HR.hotness:


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the way i see it we all need to have personal relationship with God,

and that is most important. . .

besides if u don't have anything to give, _{(technically when you're in debt,all that u have isnt necessarily urs)} how d hell would u give 10%?

Anuli ph:

Tithing is a good habit. Thats all that it is. God loves a cheerful giver.
But to refuse to pay sb you owe when you can is a sin.
what if your creditor is really broke? then you take the money to the church.its not even your money, its his money. its equivalent to stealing.
Afterall the Bible also enjoins us not to owe.

taitee:

well i don't think it is right to suspend tithing because the debts are high. no matter what happens or you pass through you should be faithful to God. HE doesn't like fair-weather friends. so matter how heavy you debts are, be faithful and HE will suprise you.

HR.hotness:

so u will pay tithes with money that isnt effectievely yours

Esss:

Ask am O!! Why didnt you go to God in the first place to borrow the money?? Hypocrites

I don talk am before,
If u give 10%, God will be pleased for your contribution.
If u chose freewill offerings, maybe 10% 0r 50%, God will still be
pleased with you.
The bottomline is that it must be done FREELY without COMPULSION.

So, all that guilt trip about thunder striking you if you fail to
commit 10% to your pastor is a ploy to fleace you of your
hard earned money.

Besides, there's no where in scriptures where the tithe is MONEY!
Please show me.

cutie:

hi here
i see this post is becoming people fighting to defend their respective opinions, but i think it shouldnt be so.
We should rather seek to edify one another, and personally, i've learnt a lot from what i read here (be it pros or cons posts) and i come to the conclusion that as one said earlier, paying your tithe is more about obedience to God than anything else.
The Bible says that obedience is better than sacrifice.

"HAS THE LORD AS GREAT DELIGHT IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES, AS IN OBEYING THE VOICE OF THE LORD? BEHOLD TO OBEY IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE AND TO HEED THAN THE FAT OF RAMS"Isaiah 15:22
God is not so much interested in what you give as he is in you obeying his Word. He wants to see his child doing what he asked him to.

Now the Bible also says
"BUT HE WHO DOUBTS IS CONDEMNED IF HE EATS, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT EAT FROM FAITH; FOR WHATEVER IS NOT FROM FAITH IS SIN" (Romans 14:23)
If you pay your tithe because you are told to do so or just to fulfill all righteousness, it can be a good beginning, but God doesnt take pleasure in it, because you don't do it out of faith. Don't forget, "Without faith it is impossible to please God."(Hebrews 11:6) So pay your tithe only out of conviction, ask God to give you that conviction, don't bring condemnation upon yourself.
and to maintain it all we have to be consistent.So Discipline is the word. God wants order to reign in His house Let all things be done decently and in order. 1Corinthians14:40 The commandment is for the church, but it is clear that we should take it to ourselves, because WE are the Church. Its not when you want, you give; when you don't want, you don't give, that would be too easy!
Let's try and take God more seriously. Just as you can't afford not to pay your taxes, decide that you can't afford not to pay your tithe. How can you pay more respect to a creature than to the creator??
The race is difficult, Jesus doesnt promise a smooth path, but he promises to get us to the goal. His Grace is sufficient for us.
I wonder why we even worry about debtors, because "When a man's ways are pleasing to the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him (Proverbs 16:7) So whatever financial difficulties you find yourself into, your own is just to be blameless before your God, he will never abandon you.
Difficult or even unthinkable doesnt mean impossible so let's not always try to explain things with our intelligence, but to lean on the Word of God at all times. We can't understand everything, we're only human beings,
so remember OBEDIENCE FAITH AND DISCIPLINE
God bless you all

The poster is talking about completely suspending any giving to God in order to pay off debts, that will be wrong.

If you have a lot of debt, can you temporarily stop tithing while paying off the debt?

javarules:


I earn 20k a month and I owe someone 38k due to some business deal gone bad. Anyway after some discussions we came to agreement that I pay the money over 5 months which means 7.6k per month. 20k is not enough for me considering the standard of living in the city where I live, minus 7.6K from it and you are left with what you can actually call peanuts. But still I pay my tithe of 2k. What I have left is 10K or so and going by the economy of man, that money should last me for a week! But its been three months now and I can't remember a month when I don't have over 2k with me on a daily basis. In actually fact my budget is a little over 2k per day. Now call it fluke or whatver you want, i know its God. Thats my personal revelation, I CAN NEVER STOP PAYING MY TITHE. So for those who say tithe is not important or not relevant, fine go ahead, I pray that God will also give u a personal revelation. Remember that when Saul(converted Paul) was killing the disciples, he actually thought HE WAS WORKING FOR GOD. A personal revelation changed all that.

My 2 cents

Chookym:

Tithe is the primary thing. Pay it first.

Tithing is a debt to God Thats why the work "PAY" is used along side it as in "PAY YR TITHE". while offering is voluntry that why the worg "Give " is used along side it, as in "GIVE YR OFFERING"

, Our one unalterable duty toward other people is that we love them, dealing with them as we want them to deal with us (Matthew 7:12). All of us want people to pay the debts they owe us. Therefore, as Christians, we should “Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For this, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET,’ and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law” (Romans 13:8-10),

SAM MILLA:

WAIT, I may sound a little Blasphemous here but don't you think
God will blame you for paying tithe while you are being ejected from your house by your landlord,
Which could result in your death if you encounter trouble outside.
Then you knock on the heaven doors and expect the Lord to hug you,
Because you paid tithe instead of house rent?
Especially if you could have paid the house rent with the tithe money.
Or would you prefer God to punishing the landlord for throwing out?
Sometimes i think people misunderstand the meaning of living a life.
How about doubling the tithe or tripling it when you have enough resources ?

My advice, pay house rent.

KunleOshob:

@javarules
I agree with you there is a lot of blessings associated with giving. nd i believe God would bless you as you continue to give. But as far as the issue of tithing is concerned, it as no place in christianity and that is why Jesus never preached it, even the apostles that spread christianity in the new testament never preached. It is a mordern day doctrine that is being presented as the word of God through the Manipulation of Malachi 3:10 . I am not saying you shouldn't give to the church what i am saying is that churches that preach tithing are deceiving their members and it is very wrong for a church to engage in deception. Preaching tithes = obtaining by false pretence=419

kola oloye:

God is not asking you for your house rent as a tithe,what he demands is just 10% of your income or profit.
There is no way that your house rent would be equal to your tithe. Let us learn to trust God and not lean
on our own understanding.Don't forget what i said before"God is Faithful".He will not allow His own to suffer.

SAM MILLA:

WAIT, I may sound a little Blasphemous here but don't you think
God will blame you for paying tithe while you are being ejected from your house by your landlord,
Which could result in your death if you encounter trouble outside.
Then you knock on the heaven doors and expect the Lord to hug you,
Because you paid tithe instead of house rent?
Especially if you could have paid the house rent with the tithe money.
Or would you prefer God to punishing the landlord for throwing out?
Sometimes i think people misunderstand the meaning of living a life.
How about doubling the tithe or tripling it when you have enough resources ?

My advice, pay house rent.