Cmanforall:

I don't hv your time.... Go and work on your brains.... Mentally deranged...

people versed in psychology and mental health would have accessed a lot from your write ups. I need not say much but I'm glad your diseased pscyhe couldn't counter my stance hence the shallow input. Now, run along. Cheap smello

Cmanforall:

Then read this



He said 'If Pharmacology was Pharmacy, then pigs would fly'

Pharmacology is a 4-5yr course in nigerian universities. His statement reflects that hatred Pharmacists have for the pharmacologist, especially if they should be working together in any establishment.
Pharmacologists here can attest to that.....
No be to just fight Doctors, let them resolve their internal wickedness....

he said that inorder to tell u that its a section of pharmacy and nt pharmacy itself.
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Even the Pharmacologist knws that. We love the Pharmacologist and they knw it. Besides, this Pharmacologist/pharmacist smth came as a result of that NMAite who is a Neuro-pharmacologist.

damola14: Absolutely nothing would have happened , if pharmacist goes on strike in Nigeria after all they only sell drugs and dispense drugs which emeka does perfectly .

by Emeka u mean quack?
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Or dnt u knw its against the law for a non-pharma to open a retail pharm?

drered: Going by your logic a pharmacist being appointed as CMD should be a non issue and a pharmacist can also be president of NMA since the pharmacists and doctor's knowledge is not mutually in exclusive yeah?

Haba, did that even make sense tO YOU?

igboboy3: [/color]I see what @drered is trying to do but while your extrapolation is a tad unbalanced, I appreciate the effort.
A doctor can't head PSN and a pharmacist can't head the NMA or be a CMD. Why? The interpretation of extant laws governing these institutions require different qualifications. The term 'medically qualified' can only be fulfilled by doctors.
If you want to make NAFDAC the exclusive preserve of pharmacists, change the qualification from 'good knowledge of pharmacy' to 'B.Pharm'.
N:B - Don't overestimate the 'shared knowledge' between a doctor and a pharmacist o!
Cheers[color=#000099]

must u b spoonfed? What is meant by good knowledge of pharmacy? Note: it dint say good knowledge of pharmacology.
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By the way dint u c good knowledge of food there?

PSN's inactivity saddens me beyond words. All they do is collect dues and organise seminars and luncheons. While folding their hands as pharmacists are continually boxed, ad sidelined. The new law about a 5year post graduation lapse before a pharmacst is able to register a premise is the latest injustice that PSN should have stood agfainst. Long live pharmacy tho

Samgreguc:
he said that inorder to tell u that its a section of pharmacy and nt pharmacy itself.
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Even the Pharmacologist knws that. We love the Pharmacologist and they knw it. Besides, this Pharmacologist/pharmacist smth came as a result of that NMAite who is a Neuro-pharmacologist.

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Nice contribution...

thegeneral84:
Though I don't want to sound callous but the raw truth is " Pharmacists (or any other Allied Medical Profession) going on strike alone would have little or no impact", the main reason for their coming together to form JOHESU in the hope that their impact would be felt then. Your reason for staying together is the "collective hatred" for Doctors. There is no way a common hatred can successfully keep two or more persons together. You can't decide to marry a girl only because you both hate say "saloon cars". Sadly, That is what JOHESU is.

You are wrong and you know it. Can you do their jobs, how well have you diagnosed your patients that you want to do the works of Pharmacists, Nurses, Lab Scientists, etc. Selfishness of the doctors is the reason why graduates of anatomy, physiotherapy, physiology, Radiography etc don't find jobs in the health sector in Nigeria, making the doctors half-baked jack of all trades.

If all other health professionals are complaining about you, I think the physicians should check themselves, all of them cannot hate you if you do what is right and act professionally.

Afrocatalyst: Pharmacists are nt trained to head hospitals like doctors. Why beating around the bush na?

Is the training about managing the hospital or the patient? Are you saying only the doctors were trained to manage the patient, the hospital, become minister of health, commissioner for health, surgeon general and consultant?. lol

nobilis:

The DG of NAFDAC, Dr Paul Orhii is a pharmacologist. The former DG of NAFDAC, Late Prof Dora Akunyili was also a pharmacologist and a toxicologist.

So what exactly is your headache?

I don't have any problem with Dr Orhii if he has the knowledge and is not biased in fighting the course of good and quality drug management in Nigeria. He is trying, building on the foundation layed by Dora WHO WAS A PASSIONATE FIGHTER AGAINST FAKE DRUGS Pharmacology is just a department in pharmacy. Akunyili studied pharmacy and later specialised in pharmacology

thepathologist:

can u allow pharmacy technicians with more than 20yr experience to head pharmacy dept? can u allow pharmaceutical physcians to head pharm. industries? pharmacists should lead industries not dragging hospital leadership with doctors. pharmacy is a nice profession.i do not understand while you join hands with drivers and co to fight doctors.

I respect you for being sincere that pharmacy is a nice profession. But I also want to let you know that others like nursing, Med lab science, etc are also noble professionals, respect is reciprocal.

Pharmacists have roles in drugs production, its control and distribution, administration, therapy, etc until the end user (patient) is TOTALLY CURED of the sickness and stops using the drug substance with no any adverse drug reaction. Pharmacists are not fighting to take over the hospitals but rather to be allowed to practise what they studied and live within the oath they swore to, use their knowledge of drugs to benefit mankind (their patients) as stipulated by the law. So their responsibility is anywhere drugs are used and not limited to the industry, beside industrial pharmacy is just a branch of pharmacy.

sigolisis:

I respect you for being sincere that pharmacy is a nice profession. But I also want to let you know that others like nursing, Med lab science, etc are also noble professionals, respect is reciprocal.

Pharmacists have roles in drugs production, its control and distribution, administration, therapy, etc until the end user (patient) is TOTALLY CURED of the sickness and stops using the drug substance with no any adverse drug reaction. Pharmacists are not fighting to take over the hospitals but rather to be allowed to practise what they studied and live within the oath they swore to, use their knowledge of drugs to benefit mankind (their patients) as stipulated by the law. So their responsibility is anywhere drugs are used and not limited to the industry, beside industrial pharmacy is just a branch of pharmacy.

do they want to know? Not at all, they know it all and their knowledge is supreme. Nice points.

drered: I'd rather blame PCN than blame you.. If things were the way it should be. Any strike effected by pharmacists would be comprehensive.. Lock down in hospital pharmacies likewise community and industry. Then we'd see how much impact would be felt.. Lol. Common hatred? This is just a comeback from repression that has gone on for so many years. The tides have changed..

The community Pharmacists and industrial Pharmacists (private establishments) have no problem with the govt and thus no reason to go on strike. If you think shutting down both public and private pharmacy operations would make your strike more comprehensive; how "comprehensive" do you think NMA strike would be if the Doctors shut down private hospitals in addition to withdrawing services from govt hospitals? It would be a national disaster. So leave the private sector out of government issues.

To those crying foul that a med doctor is heading NAFDAC. I hope you know that FDA, the US equivalent is also headed by a med doctor http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CommissionersPage/default.htm. So for those crying for "international practice", there you have it

I hope you will also allow that same international best practices to travail by making the post of Hospital CEO open to other seasoned health profesionals with administrative qualifications

So much abt us and less abt the patient we are called to care for...may God help us all

Samgreguc:
and if they do what's bad?
If u want to know if it has been done anywhere use the google.
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Simple put, our NMA isn't doing well. Imagine what could have happened if the Pharmacist went on strike.

if d pharmacist r sure of themselves, y joining johesu.DAT means u guys don't HV a strong hold. D reason to join oda professionals to form johesu.before I can belv all this trash u guys are saying, dissociate yaself from johesu.#gbam

Johesu baba.association of ppl feeling inferiority complex.y must a pharmacist join radiographers, lab tech,nurse before una voice can be heard.

adeoladrg: Smh

Before you write on any issue I'd advice that you
make proper research into the subject matter. One
thing you must realise is that the only constant
thing in life is change and when. In today's
medical world due to the ever growing health
challenges and nEed for better care other
professionals in the health sector don't just stop at
getting first degrees, they are specializing in
different areas in their chosen fields to better eqyip
them do peform their fxn better. All this is geared
towards better patients care. Unfortunately
Nigerian Drs see it as a threat to them because
they feel if others are granted consultancy rights
they will come to their level. There is no point
disputing the fact that Drs are leaders in the health
care team. The mark of a true leader is to do your
job and ensure that ur team mates also do theirs.
They cannot do so if they are nor trained to.
Nigerian Drs should come down from their
egocentric world and emulate what other countries
are doing then we would be the better for it. I'll
ask why is it that they are always quick to go on
strike with any liTtle misunderstanding? Why can't
they try every other possible means b4 resrting to
strike?

what JOHESU is
demanding for Is not out of place but it is
happening all over the world. As far as I'm
concerned this matter is not worth the lives that
have been lost and are still being lost everyday due
to this strike.

ozo13: if d pharmacist r sure of themselves, y joining johesu.DAT means u guys don't HV a strong hold. D reason to join oda professionals to form johesu.before I can belv all this trash u guys are saying, dissociate yaself from johesu.#gbam

well, I will like to let u knw dat Pharmacist dont only work in hospitals(where JOHESU exist) and the hospital Pharmacist is among JOHESU because, they feel they had a common goal as at the time the union was formed.
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BTW, I wasn't talking of hospital Pharmacist going on strike but, rather Industrial.

thegeneral84:

Though I don't want to sound callous but the raw truth is " Pharmacists (or any other Allied Medical Profession) going on strike alone would have little or no impact", the main reason for their coming together to form JOHESU in the hope that their impact would be felt then. Your reason for staying together is the "collective hatred" for Doctors. There is no way a common hatred can successfully keep two or more persons together. You can't decide to marry a girl only because you both hate say "saloon cars". Sadly, That is what JOHESU is.

guy you don mess up, Pharmacist have APHA but not yet approved because FG is afraid if Pharmacist pulled out trouble will loot, people will die in millions. just one formulation mistake

armadeo:



Lil will the private pharmacies close down too? Patients already patronize pharmacies outside the hospital so if you try am.....


































Nobody will notice.

You be student Sha. You don't know most medications used in in patient need compunding.

its a pity, may his soul RIP.
am pretty worried abt this JOHESU.
They should rethink and do the needful.
A nurse (strong supporter of JOHESU) came to my clinic 2nights ago shouting help help help ....doctor doctor ...my brother is dying, help help... I looked at time, it was 2am, I did the needful and the brother got healed .
earlier before now,
this same nurse said she will not work for any private hospital because we cannot pay what govt pays. she so much detest Doctors to the extent that all my colleagues avoids her.
but when the appointed time came she trace my clinic with her "k-leg ".

A BNSC nurse is different hope you know most nurses are RN

nurain150:


You be student Sha. You don't know most medications used in in patient need compunding.

Lol. Compounding!!!!!


Better do and graduate.

armadeo:



Lol. Compounding!!!!!


Better do and graduate.

So you know, let them withdraw their services and see how your OR orders would be made.