Henry240:


Let me drop this comment and clear this up. I fully participated in the criticism of SANDF exercises and still do. Our problem was the over-emphasis of that SANDF style training, not that the training is bad.

Our argument was, when we look at the conflicts in the region, North, West, East and South (Apart from DRC and Mozambique), the fightings were mainly in built up areas, and the sort of training offered at AMANI AFRICA II should reflect this.

It is only now that the enemy(s) has been pushed out of the towns and villages can those AMANI type training be deployed. The times BHT attacked Maiduguri, you don't expect the Nigerian military to respond with Cold War type tactics, now do you?

frumentius:



Seeing that the answer to all these questions is no, the only explanation is your animus towards SA. Were I a shrink, I'd advise addressing the underlying feeling of inadequacy.

So, dear Henry, un-clench those butt cheeks and avail yourself to some much-needed relief.

Patchesagain:


Except for the invasions of Lesotho, combat in Bangui and DRC

Training will always supercede combat otherwise the M23 would have thrashed the FIB as the M23 have been fighting since 1994

thedarksider:



dont underestimate the survival-instinct of white-people....

[b]the ol north-africa was once black....... [/b]

Henry240:


I find it most unfortunate, and truly quite petty that you South-Africans constantly accuse me of having an animosity towards South-Africa. Sharing a contrary view has nothing to do with any animus towards RSA.

frumentius:


Exercise Amani was a brigade exercise to test out various concepts, from command and control across multi-national structures to company manoeuvre at all levels. No need to congratulate us: we only provided the "battlefield" and equipment. Planning was conducted at AU level - specifically the Peace and Security arm.
In the Battle of Bangui that Morphed from Semi Rural to


You might want to check out a map of Eastern Congo and the disposition of M23.
In the Battle of Bangui that transformed from an Urban firefight to Semi Rural and back to Urban.The South African system of Leadership did not work.Instead of Activate Kruger to listen and read between the lines to what Henry,240 is saying he got defensive and turned defensive.
I was being nice Amani was a defensive unrealistic expectations of exercises, it was static and in some cases laughable.
South Africa is involved in peace keeping operations and even in places as rural and **$#@## up as Somalia and Yemen most of the fighting is done either on the edges of towns or inside them.
They are not lumbering static affairs, and please stop comparing the past to the future.They are two entirely different scenarios.The Angola bush wars were not static affairs they were actually kinetic affairs that involved decentralized leadership.
It is interesting the amount of energy spent defending Amani and not looking at it's glaring defects.


Out of the 13 scenarios over a month, how many can you factually elaborate?


There's a lot wrong with the AU's conceptualisation of the ASF, none of it picked up by the internet warriors here.

chkil:


beside it's out of the thread subject , it's false their never been an black population or black old civilisation in north africa ( maghreb) , try google to see history of north africa and civilisation (prehistoric berbers, numidia ect.. )

thedarksider:


na you dey mind dem....they dont see that we love them but we are ready to defend ourselves against anybody,if need be....

they behave like igbos....sorry,pardon me,,,ipobians......

whatever...............

thedarksider:


false.....i am talking of older history....

those light-skinned arabs are the sons and daughters of alexander the greek......

i have nothing against light-skinned arabs...many of them call me brother....i always talk with i know...

we are all known as africans anyways...soooo.....whats your point??...

Henry240:


Enough with your Tribalistic and Racist comments. If you don't have any sense in your head, learn to grow one.

Henry240:


Enough with your Tribalistic and Racist comments. If you don't have any sense in your head, learn to grow one.

tdayof:

thedarksider:


wait a minute...why am i getting bashed here??...i only wrote the historical-truth...

i love reading history...its a passion...soooooo....

whatever...

i am only here to know wheather africa is capable of defending herself,when they come back to colonize us again...

or else,tahhhh,i dont care...

thedarksider:


am sorry....i would like to stay on topic,but i dont have information about the military in africa....

but its nice to know that the black-race is capable of defending herself,through your thread...thats great...!....

tdayof:
lol bro, I. However don't think Africa is capable of defending herself.
I saw a topic on quora which says can all Africa countries defend against US attack?

All answered I saw were no.

xwolverine:


I think to some extent, Africa can effectively defend itself from the US if there's an attack.

Apart from the subs which would be approximately around 10 all together, the Airforce of countries like Egypt, Algeria, Morroco, Tunisia, Angola, Sudan, South Africa, Namibia, Nigeria, Uganda with an array of Sukhois, Rafales, F16s, Northorpe Grumans, Chengdu F7 interceptors, JF-17s and so on, will give America a run for its money.

The population would also play a major role when it comes to ground ops, as well as the air defence of these countries.

It is sometimes easier to defend than attack.

tdayof:


Africa air defence systems are kind of not too strong except for Algeria. I don't know much about SA ADS. I'll be happy if anyone can post pictures of SA ADS and capability.

Moreover, US navy will give us a very hard time on her own.

tdayof:
lol bro, I. However don't think Africa is capable of defending herself.
I saw a topic on quora which says can all Africa countries defend against US attack?

All answers I saw were no.

jln115:

Read the topic, what does it say? So what the fvck are you doing here??

You literally have nothing to ad to this thread!!

thedarksider:


after all what i saw from

nigeria
algeria
egypt
botswana
ghana
south-africa
cameroon

and many others...


yes...

we are capable,if we have one mind....

xwolverine:


I think to some extent, Africa can effectively defend itself from the US if there's an attack.

Apart from the subs which would be approximately around 10 all together, the Airforce of countries like Egypt, Algeria, Morroco, Tunisia, Angola, Sudan, South Africa, Namibia, Nigeria, Uganda with an array of Sukhois, Rafales, F16s, Northtrop F5s, Chengdu F7 interceptors, JF-17s and so on, will give America a run for its money.

The population would also play a major role when it comes to ground ops, as well as the air defence of these countries.

It is sometimes easier to defend than attack.

tdayof:


Africa air defence systems are kind of not too strong except for Algeria. I don't know much about SA ADS. I'll be happy if anyone can post pictures of SA ADS and capability.

Moreover, US navy will give us a very hard time on her own.

iamord:

lol..you see...its good to dream... however some dreams should be left in dream land... america being superpower today was not by wishful thinking but a calculated and coordinated plan to stay in power not for decades but centuries,we are yet to have matured democracy, our culture economy and defense is so porous.. let me not talk of technology! we should concentrate on fighting our enemies within.. thinking we are capable is too far fetched, a prank a witty boy in the school of life should not play.