Godson201333: I am living in Europe and i am starting to believe that this racism thingy can be favorable at times.You see that is why Europe is very cleaned and organized than USA.I know there too and when i say very clean i mean very clean but the racism here is higher than USA.

It is just because we black people some of us are violent,dangerous and some do not even have focus.If you see people fighting here they are blacks,If they organize a party they are gonna fight at the end,many of us are just bad..

The rate of blacks going to school here too is very low,we just wanna make quick money.

any body who dies of hunger in naija is just too lazy to work, cmon from car wash to customer bringer in computer village...... naija is practically hustle zone....................i'm not saying ppl should stay in naija.. but they should learn hustling skills first.......

jerryben12: 3. Life is toughER for Immigrants in America. From not having a SSN to get jobs, to people simply discriminating for your "accent". You will LEARN that America is not the least bit tolerant for immigrants. Especially if you come to places that are predominantly white. Unfortunately what I end up seeing Nigerians adopt is the "akata" way. A LOT of them end up trying to speak ebonics and they just sound silly and ridiculous. "nigggaz is tryna hoop yo". No. Your azz never hooped before when did you become a "niggga tryna hoop"?
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Not totally true. Your confidence will see you through. If you don't mix with the right people and portray yourself for who you are, you will not progress. Accent is not a ground for discrimination. Nigerians speak better than Indians but you see more Indians in Corporate America. My humble message come advise here is 'raise your confidence, mix with the right crowd, break silence and start conversations'. We are smart but we get intimidated with what we see.

kpolli:
You couldn't survive in Nigeria yet you claim every Nigerian has hustling mentality; they can live anywhere.....

lestat: @ OP,
It pisses me off whenever I see fools abroad telling Nigerians how to face reality, dumb tards!!! Tell them also about uche who is working for AT & T and doing well, tell them!! If you failed at your dreams doesn't mean you should spread your own bitterness around trying to dissuade people from trying? I happen to know a lot of peeps who left for America and are doing very well in America,i even have a neighbor who thanks the Lord everyday for winning Visa lottery because he was a primary school teacher here but now he is raising his daughters in a Good society.
Guy get a life no one asked for your advise if your dreams died because you failed to set realistic goals that's your own sub story, stop wasting your time trying to tell others how bad America is oga.
Leave that to Prof Wole soyinka he is a million times smarter than you yet he has never come out to tell Nigerian this about the same America he lives in!!! Abeg go and continue serving your jail time in peace!!!!

Oga shut up and go back to Nigeria.. please no one should allow this fool deceive you o!!! America is a billion times better for you than Nigeria. From feeding, housing, security, and society that works!!! You van never compare the unemployment rate in Nigeria to that in America, graduates in Nigeria are worse off.

The OP probably came to America to get fast money and he got arrested and now he spends his time in prison writing crap on nairaland. America is the only country in the world where you can make it if you are disciplined, hard working, and focused even without a formal education.

America rewards creativity and hard work but punished mediocrity and laziness.

This is why a lot of Nigerians have problems in America, you need to realize the definition of success has a different meaning in Nigeria than it does to the rest of the world!!!

Nigerians believe they are successful only if they own a house, have latest cars. Have lots of money in the bank with lots of poor friends to show it off to.

This is the problem with Nigerians, they don't realize that when u have a 9-5 job that takes care of your bills, you can send your kids to good schools, drive a decent car and pay your taxes then u are okay!!!
OP you are a fool!!!

lestat: @ OP,
It pisses me off whenever I see fools abroad telling Nigerians how to face reality, dumb tards!!! Tell them also about uche who is working for AT & T and doing well, tell them!! If you failed at your dreams doesn't mean you should spread your own bitterness around trying to dissuade people from trying? I happen to know a lot of peeps who left for America and are doing very well in America,i even have a neighbor who thanks the Lord everyday for winning Visa lottery because he was a primary school teacher here but now he is raising his daughters in a Good society.
Guy get a life no one asked for your advise if your dreams died because you failed to set realistic goals that's your own sub story, stop wasting your time trying to tell others how bad America is oga.
Leave that to Prof Wole soyinka he is a million times smarter than you yet he has never come out to tell Nigerian this about the same America he lives in!!! Abeg go and continue serving your jail time in peace!!!!

Oga shut up and go back to Nigeria.. please no one should allow this fool deceive you o!!! America is a billion times better for you than Nigeria. From feeding, housing, security, and society that works!!! You van never compare the unemployment rate in Nigeria to that in America, graduates in Nigeria are worse off.

The OP probably came to America to get fast money and he got arrested and now he spends his time in prison writing crap on nairaland. America is the only country in the world where you can make it if you are disciplined, hard working, and focused even without a formal education.

America rewards creativity and hard work but punished mediocrity and laziness.

This is why a lot of Nigerians have problems in America, you need to realize the definition of success has a different meaning in Nigeria than it does to the rest of the world!!!

Nigerians believe they are successful only if they own a house, have latest cars. Have lots of money in the bank with lots of poor friends to show it off to.

This is the problem with Nigerians, they don't realize that when u have a 9-5 job that takes care of your bills, you can send your kids to good schools, drive a decent car and pay your taxes then u are okay!!!
OP you are a fool!!!

ozo_emeka: If you’re extremely talented or intelligent, the US is probably the best place in the world to live. The system is stacked heavily to allow people of talent and advantage to rise to the top quickly.

The problem with the US is that everyone thinks they are of talent and advantage. As John Steinbeck famously said, the problem with poor Americans is that “they don’t believe they’re poor, but rather temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” It’s this culture of self-delusion that allows America to continue to innovate and churn out new industry more than anyone else in the world. But this shared delusion also unfortunately keeps perpetuating large social inequalities and the quality of life for the average citizen lower than most other developed countries. It’s the price we pay to maintain our growth and economic dominance

American people on average work more hours with less vacation, spend more time commuting every day, and are saddled with over $10,000 of debt. That’s a lot of time spent working and buying crap and little time or disposable income for relationships, activities or new experiences.

Pasca07: Hmmm funny thread @honey and ozo emeka... Have u ever been to nigeria and see how people are suffering?it is better to be poor in america than to be poor in nigeria .nigeria is a dead zone if you are poor.Stop fooling urself with all dis baseless observation because every reasonable youth is ready to leave dis useless country called nigeria.

Pasca07: If u are not well connected in nigeria there is nothing for u.

shymexx:

I thought you said I should stop quoting you, however, how come you're stuck on quoting my posts? Basically, I expected better from someone who claims to be living large in La-La land. Faking it till you make it, yes? And if you're going to tell porkies next time, make sure you can measure up to the lies you're telling. Initially, I wasn't going to post a comment on the thread, but I had to call you out for your lies. You lot need to stop selling fictitious dreams to Nigerians - it's counter-productive. Most of these people leave Nigeria with the hope of making it to the top easily across the Atlantic based on some of the lies you lot spew on here, only to end up creating nuisance, making babies like dogs, engaging in crimes and scrounging for help - on the other side. Thus contributing their own destruction to the already messed up black family in diaspora and tarnishing the image of Nigeria.

No place on this planet is rosy and selling dreams to people isn't the way forward. The most important thing in life is adaptability and your ability to make something out of any environment you find yourself. There are tons of successful people in Nigeria, who're definitely more comfy than over 90% of the Nigerian pikeys wandering around the world with no caravans.

Anyway, don't worry about me. I've lived all my life here and I know how to get it out here. This is my freaking town, we built this city!

I'm out, yo!!

X-factoria:


Thank you jare.....a lot of the comments here, especially from the OP are exaggerated or maybe he is generalizing based on his own experience. I see that he pasted close pictures of NYC which suggests to me that he lives in NYC. Living and surviving in NYC is harder, just like living in any big city in the world. The good thing about the US is that the opportunities are spread everywhere i.e. the opportunities are not skewed to the lofty states like NY or CA alone.

I have been here for 14 months on a student visa, studying for an MBA in a top school (will graduate in May 2014) and I already have a job offer for a 6 digit annual salary. It didn't come easy and it didn't happen like that for everyone but almost all the guys who came here to study, that I know, have got something doing and they are not watching plates or parking faeces. They have decent jobs! By the way, I am in Columbus City in the state of Ohio and I have met a lot of Nigerians here in academics, medicine and engineering who are doing really well. I joined a Yoruba Club 21 group and almost everyone there have been here for more than 20 years and they have decent jobs and income. Nevertheless, there are a few who fit into the lifestyles that the OP is trying to describe. They came here for the wrong reasons - to look for riches or wealth that fall from heaven!

I think the OP did a good job trying to point out the racism and the challenges here. My take on this are the following:

1. You should define your reasons for coming here before you do. If you are coming here without the hope of first getting education or any vocational training, you might end up frustrated. It means you have to be contented with working menial jobs (even if you have a degree from a Nigerian University) and be prepared to work as many of them to keep up if you have a family to support.

2. If you are coming here to look for wealth or riches, don't bother try to apply for visas. Its harder to be rich here than in Nigeria. One thing is sure though, you are sure to be liberated from poverty if you are not lazy. So if the reason for leaving Nigeria is just to have a decent live, and you are ready to work as hard as you do in Nigeria (and more if you have a family) and be law abiding, you will have no problem.

3. Know that a lot of African Americans are lazy, be prepared to live with their hostilities. Never try to stay in their neighborhood. You will get a better deal being friends to white folks that African Americans.

Good luck to anyone who will heed these advises.

kaka22: I think that Op's topic is useful for intending migrants... From what I can deduce from the topic and all what emeka said, USA may not be as rosy as most of us thought it would be. It should be noted Emeka took cognisance of the fact that some Nigerians are succeeding in the states while others are not due to lack of preparation,focus et cetera. What caused the arguments, insults was the fact that most people did not read in between the line... Most Nigerians ordinarily don't like people telling/advising them not to do what they have planned to do or painting a picture that is different from what they have in mind... Please let's try and read in between the line. Let's also have spirit of tolerance... My own opinion

Lucasbalo: . That's the problem with you. Like I said in my earlier post. I came to US when I was barely 18 years old on student visa by the grace of God and the willing assistance of my parents. I am in my mid thirties now. When I was your age , I thought I knew everything . But people much older and wiser called me to bahave. I am sure glad for that now. I am married with 3 beautiful daughters. All I am telling you is that humility will help you through your sojourn in life. Don't ever think you have Solomonic wisdom. Nobody does. I don't have anything against you personally. It's just your condescending attitude towards people that disagree with you. No animose against you on my part. I know how I was at 21, almost get kicked out of college and my student visa almost revoked. Thank God I changed because my life could have been ruined. I am not patronizing you but telling you reality of life especially this our violent society we call home. Peace and good luck to you. Wishing the best in all your undertakings in life. Once again , I have nothing against you because of my deep faith.

prince_onx:

99% of what you just spill out your trap is BS! You obviously have never been to an auction. Send me a pm and I will take you to auctions where they don't have cars older than 5yrs or less than $5,000
Get your facts str8 and stop blabbing on www! If you think American is that bad why not try places like Iraq or Afganistan or better still go back home (Nigeria) or are you homeless?

lestat: @ OP,
It pisses me off whenever I see fools abroad telling Nigerians how to face reality, dumb tards!!! Tell them also about uche who is working for AT & T and doing well, tell them!! If you failed at your dreams doesn't mean you should spread your own bitterness around trying to dissuade people from trying? I happen to know a lot of peeps who left for America and are doing very well in America,i even have a neighbor who thanks the Lord everyday for winning Visa lottery because he was a primary school teacher here but now he is raising his daughters in a Good society.
Guy get a life no one asked for your advise if your dreams died because you failed to set realistic goals that's your own sub story, stop wasting your time trying to tell others how bad America is oga.
Leave that to Prof Wole soyinka he is a million times smarter than you yet he has never come out to tell Nigerian this about the same America he lives in!!! Abeg go and continue serving your jail time in peace!!!!

Oga shut up and go back to Nigeria.. please no one should allow this fool deceive you o!!! America is a billion times better for you than Nigeria. From feeding, housing, security, and society that works!!! You van never compare the unemployment rate in Nigeria to that in America, graduates in Nigeria are worse off.

The OP probably came to America to get fast money and he got arrested and now he spends his time in prison writing crap on nairaland. America is the only country in the world where you can make it if you are disciplined, hard working, and focused even without a formal education.

America rewards creativity and hard work but punished mediocrity and laziness.

This is why a lot of Nigerians have problems in America, you need to realize the definition of success has a different meaning in Nigeria than it does to the rest of the world!!!

Nigerians believe they are successful only if they own a house, have latest cars. Have lots of money in the bank with lots of poor friends to show it off to.

This is the problem with Nigerians, they don't realize that when u have a 9-5 job that takes care of your bills, you can send your kids to good schools, drive a decent car and pay your taxes then u are okay!!!
OP you are a fool!!!

ozo_emeka: THANK YOU- COMMON SENSE

The summary of this thread:

Nigerians make it anywhere in the world. So do people of other Nations - americans etc. Going to America without a plan may land you in situations you did not prepare of because TV sells a one-sided picture of America.

You would think after this summary EVERYBODY will READ. Watch out for more people making comments like
"So you are saying Nigeria is better "
"Because you are facing difficulty doesn't mean people don't succeed"
"If it is too hard for you come to Nigeria"
"I agree with some of the OPs point but Nigerians can make it anywhere, I know this because I have an MD, PhD, MBA, MPH, MSC, etc"


Even though I have made a 2 line summary. Watch more stupiid comments.


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Precioussilas10: If someone puts your assertions into consideration,he/she is likely to give it up.SO leave talk 4 market women.in fact,just die all die it.Anybody wey wanto go make him go.if d tin favour am,fyn but if d tin no favouram,him come bak.END OF STORY.

ozo_emeka: ozo_emeka: If you’re extremely talented or intelligent, the US is probably the best place in the world to live. The system is stacked heavily to allow people of talent and advantage to rise to the top quickly.

The problem with the US is that everyone thinks they are of talent and advantage. As John Steinbeck famously said, the problem with poor Americans is that “they don’t believe they’re poor, but rather temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” It’s this culture of self-delusion that allows America to continue to innovate and churn out new industry more than anyone else in the world. But this shared delusion also unfortunately keeps perpetuating large social inequalities and the quality of life for the average citizen lower than most other developed countries. It’s the price we pay to maintain our growth and economic dominance

American people on average work more hours with less vacation, spend more time commuting every day, and are saddled with over $10,000 of debt. That’s a lot of time spent working and buying crap and little time or disposable income for relationships, activities or new experiences.

babyosisi: Available to answer questions and give honest advice about living in America
The true picture from a Nigerian American

https://www.nairaland.com/1465852/ask-me-questions-americastraight-talk

Allohrandy: Those are black Areas. You hardly see whites living in those streets. cities like Oakland, Baltimore, DC, ATL, Bronx NY and detriot has a very high black population. The fact is whites are well off than blacks in America because of discrimination and racism. The black unemployment rate is twice that of whites. There are more black men in prisons than they are in colleges. Infact 1 out of 7 black men in America is either in jail or has been in prison. The America system has failed black people in US and proverty rate among blacks is higher than any other race. Infact a white man with a criminal record has a higher chance of getting a job than a black man with a college degree because White still control US economy and they are very few black millioniares in American. most of the black millioniares are either in sports or entertaiment and you hardly see black American millioniares in wall street. 50 years after Martin Luther King died there is still racism in America

ozo_emeka: If you spoke like this before we would have nailed your point on the head. 10 pages later and you want to play the father figure, with a deep rooted sense of christianity?
You don't know me to diagnose "a problem with me"

Well, I agree humility is key.

biafranqueen: Are you really advising youths to get married for greencard as a strategy . So what if somebody from 9ja does that to your daughter? I know your just trying to help honey but my experience has shown that it usually backfires and creates a mess of everyone's life especially children, be careful biko

Afam4eva:
Things have definitely gotten better since Martin Luther King and they will keep getting better for Black people in America. The fact that you have a black president does not give credence to the gargantuan racism that you have painted. Granted that there is racism in America just like everywhere in the world including Nigeria, i think the minority population have been given the opportunity to succeed through affirmative action and other policies and some have taken that opportunity. It will take a very long time to see a massive effect of these policies cos blacks have been dealt a deadly blow in the past.

oluwaseunsewe: This is the cult of rhetoric behind the phrase, “greatest country in the world.” Americans have so much more than many around the globe. Americans have earned this. Americans have fought for this. Patriotism is acknowledging that the United States is top dog.when you keep complaning abt america then you personally should check your self, i have lived in the united state for eleven yrs, i became a us citizen 6 yrs ago, i have my own business and i am worth above a million dollars, pls tell me if i was in nigeria will i have gotten all this in 11 yrs with out been a politician, the fact remains that if you not hard working you can never never make it in america, if you cant afford it dont buy it, thats the trick abt this country, the fact its not wrking for you does nt make you a failure, wit out a good credit you cant make it here, when you build ur credit and you not trying to impress any one you will realise how grate this country,with a us passport you can travel to most contries in the world with out a visa tell me can you do the same with a nigeria passport, my advise is nigeria has never had any thing to offer its citizens, SO PLS STOP GIVING A FALSE IMPRESION ABT THIS GREAT COUNTRY,GOD BLESS AMERICA...