Baddestguyp:
‘JOHN WICK 4’ is currently the third highest grossing film of 2023.

phr0nesis:

So far, it's the third highest grossing Hollywood movie and fifth worldwide.

oyaskii:


The Pandemic was an underlying factor, but their were other factors why the movie seemingly failed.

The movie opened in the theatre around September of 2020 when the COVID pandemic was at a downward pike and metric projections was pointing towards a favorable release, as it will be the only big title playing at that time hence affording it multiple screen time as it would normally have so WB okayed the release.

But the movie tanking can be split into two chief culprit.

The meta-physics entropy rigmarole was a tad above the what was normally expected of a CN flick and so it became all too confusing for early movie goers and critics alike, and thus discouraging eager fans who where willing to brave catching the virus to go see it.

The muffled sound mix style employed by Nolan for the sound editing was a total misfire as People could not make up the dialogues expecially in a cinema screening room with no subtitles thus further alienating potential people willing to see it.

Even with a re-cinematic run in March of 2021, when all the troubles of the pandemic had rolled away, the movie still couldn't make any head way.

My context been, if the movie released say last year without brother COVID hanging around, i fear it would had still tank at the box office, cuz take poll here about people's opinion on the movie, and i bet you, 9/10 would say they didn't know what the hell was going on for the entire run time.

Now why I wouldn't call it CN best work, might even be his most mixed critically reviewed movie yet, i fkk with what he was trying to do with the concept and loved the movie, took me some try, but i eventually got around to understanding the movie, the replay value for me tho is next to zero except I'm calling for a migraine.

He has to deliver with Oppenheimer, and i trust he will.

phr0nesis:

😄😄😄 Make camri hear you

Flamemignon1:

If you noticed,I related that comment to you saying how y'all throw him up with this generation's greats seeing how much is expected from him now because I don't but I understand because studios have invested so much in him. Still, something about Rebel Moon feels like it could be "it" for him,at least the zombie movie he did recently was ok and well received

abduleez1:


It's surely gonna slip outta top 10 when we got summer 2023.

Kaycee7:
E no go reach $1.5b sha. Na me tell you

phr0nesis:

Definitely. But I'm still wondering why the John Wick movies aren't getting blockbuster numbers. All installments have been well accepted by critics and audiences, and yet they can't hit even $500k. The possibility of movies like Like Mermaid outselling John Wick makes me question Hollywood

PurpLChi:


Their movie goers are sissies

abduleez1:


The context on how much is expected of him is the same as the interest in Henry Cavill's career trajectory after Superman as is the case with every Batman actor before and after the role.

Zack Snyder helmed one of the biggest franchise in Hollywood as well as the biggest comicbook characters. So it's only natural both his fans and critics are curious to how he'd fare outside his traditional anchor point. Life after WB and Snyderverse can be pretty interesting, at least for the tabloids. 😎

Zack is also a unique being, he's a character where anything he does is of interest to people. If he pour spit somewhere and gave it a name, it'd still generate buzz.

SOZINN:
😢😢😢

abduleez1:
MCU sponsored beauty.... 🤩😁

phr0nesis:

Definitely. But I'm still wondering why the John Wick movies aren't getting blockbuster numbers. All installments have been well received by critics and audiences, and yet they can't hit even $500k. The possibility of movies like Little Mermaid outselling John Wick makes me question Hollywood

abduleez1:
Lol, Kaycee7 just dey collect am nonstop... 😁😁

Japan just join this Friday. Up next is Korea. 😉
The fire billion dollar film of the year.

Universal has somehow eclipsed Disney in the animation business. Sadly, scenarios like these is what will definitely push Disney more to double down on their live action remake and possibly increase sequels to previous successful movies.

abduleez1:


Lol, why will you question Hollywood? This is what some of you get wrong. It's the audiences you'd question. It's not as if the studios' didn't produce these movies in the first place. They're there but the masses voted with their money.
Judging by how globalized the theatrical business has become, I'd even blame the moviegoers worldwide. Cos the numbers and facts are there to judge. If the problem is the American audience, then international box office gross should be significantly larger or miles larger than the domestic gross. But you see the domestic/international split being roughly equal.

To answer your question, the major reason I see John Wick not grossing more than it has its because of the studio. It's Lionsgate. You can't compare Lionsgate financial and marketing muscle with that of Disney, WB, Universal, Paramount or even junior boy Sony. Audiences are very much aware of this. I haven't seen any John Wick movie marketed aggressively as a proper tentpole blockbuster as other IPs like Transformers etc. Even in the action genre JW is at the bottom of the food chain. You can't compare it with Fast and Furious, Mission Impossible, James Bond, Jason Bourne etc.
These are proper blockbuster action movies and marketed as such. John Wick hasn't been pushed this way. They've all got the nerve wrecking car chase, explosions, "end of the world villain" and all. JW doesn't.

And let me not lie to you John Wick feels more or less a niche action movie, regardless of how good it is.
So, based on this I can't say its American audience per se but moviegoers worldwide. This is what I feel, tho I might be wrong.

John Wick franchise is doing fine. There's no need looking too much into its box office gross. It's its own thing and has performed wonderfully on each installment.

kushercain:
Ben Affleck is a certified dope Director.

Gone Baby Gone💯
The Town💯
Air💯

Ma mahn🤜🤛

abduleez1:


No be today na. Man is pretty dope. ✓✓

kushercain:


I no even remember Argo

I'm hoping he directs one of the upcoming DC projects

ValeeLove:
why is Illumination so successful though, I mean have you seen what their movies make? It's ridiculous.

oyaskii:
Between this and that Modok from Ant-Man Q, i don't know which is worse 😩😩. MCU fell off, it's so sad to see.

phr0nesis:

True. Hollywood isn't the problem, the audience is.
I just feel Lionsgate isn't ambitious enough. Seeing how successful the first two movies were, what excuse do they have for not aggressively marketing the other two.

oyaskii:
I remember a few weeks back when we had the discourse here about the impact of AI on Hollywood and some people were of the opinion that the impact will be minimal but here we are today.

Nickshrapnel:
The WGA went on strike for a different reason, I’m still not sure AI can take job of creatives.

Nickshrapnel:
The WGA went on strike for a different reason, I’m still not sure AI can take job of creatives.