wu is even saying the truth about christ! Jesus don sofa o!!! wu is even saying the truth about christ! Jesus don sofa o!!!

like my secondary sch geography athest teacher wud say...xmas was originally meant 4 a greek god...so i gues kumiyi has a point cos d origin is faulty...juz ma totz anyways...

Eyideejay: the pastor was only talking to WE the members of the church, not to the catholics or other denominations. he didnt say it because of the date but rather because of the way it was brought up. i was ignorant of this b4 as well. i dont know why ppl meddle into other pple's affair. WHY XMAS SHOULDN'T BE CELEBRATED: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

I have known this since 1991. Since that time I no longer have interest in Christmas Carol. I expect only Catholics to defend this their doctrine. If pastor kumuyi had supported Christmas I would entirely disagree with him. I have perception when something is falsehood. If I am enjoying reading a Christian literature and I see error, the whole book will be irritating to me. I don't like being deceived.

gagzee: like my secondary sch geography athest teacher wud say...xmas was originally meant 4 a greek god...so i gues kumiyi has a point cos d origin is faulty...juz ma totz anyways...

Most geography teachers are atheist. Mind you, christmas is not meant for greek god. Stop saying what you don't know. Ostara festival on 25th is meant for greek god not christmas.

Even the bible abhors christmas but most christians will pretend the verse doesn't exist

Chartey: After reading the kind of comments coming from the pro-Christmas people on this thread, I'm seriously wondering whether most of them really know what it means to have Christ.

....Oya saint Chartey tell us...abi na only u wey get christ, na only u wey get free ticket to heaven....Self righteousness go kill many people

solomon111: lol.
Kumuyi has more indept knowledge of the scripture,humility and grace than all the catholic popes combined.
Instead of them to humble themselves and learn from kumuyi,they resort to personality-attack.
No matter how old a lie has been in existence,it will not suddenly become the truth.

...That kumuiyi has better knowledge than all popes combine is it what you are saying...and also living faith, anglican, mountain of fire.e.t.c ....dat also celebrate chritsmas are foolish too...Thats fine, same church were members wey no dey watch T.V before, same kumiyi.....So u have indirectly passed judgement and insulted good people.....

cold: Even the bible abhors christmas but most christians will pretend the verse doesn't exist

That quote is anti Nigerian culture.

the bible must be banned from Nigeria.

solomon111: Look at the catholics on thread bragging about their population.
They forget that Broad is the way that leads to damnation.
The fact that catholicism is the biggest dosen't validates the sect,afterall islam has over a billion adherents.
God is interested in quality not quantity.
Only eight people survived the flood in Noah's time.
No matter how old a lie is,it dosen't suddenly becomes the truth.

.......So what are u saying about muslim...Guy you are a christain cos ur parents are christains....pleaseee what do you mean about the muslims?

cold: Even the bible abhors christmas but most christians will pretend the verse doesn't exist

Abeg which verse?

gagzee: like my secondary sch geography athest teacher wud say...xmas was originally meant 4 a greek god...so i gues kumiyi has a point cos d origin is faulty...juz ma totz anyways...

Pls pple should keep this history of christmas to themselves. If I wanted to know history I can also browse through Wikipedia. The fact that something's origin is not Ideal doesn't make it irrelevant. The apostles were first called 'christians' as an act of mockery by 'pagans' in Antioch. Today believers use the word to proclaim their identity. Is this act also 'Idolatrous and unscriptural'? If you have an argument against the motive behind the celebration, we would listen. But if you want to harp on about the origin, keep your opinion private, no one cares.

TeNDuLKaaY:
Pls pple should keep this history of christmas to themselves. If I wanted to know history I can also browse through Wikipedia. The fact that something's origin is not Ideal doesn't make it irrelevant. The apostles were first called 'christians' as an act of mockery by 'pagans' in Antioch. Today believers use the word to proclaim their identity. Is this act also 'Idolatrous and unscriptural'? If you have an argument against the motive behind the celebration, we would listen. But if you want to harp on about the origin, keep your opinion private, no one cares.

'Pagan' was also used by christians as mockery of Traditionalists.

Today we use it to proclaim our identity.

nnachichi: People abandon what Christ instructs us to do and put so much energy in2 what He didnt ask. I notice dat some people dont bother following biblical injunctions,true xtians are to seek bible truths and follow them strictly without adding or removing anything!

...The bible that was packaged and given to you....The bible is the collection of scriptures or books..The early Church chose the scriptures they deem right and put in the bible and discarded d others....Do you think they were only 4 gospel....there was gospel according to Judas but it was discarded because it was seen as a gnostic book or forged book and somany other gospel....You christains dont even know the history of the bible...You think the bible was ready-made,you dont know it took years to compile the scriptures and packaged it into the bible which was done by the early church....and dont misquote me, i dont mean the early church wrote the bible.....Many books even went missing or hidden till today....did your bible tell you this?....the old testament was written in aramaic and hebrew, while the new testament in greek...Early bible scholars and interpreters had problem intepreting this languages cos some dont even have direct english, german,french e.t.c...meaning or translation..e.g...King James was one of the first english translation, done by the church in england then. Did ur bible tell u?...Even ur bible might have errors because it was interpreted by man.....The white man came with a religion call christainity,and now we carry it on our head...Look at christainity in africa and nigeria..with all our born againess and ITK about christ d continent and nigeria is cursed....year upon year new churches are founded but indecency,crimes and every thing bad still increase year upon year.....We nigerians why do religion confuse us.....Thats why the early church now called Catholic church never wanted the bible to be interpreted to different languages cos we will mix our tradition plus the christainity.....d early church wanted to do the right thing....Now we have christains fighting becos mrA pastor say something else from mrB pastor....Protestants!!no wonder they were called protestants, you people keep on protesting...

cold: Even the bible abhors christmas but most christians will pretend the verse doesn't exist

dude! There's nothing there! Must you tell lies to get likes? Smh sha.

FrancisTony: dude! There's nothing there! Must you tell lies to get likes? Smh sha.

Keep deceiving yourself.Isn't it funny it takes an atheist to lecture you on what you should already know?Smh for these folks

Jeremiah 10
King James Version (KJV)
10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Jeremiah 10:2-4
English Standard Version (ESV)
2 Thus says the Lord:

“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3 for the customs of the peoples are vanity.[a]
A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.

Have you even bothered to ask yourself 'what exactly is the essence of the fir tree to the celebration of your Jesus?' You folks are just too ignorant for your own good

TeNDuLKaaY:
Abeg which verse?

See am here

FrancisTony: dude! There's nothing there! Must you tell lies to get likes? Smh sha.

Keep deceiving yourself.Isn't it funny it takes an atheist to lecture you on what you should already know?Smh for these folks

Jeremiah 10
King James Version (KJV)
10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Jeremiah 10:2-4
English Standard Version (ESV)
2 Thus says the Lord:

“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3 for the customs of the peoples are vanity.[a]
A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.

Have you even bothered to ask yourself 'what exactly is the essence of the fir tree to the celebration of your Jesus?' You folks are just too ignorant for your own good

cold:

See am here


Keep deceiving yourself.Isn't it funny it takes an atheist to lecture you on what you should already know?Smh for these folks

Jeremiah 10
King James Version (KJV)
10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Jeremiah 10:2-4
English Standard Version (ESV)
2 Thus says the Lord:

“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3 for the customs of the peoples are vanity.[a]
A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.

Have you even bothered to ask yourself 'what exactly is the essence of the fir tree to the celebration of your Jesus?' You folks are just too ignorant for your

Okay this is the height of ignorance; stop twisting the words of the bible to support anything you claim is right. There is nothing suggesting 'DON'T CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS' in the above passage. The whole chapter speaks against the worship of man made crafts/Idols and exults Yahweh as the true God. I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion it is against celebrating christmas. Even if we are to go by your analysis, the chapter condems trees not celebration. Seek help when interpreting scriptures. 2nd Peter 1:20

TeNDuLKaaY:
Okay this is the height of ignorance; stop twisting the words of the bible to support anything you claim is right. There is nothing suggesting 'DON'T CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS' in the above passage. The whole chapter speaks against the worship of man made crafts/Idols and exults Yahweh as the true God. I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion it is against celebrating christmas. Even if we are to go by your analysis, the chapter condems trees not celebration. Seek help when interpreting scriptures.

Of course,the bible is always subject to whatever interpretation you deem convenient.And as usual,your own interpretation is always the right one...sigh..christians sha
Btw,you still haven't told me the significance of the so called christmas tree to the birth of your Jesus.What is the correlation?I noticed you craftily evaded that part of my question

cold:
Keep deceiving yourself.Isn't it funny it takes an atheist to lecture you on what you should already know?Smh for these folks

Jeremiah 10
King James Version (KJV)
10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Jeremiah 10:2-4
English Standard Version (ESV)
2 Thus says the Lord:

“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3 for the customs of the peoples are vanity.[a]
A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.

Have you even bothered to ask yourself 'what exactly is the essence of the fir tree to the celebration of your Jesus?' You folks are just too ignorant for your own good

sharap! It wasn't referring to christmas tree. You're dumb! It was referring to your atheist god.
Jeremiah 10 :5
Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do harm nor can they do any good
dude u're too dumb. Is christmas tree scary??!!! Stop reading half of a bible chapter before concluding. Just smh

cold:

Of course,the bible is always subject to whatever interpretation you deem convenient.And as usual,your own interpretation is always the right one...sigh..christians sha
Btw,you still haven't told me the significance of the so called christmas tree to the birth of your Jesus.What is the correlation?I noticed you craftily evaded that part of my question

I didn't just come up with a random interpretation, you're the one who took the verse out of context. Just read the whole chapter.
As much as I know the christmas tree isn't a core christain doctrine, but a tradition of Europeans to make the yultide special. It is not even widespread; I am sure most Nigerians celebrated without the tree.
I don't run from questions, I only share as much knowledge as I have.

Plz, i need a quick reply, whats is the meaning of dis abbreviation, 'smh' ?

FrancisTony: sharap! It wasn't referring to christmas tree. You're dumb! It was referring to your atheist god.
Jeremiah 10 :5
Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do harm nor can they do any good
dude u're too dumb. Is christmas tree scary??!!! Stop reading half of a bible chapter before concluding. Just smh

At least Tendulkay was honest enough to admit the christmas tree has no correlation with the birth of Jesus. You on the other hand,like a typical christian when boxed into a corner resort to insults. Who cares whether the tree is scary or not? The crux of the issue is of what significance is it in the scheme of things

cold:
At least Tendulkay was honest enough to admit the christmas tree has no correlation with the birth of Jesus. You on the other hand,like a typical christian when boxed into a corner resorts to insults. Who cares whether the tree is scary or not? The crux of the issue is of what significance is it in the scheme of things

you have lost it already. Bye!!

FrancisTony: you have lost it already. Bye!!

You can't explain it. It's ok,i get that all the time. After all,It's my job to put religious folks like you in their place. Sooner or later,they run with their tail between their legs

sapien: Kumuyi is such a hypocrite!
The same Kumuyi who is on facebook? Is Mark Zukerberg, owner of facebook, a christian?
The Same Kumuyi whose church worships on SUN-days(A pagan day)? The same Kumuyi who drives in luxurious cars made by atheists? Let him keep brainwashing his members who can't think outside the box!

U dat cn tink outsyd d box, if dis is wat u figured out then u r a retard personified. Hav u bothered to read kumuyis comment! Bastard!

cold:
You can't explain it. It's ok,i get that all the time. After all,It's my job to put religious folks like you in their place. Sooner or later,they run with their tail between their legs

Roon9:


U dat cn tink outsyd d box, if dis is wat u figured out then u r a r.etard personified. Hav u bothered to read kumuyis comment! Bastard!

smh! Must you abuse?? Mr. Faraday ain't a christian but kumuyi is using electricity. Only God knows how they made electricity. But to me, it seems idolatory even the car Mr. Kumuyi cruises with around the world.

Must u respond 2 everything................ignore pple n move ahead..................

Dondave11: Plz, i need a quick reply, whats is the meaning of dis abbreviation, 'smh' ?

google is my friend.
shaking my head

FrancisTony: smh! Must you abuse?? Mr. Faraday ain't a christian but kumuyi is using electricity. Only God knows how they made electricity. But to me, it seems idolatory even the car Mr. Kumuyi cruises with around the world.

Another senseless post.

FrancisTony: smh! Must you abuse?? Mr. Faraday ain't a christian but kumuyi is using electricity. Only God knows how they made electricity. But to me, it seems idolatory even the car Mr. Kumuyi cruises with around the world.

For the record,i 'liked' your comment. Funny i did that because a couple of minutes ago you were like...

FrancisTony: sharap! It wasn't referring to christmas tree. You're dumb! It was referring to your atheist god.
Jeremiah 10 :5
Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do harm nor can they do any good
dude u're too dumb. Is christmas tree scary??!!! Stop reading half of a bible chapter before concluding. Just smh

Some food for thought. When i was still a Christian,there was a verse that always stood out for me..'let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works'. This should be the cardinal principle of every Christian. Why should i be the one teaching folks these things? I don taya sef

emmahoney: Sorry, I know that your Adrenalin must have reacted like exothermic reaction before you could type this your shallow comment!! For your info, if you add or remove from the scripture, you know the punishment!! If you follow the tradition of man, you know the punishment as well. Narrow is the way, only few knows it, because many as celebrating xmas does not make it right. You can continue supporting it with more fallacious, unscriptural doctrine of man, it doesn't make it right. Seat down and stop following the crowd, the road it narrow. For your info, I'm not telling you to accept the fact, it is very bitter. Everybody is entitle to his/her opinion is not applicable to the scripture!! Because it goes beyond human reasoning. Th e scripture is complete. I rest my case

REALLY REALLY REALLY
WELL USING GRAMMAR U DNT UNDERSTND IS NT D POINT.
DECEIVING URSLF IS ANODA U V JST SUCCEDED DOING.
U BETTA REST UR CASE CS U DNT MK SENSE.
STILL U GOT LOW TYPIN MEMORY
D SEASON IS FUN YOUNG MAN.
MA SAVIOUR IS BORN ND AM MARKING IT 2DY.
MERRY XMASS
U BETA REST UR CASE R HANG URSELF BRO.