Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

If I'm correct, AMANI was meant for going after the enemy in it's hiding place(obviously not in urban areas) just like the FIB intervention in DRC.

SANDF

Senegalese Marine commandos

Nigerian navy NNS Unity commander exchanging gifts in Angola

Henry240:

Wow!! The progress we are making is laudable almost unbelievable even. I'm immensely proud. There are now two good companies to compete against each other.

more will follow....the more happy your civilians are,the more they try to thrive...

we have to look that atleast 95% of nigerians are happy with their families then aircraft-carriers would be no problem to be built in nigeria...

we are smart......and have the resources in abundans......but we dont gbadun life....

jakeporeshenko:
Nigerian navy putting in work
Pic 1 seems to be SBS trainees at the range
Pic 2 couple NN ships on patrol, probably Gulf of Guinea

..our warriors and selfies is like 5 and 6......

but,i like it... ...it gives the rest of us confidence....

just dont selfie state-secrets......!.......

patches689:
lol second video posted in one day that shoots a hole in recent criticisms of SANDF exercises...

I dont often miss augubugugugug, but when its a chance to rub his nose in poo, I miss him dearly

but fact still remains,you guys never had real life battles since apartheid....

war,can not be calculated...it is something of experience...

killing someone else is not picknic....

Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

First let me commend our S'African brothers for the successful Operation Amani event which saw the deployment of Brigade size regiments with Logistic in tow.This is the problem were this to use a metaphor to be a Football game they would be considered set pieces I.e. free kicks, Corner Kicks and Penalty Shootouts.
Let me explain the worst of the Boko Haram took place in the built up areas of the North East, ditto what is happening in Syria and now Mosul.
Until BH was kicked to no-man's-land between Nigeria )Chad and Niger this the most likely scenario South Africa is more likely to face, where Battle fields will range over hundreds of kilometers /Miles stretching your Logistics thin and putting a strain on your Air and land logistics.
Set pieces will never work in Goma (Congo). Neither will it work in Mali, I chose these two places to overexaggerate the effect of the vastness between cities.
A particular operation that should of taken place would of realistically be rescuing a company( 300 men) surrounded by hostiles in a chaotic environment where things do not exactly go right.Then you will find out whether it is the system or the Core Leadership that gets it right.

LTGEN:

First let me commend our S'African brothers for the successful Operation Amani event which saw the deployment of Brigade size regiments with Logistic in tow.This is the problem were this to use a metaphor to be a Football game they would be considered set pieces I.e. free kicks, Corner Kicks and Penalty Shootouts.
Let me explain the worst of the Boko Haram took place in the built up areas of the North East, ditto what is happening in Syria and now Mosul.
Until BH was kicked to no-man's-land between Nigeria )Chad and Niger this the most likely scenario South Africa is more likely to face, where Battle fields will range over hundreds of kilometers /Miles stretching your Logistics thin and putting a strain on your Air and land logistics.
Set pieces will never work in Goma (Congo). Neither will it work in Mali, I chose these two places to overexaggerate the effect of the vastness between cities.
A particular operation that should of taken place would of realistically be rescuing a company( 300 men) surrounded by hostiles in a chaotic environment where things do not exactly go right.Then you will find out whether it is the system or the Core Leadership that gets it right.

i am of the opinion,you guys should be practizing defensive strategies...

which serious enemies does south-africa have anyways??..the nigerians??....the kenyans??...

before anybody else reach your side,they need to first past the rest of africa...soooo....whats the point wasting money on offensive??...

you dont have the money anyways.....stop lying to ya selfs.......

Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

Mmmh, SANDF style of training draws lessons from built-up areas - Angolan towns..... When the SADF mechanized (Task Force Zulu) first engaged Angolan liberation fighters it was mostly in towns and they would be driven out quickly. 4 towns were taken in a week including the big territory in between.

However on the video I see plenty of fighting in open areas which makes the "urban environment" debate invalid.

@Gottfried

SAT-COM doing the field test with the Marines

thedarksider:


but fact still remains,you guys never had real life battles since apartheid....

war,can not be calculated...it is something of experience...

killing someone else is not picknic....

Let's not try to dramatise things...

Your current war is not a serious war, Nigerian Armed Forces have more to utilise to crush Boko Haram without even feeling it.... The only time you should start talking about war not being a picnic is when you're facing an enemy deploying conventional war systems like interstate wars. Until then, this one is just a picnic.

ActivateKruger:


Let's not try to dramatise things...

Your current war is not a serious war, Nigerian Armed Forces have more to utilise to crush Boko Haram without even feeling it.... The only time you should start talking about war not being a picnic is when you're facing an enemy deploying conventional war systems like interstate wars. Until then, this one is just a picnic.

do you think i understood it??....short before elections the army started winning against gangster-group...??

does this make sense to you?? bunch of criminals with ak47ns and modified toyota pick-up trucks claiming caliphat......

our black-leaders are useless and wicked....

loook..the fact remains,we have to be ready to defend ourselfs as a black-skin-collective......

see it as you like...wheather south-africa or kenya is stronger than nigeria,,,,i dont care!!!!....



i dont just want to end up like this again................................ .

AAD 2016

giles14:
but dat place don't look like d SE.


above all I hope dey will patronize him .
today of pls hw did u com across d pix

It was a delivery to the military.
I'll say product introduction.

Fynline:
From Innonson

I will personally hawk the honkers back to Poland!!!

#planning

overhypedsteve:
and somebody went to buy the Honkers. those behind that procurement should be probed. are they trying to kill our local industries by buying foreign made products when there are capable locally made one's. that was a very unpatriotic decision. for every foreign product we order, a good number of foreign workers get job placements while our own graduate grapple with unemployment and poverty. IMO probe the fat bastards that bought the honkers.

Amen!!!

overhypedsteve:
and somebody went to buy the Honkers. those behind that procurement should be probed. are they trying to kill our local industries by buying foreign made products when there are capable locally made one's. that was a very unpatriotic decision. for every foreign product we order, a good number of foreign workers get job placements while our own graduate grapple with unemployment and poverty. IMO probe the fat bastards that bought the honkers.

i think its this minister of defence chap Mansur Dan Ali.
look at him at the commissioning.

Odunayaw:
#planning

Is this some kind of maritime surveillance thing ?
Regional Maritime Awareness Capability Centre (RMAC) ?

Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

This nonsense again? Firstly, Amani Africa was not a SANDF Exercise;
Secondly, you and other imbeciles had only a media day display to go by;
Thirdly, I know how many scenarios were exercised that whole month, do you?;
Fourthly, does Henry, Augububug and that video-game playing 12-year old Kenyan idi0t collectively possess knowledge which surpasses all those continental officers who designed the exercise?

Seeing that the answer to all these questions is no, the only explanation is your animus towards SA. Were I a shrink, I'd advise addressing the underlying feeling of inadequacy.

So, dear Henry, un-clench those butt cheeks and avail yourself to some much-needed relief.

lionel4power:

wont all those monitors hanging on the hull fall of if the ship gets hit by a missile attack or shell attack due to spalling effect??

The Casamance rebels, only known armed threat to Senegal, do not possess any sea-going vessels which could threaten Senegal's OPVs.

jakeporeshenko:

Is this some kind of maritime surveillance thing ?
Regional Maritime Awareness Capability Centre (RMAC) ?

yes..some systems at base

jakeporeshenko:


i think its this minister of defence chap Mansur Dan Ali.
look at him at the commissioning.

na commandant(man besyd Bros Ali) order am
Dem suppose press him bele!

LTGEN:

First let me commend our S'African brothers for the successful Operation Amani event which saw the deployment of Brigade size regiments with Logistic in tow.This is the problem were this to use a metaphor to be a Football game they would be considered set pieces I.e. free kicks, Corner Kicks and Penalty Shootouts.

Exercise Amani was a brigade exercise to test out various concepts, from command and control across multi-national structures to company manoeuvre at all levels. No need to congratulate us: we only provided the "battlefield" and equipment. Planning was conducted at AU level - specifically the Peace and Security arm.

Let me explain the worst of the Boko Haram took place in the built up areas of the North East, ditto what is happening in Syria and now Mosul.
Until BH was kicked to no-man's-land between Nigeria )Chad and Niger this the most likely scenario South Africa is more likely to face, where Battle fields will range over hundreds of kilometers /Miles stretching your Logistics thin and putting a strain on your Air and land logistics.
Set pieces will never work in Goma (Congo). Neither will it work in Mali, I chose these two places to overexaggerate the effect of the vastness between cities.

You might want to check out a map of Eastern Congo and the disposition of M23.

A particular operation that should of taken place would of realistically be rescuing a company( 300 men) surrounded by hostiles in a chaotic environment where things do not exactly go right.Then you will find out whether it is the system or the Core Leadership that gets it right.

Out of the 13 scenarios over a month, how many can you factually elaborate?


There's a lot wrong with the AU's conceptualisation of the ASF, none of it picked up by the internet warriors here.

NNS Unity Has Finally Sailed Into The Gulf of Guinea.She Entered Nigerian Territorial Waters Today & Will Anchor In Lagos Tomorrow 4-11-2016

Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

Except the majority of combat in the NE has been in rural or semi rural areas

While the only reason they got to urban areas was the initial inability to provide area security in the peripheral domain.

SANDF formations are hardly cold war, in fact, they are the antithesis of conventional formations, the Brigade Combat Team (B.C.T) is something the Americans adopted in the post cold war era specially to deal with expeditionary warfare against dispersed enemy formation's. SANDF has always been more BCT than Air-Land-Battle


The Marines did a study on it because they are so different

thedarksider:


but fact still remains,you guys never had real life battles since apartheid....

war,can not be calculated...it is something of experience...

killing someone else is not picknic....

Except for the invasions of Lesotho, combat in Bangui and DRC

Training will always supercede combat otherwise the M23 would have thrashed the FIB as the M23 have been fighting since 1994

LTGEN:

First let me commend our S'African brothers for the successful Operation Amani event which saw the deployment of Brigade size regiments with Logistic in tow.This is the problem were this to use a metaphor to be a Football game they would be considered set pieces I.e. free kicks, Corner Kicks and Penalty Shootouts.
Let me explain the worst of the Boko Haram took place in the built up areas of the North East, ditto what is happening in Syria and now Mosul.
Until BH was kicked to no-man's-land between Nigeria )Chad and Niger this the most likely scenario South Africa is more likely to face, where Battle fields will range over hundreds of kilometers /Miles stretching your Logistics thin and putting a strain on your Air and land logistics.
Set pieces will never work in Goma (Congo). Neither will it work in Mali, I chose these two places to overexaggerate the effect of the vastness between cities.
A particular operation that should of taken place would of realistically be rescuing a company( 300 men) surrounded by hostiles in a chaotic environment where things do not exactly go right.Then you will find out whether it is the system or the Core Leadership that gets it right.

SANDF doctrine is based entirely around fighting a dispersed enemy over vast distances - hence wheeled vehicles, organic fire support and admired supply vehicles

Aka: the entire war in Angola

Who watched this? Famuyiwa claimed NAF pulled the NA down twice to win while some people claimed NA won.