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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by MostHigh: 4:25pm On Aug 21, 2013
Pretyangel25: So is now pastor's duty to take care of his members? Ok na

look at this pastors daughter. smiley

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Ibfred(m): 4:25pm On Aug 21, 2013
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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by MAYOWAAK: 4:26pm On Aug 21, 2013
If i was the one that said masturbation is not wrong, i know by now my family would have been calling me to warn me and my holy friends would have all deleted or avoid me as they do, but if It's pastor Chris then it's the wisdom from the man of God so no big deal.

If i was the one that say "GOD IS A GAME" My very righteous friends would have long ago blocked me and carry their long faces and accuse me of blasphemy but if it's Pastor Fireman, it's ok!! dare not question the man of God.

If i was the one that publicly slapped a teen by accusing her to be a witch for anything and threaten to slap more, most of my religious and friends would have made the teen's picture their profile pictures demanding for justices but if it's Bishop David, it's the hand of God(maradonna), it's the Holy Ghost slap.

If i demand for 50 million to provide free safe drinkable water in some rural communities, i know most of my Nigerians friends will raise alarm on “fraudsters going on nairaland demanding for money in the name of community service but if our dadddy g.o adeboye asks for 35 billion to build an auditorium that will be used on rare special occasions, it's the holy inspiration and God's project and no one dare questions.

If i keep posting about helping the masses, sharing part of their pain but then i happen to support an anti-masses decision, i know by now i will be the clown of the century, but when Daddy Ayo supported fuel subsidy removal which is anti masses, everyone kept quiet and even the masses, offcourse do you want to attract generational curses by questioning the man of God?...gbosa!!

If i'm claiming to be a humble servant of God but flaunt with my designers glasses, escorts, Louis Vuitton bible, expensive dresses, 3 golden chains on my neck, and private jet to escape traffic jam and enhance comfort, I know most of you would have staged a protest, but the moment i edit my name and add Pastor that solves the trick i become untouchable, unquestionable and unspeakable.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Trut(m): 4:28pm On Aug 21, 2013
@OP, you said it all.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by laughterclub(m): 4:29pm On Aug 21, 2013
MUSLIMS ARE GOOD IN GIVING. TB IS GREAT IN GIVING 2.MY PASTOR DONT GIVE BUT HE TAKES,IF U REFUSE TO PAY U GET BACK SEAT OR U BECOME D BLACK DEVIL D ARE LOOKING FOR.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by infiniteloop(m): 4:31pm On Aug 21, 2013
Follow ifa and it shall be well with you. The problem is all these foreign religions. They are up to no good.

Have you ever wondered why no black man made it to the ark?!

Point is: the big pastors know this. Religion(or church) is just a big FRAUD.

If I begin talk now, this christians will come out with their immunity clause: Touch not. My anointed and do my prophet no harm.

I should state clearly I'm not a member of the rival religion-islam. All I know is: the entirety of the human race is on a long-thing.

Humans seriously think there is one heaven or hell waiting for them! Are you kidding me?!

Humans seriously think the entire universe was, in fact, created for their good.

And they think they are even capable of offending the creator of the universe and he will have their time to even create hell/heaven. That's so incredibly brilliant.

Let's be frank. Shame on all the pastors. All of them. They know they are defrauding these folks and yet insist. Shame on all of them.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by laughterclub(m): 4:31pm On Aug 21, 2013
MostHigh:

It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.

You don forget that one abi

Carnality and spirituality dont mix

you cannot serve God and mammon at the same time smiley
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:33pm On Aug 21, 2013
ooshinibos:

IT IS SCRIPTURAL FOR A CHRISTIAN OR PASTOR TO BE RICH , PEOPLE DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT RICH IMAMS AND MUSLIM when a christian is rich the devil panicks , I PRAY THAT ALL MY PASTORS BE ABUNDANTLY RICH MORE THEN THEIR ENEMIES
please enlighten me on that part of the scripture. I had no idea
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by sunny63(m): 4:33pm On Aug 21, 2013
D writer is poor man.dat is a povert mindset

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:33pm On Aug 21, 2013
yuzedo: [size=18pt]LETS NAME NAMES!! grin angry angry[/size]
ADE=====>If you put BOYE na you Sabi lipsrsealed
OYE=======>if you put DEPO na you Sabi cool

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:35pm On Aug 21, 2013
sunny63: D writer is poor man.dat is a povert mindset


"Whoever mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished." - Proverbs 17:5

"It is a sin to belittle one's neighbor; blessed are those who help the poor" - Proverbs 14:21

"Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done." - Proverbs 19:17




smiley

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by cold(m): 4:35pm On Aug 21, 2013
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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by oiseworld: 4:37pm On Aug 21, 2013
frosbel: Any Pastor who lives in luxury and opulence while his church members are broke and struggling to make two ends meet, is in great danger of damnation.

A Pastor who flies in a private Jet worth millions , while a church mother cannot afford to feed her kids has lost the plot and might be a charlatan.

Any Pastor who lives in a mansion worth millions , while a father in the church cannot pay his house rent and bills has to be a charlatan.

Any Pastor who calls poverty a disease instead of an opportunity to do charity is a crook.

Any Pastor who preaches on Money more than any other subject is definitely a crook.

Any Pastor who abuses , bullies and intimates his broke members because they cannot pay tithes should be arrested and charged with extortion.

Any pastor who keeps the books to himself and team , despite the money belonging to the church members, should be asked to show transparency in all matters of finance , if he refuses, he should be investigated for fraud.

Any Pastor who asks you to hope for Money instead of working for Money is a rogue.

Any Pastor who is close friends to politicians and dubious business men is a compromiser and Demas.


Be warned !!

I'm sure, if you have a congregation of 10 you deffinately would fall guilty of 2 or 3 of the above, talkless of a big church.

So let us hear word.
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:37pm On Aug 21, 2013
@OP,

You are thinking about the Nigerian equivalent of these P.I.M.Ps?

Real Millionaire Preachers of LA [Pastors Living Lavishly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T49VtHl_Fi4

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by LordBabs(m): 4:39pm On Aug 21, 2013
yuzedo: [size=18pt]LETS NAME NAMES!! grin angry angry[/size]
you start first!
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by LagosBoi2(m): 4:40pm On Aug 21, 2013
Pretyangel25: So is now pastor's duty to take care of his members? Ok na


typical mugu
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by oloriooko(m): 4:41pm On Aug 21, 2013
so many babblers on this forum, why don't you start your own church and show them how to run it!
stop hating and start acting!

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by LagosBoi2(m): 4:41pm On Aug 21, 2013
sunny63: D writer is poor man.dat is a povert mindset


potencial mugu
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:42pm On Aug 21, 2013
The reason why many church members are poor is because they have not being applying the kingdom principles that will make them rich and wealthy.Most Pastors are living the life which members are learning from.A pastor have to give of his jeep to hold a program,later on a member sowed the seed of a better car.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by adorable29(f): 4:42pm On Aug 21, 2013
I agree with some of d points but disagree wit some others! Firstly, everybody can't be rich. There are goin to be poor ones till eternity. Secondly are you sayin pastors shouldn't be blessed with wealth? Well, i think they "worked hard" 4 their money after all not all pastors are rich. Suffice to say that not all wealthy pastors are fake... Anyway, who are we to judge?
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by tsmith(f): 4:42pm On Aug 21, 2013
There is CHRISTIANITY and there is STUPIDITY, and often times I wonder what many practice!!!

This is exactly my point on https://www.nairaland.com/1396293/seen-5-yr-old-oluwaseun-ogungbemile/2#17580966

If the people are paying more to the Church than to the Govt, then the Church should take on part of the responsibilties of the Govt. I weak for my people oooh, coz I don't exactly blame the pastors, I blame the gullible people

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Afroconnect: 4:42pm On Aug 21, 2013
Shame on them my brother...
they are far from the path of righteousness,for the Bible clearly states
"by their fruits ye shall know them"
Let the gullible mediocres keep following thinking they can get away with mediocrity on the things of God.
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by oiseworld: 4:43pm On Aug 21, 2013
grin
MAYOWAAK: If i was the one that said masturbation is not wrong, i know by now my family would have been calling me to warn me and my holy friends would have all deleted or avoid me as they do, but if It's pastor Chris then it's the wisdom from the man of God so no big deal.

If i was the one that say "GOD IS A GAME" My very righteous friends would have long ago blocked me and carry their long faces and accuse me of blasphemy but if it's Pastor Fireman, it's ok!! dare not question the man of God.

If i was the one that publicly slapped a teen by accusing her to be a witch for anything and threaten to slap more, most of my religious and friends would have made the teen's picture their profile pictures demanding for justices but if it's Bishop David, it's the hand of God(maradonna), it's the Holy Ghost slap.

If i demand for 50 million to provide free safe drinkable water in some rural communities, i know most of my Nigerians friends will raise alarm on “fraudsters going on nairaland demanding for money in the name of community service but if our dadddy g.o adeboye asks for 35 billion to build an auditorium that will be used on rare special occasions, it's the holy inspiration and God's project and no one dare questions.

If i keep posting about helping the masses, sharing part of their pain but then i happen to support an anti-masses decision, i know by now i will be the clown of the century, but when Daddy Ayo supported fuel subsidy removal which is anti masses, everyone kept quiet and even the masses, offcourse do you want to attract generational curses by questioning the man of God?...gbosa!!

If i'm claiming to be a humble servant of God but flaunt with my designers glasses, escorts, Louis Vuitton bible, expensive dresses, 3 golden chains on my neck, and private jet to escape traffic jam and enhance comfort, I know most of you would have staged a protest, but the moment i edit my name and add Pastor that solves the trick i become untouchable, unquestionable and unspeakable.

You mean even your immediate family don't trust you.

Guy get a life and stop being a Crook.
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Afroconnect: 4:45pm On Aug 21, 2013
oiseworld:

I'm sure, if you have a congregation of 10 you deffinately would fall guilty of 2 or 3 of the above, talkless of a big church.

So let us hear word.
stick to the issue-or do you think a materialistic pastor,who chops congregation's offerings and such without minding the poor and widows is pleasing God?
don't be an educated fool,objectivity makes you see clearly.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:46pm On Aug 21, 2013
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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by shejane: 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2013
@op , dats y u wil continue 2 dwell in poverty, because u belv dat wen u give offerings or tithe u ar giving 2 ur pastor, wen u give offerings or tithe belv or understand dat uar nt helping God or pastor bt connecting ursef 2 ur blessings. Read mala 3:8-12

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Lunar2010: 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2013
sunny63: D writer is poor man.dat is a povert mindset

... very shallow indeed
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by peedeeasobie(m): 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2013
This is a sentimental and emotional thread! Nothing spiritual at all. Go and find out how many churches have been closed thru posts like ds- NONE! Go and find out how many churches dat have reduced tithe incomes in d their accounts because of posts like these- NONE!
U can only correct someone thru prayer or one-on-one correction!
Stop using worldly methods to correct the CHURCH! Don't bcome the "suppose" evil u are trying to fight! Are u led by the spirit of activism or the Spirit of God!

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Nobody: 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2013
stagger:

Which of such pastors have you told this face to face? If you were so concerned about their salvation and their Book of Life status, why not talk to them one on one instead of coming to Nairaland to score cheap popularity points? With your long verbiage, who have you helped? I even doubt you are a Christian when you claim to be one, else you would know what the bible said about what to do when a brother is in the wrong.
grin grin Good points you raised, i actually saw frosbel begging mukina 2 to take this to the front page.So many good materials in the religion section that will edify someone doesn't get to the front page except this recycled garbage.

God knows frosbel messages ends here.He has no insightful messages to teach really.

SMH! For the politics going on in nairaland religion section.

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Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Haywhymido(m): 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2013
Pretyangel25: So is now pastor's duty to take care of his members? Ok na
kip on askin dat silly dat question. U av already bin answer
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by Afroconnect: 4:49pm On Aug 21, 2013
sunny63: D writer is poor man.dat is a povert mindset
even the bible says
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to see God"
is it a crime if you aint rich?
Naija is full of hypocrites,they will rob and steal and cheat-thinking if they go before their materialistic pastors and shout and give part of their money to him it is alright.
read your bible,or better still stop deceiving yourself.
you can not serve God and mormon-religious ignoramus.
Re: Shame On Pastors Who Live In Opulence While Church Members Are Broke!! by haibe(m): 4:49pm On Aug 21, 2013
frosbel: Any Pastor who lives in luxury and opulence while his church members are broke and struggling to make two ends meet, is in great danger of damnation.

A Pastor who flies in a private Jet worth millions , while a church mother cannot afford to feed her kids has lost the plot and might be a charlatan.

Any Pastor who lives in a mansion worth millions , while a father in the church cannot pay his house rent and bills has to be a charlatan.

Any Pastor who calls poverty a disease instead of an opportunity to do charity is a crook.

Any Pastor who preaches on Money more than any other subject is definitely a crook.

Any Pastor who abuses , bullies and intimates his broke members because they cannot pay tithes should be arrested and charged with extortion.

Any pastor who keeps the books to himself and team , despite the money belonging to the church members, should be asked to show transparency in all matters of finance , if he refuses, he should be investigated for fraud.

Any Pastor who asks you to hope for Money instead of working for Money is a rogue.

Any Pastor who is close friends to politicians and dubious business men is a compromiser and Demas.


Be warned !!

As much as i usually love some of your posts, the bit of ignorance it possesses spoils it all making it look like your post doesn't have any truth in it(it does actually).

Solution: Try to see things in a pragmatic way, some of your claims against such pastors can only be possible theoritically, not in reality. For example, if a pastor is rich, being the spiritual fathers of his members, they are also expected to be rich(theoritically, all things being equal) but what if the members are lazy, refusing to pray like the pastor, not following the natural principles of success in life, infact what if the members are not saved at all?? Do you expect them to be rich??

In a church that has millions of members, is it the wealth of one single person(the pastor) that will cater for them all, abi shey pastor no get family too??

I support the fact that pastors should help their members financially but its in reality not possible for him to cater for the financial needs of every single member(in order words there are bound to be poor members).

When a pastor doesn't help at all, then there is a problem, but if he does to a reasonable extent(even though it doesn't seem to obvious), then he has tried and shouldn't be accused of anything.

The fact that Jesus(being capable of providing financially for his followers) had followers doesn't mean they were all rich, i mean it doesn't mean there weren't poor people among all his followers, but they continued following him because of the spiritual needs they get from him.

Same thing happens to most members, they don't come to church money-minded but for spiritual re-fillment, and so not bordered about the riches of their pastors(which is scriptural) knowing he must have done enough in helping the needy but definitely can't help all.

In conclusion, 'some people' remain poor because of their own actions, and you shouldn't blame it on pastors, even if Jesus were to lead us again, some people will still remain poor simple because they have not followed both natural and spiritual laws of success.. E.g, hard work is a natural law of success, being saved, praying, trusting God are spiritual principles for success too.

So bro frosbel, i think you should consider a lot of factors that make members poor before putting the blame on pastors, am sure king solomon wouldn't have made all the people of God rich like him at his time. God bless you.

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