cuba, East Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War



Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Malawi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_Civil_War


Cuba, Zambia, ANC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War


China, Libya, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Russia, Cuba, East Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War



Senegal and Rawanda are the biggest contributors to African peacekeeping missions, 8th and 4th in the world respectively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_UN_peacekeepers



South Africa right now, Egypt looking to take top spot soon
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37045276

lionel4power:

Still not a proof.


The question is does France undermine Nigeria's national integrity? Yes or no! If i see a proof then I'll accept. a simple link or evidence will suffice

To my own understanding, France has never.... (emphasis on "never" ) shown any indication of that... And if you read the long writeup i made up there, you'll see enough evidence that Franco-Nigerian relationships is strong.

I refuse to just sit back and create narratives that are contrary to what we can clearly see on ground.

iblawi:


I don't like it when you try to twist things. The question was how france supported boko haram and why some nigerians don't feel comfortable with France.

You might claim chad and Cameroon Dont use france as a cover when they have issues with Nigeria.

You can claim France played no role in bakasi peninsula crisis.

You can claim France have no interest in lake chad basin.

No one said france Dont do business in Nigeria.

Russia still do business with EU despite the sanction.

US and Russia still do business even though they are enemies.

China and US still trade together despite south china sea crisis.

etc.

All the guy was trying to claim was that France played a role in the growth of boko haram and that's all.

iblawi:


If you still didn't see any proof then I give up.

What will it cost you to do simple google search?

https://www.naija.ng/amp/388982-army-captures-french-boko-haram-fighters-france-demands-them-back.html


http://www.gamji.com/article10000/NEWS10055.htm

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/bakassi-shameless-surrender-to-shenanigans-of-imperialism-western-conspiracy/amp/

http://ends.ng/nigeria-deserves-explanation-from-france-on-terrorism-due-to-its-involvement-in-the-nigerian-civil-war-the-bakassi-dispute-oil-theft-and-recently-the-translation-of-boko-haram-video-by-the-french-me/


https://guardian.ng/opinion/bakassi-peninsulas-unfinished-business/amp/

They are so many that I can even read through them. At the end of the day you will go write rubbish about Nigeria on your blog.

rugged7:
Bros, na so nah....

Don't mind these ungrateful, resentful, butt-hurt, government a$$-licking SOBs insulting Beegeagle.

It just speaks to their horrible characters.

And the funny thing be say Beegeagle no even send these bunch of retards.

When he was running beegeagles blogs, they were all running there to go and show their ignorance.

Defence chiefs in many countries were following his blog.

Now they have the temerity to insult him behind his back. BUNCH OF COWARDS

Beegeagles is a far better man than the bunch of losers rolled up together.

That's why those dimwit south africans have no iota of respect for the useless loudmouths.

*spits*

rugged7:
RUBBISH!
Where were you when ALL of them were insulting Beeg's??
Thunder fire all of una mouth wey una use dey insult Oga Beegs.
God punish all of una mama and papa.
Nonsense.
*spits*

abiodunalasa:


Which Country formed and chaired the UN committee against Apartheid in South Africa : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Angola out of Civil war and help them gain independence and ensuring that MPLA gain power : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Mozambique gain peace and progress by suppressing and destroying the South African backed insurgents : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Namibia gain independence and uprooting the devilish apartheid government installed by South Africa : Nigeria

Pls read on... I aint done yet !

Which country provided Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) with money and Military training so they could collect their Country from the White occupants : NIGERIA

Now here is the interesting parts.. wait for it...

Which Country has its Military in several other African Countries even with all its own problem at home : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Entertainment industry in Africa and 3rd in the World : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Economy in Africa : NGERIA

Richest Black man on earth is from where : NIGERIA

Richest African woman(non state actor) is from where : NIGERIA


You see I don't like rubbing Nigerian leadership position on your face... But it seems you needed some quick reminder.

Dont worry, very soon, when the right leadership appears, Nigeria will lead all black folks to that promise land that we promised you all when we gain independence in 1960
Wait for it!

jln115:

And yet Im still left with no answers and more heresy and speculation.

The fact that Eeben Barlow says BH are supplied by Europeans means literally nothing, there are many private gun runners in this world, from Europeans to South Africans that supply to any group that are willing to pay. My question still is how France caused BH and why would they support BH in Nigeria when there are other rebel groups in the Countries you mentioned above which they would have much better control over.

I still don't see how BH, which have been targeting mostly Nigerian forces and capturing mostly Nigerian towns ect ect is caused by the French.

There might be other Rebel groups in Chad, Mali, Burkina Faso ect ect which the above might be more true, but certainly not BH.

kikuyu1:


Actually,no 3 is not completely corrupt. Ex prez Moi directly intervened in 1989 holding Nairobi peace talks with both the gov and RENAMO.

He also helped Nam' and indeed the KA trained them post uhuru.

This has never appeared anywhere even on the 'net but there was secret KA help in the form of a handful of active advisers. An uncle was in country around 74-76 operating with both Zipra and Zanu and rated the latter,the Matabele led Zipra at least 2 notches above the latter. He had nothing but respect for ALL Rhodesian forces,btw.
NIGERIA IS NOT AND MAYBE,NEVER WAS THE BIGGEST ECONOMY IN AFRICA! That delusion has persisted for far too long. I don't want to spam this thread but all the receipts from consumption data,HDI and economic sector breakdown are are here:

https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect

nemesis8u:


That goes both ways

Arguments and counter arguments between citizens of multiple countries is a tit for tat response. Who to blame ?

It's free for all in the cyber world but the reality is things and events on the ground r not even minutely effected by narrative posted online.

kikuyu1:


Ideally,a French agent from The General Directorate for External Security (French: Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure, DGSE) is France's external intelligence agency would confess publicly but that's not h it goes! I and others have given more than enough info to see the French outline. Connect the dots for yourself ,my dude!

nemesis8u:


Let me answer this indirectly

A loving father wacks his son for a misdemeanor

Is he in anyway a tyrant ?

A loving father overlooks a misdemeanor of his son

Is he in anyway overly indulging the wrongs ?

How do u judge ?

The greatest offence one can commit is - judge others

Love / loyalty / patriotism takes many forms and ways and cannot be judged by anybody. It's foolishness.

If I were to critique Ind... defence capability many Ind... will hate me

If I were to critique nig... defence capability many nig... will hate me

That comes with the job or the outlook the person has.

Some prefer to highlight the good for the betterment

Some prefer to highlight the shortcomings for the betterment

I see no wrong in Lionel as I see no wrong in u.

abiodunalasa:


A lot, Chief.
1. Dismantling and disorganizing a Country that as always been a threat to their Franco imperial grip on West Africa and Africa at large.
(Remember that Nigeria single handedly stood against them when they carried out Nuclear test in Northern Africa back in the 60s).

2. France does not have complete grip over the Economy of their former francophone colonies in West Africa as a result of Nigerian complete hegemony on ECOWAS.

3. Complete disintegration of Nigeria will favor French dominion in West Africa as any pieces of the disintegrated Nigeria cannot stand the surrounding French puppets alone (Chad, Cameroon, Niger, Benin).

4. Nigeria was and still been seen as a British empire (by virtue of common wealth), so breaking the Nigeria stronghold is a huge win for the French empire in the competition against British empire.

5. Military wise, Nigeria is superior to its French puppet neighbors combined... This is a huge threat to the Frenchs.

6. Lastly, arms sale, arms sale, arms sale !!! Crisis, war, prolonged insurgency is a very fertile land for arms dealers. Even if Nigeria is not buying arms from France, France is reaping dollars offs their puppets surrounding Nigeria in hope to contain BH from entering their own borders.

Now, get it right, France did not start Boko Haram in Nigeria
But by extension, they have helped it grow.
How ??

1. France made sure Camerron, Chad and Niger refused to work with Nigeria during the early days of BH... Not until 2015, When the then new President Buhari took the matter to United States before they agreed to form a Multi National Task Force with Nigeria.

2. How many times have France Airforce stopped Nigerian military from chasing fleeing BH in to Chad ?

3. How many times have BH raided Chad, Niger and Cameroon military outposts only for the BH to find little and no resistance and then cart away thousands of Arm and ammunition.
I remember when BH was suffering heavy defeat feom Nigeria and it look like they were going into extinction only for them to resuscitate because they found mouth watering catches of munitions in Chad out post or is it Cameroon (I cant remember).

France and Nigeria are latent enemies. C'est fini

jln115:

Conspiracy theorists are all of this thread..........Unfortunately im not to gullible, if it is not cold hard fact then i don't tend to believe it. So until , somebody can come up with damning evidence that France caused BH in Nigeria(The question i originally asked), nobody is going to change my mind!

cc @Ibwali

jln115:

Conspiracy theorists are all of this thread..........Unfortunately im not to gullible, if it is not cold hard fact then i don't tend to believe it. So until , somebody can come up with damning evidence that France caused BH in Nigeria(The question i originally asked), nobody is going to change my mind!

cc @Ibwali

nemesis8u:


Let me answer this indirectly

A loving father wacks his son for a misdemeanor

Is he in anyway a tyrant ?

A loving father overlooks a misdemeanor of his son

Is he in anyway overly indulging the wrongs ?

How do u judge ?

The greatest offence one can commit is - judge others

Love / loyalty / patriotism takes many forms and ways and cannot be judged by anybody. It's foolishness.

If I were to critique Ind... defence capability many Ind... will hate me

If I were to critique nig... defence capability many nig... will hate me

That comes with the job or the outlook the person has.

Some prefer to highlight the good for the betterment

Some prefer to highlight the shortcomings for the betterment

I see no wrong in lionel4power as I see no wrong in u.

As far as I am concerned lionel4power heart is in the right place. He will do well to replace one of the countless moronic Ind... citizens. I will gladly do the trade if it was in my power.

lionel4power:

take it from me... i have been on the sidelines trying to figure out how France is destroying Nigeria but i haven't seen any proof. All i see are people's opinion.

In sub-Saharan Africa alone, Nigeria is France’s largest trading partner (5.1 billion Euros in 2012) and the second largest export destination for its goods (value of exports was 1.3 billion Euros in 2012). French investments in Nigeria dwarf those in francophone West and Central Africa combined.

so far France has committed about $694 million to establishment of the Development Bank of Nigeria.

right now French troopers are out there in the Sahel desert trying to hold rampaging terrorists in Libya from flooding West Africa... they set up the G5 Sahel force so that Africans can fight for themselves, they arranged a security summit in 2014 so that West African countries can collaborate and fight boko haram.

they are training troops in Mali, Chad, Niger etc with their money

so i keep wondering why would France want to destroy this huge investments?

i understand that people are always looking for a common enemy when there is none to galvanise them.

The only enemy Nigeria has as of now is within us. and that's a fact.

iblawi:


This is exactly the shit that happens today. People like Lionel4power that see no good in their country go online to type shit and post only bad info about there country.

A stupid Nigerian too when online to open a thread on nairaland claiming Kenya was better than Nigeria in all aspects. They even argued to the extent that Kenyan entertainment industry was better than Nigeria entertainment industries. Kenyan banks are better than Nigerian banks even though Nigerian banks are buying Kenyan banks.

Another stupid fool when online claiming Rwanda was better than Nigeria because Volkswagen just open a new plant which is the first automobile assembly plant in the country. The fool didn't know Nigeria already have over 8 car assembly and manufacturing plant.

Now someone is claiming Nigeria have never been the largest economy in Africa and is still not the largest. Am not expecting anything more than support from people like lionel4power. I've never seen any post from him in support of this country even if they are false.


Today Sudan and Ethiopia have better industries than Nigeria


Tomorrow Kenya have better industries because they just built a drone.

When stupid information like this is what other see from Nigerians, who do you expect to say it a lie.

He just brought another claiming Nigerian is not among the list of innovative countries. Without asking for the metrics used to arrive at that conclusion he already believed but if I come out with counter claims he will start asking how? He forgot some people ignorantly wrote that the same way he does.

Keep killing your country online with your ignorance because you're trying to claim Mr I too know.

iblawi:


He already made it clear that France didn't start boko haram. What else do you what?

Jkay187:
The worlds largest radio telescope being unveiled today Meerkat.

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Kenyan Navy ship KNS Shujaa completes midlife refit in the Netherlands by Dutch shipbuilding company Damen Shipyards