I'm not suppose to be on this thread, but...

1. We tithe because we are of the faith of Abraham

2. He tithed to a priest of SAME order of priesthood as Jesus hence tithe is an eternal principle because the priesthood we belong to is forever

3. Mal 3 was written not to the levitical priests or Mosaic tithe laws, why?
Because it was written for a time to come, it talks of a later time or a messenger and messiah to come. It was written to scoffers who made fun about the coming of the messiah. Malachi was told to Look, to SEE with his Spirit eye...God said to him "Behold"

The Messiah Jesus will also purify those around Him:
Like fire, He will burn away the impurities of the priests. Like soap, He will wash away their uncleanness ( Deuteronomy 4:29; Isaiah 1:25; Jeremiah 6:29-30; Ezekiel 22:17-22. The priests will then be able to offer sacrifices in righteousness (from a pure heart.)

He is talking about US, the new creation folks! We are the refined Priests, of the order of Melchizedek. Hallelujah!

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past.

He is talking about US, the new creation folks! We are the refined Priests, of the order of Melchizedek. Hallelujah!

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past

Goshen360:



He was blessed and RICH BEFORE he tithe. Also, Melchizedek didn't show up to RECEIVE TITHE FROM ABRAHAM, HE SHOWED UP TO BLESS. Abraham was pronounced BLESSED first, not tithing in order to be blessed.

Gombs: ^^
You busy lecturing us on Moses' tithe laws..why not spend energy on lecturing us on Abraham's tithing which you termed free will offering? You called it free willed offering yet the bible said it was a tenth of all (tithe). Question is, if it were a mere free willed offering, why then did he give a priest of the Most High 10% and the 90% he gave the king of Sodom? Of ALL the Kings Abraham met with, he randomly chose Mechizedek abi?

King of Sodom first went to meet Abraham o! Abraham give tithe to Melchizedek and the remaining 90% he gave it free willed...now you see there is a difference between Tithe and free will donation!

You dey try o

LambanoPeace: Wow Gombs, i must say av lrnt alot from the abv.i almost got swayed to stop tithing some time ago when some other NLders kept stating it was wrong and it is done away with, now i know clerer...and you are most right when you said you would let viewers judge for themselves on which road they want to thread on... that is enough wisdom than getting into arguements and maybe it will get personal.

i for one has learnt a thing or two and as i got to learn tithing by faith, i usually tithed because others did, now i know better. whether tithing is abolished on not, i will be on a safe side because i will pay my tithes in faith and accurately.


and i just followed you, God bless you sir.

Pastor Kun:

What kind of DAFT analogy is this I am even more shocked that a couple of dolts went on to 'like' the rubbish stated therein

BARRISTERS: @Gombs

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[img]COMPARE HEBREWS 7:26-27 YOU ARE TALKING OPPOSITE,

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself

BROTHER, JESUS DOES NOT NEED BURDENSOME FIXED OFFERINGS AGAIN BECAUSE IT WILL AMOUNT TO DUPLICATION ......"for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself"


JESUS DEATH WILL BE LOSING ITS SIGNIFICANCE IF WE STILL BURDEN OURSELF ON FIXED MATERIAL AND PHISICAL OFFERINGS AND NOT THE SPIRITUAL GOOD BEHAVIOR TO OTHERS AND SHOWING TRUE LOVE AS FINE OFFERINGS OF CONDUCT ACCEPTABLE TO THE LORD [/img]






PLEASE Gombs, STATE YOUR OPINIONS AND STOP CANCELLING OTHERS POST WHILE QUOTING THEM LIKE YOU DID TO ajayikayod

ajayikayod:

Bro, glad for the progressive insight u recieved.

ajayikayod:
Dt u kno now dt u "giv-tithe-by-faith" is the first step to bein liberated from conditional givin as preached in most places. Dt s d first decision i made too over 12years back whn i recieved clarity about tithing doctrine.

ajayikayod:
I decided to b givin-it-by-faith since its a form of givin and i dont want to be left out of its blessing lik u put it (be on d safe side). But few year later i got greater light to discover wat i kno today dt i giv to God to honor him not wit my tenth but as much as is required to meet the church needs and to bless others (dt cant be ur tenth, dts almost ALL if not ALL as practiced by d early church (Acts)).

ajayikayod:
Most times whn ppl hear some believers talk about [size=16pt]"tithe is done away wit" they think such believers ar selfish and dont want to giv to God.[/size] Dts absolutely not true. Since i ve left tithing i ve not given less than half of my income to honor God and support d church becos i ve come to discover dt all dt i hav is from him and for him.

ajayikayod:
I always tell ppl around me dt, if u r facing serious financial challenges and d 1st tin that come to ur mind is "God should make a way BECOS u pay ur tithe or give in church or ds challenge come because i didnt pay tithe" then u r still far from understanding how to recieve from God. We reciev becos He loves us.

ajayikayod:
In conclusion, glad once again for ds progressive knowlegde u recieved Bro, dt faith has come into ur giving and now u can stand & reciev b4 God not becos u r better but by Faith in His Word.

2. You tithe BASED ON THE LAW but turn around to claim your tithe is according to Abraham's example. Abraham didn't tithe for windows of heaven to open to him nor for him to be blessed. He was blessed and RICH BEFORE he tithe. Also, Melchizedek didn't show up to RECEIVE TITHE FROM ABRAHAM, HE SHOWED UP TO BLESS. Abraham was pronounced BLESSED first, not tithing in order to be blessed.

ajayikayod:
Most times whn ppl hear some believers talk about "tithe is done away wit" they think such believers ar selfish and dont want to giv to God. Dts absolutely not true. Since i ve left tithing i ve not given less than half of my income to honor God and support d church becos i ve come to discover dt all dt i hav is from him and for him.

LambanoPeace: but that is the sad truth...if not, why would they wanna discourage others from giving. would it be right for you to discourage those who wanna give? wouldnt it seem like they dont wanna give that is why they attack those who do?

Gombs: hello Goshen, i dont distribute the rest 90% because it is free willed...if i like i will, it is my choice to give it out, it was Abraham's choice to give his out, me i might decide to give mine out, simple thought



yeah, he was blessed by God before the tithe, question is who taught him about tithing? now, that is what i call a man of faith. same as Drummerboy can not tell me who taught Abel how to give an offering, and how he did it in faith. it is surely not a coincidence that he gave tithe to a high priest as Melchizedek and 400years later, Moses adopted tithing too.

Abraham was already a blessed man before he met Melchizedek, go and study.

heb 7v6 But this person who has not their Levitical ancestry received tithes from Abraham [himself] and blessed him who possessed the promises [of God].

He met a man who did something significant (go study it too), bringing bread and wine for their nourishment, Why? the bible said because he was a priest and that the lesser is blessed of the greater, what then made Melchizedek greater?...and [size=14]Abraham did something, in faith (because that man did all he did in faith)[/size] he gave a tenth, not 90%, not 50%, but 10%... question is,

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth - KJV

In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living - NIV

Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives -NKJV

Here tithes are received by mortal men; there, by one of whom it is testified that he lives - RSV

And here dying men receive tithes; but there one of whom the witness is that he lives - DBY

1 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,

2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.


4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!

5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham.

6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater.

8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.

9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham,

10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?

12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

DrummaBoy: @ Gombs

Hebrew 7:8 from a number of translations:



By looking at the verse 8 from other versions of the scripture, we see that the issue you wanted to make out of the matter of PLURAILITY is a non issue at all.

DrummaBoy:
It all depends on the version you are using; the plurality disappears in the more original and authentic KJV, along with the NIV.

DrummaBoy:
But let us even allow that that word was translated as plural. Do you realize that Melchizedek as King and Priest could not have collected tithes from Abraham alone.

DrummaBoy:
In his royal and religious capacity

DrummaBoy: he would have collected tithes from other people too

DrummaBoy: whether they were giving the tithes on religious or customary bases. Also, that text makes it clear that when Abraham gave his tithes, he was not the only one giving the tithe, his descendants that included Levi, Aaron and even Jesus (from the tribe of Judah) was giving a tithe - thus the need to put that tithes in the plural.

DrummaBoy:
So my friend you have not brought out anything new by showing us that something was written in the plural. To suggest that because verse 8 read:"...while there [in the case of Melchizedek], they are received by one of whom it is testified that he lives [perpetually]" , then Jesus who is of the Order of Melchizedek is now collecting tithes from Christians is to be saying something that that text never said - except, of course, on TBN. What does that text say?

DrummaBoy:
Melchizedek is introduced in this text and his royal and religious role is defined, all in the bid to make one statement - that he resembled the Son of God; his office was in the order of Jesus.

DrummaBoy: Now, another point that the writer is trying to make here is to show how great this man must have been. He was king, priest, he blessed Abraham and then Abraham gave a tenth to him - he really must have been a great man!

DrummaBoy:
Again making the point that this man Melchizedek was a great man but in the light of another revelation; his ministry is compared to that of the Levites - the Levites collected tithes and he is also seen here collecting tithes.

DrummaBoy:
Now while Levi collected tithes, and this man collected tithes; Levi paid a tithe to this man, through his father Abraham. So this man, Melchi and Levi cannot be on the same level. Melchizedek has to be spirituallly greater than Levi to have collected a tithe from him. Now, those of us who are not Jews cannot appreciate this statement but the Hebrews does. Like in the days of Jesus, the High Priest desending from Levi, was the highest spiritual authority in the land. If anyone could show from scripture, like the writer of Hebrew is doing, that there is a higher spiritual authority, which authority is likened to that of Jesus, then they could appreciate this man Jesus. Do not forget that the Jews did not accept our Lord's ministry and in a bid to win the them to Christ, the writer here has to use an anology that they could understand - Melchizedek.

There is no way one can read these texts, without a tithe prejudiced mind, and not see this. There is nothing in that text that says or can be implied to say that "Melchizedek priesthood is in the order of Christ's and so since Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek, Christians or even the Hebrews, must now pay tithes to Melchizedek or to Jesus". The truth of the matter is that NT worship is worship in the spirit. Union with Christ. The merit of our actions is found in the merit of Christ's action. If Jesus was in the loins of Abraham as a bonafide son of Judah, then Jesus paid the tithes in Abraham and he has effectively paid the tithes for us all. That is the doctrine of the NT, that everything concerning the laws of Moses and any other demand from God be it Circumcision, Sabbath, Firstfruits, Tithing, Sin offerings, etc, have been carried out by Jesus on our behalf. When we believe in Him, we identify with His righteousness and it is imputed on us. We are not under any obligation to keep these rules and regulations. All that is left of us is to follow the Spirit that commands us to walk in love. Love is giving and in this case free will giving as God established in Exodus 25 and as Paul confirmed in 2 Corinthians 9:7

DrummaBoy:
This is the conclusion of the matter: Perfection has come through Jesus and we need not submit to any other order of priesthood.

DrummaBoy:
In Jesus every child of God is a priest. Priest were not known to pay or give both pre and during the law and it is not going to happen after the law.

DrummaBoy:
Now let me warn you before I let this matter rest because I see you Gombs as a scorner and one who loves to play to the gallery: desist from this ministry because it is a ministry of death and it earns God's wrath. Like I told Bidam in another thread (and this is not a curse or threat, I don't engage in all that kind of witchcraft) God Himself ended the levithical priesthood.

DrummaBoy:
Hebrews was written in about 64AD. 70 AD the Romans got tired of the intransigence of the Jews and sent Titus to destroy Jerusalem. Just as Jesus prophesied in Luke 19 and Matthew 24, Jerusalem was ransacked and destroyed. The Jews were displaced into the nation and there was no nation called Israel on earth until 1948. By the time the Jews returned to their land, while some could trace their lineage to other tribes, no one could trace his lineage to the tribe of Levi. What that implies is that no one could act as a High Priest talk less as a levite, etc. Thier complete lineage was destroyed. It makes sense bc there cannot be two high priests in the land: Jesus and another. Now, with priest and levites, there was no one to pay a tithe to. Check it anywhere: Jews do not pay tithe today!

DrummaBoy:
[b] It is then fool hardy to find those who should know better, collecting ten percent of people's salary in the name of collecting tithes. [/b]What God Himself destroyed and ensured that the laws are changed, some are trying to restore. Do you see you are on a collision course with something greater than yourself?

DrummaBoy:
I rest my case. The Yorubas have a proverb: "You only tell half truth to a sensible person; when it gets into him, it becomes whole". A word is enough for the wise.

Cheers.

Joagbaje: Tithes and offerings are eternal principles . They existed before the levitical priest hood.
The kindom of God has many principles. Tithes , offering , alms giving ,fasting , prayer , worship etc. these principles had been there before the law or levitical priesthood.

Christians are not tithing just because the law say so. But rather because it's a principle . If you don't believe in tithing you should not believe in offerings also. Let's worship God with empty hand.

ajayikayod:

Tithes? Not according to d scripture Bro,

Animals sacrifices pre-date d law too, infact pre-date Abraham. Was performed by Abel, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Prophets, was performed for Child Jesus.

If d reason u pay tithe is becos its eternal principle and pre-date d Law, why dont u offer animal sacrifices too? We kno God accepted dt too from many. Apostles never mentioned not to do it also.


Its better we thread cautiously not to be entangled again by dt which Christ has made us free.

Gombs:

What part of THE MAN DID ALL THINGS IN FAITH you didnt understand? hey, i am not here to convince you, im just here because of the viewers of this page...they can pick the truth for themselves.



not interested in discussing mal 2...



mal 3 fulfilled and revealed by Peter by the help of the Holyspirit



wrong...they are the new creation folks



God has laid down principles, faith is not what u use to get stuffs from God, it is what u use to please God..the only thing u could use. if you follow his laid down principle for something in faith, you will surely get that thing. for example, there are many ball games, if u want to prosper and be rich, u gotta find out what the bible said about financial prosperity. like i said there are many ball games, you cant use volleyball rules for football, nor can u use basketball rules for tennis... folllow his principle and you shall have what that principle says...if u want salvation, he has a principle on how u can get it...u have to follow that principle, else forget it



refer to my above posts

and for clarity sake, i dont intend to argue...i know you ae convinced on ur stand, and i am, i can never stop tithing, and you probably never will tithe..let us just leave it at that, and let the viewers of this page decide on which part the wanna thread.

and hey, tithing is not a weightier matter in Christianity..you guys make it look like it is all and all in tithing Churches

Gombs:

I don't intend to argue....

Gombs: hello Goshen, i dont distribute the rest 90% because it is free willed...if i like i will, it is my choice to give it out, it was Abraham's choice to give his out, me i might decide to give mine out, simple thought



yeah, he was blessed by God before the tithe, question is who taught him about tithing? now, that is what i call a man of faith. same as Drummerboy can not tell me who taught Abel how to give an offering, and how he did it in faith. it is surely not a coincidence that he gave tithe to a high priest as Melchizedek and 400years later, Moses adopted tithing too.

Abraham was already a blessed man before he met Melchizedek, go and study.

heb 7v6 But this person who has not their Levitical ancestry received tithes from Abraham [himself] and blessed him who possessed the promises [of God].

He met a man who did something significant (go study it too), bringing bread and wine for their nourishment, Why? the bible said because he was a priest and that the lesser is blessed of the greater, what then made Melchizedek greater?...and Abraham did something, in faith (because that man did all he did in faith) he gave a tenth, not 90%, not 50%, but 10%... question is,

why did the bible pluralize the tithe Abraham gave..

Hebrews 7

8 Furthermore, here [in the Levitical priesthood] tithes are received by men who are subject to death; while there [in the case of Melchizedek], [size=16pt]they are received[/size] by one of whom it is testified that he lives [perpetually].

since Abraham was the only one who physically tithed to Melchizedek, why didnt the bible use IT WAS?
let me give you a clue
Heb 7

12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is of necessity an alteration of the law [concerning the priesthood] as well.

it is pluralized because from above verse, there was a change in the law that said only Levites could be priests. Jesus is a priest from Judah (confirming the change in the law that said ONLY levites could be priests), and Jesus is of the same order of priesthood as Melchizedek who received tithes, meaning ALL who are Christ's, those same folks are Abraham's offspring AND spiritual heirs according to what? according to the promise (Gal 3v29), when they pay their tithes, it goes to that order of priesthood Abraham tithed to, which is forever. that is why tithes and offerings are eternal principle. that is why Abraham's tithing was pluralized


now, i didnt write the above to convince you, i wrote it for viewers of this page. u will probably never pay tithes, and i will never stop tithing, so let us leave it at that, and let those who need to learn to learn. to choose what road they wanna thread.

thanks.

Gombs:

3. Mal 3 was written not to the levitical priests or Mosaic tithe laws, why?
Because it was written for a time to come, it talks of a later time or a messenger and messiah to come. It was written to scoffers who made fun about the coming of the messiah. Malachi was told to Look, to SEE with his Spirit eye...God said to him "Behold"

Gombs:

But there is offerings by faith, yet no tithing by faith...you dey try o



Pls show me any place in the NT bible or OT bible where ANYBODY condemned tithing...don't worry I can wait for your answer.

Even when Heb 7 shows you Abraham's tithing to melchizedek in plurality...question is how many folks physically tithed to Melchizedek in the bible?

And you are here saying there is nothing as tithing by faith...who are the other ones that made Abraham's tithing plural?








Keep thinking..Hezekiah had a latter day innovation Moses and Aaron couldn't think of



See comedy










What about Cain and Abel? Who taught them about offering?

What about Abraham, God asked for the son he Abraham loved

What about Noah, God asked him to take clean animals in sevens, male and female and unclean in pair (two only) male and female...you think God didn't knw noah who He(God) described as a perfect and just man would wanna offer him a CLEAN animal?

What about Jacob, etc

These men had faith! They knew what they should do. Abel for instant, who thought him to offer the best?




Abraham's tithe...was it farm produce?



Why then don't you free willingly give your tithes? If it were to be free willed, why then did he say they rob him? It must have BEEN a MUST for God to say folks rob him of it, by not bringing it, no?

You see how you shoot yourself in the foot?



When folks ministered to Jesus with their substance after he taught and healed,

1. Is that not an offering? abi na collection? ok, what was the purpose those folks gave JESUS their substances (money, food, perfume,yam, gucci shoes, ray ban glasses etc)?
2. Were the monies given to any suffering folks in any place?(now i am not saying it is wrong to give to the poor) I thought Jesus had a treasurer who kept the monies n all?

Gombs Oga, Jesus' death was a sacrifice for redemption...for remission of sin.

The priest of old offered bulls n all for atonement of sins, get the diff., that's what that verse is saying.
Stop reading the bible up side down.

guiddoti: I'm beginning to be addicted to NL. It's getting interested all the day.
The Issues of tithing and offering should be taken serious, for it's an ordiance from God to everyone. Now, bible said: "bring you tithes into my store that there may be meat in my house..." This indicates that the house of God should not lack resources. And, if you critically examined how bible used those words, you discovered that the people are farmers. All levit have no inheritance, they are priest to all other tribes. In our present day churches, pastors are refered to levit. They minister on the altar of God. So, tithes are proportionally used for the well-being of the house of God. The maintenance of every activities of the church, including the pastor's family well being, are considered. The whole sum is not for the pastor's consumption.
On the other hand, offering is free-will you offer in appreciation to God and man. It's offering that you give with simplicity, not with grudges. When you go into the house of God, do not go with empty hands. God loves a cheerful giver.

Goshen360:

This is where you need to do more study and learn the truth. The equivalent to levites are the unpaid ushers, Sunday school teachers, choirs\choristers, traffic controllers etc etc. The pastors will be equivalent to the Aaron the (high) priest. Tithing had been abolished with the law, you cannot say we are not under the law but single out only tithe that it continues in the dispensation of Grace; that will be wrongly dividing the word of truth.

guiddoti: Are the ushers, sunday school teachers and many more, full time employee of the church? If no. They have no portion. They can only be given portion, as to support them, if they are financially down or as a worker in need
I'ii have you study the epistle of paul's. The law of tithing was never abolished. If you have not being paying it, I beg you start. Also read the book of malachi chapter 3 to the end.

guiddoti: Are the ushers, sunday school teachers and many more, full time employee of the church? If no. They have no portion. They can only be given portion, as to support them, if they are financially down or as a worker in need
I'ii have you study the epistle of paul's. The law of tithing was never abolished. If you have not being paying it, I beg you start. Also read the book of malachi chapter 3 to the end.

Gombs:

Hello sir, you must be new here! Thank you for your conviction on tithing. However, never be swayed by any doctrine that discourages a form of giving to God. Never subscribe to it. Why? Because the Devil WILL NEVER tempt you to give in the House of God.

As regards trying to convince anybody who disagrees with tithing, you would just end up wasting your time.

What Goshen is telling you has been treated in over 1000pages of NL tithe threads. What Barrister and truthslight is asking me has been answered on this thread. All they do is recycle their post and questions.
That's why I leave viewers to decide on what road they wanna thread

For example, I've told him Jesus and his disciples left their Jobs and was in full time ministry...I asked him, whr did the monies that was in Judas' bag come from?
And he just said their was nothing like full time pastor in the New testament. I hope he could tell me what trade Peter and John had after following Jesus.

The good part of it all though is, they always find a way of shooting themselves in the foot
There is always inconsistency with them. For example, Goshen here said Melchizek was born of a woman and man, just that the bible did not record it! He also said the man was/is long dead and never resurected totally against what the bible said that Melchizedek has no beginning of day nor end of life.

www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/22

But years back, same Goshen said Melchizedek had NO genealogical
Line and he is a priest forever.

www.nairaland.com/903159/really-melchizedek
(Hope he doesn't go and edit the post I don screen grab am sha )

In this thread, Drummerboy said Melchizedek had a 'religious capacity' , I asked him what religion? He also said Melchizedek is from the Order of Jesus!

Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

Goshen also said Mal 3 was not for Christians even after it has been explained that the new creation folks were the refined priests Mal 3 was talking about. And how mal 3 talked about things of today!

I could go on and on and name the rest folks...

Why are they always inconsistent? Because, Jesus said whatsoever that is not planted by my father shall be uprooted! They can't keep consistency on what they say because it is not founded on the Word of God which is same yesterday, today and forever!
Ok, let's just say they made mistakes as in they didn't study well! (imagine)
They sadly fulfill this scripture

Romans 1 Amp

22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].


I could go on and on. But, all I wanna say is, hold fast to what you believe in, hundreds of million of people who tithe are not dumb or less studious of the bible or too stoopid to think that tithing is abolished.


if you wanna argue with them, as you are new here, be careful, or to stay on the safe side, ignore them and watch them from afar. they will lay a snare for you, and when you fall, they will use it against your stand.

And nearly all anti tithers have something in common ...they might later on insult you and all they can lay hands on as the thread goes on. Its a prophecy from me!

Anyways! Have a happy sunday. And remain blessed

SIMPLE QUESTION I ASK FROM YOU YOU RAN AWAY! YOUR LONG POST ARE EMPTY AS YOU JUMP FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER WITHOUT DEFINING THEM,

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE THE NEW LEVI, ARE YOU A JEW?

1, HOW DO YOU BECOME A REFINED JEWISH PRIEST OF MALACHI 3? YOU CANT ANSWER THAT


2, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK? YOU CANT ANSWER

3, BEFORE YOU OFFER SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE RECEIVED IT, TELL US WAYS THAT PRIEST RECEIVE OFFERINGS, YOU WILL AGREE THAT THE OLD PRIESTS NEED ANIMALS, FOODSTUFFS ETC FOR OFFERINGS BUT HEBREW 7 :27 SAYS THAT (JESUS)........... "who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices".......

IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE CONSTRUCTIVELY BUT TRYING TO FORCE OPINION ON SOMEONE IN THIS AGE?

Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

BARRISTERS:

SIMPLE QUESTION I ASK FROM YOU YOU RAN AWAY! YOUR LONG POST ARE EMPTY AS YOU JUMP FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER WITHOUT DEFINING THEM,

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE THE NEW LEVI, ARE YOU A JEW?

1, [s] HOW COME YOU ARE NOW A REFINED JEWISH PRIEST OF MALACHI 3?

YOU WE ARE HERE TO LEARN, I DONT KNOW OTHERS ON THE THREAD WHO ALSO HAVE POSTED THEIR VIEWS,

2, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK?

IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE CONSTRUCTIVELY BUT TRYING TO FORCE OPINION ON SOMEONE IN THIS AGE?



WHAT IS LEVITICAL TITHE? A TENTH PART OR TENTH PORTION OF INCREASE IN GOODS OR NUMBER 10TH OF ANIMALS THAT CAN PASS UNDER THE ROD, WHICH MEANS IF YOU DONT HAVE INCREASE IN YOUR FARM PRODUCE, OR IF YOU HAVE 9 ANIMALS YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO PAY LEVITICAL TITHE

WHAT IS ABRAHAM'S TRIBUTE, TO MELCHIZEDECK? THE FACT THAT A TENTH PORTION OF GOODS/SPOILS WHICH IS NOT ON INCREASE OR FOLLOW THE RULE OF ANIMALS PASSING UNDER THE ROD, BUT TENTH PORTION OF ALL THE SPOILS WAS GIVEN TO KING MELCHIZEDECK WHICH AS A KING HE IS ENTITLED

JESUS RECOGNISE PAYING TRIBUTES/TAX TO THE KING AS AN OBLIGATION, HE REQUESTED FOR A DENARII COIN TEN ASSES, JESUS PAID TAX USING A DENARIUS,

19 Show Me the tax money.”

So they brought Him a denarius...A denarius (plural denarii) is an ancient Roman coin made of silver. It was originally equal to 10 asses, hence its name.

20 And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”

21 They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME LIKE GOMBS DONT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING AND DEFINATION OF TITHE, IF NOT KINGS RECEIVE TENTH PART FROM EVERY ONE INCLUDING PAGANS

MELCHIZEDECH IS A KING FIRST, AND A PRIEST. SO ENTITLED TO TAX/TRIBUTES OF THE SPOILS FROM ABRAHAM. SIMPLE
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Gombs:

Hello sir, you must be new here! Thank you for your conviction on tithing. However, never be swayed by any doctrine that discourages a form of giving to God. Never subscribe to it. Why? Because the Devil WILL NEVER tempt you to give in the House of God.

As regards trying to convince anybody who disagrees with tithing, you would just end up wasting your time.

What Goshen is telling you has been treated in over 1000pages of NL tithe threads. What Barrister and truthslight is asking me has been answered on this thread. All they do is recycle their post and questions.
That's why I leave viewers to decide on what road they wanna thread

For example, I've told him Jesus and his disciples left their Jobs and was in full time ministry...I asked him, whr did the monies that was in Judas' bag come from?
And he just said their was nothing like full time pastor in the New testament. I hope he could tell me what trade Peter and John had after following Jesus.

The good part of it all though is, they always find a way of shooting themselves in the foot
There is always inconsistency with them. For example, Goshen here said Melchizek was born of a woman and man, just that the bible did not record it! He also said the man was/is long dead and never resurected totally against what the bible said that Melchizedek has no beginning of day nor end of life.

www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/22

But years back, same Goshen said Melchizedek had NO genealogical
Line and he is a priest forever.

www.nairaland.com/903159/really-melchizedek
(Hope he doesn't go and edit the post I don screen grab am sha )

In this thread, Drummerboy said Melchizedek had a 'religious capacity' , I asked him what religion? He also said Melchizedek is from the Order of Jesus!

Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

Goshen also said Mal 3 was not for Christians even after it has been explained that the new creation folks were the refined priests Mal 3 was talking about. And how mal 3 talked about things of today!

I could go on and on and name the rest folks...

Why are they always inconsistent? Because, Jesus said whatsoever that is not planted by my father shall be uprooted! They can't keep consistency on what they say because it is not founded on the Word of God which is same yesterday, today and forever!
Ok, let's just say they made mistakes as in they didn't study well! (imagine)
They sadly fulfill this scripture

Romans 1 Amp

22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].


I could go on and on. But, all I wanna say is, hold fast to what you believe in, hundreds of million of people who tithe are not dumb or less studious of the bible or too stoopid to think that tithing is abolished.


if you wanna argue with them, as you are new here, be careful, or to stay on the safe side, ignore them and watch them from afar. they will lay a snare for you, and when you fall, they will use it against your stand.

And nearly all anti tithers have something in common ...they might later on insult you and all they can lay hands on as the thread goes on. Its a prophecy from me!

Anyways! Have a happy sunday. And remain blessed.

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Oh brother, you've indeed studied and has shown yourself aproofed; a young man that needeth not be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH!