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| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 8:52pm On Sep 20, 2014 |
JonBee1: Just because I don't like the the personality and the ideology of El-Zak-zaky doesn't mean that I don't understand the difference between GOOD and EVIL; between the OPPRESOR and the OPPRESSED and between RIGHT and WRONG. 2 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 10:00pm On Sep 20, 2014 |
So no justice in sight for this man?. This is just plain wrong. If he and his group have been fanatics, media would have been spooky. I doubt govt is ready to take responsible. |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Sissie(f): 9:13am On Sep 21, 2014 |
[quote author=AlBaqir] Muslim vs Christian and Sunni vs. Shiite). So the man is on his own, nobody care, Not the Sultan of Sokoto, Not the Muslim leader, Not NSCIA, Not the civil right organization, Not the Amnesty int'l, Not CAN etc.) Everybody is okay with the atrocity since it is against El-Zak-zaky; until it happens to one of their interest tomorrow, then like the hypocrites they are they will scream blue murder to high heaven, as if it has never happen in the land before. Yet these same men and institution kept silent when an antecedent was being set. [/Quote] I agree with the post except this, the Muslim leader or NSCIA or the it's a Sunni vs Shia. I believe this is just one of those things to make it seem we are not united and that's how the sunni_Shia divide starts increasing. I think basically people kept quiet because that's the Nigerian way. What I mean by that is their has been so many extra judicial killings from maiduguri to kaduna and we as a people just keep silent, wé keep silent about almost everything. He was oppressed and wronged but we should not turn it to a Sunni Shia thing. |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Sissie(f): 9:16am On Sep 21, 2014 |
Empiree: So no justice in sight for this man?. This is just plain wrong. If he and his group have been fanatics, media would have been spooky. I doubt govt is ready to take responsible. Were you expecting justice? Even if they were fanatics, justice won't be served, instead more injustice would be committed. Government and responsibility don't go together, except It's Ayo Orisetjafor that's involved. |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 10:04am On Sep 21, 2014 |
^Indeed "Everyday is Ashura and Every land is Karbala" ~Imam Ali ibn Hussain, zainul abideen (as). |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 10:08am On Sep 21, 2014 |
"Certainly the congregational prayer has been decreed in order that the pure Faith in Unity, in Islam, and in worshipping Allah be openly revealed and (publicly) manifested, because, thereby and with its apparency the reason of Allah, Almighty and Glorious, will be completed for the totality of people in the East and West (of the world). (Thus, the reality of Islam will be manifested and known and infidelity and paganism before Islam will be like darkness before light which cannot resist and vanishes at last). Another reason (for decreeing the congregational prayer) is that those who are far from the truth, the hypocrite, and those who take it light but claim Islam, then they may, willy or nilly, treat accordingly and show Islam from them and try to protect (its laws in the society)." "Again, the congregational prayer causes people to know each other which makes it allowed and possible that some of them bear witness for some others about their Islam, wherein there is the means of facility and association for righteous deeds and godly actions which prevents too much disobedience against Allah, Almighty and Glorious." ~Imam Ridha (as) Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 88, p. 12 |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 10:35am On Sep 21, 2014 |
There is a need for establishing Muslim civil right organizations in Nigeria. Although there are enough Muslim groups but they are mainly basic religious focus. They need to be sophisticated. Add social programs and chapters in all states defending rights of Muslims at local and federal levels just like in the US. These groups need to be innerconnected. These civil right groups need to put differences aside to be successful. Otherwise, plight of Muslims in Nigeria has just started. They will be killing you guys like chicken and nothing you can do about it. 1 Like |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 12:38pm On Sep 21, 2014 |
In one of his pathetic sermons, a salafi Ustaz, Ali Jabata claimed any muslims who believe Ebola virus is a transmittable disease has committed Shirk (polytheism). While he downplay many hadith of the prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) which warns against entering an epidemic society, he stressed there is nothing like communicable or transmission of diseases but "qadar" (predestination). He says it is Allah who caused it and only He can decide who gets infected. In fact I really wish he and his fanatic followers should be taken down to Sierria leone or Liberia without any protective gear, to test their hardened Iman (Faith). He however blown himself saying if the drug or vaccine for the disease has been found, the infected people should be given for the cure and prevention. I ask if only Allah is the 'causer', He 'alone' should have the authority of removing it not "a drug". In fact, according to his takfiriology, Jabata has proven to be Kafir for believing "a drug" can cure or prevent Ebola. Jabata on Ebola (Yoruba language): http://voiceofthesalaf.com/audios/ |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:57pm On Sep 21, 2014 |
Some Of Our Salafi Brothers Are Funny Dudes. |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba12345: 4:17pm On Sep 21, 2014 |
Empiree: Some Of Our Salafi Brothers Are Funny Dudes. That man is just uneducated and promoting his ignorance. No need to bring tags here.... |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:45pm On Sep 21, 2014 |
tbaba12345:Haq |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Logic007: 3:33am On Sep 22, 2014 |
tbaba12345: In the past people learned Islam from the behavior of Muslims. But today we have to tell people "Don't judge Islam by the actions of the Muslims." Islam is not what Muslims do, but what they are supposed to do. Some people are funny a) Atheist points to the behaviour/discrimination from many muslims in islamic countries b) Muslim apologist says dont judge islam by the behaviour of those muslims a) Atheist points out some verses in the Quran/hadith used by the said muslims to justify their oppression b) Muslim apologist says "you are quoting out of context" 1 Like |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Logic007: 3:34am On Sep 22, 2014 |
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| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Logic007: 3:37am On Sep 22, 2014 |
Food for thought. The worst countries for atheists are overwhelmingly islamic countries http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/12/10/new-report-details-the-worst-countries-in-the-world-in-which-to-be-an-atheist/ The only countries where atheism is a crime are islamic countries eg Saudi Arabia ================================== Considering the two facts stated above, does any muslim truly expect atheist to see islam in a positive light? |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Logic007: 4:01am On Sep 22, 2014 |
Continuing this line of thinking, the worst kind of atheists you can meet are communists The mass murderers who were atheists were communists- Stalin and Mao. China is a communist country. China has some open discrimination against muslims. However, muslims in China enjoy more freedom than atheists/christians in Saudi Arabia. Muslims in China go to mosques, have their muslim association and so on. The discrimination comes from restricting them from some government jobs, banning fasting and telling them to shave. Also, conservative islamic views can be taken as terrorism (therefore arrests)....the Uyghurs have suffered this. Now compare this to Saudi Arabia where openly blogging as an atheist carries a death penalty (saying there is no Allah =blasphemy), which will as usual be reduced to some flogging and imprisonment after pressure from the international committee. One cant have an open atheist organisation in Saudi. Atheist women must dress religiously conservative. This is not even mentioning the restriction on Christian worship and bibles |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Logic007: 4:02am On Sep 22, 2014 |
Continuing this line of thinking, the worst kind of atheists you can meet are communists The mass murderers who were atheists were communists- Stalin and Mao. China is a communist country. China has some open discrimination against muslims. However, muslims in China enjoy more freedom than atheists/christians in Saudi Arabia. Muslims in China go to mosques, have their muslim association and so on. The discrimination comes from restricting them from some government jobs, banning fasting and telling them to shave. Also, conservative islamic views can be taken as terrorism (therefore arrests)....the Uyghurs have suffered this. Now compare this to Saudi Arabia where openly blogging as an atheist carries a death penalty (saying there is no Allah =blasphemy), which will as usual be reduced to some flogging and imprisonment after pressure from the international committee. One cant have an open atheist organisation in Saudi. Atheist women must dress religiously conservative. This is not even mentioning the restriction on Christian worship and bibles Point; even the worst atheists are not as intolerant as one of the most popular islamic countries (Saudi) when it comes to religious freedom |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:55am On Sep 22, 2014 |
@ Logic007, how about you keep to yourself?. How about you mind your business and leave religious section alone? Why are you trying to act as if you are the custodian of Christianity-christians and Islam-muslims?. Why does it pain you so much. Leave religious section alone and stick to your atheist section, if any. We are already warned that if we are to follow most of mankind we woould have gone astray.We have our source of guidance (Quran) but you have none. So pease leave religious section alone. The fact that you keep coming here shows how frustrated you are. 3 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 12:08pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Empiree: @ Logic007, how about you keep to ourself?. How about you mind your business and leave religious section alone? Why are you trying to act as if you are the custodian of Christianity-christians and Islam-muslims?. Why does it pain you so much. Leave religious section alone and stick to your atheist section, if any. We are already warned that if we are to follow most of mankind we woould have gone astray.We have our source of guidance (Quran) but you have none. So pease leave religious section alone. The fact that you keep coming here show how frustrated you are.Don't mind mister 'consultant'.Bro Rilwayne001 I don site moniker number 15 ooo  2 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Rilwayne001: 3:14pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
lanrexlan: Don't mind mister 'consultant'.Bro Rilwayne001 I don site moniker number 15 ooo 15 moniker  Seun Osewa are you sleeping  SMDH @logicboy oh sorry abdulsleek, abi na macddady oooooh logic007 Ur case is very similar to a sick person not seeking for a cure cos he doesnt believe he's sick but enjoys calling others sick. Allah's healing hand will be on you and you will be healed of your malady and be made whole.6 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by ayinba1(f): 5:08pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Amin. I actually feel sorry for him. He cannot possibly experience peace in his heart with the way he is now. 2 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 8:15pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
At a time of rampant, unwarranted, and senseless killing, some important prophetic traditions to ponder over: The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "The first (thing) that will be decided among people on the Day of Judgment will pertain to bloodshed." [Al-Bukhārī and Muslim] Ibn Ḥajar said, “The ḥadīth shows the importance of blood; and usually we begin with the important things. A sin would be weighed according to the mischief it causes and the interest that it would forgo. Putting an end to a human being's life is something major.” [Fath al-Bārī; 12/189] The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "A faithful believer remains at liberty regarding his religion unless he kills somebody unlawfully." [Al-Bukhārī] Abdullāh Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, “One of the evil deeds with bad consequence from which there is no escape, is to kill someone unlawfully”. [Al-Bukhārī] The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "The biggest of the great sins are (1) to join others as partners in worship with Allah, (2) to murder a human being..." [Al-Bukhārī] The Prophet said, "The most hated persons to Allah are …a person who seeks to shed somebody's blood without any right." [Al-Bukhārī] The above texts are general and absolute. These texts involve the sacred lives of the believers and the non-believers. Ustadh Imtiyaz Damiel 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by MessiRonaldo007: 6:10am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Empiree: @ Logic007, how about you keep to yourself?. How about you mind your business and leave religious section alone? Why are you trying to act as if you are the custodian of Christianity-christians and Islam-muslims?. Why does it pain you so much. Leave religious section alone and stick to your atheist section, if any. We are already warned that if we are to follow most of mankind we woould have gone astray.We have our source of guidance (Quran) but you have none. So pease leave religious section alone. The fact that you keep coming here shows how frustrated you are. lanrexlan: Don't mind mister 'consultant'.Bro Rilwayne001 I don site moniker number 15 ooo Rilwayne001: ayinba1: See them. The truth is bitter. It would be better for you to address the fact that islam is the worst when it comes to religious tolerance of atheism. It is the least tolerant religion towards atheists as it is practised in many islamic countries...... It would be better if you guys addressed the issue rather than attacking Mr Logic. |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdH: 6:48am On Sep 23, 2014 |
MessiRonaldo007: ^^^Another one.....don't you get tired? |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by MessiRonaldo007: 7:09am On Sep 23, 2014 |
AbdH: Address the issue. Atheists suffer the worst intolerance from muslims and not christians nor jews. (also ask if your mod doesnt get tired of banning people) |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:27am On Sep 23, 2014 |
MessiRonaldo007:Mr Logicboy again moniker number 16.Brother Vedaxcool was right though,consultant in circumvening bans and opening many monikers.Yorubas will say 'Bi ebiti o ba pa eku,a si fi eyin fun eleyin' roughly translated to ''If a trap doesn't catch a mouse,then it will at least return the food in it to the owner''. Your atheistic evangelism doesn't yield any positive result even using 16 monikers,why don't you quit and stop Trolling? Seriously,nobody is interested in your views/posts except your close friend usermane. 4 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:28am On Sep 23, 2014 |
AbdH: ,that's his job in his 'online organization'.He's very skillful in that aspect,he's got a talent there.1 Like |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by MessiRonaldo007: 7:36am On Sep 23, 2014 |
lanrexlan: Mr Logicboy again Nobody is interested in my views? You that have been following all my posts...you remembered my old posts that I even forgot. You remembered what I studied and the sector that I worked in!!! By the way, I am not an evangelist. However, do you know that there is a silent majority here on NL? Some people have been emailing me with thanks for my courage in the islam section. Some usernames you even hardly see comment. You, Tbaba2345, Rilwayne01, vedaxcool and co do not represent all nairaland muslims |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by MessiRonaldo007: 7:37am On Sep 23, 2014 |
lanrexlan: Address the issue MessiRonaldo007: |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:46am On Sep 23, 2014 |
MessiRonaldo007:Following all your posts? Tufiaka,both threads were threads I commented on so I would see your posts. @underlined,congratulations mister add that to your list of achievements 3 Likes |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by MessiRonaldo007: 7:54am On Sep 23, 2014 |
lanrexlan: Following all your posts? Tufiaka,both threads were threads I commented on so I would see your posts. Salaam |
| Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:12am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Who is this pikin? MessiRonaldo007: |
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