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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:07pm On Nov 25, 2018
Tinfoil:


Algerian1 is right, not racist but actually true


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62TfjpTXsM
That's actually true, nothing racist about that comment.

Look at the dullard President we have in Nigeria. He spent nearly 6 months of 2017 in a London hospital.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:51pm On Nov 25, 2018
Tinfoil:


Algerian1 is right, not racist but actually true


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62TfjpTXsM
if it's all true, how bout the people investing back home? Are they aliens?
U re all as$ lickers with inferiority complex. We have good hospitals in Africa, we have rich men who also invest at home. We also have politicians who go to local hospitals for treatment.
Because one or two people or goes abroad to do their shiits doesn't mean every body tows the same part.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 8:56pm On Nov 25, 2018
krattoss:
if it's all true, how bout the people investing back home? Are they aliens?
U re all as$ lickers with inferiority complex. We have good hospitals in Africa, we have rich men who also invest at home. We also have politicians who go to local hospitals for treatment.
Because one or two people or goes abroad to do their shiits doesn't mean every body tows the same part.

what pres Putin said is a bitter pill that must be swallowed. apart from south Africa, Egypt tunisa,Morocco ,Algeria and Rwanda of resent. which other state in Africa have good hospitals?

being blind and being patriotic are two ends of a long line.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 8:57pm On Nov 25, 2018
Covert1:


There's only so much one can say not being on ground in the theater of combat operations. What happened at Metele is beyond embarrassing, it's a disaster that should sit everyone up. But it does not come without its sinister motives. Whichever way we want to postulate clearly this has something to do with the forthcoming election cycle in Nigeria. Vested interests foreign and domestic with an eye on the seat of power in Abuja will do anything to tarnish whatever security credentials of the sitting president who himself has been aloof in virtually all the sectors of the country.

That Chad border is the new problem. In fact the Chadians have since made a tactical withdrawal on that border following a new strain of relentless and fiery ISWAP attacks. In the last six months we have seen a resurgent ISWAP on the Chadian border. The new ISWAP leadership is ruthless and better armed. Many still question the sources of this new weaponry and the apparent lack of will of the Chadians to do their bit on their side of the border through the MNJTF. The only bulwark since then has been the NAF and task force elements of the Nigerian Army. However this Army has been fighting a bitter war over a decade now and smaller violent insurrections around the country, of course fatigue sets in at combat levels and the tendency to profit at higher command levels become palpable inevitably leading to unwarranted setbacks at the front. This is what happened to the Americans in Vietnam leading to their eventual in all but name capitulation despite severely punishing the enemy in a war of attrition. But the enemy we are fighting knows you can wear down a powerful army by guerrilla tactics, ambushes, terror attacks that instill fear in soldiers. The Barbarians set that trend with the powerful Roman legions leading in all to the fall of the Roman Empire.

The perpetrators of this evil against Nigeria brought us a Vietnam with Islamic strains but the difference here is that this is our home and the Nigerian military is not going anywhere until every one last bit of BHT is wiped out and this should be the new military strategy in the short term. The new order for every commander should be bodies; body count of enemy combatants. Kill as many terrorists as can be replaced. Yes it is a scorched earth strategy of taking the fight to the terrorists wherever they are hibernating including foreign territories. That Idris Deby Itno is up to something with a foreign power and should be taught a lesson of who is boss around here. Anything short of putting boots on the ground across borders will have us on the back foot defending indefensible bases and morning our dead. The war must be expanded and the NAF should lead the way with scorched earth 500 pound bombs on known ISWAP hideouts on the Chadian side of the border.

The old strategy hasn't been working which was to decimate and physically occupy liberated hitherto BHT strongholds with FOBs and back-up combat elements nearby for reinforcements thus allowing displaced citizens return back to normal life as a sign of winning the war on terror. Not gonna work in the short term. This will only be the usual back and forth that we see.

ISWAP has fully morphed into a deadly guerrilla army. The AFSF comes to mind. They have been very effective with their ruthless maneuvering. We must out-guerilla the guerrillas with deadly force that counts substantial enemy losses more than before. The 72nd and other such combat elements should be thrown into the fray with the objective of shooting anything that moves in BHT enclaves. They are ruthless we must be even more ruthless. BHT has shown incredible capacity to resurge with even more deadly force and should no longer be underestimated by anyone.

Abuja is the problem of this war. The current president cannot see beyond his nose in the north. His defense minister is parochial, sectional and tribalistic and should be sacked. The replacing of effective commanders from the south with northern officers at operational level in the north-east to counter the claim of the Borno state governor that southern officers have shown dexterity and innovation in combat is a shame. Nepotism is at its worst in Nigeria. The National Security System is being run by incompetent stooges from the north appointed by President Buhari. That's not to say there are no competent northern officers, there are but their loyalty is being called into question. The fear of the opposition PDP party winning back power has lead to paranoia in the current ruling party.

To start with the president must bury his hands in his head and take the blame for the recent shortcomings. The entire service chiefs should have been sacked when their term was up bringing on new hands for fresh impetus to the war going on up in north-east. I have since said and rested my case that these current service chiefs are bereft of new ideas and fresh eyes are needed on the field of combat.

There's only so much a professional Nigerian soldier can do when poorly led by the military high command and faced with overwhelming odds and no new strategy and tactical options to win a fight against die-hard islamafascists terrorists who believe they are on a mission from God and willing to die for it.


This is one of the few intelligent commentaries I have read about what happened and what must be done.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:14pm On Nov 25, 2018
giles14:
what pres Putin said is a bitter pill that must be swallowed. apart from south Africa, Egypt tunisa,Morocco ,Algeria and Rwanda of resent. which other state in Africa have good hospitals?

being blind and being patriotic are two ends of a long line.
u problem is that u think that anything a white man says or do is da deal. Little wonder all the countries u mentioned above are all white major strongholds. Apart from maybe Rwanda.

If u navigate through the states and capitals in all nigeria and Africa and couldn't find any good hospitals. Then am sorry to say that u re the one blinded with hate and as such don't want to see anything good these places.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 10:11pm On Nov 25, 2018
krattoss:
u problem is that u think that anything a white man says or do is da deal. Little wonder all the countries u mentioned above are all white major strongholds. Apart from maybe Rwanda.

If u navigate through the states and capitals in all nigeria and Africa and couldn't find any good hospitals. Then am sorry to say that u re the one blinded with hate and as such don't want to see anything good these places.

ours are hospitals that controled ebola, and even helped save aisha sesay's mom. but some people just do not think we are goos enough even to handle child birth

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 11:36pm On Nov 25, 2018
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:31am On Nov 26, 2018
Algerian1:
I Dont see any racism in what he said , its only the truth . rich africans should invest more in there own countries .

This,

Sadly too many will go "Waaaa thats racist! Its hurts my feelings!" instead of actually thinking about what he said.

Big problem in Africa.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 2:02am On Nov 26, 2018
patches689:
“The attack came at about 6 pm on Monday evening”, one soldier who managed to escape the onslaught from the terrorists, told Premium Times. "When the soldier on top of the observation post alerted that a large number of Boko Haram fighters were advancing, we all got alarmed as we took cover and waited within the base in Metele".
Soldiers didnt observe a dawn/dusk stand to - failure not on the soldiers part, but on leaderships


“The fight did not last for more than 45 minutes, but it was bloody because the Boko Haram fighters had more armament advantage than the soldiers.

We have suddenly lost our spirit of launching attacks because of lack of resources to prosecute the battle. Many of us are ready to do our best, but there has been no requisite support from those sending us out there.

“As I am talking to you now, we have about 70 corpses of soldiers littering the battleground in Metele and when we went to evacuate them on Monday, the Boko Haram gunmen came out in large numbers from all angles – so we had to abandon the corpses after just picking five of them. We left most of the corpses there as I am talking to you now.

“Our morale has been dampened so badly – not only because we are not given our due allowances; but for the fact that we have been outgunned by the Boko Haram.

“The situation has gone so bad that it has gotten to a stage that soldiers would be rushing to pack up their camps and flee upon hearing the news that Boko Haram fighters are advancing", he said.


Good men having to throw their lives away because of incompetent leaders and fanboys on the internet who would rather win a pissing contenst than criticize said leaders.

Many of them joined the army because they wanted to earn money not because they wanted to fight. Rising Unemployment rate is contributing to this problem.

Secondly, the issue of indiscipline need to be addressed.

Finally, train and retraining.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Ibrahimanis: 8:15am On Nov 26, 2018
giles14:
what pres Putin said is a bitter pill that must be swallowed. apart from south Africa, Egypt tunisa,Morocco ,Algeria and Rwanda of resent. which other state in Africa have good hospitals?

being blind and being patriotic are two ends of a long line.
Rwanda is a success story. Good hospitals is not the same as good health care. There are countries mentioned here whose healthcare is not THAT better than Nigeria's.

A country mentioned here 75% of its doctors are employed in the PRIVATE SECTOR .

2000 Nigerian trained doctors leave Nigeria YEARLY because of lack of employment but on the flip side Nigeria produces 2000 doctors yearly while a country mentioned here has about 50% VACANCY rate for doctors and 40% for nurses.

Though there is room for expansion at local level (primary health care) state and federal run hospitals are not THAT bad.

Nigerians going abroad for treatment has more to do with MENTALITY than lack of proper health care.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Ibrahimanis: 8:32am On Nov 26, 2018
iblawi:


Many of them joined the army because they wanted to earn money not because they wanted to fight. Rising Unemployment rate is contributing to this problem.


I might be wrong, though some Nigerians joined the army out of unemployment but most because it's a sign of prestige (to an extent) and wearing khaki makes them look cool. Though I agree with you most of them don't want to fight. All of them wanted to be posted to Lagos, Abuja or PH.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Jkay187(m): 11:42am On Nov 26, 2018
Tinfoil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJvOnvNr6Jw

Western Info wars in full swing.

This was allegedly said while South Africa's foreign Ministers was holding bilateral trade talks with Sergei Lavrov in Moscow. But in reality there's truth in these report because seen how Presidents die in Europe and gets buried in villages.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 5:45pm On Nov 26, 2018
krattoss:
u problem is that u think that anything a white man says or do is da deal. Little wonder all the countries u mentioned above are all white major strongholds. Apart from maybe Rwanda.

If u navigate through the states and capitals in all nigeria and Africa and couldn't find any good hospitals. Then am sorry to say that u re the one blinded with hate and as such don't want to see anything good these places.
blinded with hate ? Putin just spoke the gospel truth and I go with him.

those good hospitals you shouting about how many average Nigerians/Africans can afford to go there?

being patriotic doesn't mean going blind when you see the clear truth

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:53pm On Nov 26, 2018
Some people can't just stop smoking grin grin

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Cannonleo(m): 11:03pm On Nov 26, 2018
krattoss:
Some people can't just stop smoking grin grin
this is what we call Koko story
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:40am On Nov 27, 2018
@ GreenandGold

Mate, seen this?

Busy future for Denel Vehicle Systems
Another future vehicle project could be a light tactical vehicle for Special Forces and reconnaissance. Makhatini said many companies are producing armoured personnel carriers, but not light tactical vehicles and this is something Denel Vehicle Systems is looking into.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53774&catid=74&Itemid=30
Told you the Recces were looking for something heavier than the Hornet and lighter than a Mamba. Dust up your designs for a long wheel-base Hornet and make a cheeky submission to DVS, eh? grin grin grin
Hint: must fit into a Herc and be configurable for at least 6 variants, like the Hornet.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:11am On Nov 27, 2018
frumentius:


Busy future for Denel Vehicle Systems
Another future vehicle project could be a light tactical vehicle for Special Forces and reconnaissance. Makhatini said many companies are producing armoured personnel carriers, but not light tactical vehicles and this is something Denel Vehicle Systems is looking into.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53774&catid=74&Itemid=30

I don't understand some of the thought processes at Denel sometimes. DVS is looking at the above, whilst their sister companies in the form of a) Denel Land Systems has a proven LAV, the RG-32; and b) LMT produces the LM8 of which 80 were sold to Saudi Special Forces. grin grin grin

All the more reason to merge Denel Vehicle Systems(DVS), Denel Land Systems(DLS), Denel Land Mobility Technologies(LMT), Denel Mechatronics, Denel Gear Ratio and perhaps Denel Mechem into one company, to streamline their product offerings and put a stop to this needless sub-optimal replication.

PICS: some of the scattered, not entirely dissimilar vehicles produced by about 6 separate Denel companies which even an under-grad from a mediocre university would rationalise and fold into 1 company.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:13am On Nov 27, 2018
Make it rain angry angry. On em haters cheesy cheesy

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 2:00pm On Nov 27, 2018
giles14:
what pres Putin said is a bitter pill that must be swallowed. apart from south Africa, Egypt tunisa,Morocco ,Algeria and Rwanda of re
sent. which other state in Africa have good hospitals?

being blind and being patriotic are two ends of a long line.
http://www.africanzeal.com/best-rated-hospitals-africa/

1) it's a mentality issue. People always believe they'll find better healthcare abroad.
2) Most of the time you find that the best hospitals in Africa are more expensive than being treated abroad (+ air travel and accommodation) e.g a procedure might cost 2 million in a good hospital in Africa.. While in a place like India same procedure could cost 500k, so going abroad might actually save the guy 1m ..

The solution to African healthcare is not about good doctors or good hospital... The whole system is broken right from the clinic/dispensary level..
If clinics/dispensaries at the village/street level can be well resources to serve and treat all the preventable diseases then the big hospitals at the district/regional/national level can be relieved and let to concentrate on research, diagnostic and complex procedures... But what happens in most African countries is hospitals at district/regional and even at National level (level 4 & 5 hospitals) are overwhelmed treating patients with common diseases that are supposed to be treated at a local dispensary near you. The good doctors don't like being misused, they leave public healthcare unsearchable of greener pastures in private or foreign hospitals out of reach for common folks. Not to forget the brain drain of specialists doctors.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:49pm On Nov 27, 2018
Meko A200 algerian navy

Today at kiel germany

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:14pm On Nov 27, 2018
Out of all the many stalled Denel projects, these are the ones that I personally, would most like to see brought into production in the short term:
1) G7, towed and mobile, using existing NATO 105 ammo and not the proprietary ammo;
2) Bateleur UAV, obviously brought up-to-date and perhaps powered by the cheaper hydrogen fuel cells the CSIR developed with DARPA and our Department of Science and Technology funding;
3) An updated Mechem MC-90, a proper light reconnaissance car to replace the Eland, unlike the heavy Rooikat which can't be used in an expeditionary capacity.

A mate at CSIR Defence has a spreadsheet containing almost 100 Denel products started and unfinished due to lack of funds, with almost 300 IP items which the company could commercialise from [b]A[/b]mbulance services to [b]Z[/b]ero emission tools. A-Z, geddit?
I've only just chosen the 3 out of many needs that I think merit urgent attention we planners identify in the current structure of the SANDF.
Just Denel at which I'm looking at the moment; the broader SA defence industry could actually fulfill all the needs of our continent, cheaper and at the requisite performance or more, of the western and eastern suppliers.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:42pm On Nov 27, 2018
giles14:
what pres Putin said is a bitter pill that must be swallowed. apart from south Africa, Egypt tunisa,Morocco ,Algeria and Rwanda of resent. which other state in Africa have good hospitals?

being blind and being patriotic are two ends of a long line.

Sometimes I wonder if some of you have brain.

Rwanda now have better hospital than Nigeria abi?

When many of us complain about health sector, we are complaining about good hospital spread across the country or states and accessibility for everyone not that good hospital aren't available. I wonder if you have ever been in Rwanda to Prove this your claim.

Do you even know how many doctors we roll out of our schools yearly? Or how many hospitals are available that we still claim not to be enough. Or health insurance scheme running is several states not to talk of the national level.

I would agree if you say the health sector is not good enough but not comparing us to several small countries just achieving what we've achieved long ago.

Hospital are over crowded, doctors are over worked, resources not enough, etc happen but doesn't mean we don't have good hospitals.

If you have problem accessing or paying the high bills in some of these hospitals doesn't mean you should generalise your frustration.

Use your head.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 11:10pm On Nov 27, 2018
Amazing, the things people insult each other over, just epic grin grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:59am On Nov 28, 2018
Sizzorkay:
Amazing, the things people insult each other over, just epic grin grin
grin cheesy grin cool
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:27am On Nov 28, 2018
iblawi:


Sometimes I wonder if some of you have brain.

Rwanda now have better hospital than Nigeria abi?

When many of us complain about health sector, we are complaining about good hospital spread across the country or states and accessibility for everyone not that good hospital aren't available. I wonder if you have ever been in Rwanda to Prove this your claim.

Do you even know how many doctors we roll out of our schools yearly? Or how many hospitals are available that we still claim not to be enough. Or health insurance scheme running is several states not to talk of the national level.

I would agree if you say the health sector is not good enough but not comparing us to several small countries just achieving what we've achieved long ago.

Hospital are over crowded, doctors are over worked, resources not enough, etc happen but doesn't mean we don't have good hospitals.

If you have problem accessing or paying the high bills in some of these hospitals doesn't mean you should generalise your frustration.

Use your head.
as soon as I realized the dude is suffering from inferiority complex,i stopped replying.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 6:48am On Nov 28, 2018
iblawi:


Sometimes I wonder if some of you have brain.

Rwanda now have better hospital than Nigeria abi?

When many of us complain about health sector, we are complaining about good hospital spread across the country or states and accessibility for everyone not that good hospital aren't available. I wonder if you have ever been in Rwanda to Prove this your claim.

Do you even know how many doctors we roll out of our schools yearly? Or how many hospitals are available that we still claim not to be enough. Or health insurance scheme running is several states not to talk of the national level.

I would agree if you say the health sector is not good enough but not comparing us to several small countries just achieving what we've achieved long ago.

Hospital are over crowded, doctors are over worked, resources not enough, etc happen but doesn't mean we don't have good hospitals.

If you have problem accessing or paying the high bills in some of these hospitals doesn't mean you should generalise your frustration.

Use your head.
I wonder why some people will see White and still maintain that its black..

you produce 2000+ doctors per year how many remain and practice in Nigeria?

crowded is not the issue quality accessibility ad affordability is the issue .

mind you its not only in the health sector its in almost every sector in Nigeria.

on your comment of Rwanda just achieving what you achieved since just know that I get am before no be property.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Ibrahimanis: 9:43am On Nov 28, 2018
Rwanda has a better health care than Nigeria hands down, no argument, but it's normal, countries with small population tend to have better health care than the more populous ones. Compare the Scandinavians, Luxembourg, Qatar, Brunei, UK e.t.c to US, india, and China.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 3:14pm On Nov 28, 2018
The G-7's main selling point is its range and the deadly PFF HE rounds.
The modular charge system is essential to this.
You could downgrade it ,but then you'd just be competing with the Nexter and BAE guns with the same specs. Those companies have a huge advantage over Denel as their governments can finance deals.

The best bet for the G-7 would be to sell it to countries that do not already operate a 105mm. That way you can get past the "existing ammo supply" problem. You're also just talking about replacing the charges in inventory and not the rounds as G-7 was designed to be NATO 105mm ammo capable. An SP version integrated into a Patria AMV for example could also be an attractive product for countries wanting to go lighter without sacrificing much by replacing 155mm or 122mm d-30's with the G-7.
Another option would be a shortened lightweight version to replace 120mm mortars for airborne units. You could outrange old 120mm tubes and have lighter ammo at the same time. Chop the barrel just enough to make it to 15-20km range. Kind of a modern version of the OTO Melara 105mm pack howitzer.

Denel needs money to finish the project certs though. Until then they can't really sell it yet.


frumentius:
Out of all the many stalled Denel projects, these are the ones that I personally, would most like to see brought into production in the short term:
1) G7, towed and mobile, using existing NATO 105 ammo and not the proprietary ammo;
2) Bateleur UAV, obviously brought up-to-date and perhaps powered by the cheaper hydrogen fuel cells the CSIR developed with DARPA and our Department of Science and Technology funding;
3) An updated Mechem MC-90, a proper light reconnaissance car to replace the Eland, unlike the heavy Rooikat which can't be used in an expeditionary capacity.

A mate at CSIR Defence has a spreadsheet containing almost 100 Denel products started and unfinished due to lack of funds, with almost 300 IP items which the company could commercialise from [b]A[/b]mbulance services to [b]Z[/b]ero emission tools. A-Z, geddit?
I've only just chosen the 3 out of many needs that I think merit urgent attention we planners identify in the current structure of the SANDF.
Just Denel at which I'm looking at the moment; the broader SA defence industry could actually fulfill all the needs of our continent, cheaper and at the requisite performance or more, of the western and eastern suppliers.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 3:48pm On Nov 28, 2018
I agree that the MC-90 should also be brought back to life.
You could fit in a new power train and market it as a Toyota killer for COIN operations.

One option would be to offer a COIN package to customers like Nigeria, Chad etc.
You could have a MC-90/20/23 or mortar turret for cheap direct fires, a light protected mrap for infantry,a truck mounted 60/81/82mm mortar like the scorpion and a light recon/SF guntruck. Logistics and recovery can run on regular Toyota's with off road trailers.
All would be based on a common COTS driveline like a standard Toyota or anything that's produced in the country your selling to.

This would equip a "super light" COIN battle group that could stay in the feild much longer and be light enough to keep up with the enemy.
Heavy equipment slows you down to much and leads to shorter operations due to your logistics footprint and the maintenance of things like t-55s compared to a diesel Hilux. Lighter forces have the advantage of providing these local far out communities with more permanent security and policing. Time and time again we see insurgent groups in Africa get chased of only to return to those areas and establish operations when the security forces leave.

Most African countries should really consider getting rid of their heavy units equipped for conventional peer-peer warfare. If your neighbour does attack you with his 20 serviceable T-55's you could easily just stop him with a couple of SF units with Spikes or Javelins. No need to keep a expensive mechanised force with all the bells and whistles. Light units are also much more capable of providing policing in rural areas by embedding law enforcement officers for arresting and investigative functions that you really don't want soldiers to perform.

Have a look at what the Russians are doing with their 30th Motorized Rifle Brigade. The lessons they learnt in Syria can easily be translated to Africa.
Think defence has another good article on this concept from a western equipment perspective:
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/light-strike-brigade/

https://russiandefpolicy.blog/tag/30-%D1%8F-%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%81%D0%B1%D1%80/

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/09/lessons-of-syria-russia-creates-super-light-motorized-infantry/


61mech:
The G-7's main selling point is its range and the deadly PFF HE rounds.
The modular charge system is essential to this.
You could downgrade it ,but then you'd just be competing with the Nexter and BAE guns with the same specs. Those companies have a huge advantage over Denel as their governments can finance deals.

The best bet for the G-7 would be to sell it to countries that do not already operate a 105mm. That way you can get past the "existing ammo supply" problem. You're also just talking about replacing the charges in inventory and not the rounds as G-7 was designed to be NATO 105mm ammo capable. An SP version integrated into a Patria AMV for example could also be an attractive product for countries wanting to go lighter without sacrificing much by replacing 155mm or 122mm d-30's with the G-7.
Another option would be a shortened lightweight version to replace 120mm mortars for airborne units. You could outrange old 120mm tubes and have lighter ammo at the same time. Chop the barrel just enough to make it to 15-20km range. Kind of a modern version of the OTO Melara 105mm pack howitzer.

Denel needs money to finish the project certs though. Until then they can't really sell it yet.


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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:06am On Nov 29, 2018

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 3:10pm On Nov 29, 2018
Kenya Administation police(AP) and General Service Units (GSU) new basic training curriculum has some counter-terrorism, CQB added

Official vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nARNOIQGiLM

The unofficial vid compiles the action parts only


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f8bU5Mjnk4

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 11:34pm On Nov 29, 2018
*Off-topic*
Just wanted to show ya’ll the newest addition to my arsenal

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