I went to Christ embassy yesterday for Sunday service and it was nice but there is some religious practice they do there that baffles me. It's called sowing in the word. Sowing in the word literally means that when a pastor makes a statement that really touched you, you can walk towards the pulpit with a check/money enclosed in an envelope. This is different from your tithe or normal Sunday collection. The person that invited me told me that it's not compulsory like the tithe but it's in appreciation for the way that particular comment from the pastor inspired you.

Have you heard of this practice before please? Is it biblical?

If Christ had adopted this financial strategy He'd have been a very rich man.
These CEOs (pastors) need to be in charge of our economy, we'd be a world power in 4yrs.

DZ
it is not done only in christ embassy
when the man of God says a word that moves you in the spirit, you sow whatever you have
IT NOT COMPULSORY OO
it was not instituted by my pastor, it just started on it's own.
I have seen people that dont have money sow their wristwatches or anyother thing

and in the tradition of my church such items
money-is put back into the church treasury
other items- are kept in the church store and disbursed to those that are in need of such items

it is not found anywhere in the bible

It is not scriptural

It is not biblical

And it is not compulsory.

So let every man follow the dictates of their hearts

And face the consequences.

affee:

DZ
it is not done only in christ embassy

DZ it is on that basis I changed the title.

@Davidylan: « #1 on: Today at 06:07:39 AM »

If Christ had adopted this financial strategy He'D have been a very rich man.
These CEOs (pastors) need to be in charge of our economy, we'D be a world power in 4yrs.

Madam sectere, the Obanta delegates, and I Olabowale the represenattive, nominated our own son of the soil, Davidylan for the post!



@affee (f): « #2 on: Today at 07:26:28 AM »

DZ
it is not done only in christ embassy
when the man of God says a word that moves you in the spirit, you sow whatever you have
IT NOT COMPULSORY OO
it was not instituted by my pastor, it just started on it's own.
I have seen people that don't have money sow their wristwatches or anyother thing

and in the tradition of my church such items
money-is put back into the church treasury
other items- are kept in the church store and disbursed to those that are in need of such items

it is not found anywhere in the bible

That is not only thing. If we apply this thought, above, as you have presented it, to what is not found in the Bible, Trinity will be upside down, even more than it is, now. And is there a Christ Embassy church in USA?

Ajiah, since you called me mallam. lol.

DZ
it is not done only in christ embassy
when the man of God says a word that moves you in the spirit, you sow whatever you have
IT NOT COMPULSORY OO
it was not instituted by my pastor, it just started on it's own.
I have seen people that don't have money sow their wristwatches or anyother thing

and in the tradition of my church such items
money-is put back into the church treasury
other items- are kept in the church store and disbursed to those that are in need of such items

it is not found anywhere in the bible

I know but that culture originated from Nigeria because I've never heard of it in American churches. What happened to " do not let your right hand know what your left hand is doing"? It's like walking towards the pulpit now with an envelope is the in thing. This lady went up there up to 5x and I was tempted to ask her to just sit down and bundle whatever she wants to give to God into one trip. Common!!

this is the first time I am hearing this

My people perish for a lack of knowledge.

Is there any scriptural basis for this "sowing in the word" type of collection?

Hi @DZ (mind if I call you that sometimes?),

DeepZone:

I know but that culture originated from Nigeria because I've never heard of it in American churches.

Well, that is news to me. . . although I cannot categorically say where I first noticed it. I once watched a service in progress and people just kept going to drop stuff at the pulpit so much so that to a casual observer it seemed to be a market place.

There are so many cultures that have crept into almost every religion in the world today. You name them and you will find sects, denominations, factions, and coteries in almost all of them. Our church is not the best, but one thing I so enjoy there is that the leaders ill not encourage anything that they cannot find in Scripture; yet, they encourage the members to not overwhelm other groups with what we believe.

If Christ had adopted this financial strategy He'D have been a very rich man.
These CEOs (pastors) need to be in charge of our economy, we'D be a world power in 4yrs.

@Pilgrim and Dudubobo, at least you guys did read Affee and AKO confirm it as a new age culture proliferating in our churches today. yesterday was the first time I saw that in my life.

DeepZone:

@Pilgrim and Dudubobo, at least you guys did read Affee and AKO confirm it as a new age culture proliferating in our churches today. yesterday was the first time I saw that in my life.

it couldn't have been a biblical culture

dudu-bobo:

this is the first time I am hearing this

My people perish for a lack of knowledge.

Is there any scriptural basis for this "sowing in the word" type of collection?

In my opinion,there's actually nothing with sowing.
You reap when you sow,that is scripture.
The only thing I wonder is how distracting this must be for people to walk up to the altar so many times to do this.
It doesn't sound like a good idea.
They could have a collection box at the back where people could put in whatever they have on the way out if the message of the day touched them.
The way this sonds,some people may just walk up to be noticed.
Secondly this introduces carnality where the pastor may be noting those that walk up so often
and his head may swell up when people keep walking up.
so in any sermon where no one walks up,people where not blessed?
There's a better way to do this.

dudu-bobo:

it couldn't have been a biblical culture

That's the point DeepZone was making in his reply to us.

plus_Queen:

In my opinion,there's actually nothing with sowing.
You reap when you sow,that is scripture.
The only thing I wonder is how distracting this must be for people to walk up to the altar so many times to do this.
It doesn't sound like a good idea.
They could have a collection box at the back where people could put in whatever they have on the way out if the message of the day touched them.
The way this sonds,some people may just walk up to be noticed.
Secondly this introduces carnality where the pastor may be noting those that walk up so often
and his head may swell up when people keep walking up.
so in any sermon where no one walks up,people where not blessed?
There's a better way to do this.

Gbam! Well done - good sense!

In my opinion,there's actually nothing with sowing.
You reap when you sow,that is scripture.
The only thing I wonder is how distracting this must be for people to walk up to the altar so many times to do this.
It doesn't sound like a good idea.
They could have a collection box at the back where people could put in whatever they have on the way out if the message of the day touched them.
The way this sonds,some people may just walk up to be noticed.
Secondly this introduces carnality where the pastor may be noting those that walk up so often
and his head may swell up when people keep walking up.
so in any sermon where no one walks up,people where not blessed?
There's a better way to do this.

I also noticed that 99% of people that walked up the altar were women. It was so distracting and annoying.

DeepZone:

I also noticed that 99% of people that walked up the altar were women. It was so distracting and annoying.

Wetin naw! You wan buy market? Abi na only our specie you dey see wey dey waka go the stage?

@topic

its not a new thingy now  even wen i travelled down to nigeria,a lot of churches engage themselves  wt it

its not compulsory,but like they said,maybe d pastor might say sthg dat touched ur heart,u wont even know wen u'd give d little u have.if d man is using for himself na him sabi,but i was told its used for charity and also in the church

ive done it b4

@pilgrim

how body?

hahaha

At it again

Just passed the Tv, im hearing Day of Atonement thingy thingy

which one be Day of Atonement blessing again, seven for that marra  

jennykadri:

@pilgrim

how body?

My sister, I dey! Still enjoying the grace of God over my life. U nko?

dudu-bobo:

it couldn't have been a biblical culture

Remember the Bible tells  and encourages us to give and there are  various examples of how the disciples gave but no set rules how to give.
So it's not very correct for us to say what is Biblical culture and what's not in terms of giving.
Giving is giving.
I would rather categorize this method into disorderliness.
Our God is a God of order that was why he went as far as instructing  through St Paul that women not speak in church and ask their husbands at home.
Only God knows how noisy these Corinthian women must have been to attract such a stern warning.

Remember Ananias and Saphirah where the church sold all the had and put the money into a common purse,we have an example ,should we now say this is the way for Christians to live.
The only prolem I have is the walking up and down in a service, it is very distracting and disorderly.
I would not be in  Church that does this sort of thing.
I want to sit and be ministered to without people walking around.
My own pastor actually forbids people from walking around during sermon and I've heard of many pastors who do same.
Unless one has an incompetent bladder, I see no reason for grown adults walking around when most sermons here in the USA are just about 1 hr.
And walking around to give an offering is no different.

Sowing d word?  

hahaha Grin

At it again

Just passed the Tv, I'm hearing Day of Atonement thingy thingy

which one be Day of Atonement blessing again, seven for that marra

roflmao

pilgrim.1:

My sister, I dey! Still enjoying the grace of God over my life. U nko?

over enjoying don kill me here,from one blessing to the other

i dey jare,just come back from work

Remember the Bible tells and encourages us to give and there are various examples of how the disciples gave but no set rules how to give.
So it's not very correct for us to say what is Biblical culture and what's not in terms of giving.
Giving is giving.
I would rather categorize this method into disorderliness.
Our God is a God of order that was why he went as far as instructing through St Paul that women not speak in church and ask their husbands at home.
Only God knows how noisy these Corinthian women must have been Grin to attract such a stern warning.

Remember Ananias and Saphirah where the church sold all the had and put the money into a common purse,we have an example ,should we now say this is the way for Christians to live.
The only prolem I have is the walking up and down in a service, it is very distracting and disorderly.
I would not be in Church that does this sort of thing.
I want to sit and be ministered to without people walking around.
My own pastor actually forbids people from walking around during sermon and I've heard of many pastors who do same.
Unless one has an incompetent bladder, I see no reason for grown adults walking around when most sermons here in the USA are just about 1 hr.
And walking around to give an offering is no different.

It's obvious that the church is replicating giving just to maximize their profit. Very soon, it'll be sowing in the choir, after all there are songs that inspired us and by 2015 you'll hear sowing in the pastors catwalk. i just don't know why women are always the culprits in these gimmicks.

It's just ridiculous seeing people rushing to the altar because the pastor read a line from the same bible they've been holding for ages.


Did you hear gamine propose her day of atonement blessing? That will be a new line soon.

DeepZone:

i just don't know why women are always the culprits in these gimmicks.

Ehen. . somebodi wan buy market!

Ehen. . somebodi wan buy market!

Let the somebody head to agboju and not in the church abeg.

Madam sectere, the Obanta delegates, and I Olabowale the represenattive, nominated our own son of the soil, Davidylan for the post!

Moderator please ban Olabowale here. He's anti christian.

DeepZone:

Moderator please ban Olabowale here. He's anti christian.

Hmmm, let am be! I dey beg.

DeepZone:

Let the somebody head to agboju and not in the church abeg.

C'mon DZ. . . look again - you know who d person b naw!

as someone earlier said maybe whenever the choir hits a high note,we run up and sow to their vocal chords
wonders shall never cease

Una no go quench me with laff!

@Plus_Queen: « #7 on: Today at 03:54:56 PM »  Alhamdulillah, you at least didn't call yourself, Plus_Queensize! lol.

Hi @DZ (mind if I call you that sometimes?),

Quote from: DeepZone on Today at 03:47:35 PM
I know but that culture originated from Nigeria because I've never heard of it in American churches.

Well, that is news to me. . . although I cannot categorically say where I first noticed it. I once watched a service in progress and people just kept going to drop stuff at the pulpit so much so that to a casual observer it seemed to be a market place.

There are so many cultures that have crept into almost every religion in the world today. You name them and you will find sects, denominations, factions, and coteries in almost all of them. Our church is not the best, but one thing I so enjoy there is that the leaders ill not encourage anything that they cannot find in Scripture; yet, they encourage the members to not overwhelm other groups with what we believe.  

The greatest show on earth would be a show presented in a market. Wouldn't since there is an already made audience pool in abundant!

And how are your church leaders dealling with the case of "TRINITY" since it is not found in the "SCRIPTURE?"  
 


@plus_Queen: « #11 on: Today at 04:02:07 PM »  

In my opinion,there's actually nothing with sowing.
You reap when you sow,that is scripture.
The only thing I wonder is how distracting this must be for people to walk up to the altar so many times to do this.
It doesn't sound like a good idea.
They could have a collection box at the back where people could put in whatever they have on the way out if the message of the day touched them.
[b]The way this sonds,some people may just walk up to be noticed.
Secondly this introduces carnality where the pastor may be noting those that walk up so often
and his head may swell up when people keep walking up.[/b]so in any sermon where no one walks up,people where not blessed?
There's a better way to do this.

You must have been a "Showstopper," in the days! Chei. Naija women sha. lol. Walking up to be noticed, head swelling up, etc. And you see why in Islam, men and women do not mix together in Ibadat (performing duties of worship in a communual sense among the believers)? Just imagine how many bloodhounds in the church, if you even can propose that the pastor/preacher, a mere human being can even be "noting and getting swelled up!"

You must have been a "Showstopper," in the days! Chei. Naija women sha. lol. Walking up to be noticed, head swelling up, etc. And you see why in Islam, men and women do not mix together in Ibadat (performing duties of worship in a communual sense among the believers)? Just imagine how many bloodhounds in the church, if you even can propose that the pastor/preacher, a mere human being can even be "noting and getting swelled up!"

Still am
You can legislate whatever you want  in Islam,as soon as that man leaves the mosque,he sees naked women both real and pictures.
He turns on his computer,naked women everywhere.
He closes his eyes,he can imagine women naked.
My dear,he even knows that underneath that woman in a burqua is a naked body
Rapes still happen in countries where women are forced to dress in flowing robes
Isn't that proof to you that merely seperating sexes in a place of worship means nothing

You my dear live in New York
how are you "holding yourself"
since you are bent on having women seperated.

Walking with Christ is of the heart.
You cannot control what people around you do
But the Christ in you can help you live a holy life even when all the women around you are shaking what their momma gave them