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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Fadenitan(m): 2:16pm On Dec 24, 2013
Shameless northern elder.Surely they shall gather but they shall not prevail.We know what is at stake.we are not fool.Come 2015,let nigeria decide.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by patriotic007: 2:17pm On Dec 24, 2013
Demdem: Only fools will expect much from Jonathan.
We all should remember that he is naturally daft by default.
A letter emanating from him or office can't be an exception.
I expect these northern leaders to know this by now.
You might end up committing suicide when jonathan finally wins in twenty fifteen,....Because he is definately going to win my dear,....Nothing can stop him.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by klax(m): 2:19pm On Dec 24, 2013
oluakadinma: All those Questions asked by NEF should be directed to all the northern heads of state that contributed to this mess we are now.


The worst that can happen to this country is intimidating GEJ out of power come 2015, then you would understand the real sabotage! The whole south south will be on fire and the effect oN the economy will be well pronounced!

Since una No wan give this man rest, no problem! One good turn deserves another. We are watching.



Bros God bless you are one of those in this forum that has said something sensible. Nigerian are jokers I feel so pity for this country a lot so do anyone with his right senses beleiving the way this man (Gej) is treated will go just like that I said this number of time so the North want to come and rule and the people of South South too will sit and be watching them? The politics that they are playing in Nigeria has really sowed the seed of vegeance and retaliation just lets wait we shall all see it, I dont know how a Mallam will now come and say I'm the president oh the Oil is for us all I laugh in my language it will be sad and a state of horror is about to explode in Nigeria. These boys in the greek are preparing everyday and night for a serious showdown.

The stupid Northern Anufia called elders are talking who are they?? Who cares Have they talk to Boko Haram Let them go to hell and as for OBJ, baba to be honest with you written letter to Gej is not a wise idea at all as per your status and experience in life because letter could be hijack or fall to wrong hands OBJ should have talk to Gej one on one and say his mind, by the way when Obj was the president please what did he do? Was his administration not part of the rotten Was he able to curb it then so why living office and turn to political activist now Its so sad, day by day Nigeria silly elders and politician are sowing the seed of vegeance and we are here jumping up and down celebrating what will tear this country apart in a short while ok oooo. No offence just my view.

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by patriotic007: 2:23pm On Dec 24, 2013
Ngene-Ukwenu:
Jonathan has dug his political grave with that Okukpe letter! This I know shocked
If you think so then twenty fifteen will teach you the political lesson of your life,...Just wait and see
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by meekhat: 2:37pm On Dec 24, 2013
patriotic007: Why wont GEJ's response be shallow?....Since your people ruined this nation for decades it was never shallow,...This born to rule mentallity must stop,...If the north is not leading then its a failure?,....for the record purpose GEJ is the only president since independence that has tried to remove the northern children from ignorance by using education as a tool,.....200 alimajiri schools and 6 new federal university for the north alone is not a joke,....yet they hate him so much,...they prefer ignorance and surfering as long as its their person in aso rock,...SMH
The whole scenerio reminds of a state in the North in those days who ascribe "BORN TO RULE" to herself. Let's pray for Nigeria
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by patriotic007: 2:52pm On Dec 24, 2013
Baba_O:
How old are u?. Jonathan should have replied that letter by himself with respect and address issues positively beyond obj's letter instead of him engaging bitter aides to be spewing negatives against obj.
Even with world bank VP credential holder in his govt to allow/contribute to such letter speaks volume of her management experience. I hope we don't loose this democracy sha..
See this self aclaimed old man asking about people's age,...I dont thing Your age has contributed much to your reasoning if not you should know that OBJ too did not write his letter by himself

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by decasey(m): 2:57pm On Dec 24, 2013
berem:


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hahahahahahaha, dis pple funny sha' waiting una want may d man talk, na wa ooo. E don ak obj 2 bring pruf bt up till now we neva here 4rm baba. Una stil dat talk say our prisido no try hmmmm!.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Aburumah75: 2:59pm On Dec 24, 2013
jerseyboy: If the mallams are against GEJ he must be doing something right. Mallams are parasites. They can't think straight.
yeah they are indeed parasites.
The only thing they are good at is producing meat, cotton,spices,foodstuffs,ginger,sesame,vegetables,leather and other consumables.
The sooner we do away with them the better for us all.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Nobody: 3:00pm On Dec 24, 2013
patriotic007: You might end up committing suicide when jonathan finally wins in twenty fifteen,....Because he is definately going to win my dear,....Nothing can stop him.

He will win very well in the SE and SS....unfortunately for you and sadly so...that can't make him President again in 2015.

We have so many enthusiastic kids supporting GEJ....that don't waste any second to hurl insults at the Yorubas and the Hausas.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Nobody: 3:03pm On Dec 24, 2013
decasey: hahahahahahaha, dis pple funny sha' waiting una want may d man talk, na wa ooo. E don ak obj 2 bring pruf bt up till now we neva here 4rm baba. Una stil dat talk say our prisido no try hmmmm!.

This is an archetypal horror that GEJ has wrought on our educational system here.

jmaine....I know you are on this thread....imagine the type of GEJ supporters you are in cahort with... grin grin shocked shocked
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Kingspin(m): 3:05pm On Dec 24, 2013
Fools of Elders and blood suckers. Stop the killings of other Nigerians in ur place.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Dewze(m): 3:07pm On Dec 24, 2013
oluakadinma: All those Questions asked by NEF should be directed to all the northern heads of state that contributed to this mess we are now.


The worst that can happen to this country is intimidating GEJ out of power come 2015, then you would understand the real sabotage! The whole south south will be on fire and the effect oN the economy will be well pronounced!

Since una No wan give this man rest, no problem! One good turn deserves another. We are watching.

I wish I could give a million likes to this post.
The first card that was played on this man's table right from the day he stepped into office smelled of tribalism all over.
Yet, they think they have the right to call him a tribalist.

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by ronski: 3:08pm On Dec 24, 2013
Naira land people una mouth too sharp
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by bamssy(m): 3:09pm On Dec 24, 2013
Demdem: Only fools will expect much from Jonathan.
We all should remember that he is naturally daft by default.
A letter emanating from him or office can't be an exception.
I expect these northern leaders to know this by now.
u r a big mouthed fool idiot of d highest ranking ware omo ale

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Archildao: 3:10pm On Dec 24, 2013
Jona no reply letter na wahala,jona reply letter na wahala...make una 'go and die!'

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by agabaI23(m): 3:21pm On Dec 24, 2013
Demdem: Only fools will expect much from Jonathan.
We all should remember that he is naturally daft by default.
A letter emanating from him or office can't be an exception.
I expect these northern leaders to know this by now.
The kind of hatred and disrespect you show this man makes one think he raped your wife. Tone down on the name calling and insult. He is a president of your country and you are probably a yoruba who is trained to respect his elders. This doesn't dignify you at all.

You can pass your displeasure without calling names. Na wa! Your choice at the end of the day!

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:26pm On Dec 24, 2013
99/100:

This moniker is gradually fading out and becoming unpopular in this forum. Fresh air has finally taken over nairaland.
@topic,NEF must be disappointed because Jonathan's response beats their imagination.He has the requisite wisdom of a leader.

Only goons like u that av a very miserable life in the real world will want ur e-life to be popular and relevant.
Goon, am not here to make u jerk off. I say my opinion as deem fit.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:29pm On Dec 24, 2013
moses2178:


Am sorry for you how can you call Mr. President a daft? You should be ashamed of yourself to call him names. He is a daft and he is ruling you.am so .sure your father will do worst than GEJ, since he can't train you up to maturity. The so called Ex-president should find a place and hide because he is guility of loads of mishap in Nigeria.

Fool, Jonathan is currently my president because of eediots like u who were swayed by his useless no shoes story.
U are right to say that even at his useless state, Jonathan is miles ahead of ur father. U are really doomed but eh, that's none of our business here.

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by karpentar: 3:30pm On Dec 24, 2013
berem:

what do you expect those "born to rule" believing bigots to say?



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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:31pm On Dec 24, 2013
gramci:

dummydummy even you when go night school de talk about letter writing grin

Gramdaft, indeed u are lost.
What has this gat to do with current Jonathan stupidity.

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by nokii: 3:36pm On Dec 24, 2013
Obi Okpor: NEF,is an irrelevant forum as long as SE/SS is concern,they are just punch of old,frustrated sets of human being.They can‘t tarnish the image of GEJ

Ma broda, SS and SE alone cannot Deliver jonathan he needs support of d north to win in 2015. Lemme give u a picture, Bayelsa state has. Only but 7 local Govts. Rivers has d 3rd highest voting power in nigeria but unfortunatly it has bin lost to APC.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:38pm On Dec 24, 2013
patriotic007: You might end up committing suicide when jonathan finally wins in twenty fifteen,....Because he is definately going to win my dear,....Nothing can stop him.

If Jonathan wins, no shaking. It's simply continuation of foolishness and stupidity in governance at a larger scale. It will not in any way affect Demdems fortune.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:38pm On Dec 24, 2013
chi4ik: and U ar d president of daft men association in d world. Akwuya......

Goon, u sound daft.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:41pm On Dec 24, 2013
bamssy: u r a big mouthed fool idiot of d highest ranking ware omo ale

Of cos u are a Bastard. But that is none of my business.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by karpentar: 3:42pm On Dec 24, 2013
nokii:

Ma broda, SS and SE alone cannot Deliver jonathan he needs support of d north to win in 2015. Lemme give u a picture, Bayelsa state has. Only but 7 local Govts. Rivers has d 3rd highest voting power in nigeria but unfortunatly it has bin lost to APC.

My friend say what you know. Yes Amaechi is popular here, but GEJ will win rivers state in any presidential election by a wide margin if APC candidiate is from the North. This is very certian.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Malachy27: 3:44pm On Dec 24, 2013
I think this December is a month of political letter writing...it first started with Obasanjo writing to president Jona, then counter replies from all pro-Jona and an affirmation ones from pro Obasanjo...then comes that of Iyabo Vs her father-in-law-chief Obasanjo, followed by president Jona's reply to Obasanjo's letter...so many of them like that. Now i heard Obasanjo is preparing to re-write president Jona...
However i want to tell d well meaning Nigerians that when a child learns a new word, he must re-echo it even in an unwanted environment. Obasanjo wants to tell us that he did Use of English in that Open University where i learnt that he studied Political Science...and as we all know letter writing is imbedded in that course. I guess that he may be practising what he learnt in that school on the entire nigerians

Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Dewze(m): 3:46pm On Dec 24, 2013
Na from your mama breast you dey suck to stay alive and yet you say your mama no go sleep well. You self no go get rest.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:48pm On Dec 24, 2013
agabaI23:
The kind of hatred and disrespect you show this man makes one think he raped your wife. Tone down on the name calling and insult. He is a president of your country and you are probably a yoruba who is trained to respect his elders. This doesn't dignify you at all.

You can pass your displeasure without calling names. Na wa! Your choice at the end of the day!

And how many times does demdem have to tell ur kind that he doesn't hate Jonathan?
He is obviously a good man, father, husband, teacher etc but as regards governance he sucks. His stupidity and foolishness in that department is what demdem hates which is his business.
Until ur hypocritical kinds stop calling other leaders names, Ebele Retardeen Jonathan is here to stay. Nothing personal, deal with that.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by karpentar: 3:50pm On Dec 24, 2013
meekhat: The whole scenerio reminds of a state in the North in those days who ascribe "BORN TO RULE" to herself. Let's pray for Nigeria

My brother is not just one Northern state. The whole core Hausa/Fulani North believe in the "born to tule" deception. Take time and read this below alarm raised by an ACN member:

The Cult of Born to Rule
THISDAY 15 Dec 2013
By Femi Fani-Kayode – Former Minister of Aviation.

In the last few days the following contributions from two eminent personalities have inflammed passions and been the topic of heated debate all over the country. The first came from Alhaji Lawal Kaita, a respected elderstatesman and a former Governor of the old Kaduna state on the platform of the defunct NPN. He was qouted as saying that “a Northerner must emerge President in 2015 or we will divide”.
The second came from Dr. Junaid Mohammed, a Second Republic legislator and a man that has held himself out as the unabashed spokesman of a small group of anti-southern and rabidly hardline conservative northerners over the last few years. He was qouted as saying that “there will be bloodshed if Jonathan runs in 2015”.
In as much as I have consistently and vigorously opposed the Jonathan presidency over the last two years there is only one thing that I abhor even more than the sheer ineptitude that I believe that the Jonathan administration represents and that is the sheer arrogance of a handful of those from the North whose opposition to Jonathan is not borne out of any desire for better governance but rather out of a deep desire for power to return to the North simply because they believe that that is where it ought to reside in perpetuity.
This school of thought can best be described as that of the ‘’cult of born to rule’’. Yet in fairness to the people of the north this deviant brand of thinking does not represent the views of the majority. They only represent the sentiments of a vocal and aggressive minority who have constituted themselves into a terrible virus and whose views have been openly rejected and condemned by the overwhelming majority of northerners themselves.
To suggest that the ‘’cult of born to rule’’ does not exist would be an exercise in perfidy and self-delusion. To accept that it exists and counsel that it ought to be ignored is an even more dishonourable and dangerous path to tread because it takes only one madman to set the family house on fire and burn it to the ground along with everyone in it. Whether we like it or not we must acknowledge the fact that the cult exists and we must accept the fact that we ignore their views and their nefarious activities at our own peril.
There is no doubt in my mind that Alhaji Lawal Kaita and Dr. Junaid Mohammed are leading members of that cult. They were both very vocal in their support of the annulment of Chief MKO Abiola’s June 12th 1993 election on the same grounds of ‘’northern rights and fulani supremacy’’ and they both wholly espouse the retrograde and odious philosophy that says that Nigeria was designed to be ruled only by the northerner. Their latest contribution to national issues are reflected in the two qoutations that I have cited above and frankly all I can say is that these two gentlemen have really got a nerve. The arrogance of their words remind me of an assertion by another well-known northern elder who, just a few weeks ago when I paid him a visit in his home, said, in my presecence and that of a number of others, that the ‘’northern christians are nothing’’ and that ‘’if push comes to shove and an election is fought their numbers count for far less than those of us
that are northern muslims’’.
Needless to say I, together with a number of others that were in that room, were utterly shocked by his submission. Clearly this man is still living in the past. For the record let it be clearly understood and let no-one be under any illusion about it- a rejection of or opposition to the Jonathan Presidency does NOT in any way mean that we will accept a return to the days of southern slaves and northern masters. It does not mean that we shall in any way, shape or form tolerate or accept the moribund philosophies and delinquent ethos of the ‘’cult of born to rule’’.
The sweet truth is that the days of the slave and the slavemaster, the horse and the horserider, the master and the grovelling servant and the ‘’poor husband of the north and rich wife of the south’’ (as Lord Lugard so aptly put it in 1914) are long over in Nigeria. They ended in 1999 with the ascension of President Olusegun Obasanjo to the throne and they shall NEVER return again. If Obasanjo did nothing else in the eyes of even his worst detractors he at least put a nail in that coffin.
He also managed to do the following- he kept Nigeria together despite the fact that at that time the country was on the brink of disintegration as a consequence of the deep alienation of the yoruba, the aftermath of the June 12th 1993 annulement and the terrible hand that General Abacha dealt the yoruba. He created a level playing field and ensured that ALL Nigerians, regardless of their religious faith or where they came from were treated as equals. He broke the hold and power of the north over the military and established the basis for a truly Nigerian Armed Forces as opposed to a northern one.
He ensured that a Niger Deltan became Vice President and later President of the Federal Republic. He ensured that an igbo man became a General Officer Commanding in the Nigerian Army (which was something that had not happened since 1966 after General Aguiyi-Ironsi was killed and since the civil war). He broke the power of the north over the oil sector, the public sector and the economy and he ensured that merit, rather than nepotism or ethnic bias, was the theme and life-blood of governance.
Under Obasanjo the north stopped being dependant on Federal Government appointments, contracts, largess and goodies and they stopped being indolent and parasitic. They were weaned off Federal government dependancy and their addiction to Federal Government patronage and they were forced to work hard and to be productive like everyone else.
This worked beautifully for the North itself and for Nigeria generally and it was under this strict regime of hard work, merit, productivity and discipline that a new generation of northern leaders, most of whom were young, confident, articulate, well-educated, well-informed, progressive, enlightened, liberal-minded and capable reformers, were spawned and introduced to public office in the country.
These were all pluses for Obasanjo but today, with the sort of sentiments being expressed by a few people in the north, it appears that some want to take us back to the dark old days of ‘’I must have an Alhaji on my board of directors before I can get anything’’. And God forbid that that should ever happen again. As the Americans would say ‘’we just ain’t going there’’.
The two comments that have been attributed to Kaita and Mohammed, both of whom are prominent and respected northerners with immense influence, are not only deeply offensive and provocative to every southerner worth his or her salt, the Yoruba included, but they are also most unhelpful.
They remind me of some of the sort of things that some of our Northern brothers were saying just after the annulement of the June 12th election in 1993 and throughout the period of the struggle against General Sani Abacha and the Northern-controlled Nigerian military as it then was.
Let no-one be in any doubt about one thing- the fastest way to unite the South and the Middle Belt and rally support for Goodluck Jonathan, no matter how bad he may be, is for Northerners to talk like Kaita and Mohammed have done here. They must stop it forthwith. Love him or hate him, Jonathan has the right to run and we have the right to either support him or not to support him.
The suggestion that there will be bloodshed if he runs simply because he is a southerner or that the country will divide if he happens to win fairly and squarely simply because, in the minds of some, a Northerner MUST rule at all costs in 2015 is completely unacceptable. It is also perfidious, intellectually dishonest, racist, shameful and utterly disgusting. Such sentiments will spark off a major conflict in this country if care is not taken and the issue will no longer be a Jonathan Presidency but rather a battle for southern rights.
If it ever comes to that some of us will have no choice but to stand with our people and damn the consequences. Hear me loud and clear- no matter what we will never allow this country to go back to the days of ‘’born to rule’’ and rather than allow that to happen we will simply scuttle Nigeria and divide her into two or more pieces before we all end up killing one another. A northerner can rule, not simply because he is a Northerner, but because he is the best man for the job and because the majority of Nigerians from both North and South want him as their President. Ditto a Southerner.
That is the only acceptable formula. They can take it or leave it. As long as I live the yoruba nation particularly will no longer be slaves to anyone again, whether it be northerner, igbo, ijaw or anything else. The days of compromise and sleeping with the enemy are long over. The South has had a raw deal in the last 53 years of our national existence when compared to the north and even a calamitous Jonathan Presidency does not derogate from that fact.
The last people to be issuing threats to Southerners, and I mean ANY Southerners including the Jonathan crowd, are the core Northern muslims who have held sway over the affairs of this country longer than anyone else in the last 53 years. If there is an alliance against Jonathan let it be based on the principle of equality of all peoples and the rights of all to equal opportunities including the right to rule Nigeria.
Any absurd notion about the so-called right of the north to dominate and perpetually rule and enslave others is rejected. That issue was settled long ago and not even a million Lawal Kaita’s or Junaid Mohammed’s can resurrect or restore such an intellectually barren and primitive philosophy.
Worst still if they try to do so no southerner worth his or her salt will align themselves with them. Fighting Jonathan is one thing but attempting to take on the whole of the south or denigrate her people is another. If the North is serious about taking power back in 2015 they need to do four things.
Firstly, they need to silence the voice of the ‘’cult of born to rule’’ and the fulani supremacists in their ranks who still believe that Nigeria is an extenstion of Usman Dan Fodio’s heritage and property. Secondly, they need to strongly condemn and disassociate themselves from the activities of Boko Haram and desist from asking for amnesty for such monsters. Thirdly, they need to stop all talk of a muslim/muslim ticket for 2015 as if the christians don’t exist.
And fourthly, they need to field a candidate that is either a liberal-minded Northern muslim who is well-known and acceptable to the South or a Northern christian that is trusted and acceptable to not only the South but also to the core muslim North. Anything short of these four steps will spell doom for the aspiration of the North to regain the presidency in 2015 and it will result in another victory for President Goodluck Jonathan.
A word is enough for the wise.

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Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Dewze(m): 3:50pm On Dec 24, 2013
Demdem:

If Jonathan wins, no shaking. It's simply continuation of foolishness and stupidity in governance at a larger scale. It will not in any way affect Demdems fortune.

you have just made clear and solid what we already know about people like you. That is, you care about yourslef and yourself alone.
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Validated: 3:51pm On Dec 24, 2013
Not sure how you became the judge. Your opinion is Yours. Keep it to yourself!
Re: Jonathan's Response Shallow, Disappointing - Northern Elders by Demdem(m): 3:55pm On Dec 24, 2013
Dewze:

you have just made clear and solid what we already know about people like you. That is, you care about yourslef and yourself alone.

If I care about myself alone, why will I be concerned about current stupidity in governance as displayed by Jonathan. Unfortunately, its making demdem richer.
Paper acheivement as against realities on ground. U aren't making sense.

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