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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by benghaziii: 10:01am On Jul 18, 2014
Nigerians are selfish..am nt a doc ooo..bt how would u feel if in a company,a person wif school cert is allowed to head an organization filled wif peepz wif masters. Degree.
How well will u be able to trust his decision making n co...
Johesu...is just fighting a war that is already lost.
Am even disappointed to see pharmacist nurses n physiotherapists amongst dem...total hatred... Nothing else...consultant fire...

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Generalkorex(m): 10:05am On Jul 18, 2014
This is Nigeria
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adeoladrg(m): 10:09am On Jul 18, 2014
Victomolola: Is that mean I'm related to governor or vc? Oau cut off mark, 2011/2012: mbbs= 295; pharm or joe hates you=245 2012/2013: mbbs = 262; pharm or joe hates you 235 2013/2014 mbbs 270.5; pharm or joe hates you 250.5 pre degree 2013/2014 mbbs =80.7; pharm or joe hates you=70.5!!! Who is much brilliant and excellent, tell me?

Don't act like a deluded fellow, we know the governors and VCs handpick MBBS students, don't argue.. It's naija, we all know!!!

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Victomolola: 10:10am On Jul 18, 2014
FrancisTony:


You sound like an illiterate. Most doctors got admitted through runse.

P.S- I am pretty sure that school like OAU pharmacy cutoff is higher than 30 Universities that offer Medicine.
But, in oau that you used as an example; can you please list the cut-off mark of pharmacy and mbbs from 2009/2010 to 2013/2014 both pre degree and jamb so that we will know who is more brilliant.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by biomedixexcel(m): 10:10am On Jul 18, 2014
The ducks are just Mr knowitall
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by YoungDaNaval(m): 10:13am On Jul 18, 2014
ARE YOU ASKING ME TO DEBATE OR SUGGEST?? I STILL DON'T GET YA POINT MR OP!!
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 10:23am On Jul 18, 2014
Victomolola: But, in oau that you used as an example; can you please list the cut-off mark of pharmacy and mbbs from 2009/2010 to 2013/2014 both pre degree and jamb so that we will know who is more brilliant.
unilag, sorry, i couldnt separate other faculties

Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by winiwini: 10:25am On Jul 18, 2014
NO.... they were able to con them easily...unlike NMA.... Give them what they deserve.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by DollyParton1(f): 10:29am On Jul 18, 2014
kenonze:

its a pity, may his soul RIP.
am pretty worried abt this JOHESU.
They should rethink and do the needful.
A nurse (strong supporter of JOHESU) came to my clinic 2nights ago shouting help help help ....doctor doctor ...my brother is dying, help help... I looked at time, it was 2am, I did the needful and the brother got healed .
earlier before now,
this same nurse said she will not work for any private hospital because we cannot pay what govt pays. she so much detest Doctors to the extent that all my colleagues avoids her.
but when the appointed time came she trace my clinic with her "k-leg ".

I thought they know and learnt same things that doctors did in school.
Why couldn't she treat her brother.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by McStoic(m): 10:30am On Jul 18, 2014
benghaziii: Nigerians are selfish..am nt a doc ooo..bt how would u feel if in a company,a person wif school cert is allowed to head an organization filled wif peepz wif masters. Degree.
How well will u be able to trust his decision making n co...
Johesu...is just fighting a war that is already lost.
Am even disappointed to see pharmacist nurses n physiotherapists amongst dem...total hatred... Nothing else...consultant fire...
Your saving grace is owning up to your ignorance. So you think other paramedicals heading organizations is the main issue here? For your information, doctors want to limit other professionals from being relevant in their own field because they feel others do not deserve it. We all know that in hospitals, doctors are the primary entities, but they should quit making it seem like others are not relevant. Live and let live should be the watchword please.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 10:31am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:

& you're really pained. wink

Such hate won't get you anywhere dude. If you had channeled this energy you're using to hate on doctors into reading your books & passing jamb, who knows?

Maybe you'd have gotten into med school wink



But I doubt sha undecided

Your case is obviously congenital
. So do we all need to be a doctor?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by obysta: 10:34am On Jul 18, 2014
I'd rather blame PCN than blame you.. If things were the way it should be. Any strike effected by pharmacists would be comprehensive.. Lock down in hospital pharmacies likewise community and industry. Then we'd see how much impact would be felt.. Lol. Common hatred? This is just a comeback from repression that has gone on for so many years. The tides have changed..[/quote]. Why are you talking about locking up pharmacies wen PSN goes on strike, did u carry any pharmacy on ur head wen u were employed by the hospital, now dat NMA is on strike did dey lock the consulting rooms?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Jaggiey: 10:39am On Jul 18, 2014
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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by DollyParton1(f): 10:40am On Jul 18, 2014
You know NMA is relevant when like 20 trade unions/professional bodies are ganging up on them.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nobilis: 10:45am On Jul 18, 2014
drered: Its exhausting having to explain over and over again. Here's a comment on another thread I made trying to explain the why's..

Okay. I love your objective stance.
The thing is, those duties you've mentioned in that post, pharmacists do them now. Other health professionals are also doing their jobs. They don't need to be "consultants" in order to do them.

Then another thing I feel u don't understand is that being a specialist is different from being an honorary consultant. Yes; for doctors you must be a specialist before being appointed an honorary consultant but they are not the same thing.

Just like NMA has said, the word "consultant" in a hospital setting describes a particular relationship. That between a patient and his doctor. That is why NMA said there will confusion in the sector when there are many "consultants" around.

Nobody is saying other health professionals shouldn't specialise in their various fields. I, for one, I know that there are many branches in pharmacy, nursing, medical laboratory science and physiotherapy. Nobody is saying they shouldn't become specialists in their specialties. That is one thing you should understand. They are just muddling everything up and turning issues upside down just to favour their goal.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 10:46am On Jul 18, 2014
retepmurt: Nothing,i mean absolutely nothing wil happen.As a matter of fact,pharmacists only dispense in our govt hospitals in Nigeria.Drugs are being manufactured by the private pharmaceutical companies.
what do u tink is the role of NAFDAC?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 10:56am On Jul 18, 2014
thegeneral84:
Though I don't want to sound callous but the raw truth is " Pharmacists (or any other Allied Medical Profession) going on strike alone would have little or no impact", the main reason for their coming together to form JOHESU in the hope that their impact would be felt then. Your reason for staying together is the "collective hatred" for Doctors. There is no way a common hatred can successfully keep two or more persons together. You can't decide to marry a girl only because you both hate say "saloon cars". Sadly, That is what JOHESU is.
we aint talking about the hospital here but, NAFDAC.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Victomolola: 11:06am On Jul 18, 2014
SAPEDRO:
unilag, sorry, i couldnt separate other faculties
then, which course has the highest cut-off mark?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by elobyobi: 11:08am On Jul 18, 2014
Samgreguc:
Pharmacology isn't Pharmacy. Law doesn't give him good knowledge of Pharmacy.
.
Pharmacology is no where near Pharmacy.

S0 una get super!0r!ty c0mplex t00, and cla!m d0ct0rs r the 0ny arr0gant 0nes....

Humans and the!r self r!ghte0usness sef

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:11am On Jul 18, 2014
Victomolola: But, in oau that you used as an example; can you please list the cut-off mark of pharmacy and mbbs from 2009/2010 to 2013/2014 both pre degree and jamb so that we will know who is more brilliant.


You don't get my point. I am not saying that OAU mbbs cutoff ain't higher that Pharmacy own.

I am pretty sure that the dude ain't an OAU student/graduate.
But, my point is "OAU pharmacy cutoff is higher than some school's Mbbs cuttoff".

Btw, some Mbbs student entered through runse i.e Vc list and so many more.

Not all pharmacy student are Medical doctor wannabee i.e Not all wanted to study Medicine at first.

Atleast, highest in UI p.jamb for Pharmacy was 78 while Medicine(83) and Pharmacy cutoff was 60 while Mbbs was 70. She even beat Medicine cutoff handsdown.

Some Pharmacy student never liked Medicine.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:15am On Jul 18, 2014
thepathologist:

can u allow pharmacy technicians with more than 20yr experience to head pharmacy dept? can u allow pharmaceutical physcians to head pharm. industries? pharmacists should lead industries not dragging hospital leadership with doctors. pharmacy is a nice profession.i do not understand while you join hands with drivers and co to fight doctors.
if the law permits it and if the pharm tech has the right qualification, why not? Its about law, qualifications and competence.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Victomolola: 11:17am On Jul 18, 2014
FrancisTony:


You don't get my point. I am not saying that OAU mbbs cutoff ain't higher that Pharmacy own.

I am pretty sure that the dude ain't an OAU student/graduate.
But, my point is "OAU pharmacy cutoff is higher than some school's Mbbs cuttoff".

Btw, some Mbbs student entered through runse i.e Vc list and so many more.

Not all pharmacy student are Medical doctor wannabee i.e Not all wanted to study Medicine at first.

Atleast, highest in UI p.jamb for Pharmacy was 78 while Medicine(83) and Pharmacy cutoff was 60 while Mbbs was 70. She even beat Medicine cutoff handsdown.

Some Pharmacy student never liked Medicine.
what i'm saying is that, averagely, mbbs has the best students in any school in nigeria!!! Do you agree or we should continue our argument?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by armadeo(m): 11:20am On Jul 18, 2014
adeoladrg:

Don't act like a deluded fellow, we know the governors and VCs handpick MBBS students, don't argue.. It's naija, we all know!!!



What will I not read in nairaland. You all know what?

As I said previously on another thread there was a time when the vc in my school packed many students into medicine the first hurdle was basic sciences 100L that cut the class into two.

The moral of the story its not who starts the race but who gets to the finish line.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:21am On Jul 18, 2014
Victomolola: what i'm saying is that, averagely, mbbs has the best students in any school in nigeria!!! Do you agree or we should continue our argument?

I agree when it comes to getting admission.

But when IN, I disagree because both course is entirely different thing.

Pharmacy deals with lotta Chemistry while Mbbs is biology of the body etcetra.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:21am On Jul 18, 2014
CircleOfWilis: I have a feeling that man knows pharmacy beta than most of u..
I have studied your post on this site, and each time , I wonder how u passed through medical school. Ur are not refined.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by IamChiboi(m): 11:22am On Jul 18, 2014
If you must know, she has a degree in pharmacy. The others are post graduate degrees. Okay?
nobilis:

The DG of NAFDAC, Dr Paul Orhii is a pharmacologist. The former DG of NAFDAC, Late Prof Dora Akunyili was also a pharmacologist and a toxicologist.

So what exactly is your headache?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by ehvez(m): 11:26am On Jul 18, 2014
They aint in same shoes comparing docs to pharmacist common
Anyways click on my signature to make cool cash
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by ojoadeola: 11:30am On Jul 18, 2014
nobilis:

The DG of NAFDAC, Dr Paul Orhii is a pharmacologist. The former DG of NAFDAC, Late Prof Dora Akunyili was also a pharmacologist and a toxicologist.

So what exactly is your headache?


Late Akunyili was a Pharmacist
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nobilis: 11:32am On Jul 18, 2014
IamChiboi: If you must know, she has a degree in pharmacy. The others are post graduate degrees. Okay?

Has anyone prevented you or other pharmacists from getting a postgraduate medical degree so that you can head hospitals? NMA is not preventing that. I'm very sure.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 18, 2014
Victomolola: Is that mean I'm related to governor or vc? Oau cut off mark, 2011/2012: mbbs= 295; pharm or joe hates you=245 2012/2013: mbbs = 262; pharm or joe hates you 235 2013/2014 mbbs 270.5; pharm or joe hates you 250.5 pre degree 2013/2014 mbbs =80.7; pharm or joe hates you=70.5!!! Who is much brilliant and excellent, tell me?
you are neither brilliant nor excellent. Why? Cos If you are, ur dumbb brain will reason dat no two courses can have the same cut off points given that the NUMBER of APPLICANTS and REQUIRED STUDENTS DIFFERS. In OAU, during my set, about 11,000 students chosed medicine in JAMB compare dat to about 2000 of pharmacy. Also 100 was admitted from all angles (pd,JAMB, man knw man etc) for medicine while close to 140 for pharmacy. I have given u enough clues for the quantitative reasoning and analysis. Get your arsse down and think. Ooooh, what about those withdrawn mid way into medical school? Even after acing JAMB? Guess JAMB score isn't a yardstick afterall. You lots are dumbbb. The earlier u admit, the better.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by armadeo(m): 11:37am On Jul 18, 2014
nouveaux: if the law permits it and if the pharm tech has the right qualification, why not? Its about law, qualifications and competence.




Dia is God oh.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 11:38am On Jul 18, 2014
benghaziii: Nigerians are selfish..am nt a doc ooo..bt how would u feel if in a company,a person wif school cert is allowed to head an organization filled wif peepz wif masters. Degree.
How well will u be able to trust his decision making n co...
Johesu...is just fighting a war that is already lost.
Am even disappointed to see pharmacist nurses n physiotherapists amongst dem...total hatred... Nothing else...consultant fire...
your opinion doesn't matter. Do well to pocket your dissapointment. gOod thing you aren't a 'doctor'.

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