Ngwakwe: I cannot guess or rate his performance using your so-called world standard but one thing I know, is -

He is better than Barack Obama and nowhere near Angelo Merkel but can be grouped with Nicolas Hollande

This is my assessment.

1United1:

Sarcasm is I guess?

Ngwakwe: I cannot guess or rate his performance using your so-called world standard
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Obiagelli:
that moment when you are about to defend a failed project.

Ngwakwe:

You mean Nigerians are failed projects?

Like father like son and mother like daughter(s)

Obiagelli:
i thought thread was about our failed president.

Ngwakwe:

Depending on your perception?

Hate or like him, he is a Nigerian and has considerable supporters from within the electorate to see him through a second term if he so desire to contest.

Democracy is about the wishes and choice of the majority and not of the vocal minority, though they will have their say while the later have their way.

PhockPhockMan: Op, I fit piss here.......?





This thread stinks.

Ngwakwe: I cannot guess or rate his performance using your so-called world standard but one thing I know, is -

He is better than Barack Obama and nowhere near Angelo Merkel but can be grouped with Nicolas Hollande

This is my assessment.

Ngwakwe:

Depending on your perception?

Hate or like him, he is a Nigerian and has considerable supporters from within the electorate to see him through a second term if he so desire to contest.

Democracy is about the wishes and choice of the majority and not of the vocal minority, though they will have their say while the later have their way.

deesquarediddy:

I opened this thread for Nairalanders who are not politically biased or loyal to any political party (PDP or APC). Only few who will view issues the right way as a concerned Nigerian and make reasonable comment.

Left to me, GEJ will score below average in most of these indicators. Therefore he doesn't deserve promotion (second term). However, i'm also concerned about whom should come into power by 2015 if not GEJ (a better alternative) considering the fact that the current crop of politicians we have in power are all political jobbers mortgaging the future of our dear country. Both PDP and APC are two rotten apples, so no one should talk about party ideologies here.

Obiagelli:
if Nigerians can't find and support a better candidate amongst our poliiticians then we are our own problem.

Btw i hate this saying of Nigerians that don't have bias for any party. Are you looking for leaders from heaven.

deesquarediddy:

In all of them you will
find common qualities… greediness, corruption,
cluelessness regarding how governance should be
delivered except for few.

deesquarediddy:

Nigerians, funny people…we crave for change, yet we see the political jobbers as the real politicians, we support them and vote them into power and cry for 4 years thereafter. When people like utomi contested for president, how many of us voted for him? Remember Late Gani Fawehimi once contested the Presidency, how many people voted for him? Wole Soyinka has a registered political party, with patriotic and nation building ideologies, what is its membership strength? We will continue to get the kinds of leaders we deserve. We need to change our ideologies and a lot of re-orientation is required on the part of the citizenry before we can get it right in this country.

Obiagelli:


Question to you is how then do we get these people to win election. Waiting for your response.

Obiagelli: deesquarediddy, It would be a shame if you don't reply me, i saw your viewing a moment ago.

deesquarediddy:

Like i said earlier, the average Nigerian citizens deserve the kind of leaders we get; we have this abnormal way of supporting mediocrity.

What is wrong with Politics in Nigeria? We don’t act with reason rather we allow factors such a religion, ethnicity, language differences come first all above normal reasoning when making our choices. I know these factors cannot be neglected in a country as diverse as ours but we can rise above it with adequate knowledge of what democracy means, proper reorientation and above all…change in our mentality.

So, how do we go about it? Education! Education!! Education!!!

deesquarediddy:


LOL…i was preparing my reply and I had to attend to something in the office.
See, I understand the whole point you’re trying to make about we not throwing the baby away with the bath water all because we feel the water is bad but should we continue to thrive in this hardship, oppression, imbalance all because we want to stick to doing things the same way we have been doing it for years when it’s not yielding results?

deesquarediddy:

I refer to Nigerians who are not politically biased as people who will under no circumstances allow their political affiliations/interests becloud their judgments.

Also, I did not at any time make that statement that we can’t find a better candidate among our politicians. I only talked about the current people in power (PDP) and the potential people who might serve as alternative (APC, the opposition members). In all of them you will find common qualities… greediness, corruption, cluelessness regarding how governance should be delivered except for few. These politicians (PDP and APC, the two giants as case study) lack internal democracy if you study their party structure and activities, so how do we even expect them to perform.

So, are you saying there are no politicians outside this category (the ones we don’t see as big fish, the ones we see as mere technocrats/professionals) or politicians from parties we see as unpopular who will outperform these thieves? We tend to look at only candidates from PDP/APC/LP as credible when we talk about whom will lead this country. Are there not other politicians? We forgot that majority of members from these political parties are all the same people in power since 1999. (Changing from one party to another)

Nigerians, funny people…we crave for change, yet we see the political jobbers as the real politicians, we support them and vote them into power and cry for 4 years thereafter. When people like utomi contested for president, how many of us voted for him? Remember Late Gani Fawehimi once contested the Presidency, how many people voted for him? Wole Soyinka has a registered political party, with patriotic and nation building ideologies, what is its membership strength? We will continue to get the kinds of leaders we deserve. We need to change our ideologies and a lot of re-orientation is required on the part of the citizenry before we can get it right in this country.

deesquarediddy:

I refer to Nigerians who are not politically biased as people who will under no circumstances allow their political affiliations/interests becloud their judgments.

Also, I did not at any time make that statement that we can’t find a better candidate among our politicians. I only talked about the current people in power (PDP) and the potential people who might serve as alternative (APC, the opposition members). In all of them you will find common qualities… greediness, corruption, cluelessness regarding how governance should be delivered except for few. These politicians (PDP and APC, the two giants as case study) lack internal democracy if you study their party structure and activities, so how do we even expect them to perform.

So, are you saying there are no politicians outside this category (the ones we don’t see as big fish, the ones we see as mere technocrats/professionals) or politicians from parties we see as unpopular who will outperform these thieves? We tend to look at only candidates from PDP/APC/LP as credible when we talk about whom will lead this country. Are there not other politicians? We forgot that majority of members from these political parties are all the same people in power since 1999. (Changing from one party to another)

Nigerians, funny people…we crave for change, yet we see the political jobbers as the real politicians, we support them and vote them into power and cry for 4 years thereafter. When people like utomi contested for president, how many of us voted for him? Remember Late Gani Fawehimi once contested the Presidency, how many people voted for him? Wole Soyinka has a registered political party, with patriotic and nation building ideologies, what is its membership strength? We will continue to get the kinds of leaders we deserve. We need to change our ideologies and a lot of re-orientation is required on the part of the citizenry before we can get it right in this country.

ogbronx: Your last paragraph revealed your personality as simple, intelligent, realistic and objective . These are the traits lacking in many of Nigerians making the country stagnant.

Obiagelli:
now you see the APC and the pdp is not the problem but education. These parties will continue to give us what we ask for either by our silence or inaction.

Education is what people like me have been doing at the risk of being called paid agent by folks who will do not but point fingers and in the end vote these bad eggs or not vote at all.
There are those we can work with in these parties to achieve our goal (better leadership), let us demand that they give us those people or we punish them at the polls.

2015 is my last shot at Nigeria, if we don't get it right, i am gone before i end up in a refugee camp. The earlier we realized that I lives depends on it the better. Ask the victims of today's terrorism.