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You are saying you don't know the fada of the area boys in lagos

E go soon be 2015

They are already out in force..

See d way vio and lastma dey extort

Ok.. If you feel it's not a bashing thread..

kulyie: 'jagaban of africa' is not his mentor,even if he is his mentor,he is JUST A POLITICAL MENTOR AND NOTHING MORE. For example,it is possible for an intelligent man who is a smoker to be mu mentor.however,i will only pick the good traits in him and leave the bad.meanwhile i dont think it is degenrating into a 'male bashing thread',its just calling mem back home and reminding them of their roles and responsibilities and also to leave awon oni idi gigans,alaye bibajes who have nothing more to offer more than their slack vagynas alone and come home,simple!

zeb04: Me I dnt undstnd wat d op is getin at oh,is it only nigerians dat ve dis issue. I feel it an individual thing cz my dad really played with me as a child oh. Nd I dnt tink navshile is hard on him,u can't jst start insultin nigerians nd go free,moreova nigeria has problms also oda countries do 2. We wil get there someday

When will we get there if we fail to take criticsms in good faith without coming out guns-blazing??... if you had read what he posted clearly,you'll see where he said he posts all the points he stated in other country's forums as well to spread the word,so it's not about Nigeria per se.

..besides, the fact that your dad dotted on you does not mean that thats the norm in our society and you know that for a fact so lets not pretend please.

Ngokafor: When will we get there if we fail to take criticsms in good faith without coming out guns-blazing??...besides if you had read what he posted clearly,you'll see where he said he posts all the points he stated in other country's forums as well to spread the word,so it's not about Nigeria per se.

..besides, the fact that your dad dotted on you does not mean that thats the norm in our society and you know that for a fact so lets not pretend please.

gbam! You have said it all

carefreewannabe: I think op didn't find the right words to address an important issue but I also think that he has some good points that we should think about.
Africans AND Black Americans have the reputation of being "baby makers" in Europe leaving back black and white mommas. A child here, another there.

I know prejudices are not a good thing but I also believe that this reputation is due to their behaviour.

Many Nigerian fathers provide for their kids financially and that's it. The problems the country has start in the family. Men make babies, provide fiancially and want to be celebrated like kings at home. There is more to raising a child. I know lots of fathers who bring money home (if at all) but are not able to do more. I pity these children.

..some dont even provide financially as such ..shouting 50/50 all over the place..

pickabeau1: You are saying you don't know the fada of the area boys in lagos

E go soon be 2015

They are already out in force..

See d way vio and lastma dey extort

Ok.. If you feel it's not a bashing thread..

the area boys in lagos are evidences of failed fathers,failed homes and failed marriages,unfortunatly some politicians are using them as a means to an end and want to keep them perpetually in the streets so that they can be using them for elections while their own kids are in the u.k and u.s and of which they check on them regularly.you think politicians are daft.by the way if fathers play their roles well,there will be little or no touts in the streets of lagos and Nigeria.infact there will be no urchins to use for election hooliganism and i will be able to walk on the streets of oshodi,palmgroove,marina etc to dispense cash from the atm at after 2 am.any one wey try that one in any part of Nigeria.na die he dey

hahaha//OYO ni yen... shipeolu at 2....

pickabeau1: hahaha//OYO ni yen... shipeolu at 2....

lmao

OP made very good points. But many of the things he mentioned, many fathers in Nigeria aren't privileged to do, at least the poor ones. How many families in Nigeria have a bicycle to use? They're busy trying to survive and put food on the table first. Nigerian's corruption is a collective problem and you can't blame it on Fathers alone.

Yield: OP made very good points. But many of the things he mentioned, many fathers in Nigeria aren't privileged to do, at least the poor ones. How many families in Nigeria have a bicycle to use? They're busy trying to survive and put food on the table first. Nigerian's corruption is a collective problem and you can't blame it on Fathers alone.

I am confused. What about teaching values equates to spending money

soul_glo: I am confused. What about teaching values equates to spending money

I never said anything about Fathers not teaching values to their kids. Don't get it twisted. OP talked about Nigerian Fathers teaching their kids how to ride a bicycle and I said the poor families don't have the money to spend on a bicycle because they're busy trying to make sure they can eat, as well as take care of other necessities (school fees, clothing, house rents, hospital bills, etc). He also mentioned they should teach their kids how to play soccer and basketball and I'm down for all that, but poor Nigerian Fathers don't think in that direction. Not only are some unaware of the importance, but those resources are not even accessible to them. Likewise, not many of them are raised that way, adding to their ignorance. For things to change, we have to look at the problems from a holistic perspective because there're so many factors that come into play regarding why things are the way they are in Nigeria. I'm a fan of Daddies being Daddies, I just don't think some of the ways the OP stated, as I mentioned above, are important and I don't blame Fathers who aren't in the position to do those things. If a Father's able to do those things (teach his kids how to ride a bike, play sports, etc), then kudos. If not, that's okay. It doesn't make him any less of a Father. He can can instill Godly values in his children, set good examples and spend time with them in many other ways.

Yield: I never said anything about Fathers not teaching values to their kids. Don't get it twisted. OP talked about Nigerian Fathers teaching their kids how to ride a bicycle and I said the poor families don't have the money to spend on a bicycle because they're busy trying to make sure they can eat, as well as take care of other necessities (school fees, clothing, house rents, hospital bills, etc). He also mentioned they should teach their kids how to play soccer and basketball and I'm down for all that, but poor Nigerian Fathers don't think in that direction. Not only are some unaware of the importance, but those resources are not even accessible to them. Likewise, not many of them are raised that way, adding to their ignorance. For things to change, we have to look at the problems from a holistic perspective because there're so many factors that come into play regarding why things are the way they are in Nigeria. I'm a fan of Daddies being Daddies, I just don't think some of the ways the OP stated, as I mentioned above, are important and I don't blame Fathers who aren't in the position to do those things. If a Father's able to do those things (teach his kids how to ride a bike, play sports, etc), then kudos. If not, that's okay. It doesn't make him any less of a Father. He can can instill Godly values in his children, set good examples and spend time with them in many other ways.

I get what you're saying but the OP did not say the fathers must teach their children those specific things. Those were just examples. At the end of the day what he means is exactly what you're saying. Spending quality time with the children. None of which require money

Where is the black and white OP

Ok you have a point in some of your post which is fathers should have time with their kids but someone is using "President" Obama as an example for caring father you can't compare a president life style with a poor man life style, infact there are still rich men that doesn't have time with their kids talkless of a poor man hustling for money to cater for the children like a danfo bus driver working 24/7 when will he have the time for his children.

Obama is a wealthy man no hustling he can take a leave at work to have some nice holidays with his kids but still with all that some kids still end up arrogant and rude just like a show I use to watch on MTV with all the caring the father has for the children, you will see the children yelling at the father base on a minor thing, the OP should reason with the society before posting though you have some valid point but for you to think african men don't have time for their kids is wrong many american fathers as well don't have time for their sons mostly the poor ones.

You don't know anything about african men you only read or heard about african men and learn how to control your anger if you want to address your opinion on people you don't have to insult or curse them you said "africans are doomed" thank your star that you have modify your post, that statement is so wrong.

Yield: I never said anything about Fathers not teaching values to their kids. Don't get it twisted. OP talked about Nigerian Fathers teaching their kids how to ride a bicycle and I said the poor families don't have the money to spend on a bicycle because they're busy trying to make sure they can eat, as well as take care of other necessities (school fees, clothing, house rents, hospital bills, etc). He also mentioned they should teach their kids how to play soccer and basketball and I'm down for all that, but poor Nigerian Fathers don't think in that direction. Not only are some unaware of the importance, but those resources are not even accessible to them. Likewise, not many of them are raised that way, adding to their ignorance. For things to change, we have to look at the problems from a holistic perspective because there're so many factors that come into play regarding why things are the way they are in Nigeria. I'm a fan of Daddies being Daddies, I just don't think some of the ways the OP stated, as I mentioned above, are important and I don't blame Fathers who aren't in the position to do those things. If a Father's able to do those things (teach his kids how to ride a bike, play sports, etc), then kudos. If not, that's okay. It doesn't make him any less of a Father. He can can instill Godly values in his children, set good examples and spend time with them in many other ways.

.....@yield,the examples he gave where mere illustrations as per his own american society.The important thing is not getting involved as such in their sons/child's upbringing which was the point he was trying to make...some rich dads too are guilty(if not worse sef) of this emotional disconnection,it is believed that it's the woman's responsibilty to provide all that...

....besides if lack of resources is the issue,why dont they play games like Ludo,whot card etc with their sons,at least thats not expensive to provide,instead they prefer to hang out in beer and point-and -kill joints in their spare time talking about football,politics and women.

....at the end of the day it's a cultural thing which we are hoping will gradually change.

@op, u really displayed ur lack of manners & self respect in relating wit pple.u dnt hv to go so low wit words u know, derogatory remarks wnt help either, may be a lil of d life of comfort u live is getting u high up! ! pls we love humility n culture here, in d uk d use of fown languages, undignified words is d order of d day, if u must give advice pls stay calm n be respectful, display maturity in d face of provocative attitudes. u really nid to grow n culture ur manners, THOUGH U STARTED N MEANT WELL.

Lol @ OP. So this thread has suffered the same fate as almost all the other crazed threads you started all at once. First you started here by modifying your posts here and now they are gone, gone, gone. Young man, please seek help. You appear troubled.

Nawaa to us o!
A foreigner subtly trashed our guys in our land and we r here supporting him.
Whether he is right or not is not d problem here.
Nobody will ever say her/his mamma no sabi cook for public.
I can trash a Nigerian guy very well if there is need for that but not on a thread like this. There r numerous threads for such discussion and I bet another one will still come up soon.


Can't we decode?
Haba!

ileobatojo: Lol @ OP. So this thread has suffered the same fate as almost all the other crazed threads you started all at once. First you started here by modifying your posts here and now they are gone, gone, gone. Young man, please seek help. You appear troubled.

My dear, and to think that some of us r really supporting him.
Nashville was hard on him else he would hv continued with his crazy outburst.
An escapee from yaba left and we r indulging him.
O dikwa serious!