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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nofij(m): 8:50am On Jul 18, 2014
Pharmacists are nobles. They dont act like touts('doctors').
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 8:51am On Jul 18, 2014
nobilis:

The DG of NAFDAC, Dr Paul Orhii is a pharmacologist. The former DG of NAFDAC, Late Prof Dora Akunyili was also a pharmacologist and a toxicologist.

So what exactly is your headache?
. You forgot to add that she was a PHARMACIST and consultant pharmacologist?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 8:51am On Jul 18, 2014
adeoladrg: Smh

So doctors were trained to acquire all admin positions abi? Mumu



why the hate? Your jamb score wasn't high enough? smiley

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 8:53am On Jul 18, 2014
nofij: Pharmacists are nobles. They dont act like touts('doctors').



grin grin you sound so pained. Did they give you fake jamb runs?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by searay(m): 8:54am On Jul 18, 2014
Greed! Greed!! Greed!!!
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 8:54am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:



why the hate? Your jamb score wasn't high enough? smiley
Lmao. Slowpoke. Ya'll einsteins haven't cooked something else apart from low jamb score?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adeoladrg(m): 8:56am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:



why the hate? Your jamb score wasn't high enough? smiley

Bring up urs nw! A pharmacist brought up his yday (285) and still studied pharmacy and u guys brought up something else.

My brother, bring up sm

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adeoladrg(m): 8:57am On Jul 18, 2014
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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adeoladrg(m): 8:58am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:



why the hate? Your jamb score wasn't high enough? smiley

Bring up urs nw! A pharmacist brought up his yday (285) and still studied pharmacy and u guys brought up something else.

My brother, bring up something else! We know it's the VCs and governors that admit MBBS students not jamb! grin grin

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nofij(m): 8:59am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:



grin grin you sound so pained. Did they give you fake jamb runs?
Pharmacists are nobles.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 9:00am On Jul 18, 2014
drered: Lmao. Slowpoke. Ya'll einsteins haven't cooked something else apart from low jamb score?

thanks for the compliment cheesy

But you still haven't answered my question
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adbokus(m): 9:01am On Jul 18, 2014
The essence of this strike is that the doctors want more, and if it happens that the fed.govt grants all dia 'more' request a precedence would hv already been set. Many atimes we get it all wrong, these demands are selfish and doesn't benefit the common man on all counts! Wht i think the NMA& oda striking bodies should be demanding 4 unfailingly is the eradication of corruption in all its forms in all sectors, entrenching the values of meritocracy and patriotism, implementing policies which completely benefit the common man, overhaul of our decadent education and health systems... This is the big picture which should be utmost in their pursuits as everyone gets to benefit, EVERYONE!

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 9:03am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:

thanks for the compliment cheesy

But you still haven't answered my question
You're really slow doc..

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nobilis: 9:03am On Jul 18, 2014
drered: . You forgot to add that she was a PHARMACIST and consultant pharmacologist?

You also forgot to add that Dr Paul Orhii is also a consultant pharmacologist.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 9:07am On Jul 18, 2014
nouveaux: NMA is a joke. A pharmacist is a business man, an adminatrator. The rigorous curriculum bestowed that on his. With administrative pharmacy and pharmacoeconomics, you can't go wrong with handing your managerial work to a pharmacist. If pharmacology is pharmacy, then pigs would fly. Guess a degree in pharmacy, law, public health, and management will allow the 'doctors' be at peace with a pharmacist being the Minister of Health or the CMD? Its okay, so far its on their side, but foul if otherwise. The heat is on!

can u allow pharmacy technicians with more than 20yr experience to head pharmacy dept? can u allow pharmaceutical physcians to head pharm. industries? pharmacists should lead industries not dragging hospital leadership with doctors. pharmacy is a nice profession.i do not understand while you join hands with drivers and co to fight doctors.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 9:12am On Jul 18, 2014
nobilis:

You also forgot to add that Dr Paul Orhii is also a consultant pharmacologist.

Pharmacology is not what is in contention here... Pharmacy is. The constitution states that a person with a broad knowledge of food and drugs should be appointed as the DG of NAFDAC. Naturally who is?. Pharmacology deals with drug action, interaction, indication and therapy. That's extensive enough? What about quality assurance and quality control a pharmacist is well versed in? Abi isn't that the whole idea behind the agency?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 9:16am On Jul 18, 2014
drered: You're really slow doc..

& you're really pained. wink

Such hate won't get you anywhere dude. If you had channeled this energy you're using to hate on doctors into reading your books & passing jamb, who knows?

Maybe you'd have gotten into med school wink



But I doubt sha undecided

Your case is obviously congenital

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nimen(m): 9:17am On Jul 18, 2014
matify:

That man is a Neuro- pharmacologist.

And was practicing law before his appointment as DG NAFDAC.

That man is a Neuro- pharmacologist.

And was practicing law before his appointment as DG NAFDAC.


That man is a Neuro- pharmacologist.

And was practicing law before his appointment as DG NAFDAC.

did you have to repeat your point to butress it?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by heykims(m): 9:18am On Jul 18, 2014
hybridtm: why so much hate for doctors,in dis country. we just lost a classmate in biochemistry dept, in UNIBEN ....wen we took him 2 UBTH the doctors were on strike and...sincerely the nurses were confused on wat 2 do.
if u can be like them..pls don,t hate dem
They re only trained in carrying out plans documented by doctors, it is amazing they re now challenging d docotrs from whom plans they acquire their clinical knowledge..

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 9:19am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:

& you're really pained. wink

Such hate won't get you anywhere dude. If you had channeled this energy you're using to hate on doctors into reading your books & passing jamb, who knows?

Maybe you'd have gotten into med school wink



But I doubt sha undecided

Your case is obviously congenital
Ok sis. Move along..
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by nobilis: 9:19am On Jul 18, 2014
drered: Pharmacology is not what is in contention here... Pharmacy is. The constitution states that a person with a broad knowledge of food and drugs should be appointed as the DG of NFDAC. Naturally who is?. Pharmacology deals with drug action, interaction, indication and therapy. That's extensive enough? What about quality assurance and quality control a pharmacist is well versed in? Abi isn't that the whole idea behind the agency?

Good. Pharmacy is different than pharmacology. We all agree.

But I now wonder what makes u feel that clinical pharmacy will make u better equipped to take better care of d patient than the doctor can.
Is clinical pharmacy the same thing as Medicine and Surgery?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by McStoic(m): 9:21am On Jul 18, 2014
angry undecided
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 9:23am On Jul 18, 2014
heykims:
They re only trained in carrying out plans documented by doctors, it is amazing they re now challenging d docotrs from whom plans they acquire their clinical knowledge..
Lol. Pharmacists go to school to learn how to follow your orders? Loooool.. So what orders do you give academic pharmacists, industrial pharmacists, compounding pharmacists, drug information pharmacists, infectious disease pharmacists, nuclear pharmacists, regulatory pharmacists and public health service pharmacists?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 18, 2014
decode55:



grin grin you sound so pained. Did they give you fake jamb runs?


You sound like an illiterate. Most doctors got admitted through runse.

P.S- I am pretty sure that school like OAU pharmacy cutoff is higher than 30 Universities that offer Medicine.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 9:30am On Jul 18, 2014
nobilis:

Good. Pharmacy is different than pharmacology. We all agree.

But I now wonder what makes u feel that clinical pharmacy will make u better equipped to take better care of d patient than the doctor can.
Is clinical pharmacy the same thing as Medicine and Surgery?
Its exhausting having to explain over and over again. Here's a comment on another thread I made trying to explain the why's..
drered: The idea is for all of you to work collectively in improving patient care and therapeutic outcome. Everyone will have the scope of their duties clearly stated to prevent encroaching. The pharmacist will advise you on drug therapy, measure drug serum concentrations, manage medication regimens in polypharmacy, give inputs to optimise use of medication, identify potential and adverse drug reactions, give suitable alternatives in contra indications. The pharmacist still ends up running this by you. Basically, you put heads together and at the end improved therapeutic outcome!. For those asking "why the need for consultant pharmacists?" Same reason you need specialists in different fields of medicine. Same reason there are nurse anaesthetist and nurse oncologists and a wide array of other specialist nurses or you think pharmacy is not diverse enough? People that say pharmacists can't be consultant and in essence mean pharmacists can't specialize are ignorant of how diverse pharmacy is.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by McStoic(m): 9:33am On Jul 18, 2014
thegeneral84:
Though I don't want to sound callous but the raw truth is " Pharmacists (or any other Allied Medical Profession) going on strike alone would have little or no impact", the main reason for their coming together to form JOHESU in the hope that their impact would be felt then. Your reason for staying together is the "collective hatred" for Doctors. There is no way a common hatred can successfully keep two or more persons together. You can't decide to marry a girl only because you both hate say "saloon cars". Sadly, That is what JOHESU is.
This comment of yours is shallow. Doctors as matter of fact disregard any other non allopathic body of the hospital, hence its only natural that we all join together to fight a common enemy. Your declaring as persona non grata, every other member of the hospital who is not a doctor has set the ball rolling in the direction you are seeing. I tire for una childish logic sha.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by OkikiOluwa1(m): 9:37am On Jul 18, 2014
Samgreguc: The DG of the NAFDAC isn't a Pharmacist whereas, the ACT establishing NAFDAC states that the DG must have a good knowledge of Pharmacy,drug and food.
Many profession in the health sector gives a good knowledge of drugs and some food but, only Pharmaceutical Science gives you a good knowledge of Pharmacy. This simply means that only a Pharmacist is certified to hold that office but, suprisingly the office is currently being held by a Physician(DR. Paul Orhii). He has good knowledge of drugs but, not of Pharmacy.

This alone is a disrespect to the Pharmacists but, did the Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria(PSN) embark on strike action for it? NO! They continued their good work in the industry because, they know what it will effect on our society.

Can that be obtainable from the Nigeria Medical Association(NMA)? A very good question.

NMA will rather "kill themselves than commit succide" if such happens to them, not even when the law states otherwise.
Its all political stuff...
The life of their patients are at stake now!
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by retepmurt(m): 9:48am On Jul 18, 2014
Samgreguc:
and if they do what's bad?
If u want to know if it has been done anywhere use the google.
.
Simple put, our NMA isn't doing well. Imagine what could have happened if the Pharmacist went on strike.
Nothing,i mean absolutely nothing wil happen.As a matter of fact,pharmacists only dispense in our govt hospitals in Nigeria.Drugs are being manufactured by the private pharmaceutical companies.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by cynthiapaul(f): 9:48am On Jul 18, 2014
@hybridtm, if u dont knw wot to say, u keep shut. I bet u dat d doctors wud v done nthn too if dey were on sit cos dey don't give nor take life. If they want, dey shud still kip der ass down @home watching cartoons cos 4 people like me, I don't kia one bit about dem. They disgust me.
In situations like dz, I look up to God n not man cos no man holds d key to my life since all dey care about is money.

I know say na shame still dey keep dem 4 house, looooooool. I pity una.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 9:52am On Jul 18, 2014
hybridtm: why so much hate for doctors,in dis country. we just lost a classmate in biochemistry dept, in UNIBEN ....wen we took him 2 UBTH the doctors were on strike and...sincerely the nurses were confused on wat 2 do.
if u can be like them..pls don,t hate dem

its a pity, may his soul RIP.
am pretty worried abt this JOHESU.
They should rethink and do the needful.
A nurse (strong supporter of JOHESU) came to my clinic 2nights ago shouting help help help ....doctor doctor ...my brother is dying, help help... I looked at time, it was 2am, I did the needful and the brother got healed .
earlier before now,
this same nurse said she will not work for any private hospital because we cannot pay what govt pays. she so much detest Doctors to the extent that all my colleagues avoids her.
but when the appointed time came she trace my clinic with her "k-leg ".

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 9:54am On Jul 18, 2014
lots of pained individuals on here cheesy cheesy

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Victomolola: 9:58am On Jul 18, 2014
adeoladrg:

Bring up urs nw! A pharmacist brought up his yday (285) and still studied pharmacy and u guys brought up something else.

My brother, bring up something else! We know it's the VCs and governors that admit MBBS students not jamb! grin grin
Is that mean I'm related to governor or vc? Oau cut off mark, 2011/2012: mbbs= 295; pharm or joe hates you=245 2012/2013: mbbs = 262; pharm or joe hates you 235 2013/2014 mbbs 270.5; pharm or joe hates you 250.5 pre degree 2013/2014 mbbs =80.7; pharm or joe hates you=70.5!!! Who is much brilliant and excellent, tell me?

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