janami:

zara
all you're sayn in essence is gse is preying on the plight of d jobless graduates. that is all this thread is all about and seeing that we r grads we do know what is up to fight for what is right

Nawewe has a good suggestion about reducing the price of GSE, if it cn be done, good, but a beta suggestion is getting prospective employees to pay for the search
Nelly
no mind them, na as d thing close them begin dey send id, tlk say mk i come pay 5k . na so life be.

U are a few steps from being myopic! d fact dat u av misgivens about GSE doesn't invalidate it as a great concept. Give us one reason why prospective employers shuld pay for you to be recruited in their firm.Tell me, if u WERE one, would u do that?

Yes, i dint think so.Nobody is preying on so-called plight of 'jobless graduates as u claim;its a concept that is open to anyone who wants to buy into it. If u dont want the test then apply in an organisation that doesnt use the test;to my last count, there are still hundreds of companies out there who dont use GSE scores. So wat really is d basis of ur arguments?

see it dis way, if u REALLY want 2 "fight for what is right" then fight againt this idea: www.shl.com

PS>My lasr word is dis: go back to school to be re-trained to reason objectively and sensibly;drop ur 'immature' student militancy and grow up,

SOJ:

see it this way, if u REALLY want 2 "fight for what is right" then fight againt this idea: www.shl.com

wayo! Advocate for GSE. Tlk about being myopic! Look Nawewe and Nelly have given good suggestions, if u work for dragnet, stop looking for cheap publicity, i am definitely not clicking on that link, i already had a problem of virus with one of them links

SOJ:

Give us one reason why prospective employers shuld pay for you to be recruited in their firm.Tell me, if u WERE one, would u do that?

Look at what he is saying sef. lol. i shldnt be really seen banging words with u
i would answer that question if u can tell me what HR  people do in a firm, besides, i am above that rubbish, i have more confidence in my ability and the only money i would be paying for a job is my tithe

PS>My lasr word is this: go back to school to be re-trained to reason objectively and sensibly;drop your 'immature' student militancy and grow up,

lol, soj, you're very funny. i shld tell u to go back to school to be able to read between the lines
And save your advise for people like yourself, i could school you better on the act of building clients for dragnet, and beleive me, u can do it in a lot more better ways than being an asswipe

@janami

kai! u REALLY should grow-up,,,ok,,,don't argue it,just take time to think about what av said,,,

cheers!

PS> consider my advice of returning to school.trust me, u need it.

@janami
U've jst shown dat u dont really read meanin into words else u wld hav known dat wat i meant was dat GSE is not responsible 4 d plight of graduates but rather d state of d nation(poverty).U ar jst tryin 2 put all d problems faced by graduates 2day on GSE as if dey ar d cause,its so unfair.U ar jst fightin d 'symptoms' & not d 'disease'.Problems such as cost of trans 2 test venues,hazards due 2 bad roads & also d 'man' know 'man' syndrome as wel as poverty etc.With or w/out GSE these problems wld stil be there.If u want 2 fight GSE advise companies 2 stop patronisin dem,but dey hav a very nice concept though.U dont read in btw lines else u wld hav known dat i was d first 2 suggest a reduction in thier fee.We shld be bothered on how 2 improve on GSE & not blast dem.D problem is dat u dont get it,it is all about d companies & not GSE.I beleive SOJ went a bit 2 far but he had som good points,there ar som companies dat dont use GSE why not try those ones rather dan tormentin urself.Support a good concept.

Yeah zaragoza, i probably went too far,,,,

@janami

do mind if i make it up 2 u wit lunch?

zara
u myt be right, but i am not still buying into the dragnet thing sha

soj
Nah. i guess i wld end up paying for both our lunch if i agreed to that

I love how dis discussion is finally winding up. I sense love in d air Janami u might want 2 give SOJ a try u neva can tell what wld be in stock 4 u. After all people hook up via internet. The name SOJ sounds promising. U know relationships dat last are those dat emanates 4rm misunderstandings. Janami maybe SOJ was jst tryin 2 tease u by askin u 2 go bak 2 school,maybe it was his way of xpressin love. Some actually xpress love by always attackin d person after thier heart. I advise u just give him a try u neva can tell.

janami:

soj
Nah. i guess i would end up paying for both our lunch if i agreed to that

LMAO!

Am a perfect gentleman,my dear,,,,no fear
So,,,wats it gonna be?R u taking up my offer?

zara
dnt mind you o! love ke ?

SOJ
oya send the rice. We will both cyber eat

@janami
Na so d thing dey start o! 4rm cyber eating to, U know what next. Thank God o! at least u've accepted 2 hav a date with him but still at the cyber levels, its not a bad start at all. After all u wld hav to start 4rm somewhere and u know what? U made a very positive start. SOJ d ball is now in ur court o! Janami has literally thrown d floor open so play ur card well. One more advise, Take ur chances as they come & always be prepared cos opportunity only favours prepared minds. Good luck! to the both of u.
I would like 2 be receiving minute by minute post on the 'state of the union'.

Hey, I've never heard of anyone who got a job with his dragnet score!!! Or there someone to contradict this??

Dragnet abi na GSE is a big Scam!!! Make una shine una eyes welll well oh!!

we have 2 examine GSE very well before running into coclusion

B4 u guys crucify the Dragnet organisers, what abt the federal government collecting money for PTDF scratch cards, I think the GSE idea is noble, although the execution might be a little below expectation. People always oppose change anyway, so I'm not surprised abt peoples responses.

I just hope i can migrate out of this land so my children dont end up being dragnet victims like me.

This good trend and I hope Nign graduares can always stand against such evil in d land anyone making calls to any radio/tv phone-in programme should raise it dt way it will get to the appropriate quarter

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THE ORGANISER OF DRAGNET EXAMS ARE BIG THIEF,I SUPPORT EVERY CRITISM AGAINST THE SO CALLED RECRUITMENT AGENCY BECAUSE SINCE THEY STARTED OPERATING I HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD ANY BODY WHO BOLDLY COME OUT TO SAY HE OR SHE HAS GOTTEN A JOB THRU DRAGNET.
MYSELF IS A VICTIM OF DRAGNET SCAMMED,I REGISTERED WITH THEM,WROTE THE EXAM AND AFTER THE DIVISION OF ALL MY TOTAL SCORE,MY SCORE ARRIVE AT 35% IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO GET ME A JOB? IT IS ENOUGH BECAUSE THE CUT OFF MARK IS ABOUT 20%,SO I WONDER WHAT TYPE OF GAME THEY ARE PLAYER.I PUT THEM BEFORE GOD TO JUDGE THEM.

I was almost tempted to register for the senseless exam but on a second thought i refused considering that atleast am a graduate and can do something for myself even when nobody is there. am happy with the response on the issue from nairalanders

Dear nairalanders,
I have never written to this site b4 but i think its high time i did.Majority of u i know are job seekers so this is for you. i will use my story. I had dreams like many of you about entering the big companies here in nigeria after finishing school but after couple of years of applying writing 1 or 2 tests,either never being called 4 an interview or getting to the interview stage and not getting the job.I began to loose hope and started feeling bad about not making a 2.1 or first class.Parents abused, friends left (including girlfriend) and i did not have the strength to do anything excepy stay at home and wallow in self pity.I was 27 and graduated at 21+.Then a wonderful friend told me a couple of things:1 There is no one alive who has a job or a business or is successful who did so without Gods favour or intervention so if you lose your faith yoyu loose your resolve to keep fighting for your desire and ur dreams  eventually even God himself cannot help you (2) you look too much in the papers without SEEING.I mean you apply to jobs which you obviously are not qualified for and think you will just be called. (3) you havent asked youself what exactly you are gifted in (Everyone has a gift) and chase it to the end.I always had a fascination with computers but studied Geology in School . I then decided i wanted a career in IT and set about acquiring what every company expects from a skilled IT person (they all want common things)-Experience(Acquired (2) in a small software developement firm),certificatuions(I have 6 of them now) and practical knowledge(there are training companies in the papers).It took me two years.In the end i was convinced i had the right skills and started applying.The rest they say is history.I am an assisstant IT manager now close to 30 and would like you all to keep trying, know exactly what companies require of you and acquire them.Keep believing

Dear Nairalanders,

I tire 4 us true.
No be dr fault na d fault of leadership.
How wont they thrive when u n i cry that d police we call "friend" collects bribe in broad daylight n nothing is done about it n leadership looks d other way .
Wetin come make u think say graduates talk more of d unemployed dey dr list talk more of making it priority.
Thank u 4 telling me UBN dey pay 55k .I go just go to my village go dey grow cassava at least i will be better off exporting it to china than wearing tie to earn 55kobo.

Please pray harder.I dey una back.
God will hammer those GSE robbers.
Where person when dey find work go 4 see N5,000-7,000 to take register?

Hi Guys,

They are indeed fraudulent.

I personally won a phone in programme grant for a accessment test with them since over a year ago at silverbird radio programme.

But as i write to you they are still on the verge of calling me for the so called test?

It certainly beats my imagination why someone will capitalize on the lack of jobs of Nigerian gradutes to treat them so bad

The government of the day should do something about agencies of this sort in Nigeria.

Many thanks to you brother for raising this awareness.

One love,


Ben Okolo
benjaminokolo1968@yahoo.com
08028927108

hello nairalanda.

Like as been previously said, the GSE people are Fraudster, they are even hearthless and i am sure that the CEO if they have any at all did not school in Nigeria.

I can not imagine afterall most of us struggle through our universities day to pay fees and at the end we Graduated, some people somewhere will now be dictating the norms of how to get Jobs again. Please let us just stop patronising them! its as simle as that.
Our Employers are not so wicked, it is either they organise their own recruitment process or they Give the contract to reputable companies like Kmpg Resourcing, Philips consulting, Viclawlrence and so forth.

And i also think reputable bodies like CIPM and NIM should check the activites of this so called GSE people.
Please lets keep up the good work as there are so many recruiting companies out there that does not charge a Dime.
GSE should go and learn how to negotiate very well so that they collect their consulting fee for organizations they are recruiting for not from poor and desperately search for anyjob job seekers.

Nairalander kindly try any of these Reputable consulting firm to drop your Cv with
1) Lonadek Oil and Gas for engineering and science students, there office is at Akin olugbade Street Victoria Island.
2) ICSL, 4 gbolade odubanjo street obanikoro
3) strategic Resourcing, @ the back of shoprite Lekki.

Take care all! and serach wisely.

Hi all,

I followed your arguments closely and I think that we all should start at the fundamentals.

I have organized a lot of interviews and i know for sure that the recruitment process is a way of identifying the best person for a job out of everyone that apllied for the job.

Now, when a company is trying to recruit someone, the company has in mind that he will pay the person's salary and take care of other overheads the person may incure while working for the company. The company recruiting should never ask for money from the applicants, if not, the applicants would question the capacity of the company in paying their salary and other benefits.

Secondly, if a recruitment agency is recruiting for a company, obviously they should charge the company they are recruiting for because they are helping the company identify the best person to fill up a vacancy in their organization. Now telling the applicant to pay for either a test or the opportunity to be interviewed for a particular position means that the recruitment firm is trying to get the best person out of the people that can afford to pay for a particular job; they are not getting the best hands for the job.

Thirdly, the difference between WAEC, NECO and other academic exams and the tests we write while trying to get a job is that WAEC, NECO and other academic and professional exams is a way to assess our understanding of a particular subject and thus grades us accordingly. We pay for this because the certificates are valuable and help us get well placed jobs and admissions if they are good. When we right tests in a recruitment process, the objective is to find a way to reduce the number of applicants from a huge number of applicants that may have applied. It is also a way of narrowing down the search to people with a specific ability and knowledge. We don't pay for this because the organizations do not give us certificates acknowledging that we took those tests.

I hope i have been able to shed more light.

whao finally, after starting this thread i can now say that the explicitness of the topic has just been deduced escpecially from the last post by obukoko,

@zaragoza
its been nice having you keep watch over the thread ,

@SOJ
you have also had your say but with its excesses i would say.

@janami
your point of view i would say has been pivotal, you stood your grounds, miss independent according to NEYO.

thanks janami

@obukoko
finally the insight , thank you sir

thank you all,

guys if it is true that they will give you the job it is worth a trial instead of walking up and down wasting taxi money in the sun and in the rain looking 4 job.i have a friend that got gtb job through gse.

@Nelly4
welcome back 4rm ur long trip. As 4 obukoko all what he said could still be argued fervently but i choose to rest my case, cos it would do me no good to keep on arguing. Nelly4 u started dis topic u beta keep a watch over it, ur baby has been crying since u went on ur long trip. Chao!

It depends on how ou see it.

Fellow NairaLanders!,

If you trace the antecedents of the organisers of this DRAGNET COMPANY you'll all agree with me that it was unemployement that actually DRAGED THEM INTO ITS NET or web. That is why they don't want to forget the source that propelled them into sudden riches, hence DRAGNET.

They are all graduates like you and I before they applied comon sense which is not comon to rip fellow jobless graduates off.

I'm thinking of the scheme I could equally use to make money now.So Nairalanders, don't blame me if you see a jobless graduate of 4years riding on TOYOTA AVALON suddenly.Just pray for successful execution for me

i've always said it times without no. dat companies askin u 2 pay for recruitmt are scammers;fraudsters. BEWARE OF THEM.

bottom line? , [b]BEWARE OF FRAUDSTERS[/b],

Ever since i came down to this country, i have been amaze by the level of not only insult but fraudulence the so call government of Nigeria allow to be perpetuate by these callous individuals and organisations.

How on earth will you ask a young graduate who have gone through countless strikes, burnt countless candles and finally graduated to now pay not for employment but, pay before his name can even be consider for employment. They come through different means, but, all still point Mr. EXPLOITATION.

The irony of it is that, 99% of this applicants will not be given employment. What is GSE? If it is GSE i need to be given employment then, why go to the university in the first place. No wonder, corruption is everywhere.

What i think should be done is, these organisation should allow any qualified graduate to apply free of charge then, those who are finally employed are made to pay an amount upon collection of their employment letters. Even this should be with the approve of the employing company or it can be agreement with the company. This will go a long way in saving a lot of graduate the stress of being in debts you don't know you are going to pay, thereby, reducing fraudulence.

Anything else is nothing but, broad day rubbing. The government should put some mechanism in place to check in disguise.

In as much as you can't ask someone to pay for goods he did not buy, then, you should not ask someone to pay for service(employment) not rendered.

DO WE HAVE MASS FRIENDLY GOVERNMENT AT ALL? NO[i][/i]

GOD HELP US IN THIS COUNTRY

please can the house tell me more about dragnet solution recruiting for FIRS