overhypedsteve:
what we ve all being waiting for. Standardisation should be the watchword.

gottfried21:

1:55 "Hit them with the TOW
Hit them with the TOW"

ViceAdmiral:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8tgc4U7WbM

gottfried21:

1.Where did they get them from?
2.How effective against airborne Aircraft?

Kenyan Honour Guard

realnas:
they got them from uncle sam incase u hv forgotten mr obama recently budgeted 500 m dollars for training so called moderate rebels in syria the funny thing is after receiving training and equipment from d americans the moderate rebels simply switch sides and join the extremists and boy trust me a TOW knock out a low flying helo and uavs

gottfried21:

1.Where did they get them from?
2.How effective against airborne Aircraft?

Kenyan Honour Guard

Patchesagain:


1. Saudi's probably... Americans didnt send ATGM's or MANPADS to Syria. The only folks with directly supplied NATO ATGM's are the Kurds

2. Not at all effective...

Also... your vid... the BMP crew survived a direct hit! You dont see that often!

Patchesagain:


hahahahahaha

This made me laugh

Both countries are being dicks with such boundaries. Ooh man, every now and then international politics is so fvcking comical.

realnas:
;Dlmao *falls from chair*ibn that sums up everything hahahahahaha

Patchesagain:


Yep

Standardization could save allot of money ANND dramatically improve operationability of equipment (economies of scale)

You dont want to end up like India... because of their fvcked up procurement system and the fact that they operate an outrageously diverse ammount of equipment they can barely maintain spares/ammo stocks for 20 days of combat

Panzerfaust:
I disagree...India's procurement methods are quite impressive, if you ask me. They have been smart enough compulsorily demand transfer of technology for most of their major equipment. The T-90s, are being produced in India, the Su-30MKIs, by HAL, and several upgrades on the BMP-2s are also locally upgraded. India's biggest military threat isn't Pakistan, as many would believe, but China. One knows that the Chineese and Russians are bedfellows, hence, its smart for the Indians to locally produce Russian equipment. Right now, India is building its own Tanks (Arjun) while importing French made Rafales..So you see, the ability of the Indians to juggle both the East and West is remarkable. Also, country with a massive Army like India cannot make the mistake of standardizing its equipment on a large scale..One MBT, One IFV, one ASF, One Interceptor, One Ground attack aircraft? That's Suicide!

Panzerfaust:
I disagree...India's procurement methods are quite impressive, if you ask me. They have been smart enough compulsorily demand transfer of technology for most of their major equipment. The T-90s, are being produced in India, the Su-30MKIs, by HAL, and several upgrades on the BMP-2s are also locally upgraded. India's biggest military threat isn't Pakistan, as many would believe, but China. One knows that the Chineese and Russians are bedfellows, hence, its smart for the Indians to locally produce Russian equipment. Right now, India is building its own Tanks (Arjun) while importing French made Rafales..So you see, the ability of the Indians to juggle both the East and West is remarkable. Also, country with a massive Army like India cannot make the mistake of standardizing its equipment on a large scale..One MBT, One IFV, one ASF, One Interceptor, One Ground attack aircraft? That's Suicide!

MikeCZAR:


You shouldn't have mentioned the Arjun rubbish and the T-90 together.


Also you shouldn't mention the HAL and the Rafale procurement.

India's procurement system is a mess.

iblawi:


Try to get the point he is making. Read it again and digest it.

MikeCZAR:
Typical trolls. You'll see a surge in their presence in this thread.

Online battle between Pakistanis and Indians. every site it is like they're hired by their governments

India's procurement system is a mess.

nemesis2u:
arjun is a rubbish

if u say so

but the Israeli test teams had a different view called it a desert Ferrari
and were of the opinion that the only way to knock it out was either via
multiple hits at its tracks or getting 50+ kg shaped charged mine to blow underneath it.
base amour defeated Israeli anti tank rounds at point blank range.
main problem is vested interest working for import lobby.


arjun was made to counter abrahm tanks
but when pakistanis opted out of it the indian army lost interest.
which shows the stupidity of some of its generals.
operational and development requirements r made in view of long term plans not short term requirements.
if u keep jumping like a monkey with no goal/plan
even the best equipment will end up being RUBBISH


but plz feel free to have ur opinion

Panzerfaust:
The Arjun is a GREAT tank..But a useless one. The best tank the Paks have to offer is the T-80UD, which India's T-90 Bhishma outclasses. On the other hand, the PLA's Type 99 MBT is nothing but a glorified T-72. The Arjun might seem like an overkill for now, but a step in the right direction..India's military doctrine has always factored in a simultaneous war with both Pakistan and China. Pakistan is NO MATCH for India, but China,....................

Panzerfaust:
I disagree...India's procurement methods are quite impressive, if you ask me. They have been smart enough compulsorily demand transfer of technology for most of their major equipment. The T-90s, are being produced in India, the Su-30MKIs, by HAL, and several upgrades on the BMP-2s are also locally upgraded. India's biggest military threat isn't Pakistan, as many would believe, but China. One knows that the Chineese and Russians are bedfellows, hence, its smart for the Indians to locally produce Russian equipment. Right now, India is building its own Tanks (Arjun) while importing French made Rafales..So you see, the ability of the Indians to juggle both the East and West is remarkable. Also, country with a massive Army like India cannot make the mistake of standardizing its equipment on a large scale..One MBT, One IFV, one ASF, One Interceptor, One Ground attack aircraft? That's Suicide!

gottfried21:
Nam Military offloaded a large weapons and supplies cache from a big cargo plane at the airport...
Saw Kevlar,backpacks,Turrets(Maybe for our wolves) and a few other weapons in trunks
ViceAdmiral

ViceAdmiral:


Those pics were taken on Jan Jonker Afrikaner road definitely..The Russian embassy is just to the right in pic 2(out of the shot)Seems like the convoy was heading to Suiderhof. So who are suppliers this time around?China?

gottfried21:

You see those camouflage vests the Russian pilots are wearing in Syria?yep saw a few of those...The crates had Russian writing on it...so I'm assuming it was the Russians

gottfried21:

You see those camouflage vests the Russian pilots are wearing in Syria?yep saw a few of those...The crates had Russian writing on it...so I'm assuming it was the Russians

ViceAdmiral:


Pics will be out soon of the new stuff

So what caliber is this antique??

gottfried21:

37mm