eboweme:

Oh boy no try am o, I was robbed at near Toyota of recently just because I refused to pay my tithe. Please be warned.

The poster is talking about completely suspending any giving to God in order to pay off debts, that will be wrong.

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If you have a lot of debt, can you temporarily stop tithing while paying off the debt?

The poster is talking about completely suspending any giving to God[u] in order to pay off debts[/u], that will be wrong.

eboweme:

Oh boy no try am o, I was robbed at near Toyota of recently just because I refused to pay my tithe. Please be warned.

Allta:

One thing I don't like is people keep saying bad things happen to them because they missed thief tithe.

I have said it before and will say it again, that is utter rubbish. I've never paid tithe in my life and I've never been robbed before. Tithing is a thing of the spirit that needs personal conviction from God. If you pay it fine, if you don't fine all the same. 90% of the world's richest people never pay tithes and aren't even christians self. The richest man in Nigeria is not a Christian.

God loves a cheerful giver, be it in offering and/or tithe. God will NEVER punish any one he loves because they skipped their tithe, God is not like man, he loves both the justs and the unjusts. He sent his son to die for the sins of men, that includes Christian, Non-Christians, the Tithers and the Non-Tithers.

Having said all these, it doesn't make perfect sense to go out of the Church, borrow money and not pay back. Even bible says owe no one money, Pay your rents, pay your debts, God sees your heart and knows you're not robbing him. If you're in need, go to Church and speak to your pastor, don't go to the bank and incur debt in the first place. Isn't the same Bible that says Debtors are servants to those who lend them. If you owe 7months house rent and someone gives you money, would you risk getting evicted just to pay tithe, That's utter foolishness. God wouldn't punish you for paying your rents, he's not a wicked God please.

He specifically said no evil will befall us, he said many will fall on our right hand and left, but they will not come near you. He said he will supply all our needs according to his riches in Christ Jesus. Guess what, none of those have TITHING as conditions attached to them.

Like I said earlier, if you're ok with paying tithe, we bless God for you. But don't tell us God will allow/do bad things to happen to people who don't

eboweme:

Oh boy no try am o, I was robbed at near Toyota of recently just because I refused to pay my tithe. Please be warned.

orisebawo:

when a man gets N100 a month

Pays
N50 in rent
N10 in bills
N30 in Transportation to work
N10 for food
N20 for maintenance of loan.

How much tithes does he pay if we agree he has to pay 10% of his earnings, from the above example this guy has not earned anything and his in debt of N20 every month, does he then increase his debt to N30 or does he wait until such a time where his income is higher than his expenditure.

In most cases where all your bills are on direct debit and they go out on the same day your salary comes in, and leaves you with a net balance of N30 overdraft, how do you pay your tithes? and if you decide to pay it at all cost and incure additional debt, then how do you pay off the debt.

Mark12:43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on."

In the frist instance tithing is not required of you by God as a christian. This topic as been exhaustively discussed in a similar thread i suggest you read it. It is titled "the truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes" Check it out via the link below

Allta:

Man, we both know Christ wasn't talking about Tithe in Mark12:43. As Christians, we need to give willingly because God loves a cheerful giver. Man I can't shout, but I know I've been doing even more than 10% of my earnings in offerings & cheerful giving. Both unto the Church and outside Church, becuase that's who I am ,  a natural giver.

You can't give what you don't have, the poor woman in Mark 12:43 had something to live on, and she did put everything down in offering, not TITHE!

Can you also remember when Disciples were asking Christ to sell an anointing oil from the Alabaster box woman and pay the poor with it? Here Christ's own response in his words (documented by Matt, Mark and Luke):

Mk 14: 4-9
4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? 5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. they murmured against her. 6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. 7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. 8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying. 9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

joomiegal:

the above quote was made by kunleOshob.
@ KunleOshob,
so because it has been "exhaustively discussed in a thread", and your conclusion was that God does not require it, he should take it as Gospel?

Na wa o!

brein:

Hey, No matter what, none is allowed to rub God READ Malachi 3:8-10 and get more details about paying tithe, its a must duty for all Christians, so please do not be deceieved by anyone.

Cheers. and God help you AND help us all.

luluosas:

God forbid. I rather pay my tithe and let my creditor land me in jail.

KunleOshob:

Some people perish for lack of knowledge, how sad

kola oloye:

Which knowledge are you talking about again?It will never be wrong,doing the right thing rightly.

This post is quite funny because it brought out the truth about religion being the opium of the masses.
Don't you know that debt is not income and tithe is paid out of income.
Your debt is not part of your income but liability, you can only pay tihthe out of what is remaining from the settlement of your liabilities.

5And it is true that those descendants of Levi who are charged with the priestly office are commanded in the Law to take tithes from the people--which means, from their brethren--though these have descended from Abraham.
6But this person who has not their Levitical ancestry received tithes from Abraham [himself] and blessed him who possessed the promises [of God].

8Furthermore, here [in the Levitical priesthood] tithes are received by men who are subject to death; while there [in the case of Melchizedek], they are received by one of whom it is testified that he lives [perpetually].
9A person might even say that Levi [the father of the priestly tribe] himself, who received tithes (the tenth), paid tithes through Abraham,

10For he was still in the loins of his forefather [Abraham] when Melchizedek met him [Abraham].

14For it is obvious that our Lord sprang from the tribe of Judah, and Moses mentioned nothing about priests in connection with that tribe.

15And this becomes more plainly evident when another Priest arises Who bears the likeness of Melchizedek, †1
16Who has been constituted a Priest, not on the basis of a bodily legal requirement [an externally imposed command concerning His physical ancestry], but on the basis of the power of an endless and indestructible Life.
17For it is witnessed of Him, You are a Priest forever after the order (with the rank) of Melchizedek. †2
18[u]So a previous physical regulation and command is cancelled [/u]because of its weakness and ineffectiveness and uselessness--
19For the Law never made anything perfect--but instead a better hope is introduced through which we [now] come close to God.

6[It is He] Who has qualified us [making us to be fit and worthy and sufficient] as ministers and dispensers of a new covenant [of salvation through Christ], not [ministers] of the letter (of legally written code) but of the Spirit; for the code [of the Law] kills, but the [Holy] Spirit makes alive. †2
7Now if the dispensation of death engraved in letters on stone [the ministration of the Law], was inaugurated with such glory and splendor that the Israelites were not able to look steadily at the face of Moses[b] because of its brilliance[/b], [a glory] that was to fade and pass away, †3
8Why should not the dispensation of the Spirit [this spiritual ‡2 ministry whose task it is to cause men to obtain and be governed by the Holy Spirit] be attended with much greater and more splendid glory?
9[b]For if the service that condemns [the ministration of doom] had glory[/b], how infinitely more abounding in splendor and glory must be the service that makes righteous [the ministry that produces and fosters righteous living and right standing with God]!
10Indeed, in view of this fact, what once had splendor [ ‡3 the glory of the Law in the face of Moses] has come to have no splendor at all, because of the overwhelming glory that exceeds and excels it [ ‡4 the glory of the Gospel in the face of Jesus Christ].
11For if that which was but passing and fading away came with splendor, how much more must that which remains and is permanent abide in glory and splendor!
12Since we have such [glorious] hope (such joyful and confident expectation), we speak very freely and openly and fearlessly.
13Nor [do we act] like Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze upon the finish of the vanishing [splendor which had been upon it].
14In fact, their minds were grown hard and calloused [they had become dull and had lost the power of understanding]; for until this present day, when the Old Testament (the old covenant) is being read, that same veil still lies [on their hearts], not being lifted [to reveal] that in Christ it is made void and done away.
15Yes, down to this [very] day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their minds and hearts.
16But whenever a person turns [in repentance] to the Lord, the veil is stripped off and taken away.
17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty (emancipation from bondage, freedom). †4

This post is quite funny because it brought out the truth about religion being the opium of the masses.
Don't you know that debt is not income and tithe is paid out of income.
Your debt is not part of your income but liability, you can only pay tihthe out of what is remaining from the settlement of your liabilities.