lomaxx:



"Let's see whose certificate will be better recognized"

"Let's see who will get employed before the other"

You think you will carry rubbish grammar to go to the western world and they will clap for you ? After committing these unforgivable errors in simple English language, don't you think the "western people" will question your more employable nursing skill ?

In case you were not aware, over 25% of physicians practicing in the US are IMGs. And the number is expected to increase over the years owing to an expected physician shortage. Go to the website of the American Medical Association to see things for yourself. Nigerian doctors are taking advantage of the opportunity in their droves. I know a good number that dumped this thing you are doing in this country to where they fit better. Go to Australia, South Africa, Cuba, China, Germany - you'll find Nigerian doctors all over.

You should rather be worried. Instead you're here having false hope. When we all leave who will treat your uncles, aunties, parents, siblings, and villagers?? Abi when you carry your employable nursing degree to the west, you will carry your village also?

Rubbish!!!

jauntty: We hope the strike end soon.......However, I do not like the way FG is handling this matter. This is not just NMA vs FG , neither is it JOHESU vs FG, Its more of NMA vs JOHESU vs FG, and any solution that doesn't bring these 3 groups to a round table might not be long lasting. E.g. If FG agrees with NMA and stop Consultancy status for others, JOHESU will declare their own Strike. My advice is that we should avoid these sentimental and myopic views about these issues and ask our selves this question : What is the healthcare system and structures like in developed countries This should guild us in resolving this issues. Nigeria is not an island of its own.

YourHealthlabs:

Stop threatening the guy with 'if we leave'.
There are Nigerian docs in U.S yes..but most were trained there. The chances of any foreign doc passing USMLE and practicing there is just 3%, for American-trained docs it 97%.

He is right to an extent, there are more demand for Nurses,MLS and physios than there is for foreign-trained physicians in US and Canada. Even Americans trained in other countries find it difficult to practice in the U.S.

Go check their immigration/pr policy and see the professions they prirotize. M.B.B.S is NOT an international standard.

Always present facts and guide people right.
Thank you.

12 inches!:
Perhaps you are not well educated enough to know that professional courses are very well controlled. If a Nigerian doctor,Engr,lawyer,architect etc leaves Nigeria to practice,he usually needs to obtain license in that country to practice. Obtaining a professional license usually involves writing a series of exams in that country. This doesn't mean you're not a quality professional. It is a way to maintain standards of the profession and ensure you understand the ethics of the profession in the country you're immigrating to. Professionals are very well paid abroad unlike in Nigeria.

duniya @zola:
suggest how best union should go about stuffs lyk dis

YourHealthlabs:

Stop threatening the guy with 'if we leave'.
There are Nigerian docs in U.S yes..but most were trained there. The chances of any foreign doc passing USMLE and practicing there is just 3%, for American-trained docs it 97%.

YourHealthlabs:

Stop threatening the guy with 'if we leave'.
There are Nigerian docs in U.S yes..but most were trained there. The chances of any foreign doc passing USMLE and practicing there is just 3%, for American-trained docs it's 97%.


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YourHealthlabs:

Stop threatening the guy with 'if we leave'.
There are Nigerian docs in U.S yes..but most were trained there. The chances of any foreign doc passing USMLE and practicing there is just 3%, for American-trained docs it's 97%.

He is right to an extent, there are more demand for Nurses,MLS and physios than there is for foreign-trained physicians in US and Canada. Even Americans trained in other countries find it difficult to practice in the U.S.

Go check their immigration/pr policy and see the professions they prirotize. M.B.B.S is NOT an international standard.

Always present facts and guide people right.
Thank you.

YourHealthlabs:

This is the only reasonable post here,

Tytto: Thank You for telling him oooo. .

lomaxx:

And you are the most unreasonable person on this thread. You're not just unreasonable, you're also ignorant. Next time you know nothing about what you know nothing about, kindly ask. I'll teach you.

Rubbish!!!

lomaxx:



"Let's see whose certificate will be better recognized"

"Let's see who will get employed before the other"

You think you will carry rubbish grammar to go to the western world and they will clap for you ? After committing these unforgivable errors in simple English language, don't you think the "western people" will question your more employable nursing skill ?

In case you were not aware, over 25% of physicians practicing in the US are IMGs. And the number is expected to increase over the years owing to an expected physician shortage. Go to the website of the American Medical Association to see things for yourself. Nigerian doctors are taking advantage of the opportunity in their droves. I know a good number that dumped this thing you are doing in this country to where they fit better. Go to Australia, South Africa, Cuba, China, Germany - you'll find Nigerian doctors all over.

You should rather be worried. Instead you're here having false hope. When we all leave who will treat your uncles, aunties, parents, siblings, and villagers?? Abi when you carry your employable nursing degree to the west, you will carry your village also?

Rubbish!!!

YourHealthlabs:

Hahahahah, emotions..emotions. I won't let you mislead people here.

Your sources are good, they are also from the American Medical Association..great.

You forgot forgot to give us a link about the Nigerian-trained physicians percentage in the U.S and Canada.

Let me show you something, an independent source.

"It is a fact that of all the IMG's that come to Canada, 90-95% will not obtain a residency. The few that do, do so, after either years and years of trying, or, because they know people in high places who 'pull strings' for them".-source http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/img-canadian-read-this-please.469613/

another excerpts

"Consider Sajith Abeyawickrama, 37, who was a celebrated anesthesiologist in his native Sri Lanka. But here in the United States, where he came in 2010 to marry, he cannot practice medicine."

The biggest challenge is that an immigrant physician must win one of the coveted slots in America’s medical residency system, the step that seems to be the tightest bottleneck.

That residency, which typically involves grueling 80-hour workweeks, is required even if a doctor previously did a residency in a country with an advanced medical system, like Britain or Japan. The only exception is for doctors who did their residencies in Canada.

The whole process can consume upward of a decade — for those lucky few who make it through.- source
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/business/economy/long-slog-for-foreign-doctors-to-practice-in-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Nigerian docs are very good at rubbishing other guys professional qualifications but they forget that M.B.B.S is not an international standard for doctors. With your Nigerian M.B.B.S, you won't be allowed to touch a dog in an advanced country. I'm sorry that's the way it is.

'Lots of people think mbbs is their ticket to immigration elsewhere, or their ticket to the Big Bucks. It is neither! First, mbbs is at best a third-rate qualification, and it's being supplanted by MD, the international standard. The only places with any real shortage of medical professionals are impoverished third world countries - like Pakistan, Bangladesh, most African countries, etc"-source--https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131105072323AA1XKYs

I have more but let me stop here for now.

Let's always say the truth.

YourHealthlabs:

Hahahahah, emotions..emotions. I won't let you mislead people here.

Your sources are good, they are also from the American Medical Association..great.

You forgot forgot to give us a link about the Nigerian-trained physicians percentage in the U.S and Canada.

Let me show you something, an independent source.

"It is a fact that of all the IMG's that come to Canada, 90-95% will not obtain a residency. The few that do, do so, after either years and years of trying, or, because they know people in high places who 'pull strings' for them".-source http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/img-canadian-read-this-please.469613/

another excerpts

"Consider Sajith Abeyawickrama, 37, who was a celebrated anesthesiologist in his native Sri Lanka. But here in the United States, where he came in 2010 to marry, he cannot practice medicine."


The biggest challenge is that an immigrant physician must win one of the coveted slots in America’s medical residency system, the step that seems to be the tightest bottleneck.

The whole process can consume upward of a decade — for those lucky few who make it through.- source
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/business/economy/long-slog-for-foreign-doctors-to-practice-in-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0




Nigerian docs are very good at rubbishing other guys professional qualifications but they forget that M.B.B.S is not an international standard for doctors. With your Nigerian M.B.B.S, you won't be allowed to touch a dog in an advanced country. I'm sorry that's the way it is.


'Lots of people think mbbs is their ticket to immigration elsewhere, or their ticket to the Big Bucks. It is neither! First, mbbs is at best a third-rate qualification, and it's being supplanted by MD, the international standard. The only places with any real shortage of medical professionals are impoverished third world countries - like Pakistan, Bangladesh, most African countries, etc"-source--https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131105072323AA1XKYs


I have more but let me stop here for now.

Let's always say the truth.

lomaxx:

Young woman, this is not an issue of intimidation. What just transpired on this thread is what typically goes on in our hospitals. I make my point and from a wide knowledge base supported with facts. Your lab guy feels threatened and comes with baseless information with paucity of knowledge.

Instead of clapping for someone who knows nothing, you should be ashamed for supporting ignorance. If you don't know , ask and you will be taught!!!

Tytto: If not for the Nigerian government that is over celebrating them, release them all to go to the western world and let see who certificates are more recognise. Let see who will first get employed, is it the "Nurses" or "the Nigerian over- hype doctors".

chimoz: Hahahahahahaha.....We are now knowing who is important and who is not. next time johesu goes on strike, they should not dare touch government property.
Was at the hospital yesterday morning to do some referrals, one of the nurses walked up to me and said "Ozie, this thing your NMA is doing is not good, most of this patients are dying and there is nothing we can do. Their blood is on NMA head"

lomaxx:



"Let's see whose certificate will be better recognized"

"Let's see who will get employed before the other"

You think you will carry rubbish grammar to go to the western world and they will clap for you ? After committing these unforgivable errors in simple English language, don't you think the "western people" will question your more employable nursing skill ?

In case you were not aware, over 25% of physicians practicing in the US are IMGs. And the number is expected to increase over the years owing to an expected physician shortage. Go to the website of the American Medical Association to see things for yourself. Nigerian doctors are taking advantage of the opportunity in their droves. I know a good number that dumped this thing you are doing in this country to where they fit better. Go to Australia, South Africa, Cuba, China, Germany - you'll find Nigerian doctors all over.

You should rather be worried. Instead you're here having false hope. When we all leave who will treat your uncles, aunties, parents, siblings, and villagers?? Abi when you carry your employable nursing degree to the west, you will carry your village also?

Rubbish!!!

lomaxx:


The story for Canada is different. Even an embryo knows this. Are you aware that Canadians seek to practice in the US as well?

jauntty: We hope the strike end soon.......However, I do not like the way FG is handling this matter. This is not just NMA vs FG , neither is it JOHESU vs FG, Its more of NMA vs JOHESU vs FG, and any solution that doesn't bring these 3 groups to a round table might not be long lasting. E.g. If FG agrees with NMA and stop Consultancy status for others, JOHESU will declare their own Strike. My advice is that we should avoid these sentimental and myopic views about these issues and ask our selves this question : What is the healthcare system and structures like in developed countries This should guild us in resolving this issues. Nigeria is not an island of its own.

annoymous: Too many strikes by the NMA. it has lost its flavor. Even if what they are fighting for is right, strike action shouldn't be the first thing on the agenda.

YourHealthlabs:



I have absolutely nothing against Nigerian docs, i salute the respectable ones, it's a mutual thing, but selling the "America-really-wants-Nigerian-physicians" balderdash on T.V, radios, newspaper, relegating other professionals and misrepresenting facts to the gullible populace can not be condoned by those who know the goings-on.

lomaxx:

Young woman, this is not an issue of intimidation. What just transpired on this thread is what typically goes on in our hospitals. I make my point and from a wide knowledge base supported with facts. Your lab guy feels threatened and comes with baseless information with paucity of knowledge.

Instead of clapping for someone who knows nothing, you should be ashamed for supporting ignorance. If you don't know , ask and you will be taught!!!

sainty2k3:

Curriculum is not the same and requrirements for practice differ, no country will take in anoda doctor trained elsewhere without writing there licensing exams, even if u trained in UK it will take that same number of exams to practice in us, even doctors trained in us can't practice in Nigeria without found 6month training and writing proper exams. Most countries can freely allow nurses cos be the virtue of your profession u are to follow instructions and not to ,make decision concerning patient care, but for doctors that will make decisions, even of u train in UK U'll have to pass all the usmle stages before u can practice in US, so the situation is not in anyway peculiar to noigeria doctors.and Nigeria doctors are doing great over there

s!s! afrika:
ur such a shame. And it gives u joy wen patient die right? Dez ppl avv no business wit d hospital in d first place, Boko Haram would av been ur best employer.