Baldmarv:
Eh arab league go wake up? Them tell you say them dey sleep before? The last time them all fight ISREAL, ASK THEM HOW MARKET! Israel cannot be defeated...it is God Jehovah who gave them the land...

most stuupid post ever. So jehova gave them d land in 1947? If u think they can't b defeated, then ask how hizbollah dealt with them .

hamilton62:
You are a fool with no reasoning, other fools are better than you because you're a-blind-folded one.
Thinking from anus like you propalestine brothers... This is why all about you dudes is violet, once proven again
Prove your claim and I will teach you since you don't know history.
Israel is your impediment and will always be a more fortified one. Go burn in HELL!

Bastard, your generation shall witness what Gaza citizen are suffering in the hand of the oppressors. I believe that serves you right.

Baldmarv:
Eh arab league go wake up? Them tell you say them dey sleep before? The last time them all fight ISREAL, ASK THEM HOW MARKET! Israel cannot be defeated...it is God Jehovah who gave them the land...

d Israel to whom God gave d land is not the same nation dat we call Israel today. God gave the land to a people united to him by a solemn covenant ( Ex. 19-20 ). The present state of Israel is a state that does not recognize the God of the Bible as its supreme Lord. These unbelieving Jews hav been broken off frm dis covenant for in their unbelief they regard xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a false prophet who came to turn humanity away frm God. Rather as a xtian Pray 4 humanity & condemn d genocide perpetrated by a nation whose guiding ideology is racism, zionism & apartheid. d Palestinian struggle is not a TERRORIST/MUSLIM/ RELIGIOUS issue. It is about an illegal LAND GRAB by zionists & a resiistance against dis illegality by d indigenous people of palestine.

datribune:


d Israel to whom God gave d land is not the same nation dat we call Israel today. God gave the land to a people united to him by a solemn covenant ( Ex. 19-20 ). The present state of Israel is a state that does not recognize the God of the Bible as its supreme Lord. These unbelieving Jews hav been broken off frm dis covenant for in their unbelief they regard xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a false prophet who came to turn humanity away frm God. Rather as a xtian Pray 4 humanity & condemn d genocide perpetrated by a nation whose guiding ideology is racism, zionism & apartheid. d Palestinian struggle is not a TERRORIST/MUSLIM/ RELIGIOUS issue. It is about an illegal LAND GRAB by zionists & a resiistance against dis illegality by d indigenous people of palestine.

It's not Terrorism right? Then where did the present Israelis come from originally? If you want independence you go to UN and follow a peaceful procedure, but as long as hamas chooses to fire rockets into Israel as the only way to sort out their problem, they should endure the sacrifices of the path they have chosen. Or do you want Israel to pack up and disappear from the Earth? Besides Judaism has been in existence before Christ came who the present Christian faith originated from, so if you want to use that as a basis to claim that God is no longer with them, i take that as your personal summation not fact. If every indigenous tribe should start claiming their lands, then the American indians should start some kind of rocket launches into mainland USA from the resettlement areas they occupy.

caseless: most stuupid post ever. So jehova gave them d land in 1947? If u think they can't b defeated, then ask how hizbollah dealt with them .

Stupid or not Israel had been in existence long before 1947, and if you are familiar with the Bible you will know that 1947 is not the only time they had left and come back to resettle.

caseless: most stuupid post ever. So jehova gave them d land in 1947? If u think they can't b defeated, then ask how hizbollah dealt with them .

read this than you will understand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

Baldmarv:
It's not Terrorism right? Then where did the present Israelis come from originally? If you want independence you go to UN and follow a peaceful procedure, but as long as hamas chooses to fire rockets into Israel as the only way to sort out their problem, they should endure the sacrifices of the path they have chosen. Or do you want Israel to pack up and disappear from the Earth? Besides Judaism has been in existence before Christ came who the present Christian faith originated from, so if you want to use that as a basis to claim that God is no longer with them, i take that as your personal summation not fact. If every indigenous tribe should start claiming their lands, then the American indians should start some kind of rocket launches into mainland USA from the resettlement areas they occupy.

d world thru d UN brokered peace between d PLO & Israel & agreed on a 2 state solution - Israel & Palestine. 4 d past 47yrs Israel continues to violate un resolutions meant to bring about peace & has continually escaped sanctions because of d USA veto. It is painful watching d kind of indignities suffered by moderates like Mahmud Abass in their search 4 peace wit an insincere partner like zionist Israel. Israel continues to build settlements non-stop. Israeli propaganda would like us to believe their lies of a commitment to a 2 state solution while d truth is dat they don't want it. It is not rocket science to understand dat wit d continued building of settlements on d land of d future state of Palestine, there can never be a state of Palestine, no 2 state solution & by extension no peace. dis is d greatest impediment to peace. Even Israel's greatest ally d USA is frustrated by Israeli intransigence - Obama : Israeli settlement building not constructive to peace . The 2 state solution has a 75% acceptance among d Palestinians. Thru negotiations just like wit d ANC & IRA which were also labelled as terrorist organizations. Hamas will hav no option but 2 accept dis highly popular solution of 2 state solution or bcom irrelevant. d right of d Palestinians is an inalienable right

datribune:

d world thru d UN brokered peace between d PLO & Israel & agreed on a 2 state solution - Israel & Palestine. 4 d past 47yrs Israel continues to violate un resolutions meant to bring about peace & has continually escaped sanctions because of d USA veto. It is painful watching d kind of indignities suffered by moderates like Mahmud Abass in their search 4 peace wit an insincere partner like zionist Israel. Israel continues to build settlements non-stop. Israeli propaganda would like us to believe their lies of a commitment to a 2 state solution while d truth is dat they don't want it. It is not rocket science to understand dat wit d continued building of settlements on d land of d future state of Palestine, there can never be a state of Palestine, no 2 state solution & by extension no peace. dis is d greatest impediment to peace. Even Israel's greatest ally d USA is frustrated by Israeli intransigence - Obama : Israeli settlement building not constructive to peace . The 2 state solution has a 75% acceptance among d Palestinians. Thru negotiations just like wit d ANC & IRA which were also labelled as terrorist organizations. Hamas will hav no option but 2 accept dis highly popular solution of 2 state solution or bcom irrelevant. d right of d Palestinians is an inalienable right

does your time frame also include 1967 and 1973 when arab nations unilaterally decided to destroy Israel... all the while escaping those amorphous "UN resolutions"? I mean Syria has gassed thousands of innocent citizens in the last 1 year and yet have never had a UN resolution against them. Are you talking about UN resolutions where the likes of Saddam Hussein got to vote? What a joke.

heywhytech1:
Bastard, your generation shall witness what Gaza citizen are suffering in the hand of the oppressors. I believe that serves you right.

You won't even have a generation because the violet you embrace mine will help send yours to grave, idiot of universal order.

datribune:


d Israel to whom God gave d land is not the same nation dat we call Israel today. God gave the land to a people united to him by a solemn covenant ( Ex. 19-20 ). The present state of Israel is a state that does not recognize the God of the Bible as its supreme Lord. These unbelieving Jews hav been broken off frm dis covenant for in their unbelief they regard xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a false prophet who came to turn humanity away frm God. Rather as a xtian Pray 4 humanity & condemn d genocide perpetrated by a nation whose guiding ideology is racism, zionism & apartheid. d Palestinian struggle is not a TERRORIST/MUSLIM/ RELIGIOUS issue. It is about an illegal LAND GRAB by zionists & a resiistance against dis illegality by d indigenous people of palestine.

They are bro, if you be blessed, your actions don't matter as we humans see it, remember, God vow in His name that instead His world won't come to pass thw heaven and earth will wipe off.
Zerubabel was asked by a king to curse the israelites but God dealt with them Himself but not let His enemies do so.
Pls who are those Israelites since it's not this and what was the condition of their fortifying blessings?

hamilton62:
They are bro, if you be blessed, your actions don't matter as we humans see it, remember, God vow in His name that instead His world won't come to pass thw heaven and earth will wipe off.
Zerubabel was asked by a king to curse the israelites but God dealt with them Himself but not let His enemies do so.
Pls who are those Is raelites since it's not this and what was the condition of their fortifying blessings?

The nation in a covenant wit God today is not d present day state of Israel but “the Israel of God” ( Gal. 6:16 ), d faithful believers. God’s chosen people today is d Christian church who acknowledge Jesus d Messiah as Lord & Savior & not a nation of judaists who see xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a fake prohet who came to turn people away frm God.. Some branches—unbelieving Jews —have been broken off whiles others— believing Gentiles— hav been grafted in ( Rom. 11:1-24 ).
Does d church, then, hold d title to Palestine? Only insofar as they hold title to the whole earth. d church is an international body, a people without borders. Jesus sends them throughout d earth to take d gospel everywhere for he intends to make d whole world his special dwelling.
d church has no interest in making a political claim to the Holy Land, contrary to d theology underlying Judaism and radical Islam, d xtian will conquer d land not thru d sword of warfare but thru d sword of d spirit - d word of God which Jesus uses to conquer & bring people closer to him.
d political issue must however be settled thru negotiations, a 2 state solution. Xtians ar caught in d middle of d judaists & d Muslims & must not blindly side one against d other in d fallacy dat God gave Palestine to d present nation of Israel, a racist, apartheid, zionist nation who reject him & hav no covenant wit him.

datribune:


The nation in a covenant wit God today is not d present day state of Israel but “the Israel of God” ( Gal. 6:16 ), d faithful believers. God’s chosen people today is d Christian church who acknowledge Jesus d Messiah as Lord & Savior & not a nation of judaists who see xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a fake prohet who came to turn people away frm God.. Some branches—unbelieving Jews —have been broken off whiles others— believing Gentiles— hav been grafted in ( Rom. 11:1-24 ).
Does d church, then, hold d title to Palestine? Only insofar as they hold title to the whole earth. d church is an international body, a people without borders. Jesus sends them throughout d earth to take d gospel everywhere for he intends to make d whole world his special dwelling.
d church has no interest in making a political claim to the Holy Land, contrary to d theology underlying Judaism and radical Islam, d xtian will conquer d land not thru d sword of warfare but thru d sword of d spirit - d word of God which Jesus uses to conquer & bring people closer to him.
d political issue must however be settled thru negotiations, a 2 state solution. Xtians ar caught in d middle of d judaists & d Muslims & must not side one against d other in d fallacy dat God gave Palestine to d present nation of Israel, a racist, apartheid, zionist nation who reject him & hav no covenant wit him.

oga, i don't understand your arguments again...i agree that today's Israel in the sight of God are the Christians all over the world. That said, God gave Isreal by war and planted them in this land, right? So the multiplied and became great and because of history of enmity with various surrounding enemies they took control of Gaza to protect themselves because they prefer to do that than to allow them gather weapons that the INTEND to use against Israel...for me its a no brainer, if the enemy is controlled he can not hurt you, i bet you would be happy if you are from the northeast Nigeria and the military took total control of supplies entering sambisa...
You advocate negotiations, and apparently Israel are willing to negotiate, which is why they agreed to the temporary cease fire; but then again they have there demands and Hamas also have there own demands. But Hamas prefers to negotiate via rockets and Israel spoke the same language...if Israel were the ones to start the hostilities, i would understand why everyone is calling Israel names, but they are merely protecting their citizens, yes Palestinians have recorded the most losses so far, but what do you expect Israel to do? Call for negotiations when rockets are landing on their soil from Gaza? Wars has forever been and will ALWAYS be and there is NO fair way to fight. Get over it and see things as they are today...leave the land grab and Zionist agenda you always quote...Israel is not going to disappear, so Hamas should keep the rockets and seek other ways to get attention to them and whatever injustice they might be facing..and dialogue. But as long as the rockets keep landing...am with Israel on this one!

Baldmarv:
oga, i don't understand your arguments again...i agree that today's Israel in the sight of God are the Christians all over the world. That said, God gave Isreal by war and planted them in this land, right? So the multiplied and became great and because of history of enmity with various surrounding enemies they took control of Gaza to protect themselves because they prefer to do that than to allow them gather weapons that the INTEND to use against Israel...for me its a no brainer, if the enemy is controlled he can not hurt you, i bet you would be happy if you are from the northeast Nigeria and the military took total control of supplies entering sambisa...
You advocate negotiations, and apparently Israel are willing to negotiate, which is why they agreed to the temporary cease fire; but then again they have there demands and Hamas also have there own demands. But Hamas prefers to negotiate via rockets and Israel spoke the same language...if Israel were the ones to start the hostilities, i would understand why everyone is calling Israel names, but they are merely protecting their citizens, yes Palestinians have recorded the most losses so far, but what do you expect Israel to do? Call for negotiations when rockets are landing on their soil from Gaza? Wars has forever been and will ALWAYS be and there is NO fair way to fight. Get over it and see things as they are today...leave the land grab and Zionist agenda you always quote...Israel is not going to disappear, so Hamas should keep the rockets and seek other ways to get attention to them and whatever injustice they might be facing..and dialogue. But as long as the rockets keep landing...am with Israel on this one!

I recognize dat wars hav forever been and will always be. There's nothing to get over. d long-agreed means of achieving peace is d 2 state solution. Pls It is not rocket science, take a look beyond zionist propaganda & u will understand dat Israel does not want a 2 state solution. Israel continues to frustrate d peace process by building settlements non-stop on d land of d future state of Palestine. I ask u what msg does dat send?. Israel wants d whole land alone. It is painful watching d kind of indignities suffered by moderates like Mahmud Abass in their search 4 peace wit an insincere partner like zionist Israel. Even Israel's greatest ally d USA is frustrated by Israeli intransigence - Obama : 'Israeli settlement building not constructive to peace'. b4 dis present incursion, hamas & its reputation had been severely weakened & had about 10% popularity among Palestinians but wit dis war it now has an acceptance of about 80%. d 2 state solution has 75% acceptance among d palestinian people & thru negotiations just like those wit d ANC & IRA which were also labelled as terrorist organizations, Hamas will hav no option but to accept dis highly popular 2 state solution or bcom irrelevant.
d extremist Natanyahu after killing so many innocent women & children keeps deceiving people by declaring an insincere ceasefire knowing hamas will reject it because it was based on d status-quo without making any concessions, not even to open up d human prison by relaxation of d borders & crossings. d militant hamas resistance & rockets will stop only when Israel would stop being a rogue state & respect d same UN resolution which brought it into being. If Israel ends its illegal occupation, it will lead to d creation of independent Arab and Jewish States. If most people lived under d conditions in which Gazans live, they would probably throw a rocket too.

The level of cognitive dissonance and breathless dishonesty is amazing...

datribune:


take a look beyond zionist propaganda & u will understand dat Israel does not want a 2 state solution. Israel continues to frustrate d peace process by building settlements non-stop on d land of d future state of Palestine.

Which sorta begs the question... then why are the rockets coming from gaza and not the westbank? the "settlements" are being built in the westbank so why is hamas (which governs only gaza) shooting rockets at Israel? Could it be the problem really isnt anything to do with "settlements"?

datribune:
Israel wants d whole land alone.

Really? and that's why it gave back the Sinai to Egypt after signing an accord in 1979? That's why it gave back gaza in its entirety in the early 2000s?

datribune:
It is painful watching d kind of indignities suffered by moderates like Mahmud Abass in their search 4 peace wit an insincere partner like zionist Israel.

Calling Mahmoud Abass a moderate is laughably dumb. The same man who engaged in holocaust denial in his 1982 thesis?

datribune:
Even Israel's greatest ally d USA is frustrated by Israeli intransigence - Obama : 'Israeli settlement building not constructive to peace'. b4 dis present incursion, hamas & its reputation had been severely weakened & had about 10% popularity among Palestinians but wit dis war it now has an acceptance of about 80%. d 2 state solution has 75% acceptance among d palestinian people & thru negotiations just like those wit d ANC & IRA which were also labelled as terrorist organizations, Hamas will hav no option but to accept dis highly popular 2 state solution or bcom irrelevant.

yeah what nonsense... Hamas popularity makes no difference in gaza. It is a dictatorship...

datribune:
If Israel ends its illegal occupation, it will lead to d creation of independent Arab and Jewish States. If most people lived under d conditions in which Gazans live, they would probably throw a rocket too.

Oh, such as exist in Libya, pakistan, iraq, Somalia, sudan, syria, lebanon or afghanistan? Yeah... sure.

Wtf was dat come on it's football not rugby, dats violence can't just believe dat

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davidylan: The level of cognitive dissonance and breathless dishonesty is amazing...



Which sorta begs the question... then why are the rockets coming from gaza and not the westbank? the "settlements" are being built in the westbank so why is hamas (which governs only gaza) shooting rockets at Israel? Could it be the problem really isnt anything to do with "settlements"?



Really? and that's why it gave back the Sinai to Egypt after signing an accord in 1979? That's why it gave back gaza in its entirety in the early 2000s?



Calling Mahmoud Abass a moderate is laughably dumb. The same man who engaged in holocaust denial in his 1982 thesis?



yeah what nonsense... Hamas popularity makes no difference in gaza. It is a dictatorship...



Oh, such as exist in Libya, pakistan, iraq, Somalia, sudan, syria, lebanon or afghanistan? Yeah... sure.

What is amazing about ur post is d level of deliberate distortion & disinformation.

U said:
'Which sorta begs the question...then why are the rockets coming from gaza and not the westbank the " settlements" are being built in the westbank so why is hamas ( which governs only gaza) shooting rockets at Israel? Could it be the problem isnt anything to do with "settlements"?

It is funny dat u accuse me of dishonesty but u conveniently refused to recognize d immediate reason 4 d rejection of d ceasefire & d launching of rockets frm Gaza - d land, air & sea blockade dat has turned gaza to a human prison. Unless & until Israel truly commits to a 2-state solution & lifts d siege on gaza, one man's terrorist will be another man's freedom fighter. Hamas freedom fighters will face d sophisticated guns of d 5th strongest army in d world wit crude, home made rockets than go back to d status quo. It is left 4 d world to call Israel to order.

U said:
Really? and that's why it gave back the Sinai to Egypt after signing an accord in 1979? That's why it back gaza in 2000s?.

It is naive & disingenuous to make comparisons between those previous Israeli governments & dis Netanyahu's extremist right-wing govt. Only d gullible will believe dat dis man believes in a 2 state solution based on his present actions & past antecedents. Look my friend, Netanyahu never believed in giving back Gaza, rather, he resigned his appointment as finance minister in protest against Sharon's withdrawal from gaza. Wake up dude, ur man is a dangerous & dishonest right wing zionist extremist who does not believe in peace or a 2 state solution.

U said:
' Calling Mahmoud Abass a moderate is laughably dumb. The same man who engaged in holocaust denial in his 1982 thesis?.'

Ok oga Sorry, Mahmud Abass is also a terrorist. If calling Mahmud Abass a moderate is dumb, then d UN, USA, Israel etc ar laughably dumb. What if he doubted d holocaust in a 1982 thesis?. Mahmud Abass is d best partner Israel will ever get. Unlike Netanyahu, he's a man interested in peace, a straight-forward man who has taken a lot of risks & yielded grounds to try & make peace possible.

U said:
'yeah what nonsense... Hamas popularity makes no differencein gaza. It is a dictatorship...'

Now, dis is what is laughably dumb & clueless. Trying to distort & rewrite history. Hamas a dictatorship?. U should feel embarrassed to come on a public forum to regurgitate d usual boring, false, zionist propaganda & talking points dat we hear daily frm Israeli officials on CNN. bros it is so lame. Hamas is a dictatorship in d books of zionists & their sympathisers. Whether u like it or not, hamas is a democratically elected govt. What we see in gaza is dat no matter what, Gazans ar wit them & continue to demonstrate & unite against zionist occupation.

U said:
Oh, such as exist in Libya,Pakistan, iraq, Somalia, sudan, syria,lebanon or afghaistan?. Yeah...sure'

Ar u suggesting dat Palestinians do not deserve their own state?. I'm hoping dat's not ur position.

Edusouls: Isreal rejected christ and his teachimgs, tormented and crucified him, they re a cursed race, their heart is so hardened, they are dammned to violence and destruction, death, agony, till the second coming wen they face the final wrath of God...

You musn't be a christian because you haven't read the bible in your life...
They killing of christ is divine and it's the best thing to happen to humanity, our souls count more.
Pls I have a question to ask you if you think you know about the origin of all this;
Where was abram born and does anyone then know God?
What was the region Abram (Abraham) practiced?
Can you trace christianity without Abraham?
Pls I am waiting so I will feel your ignorance.

datribune:


d Israel to whom God gave d land is not the same nation dat we call Israel today. God gave the land to a people united to him by a solemn covenant ( Ex. 19-20 ). The present state of Israel is a state that does not recognize the God of the Bible as its supreme Lord. These unbelieving Jews hav been broken off frm dis covenant for in their unbelief they regard xtianity as idolatry & Jesus as a false prophet who came to turn humanity away frm God. Rather as a xtian Pray 4 humanity & condemn d genocide perpetrated by a nation whose guiding ideology is racism, zionism & apartheid. d Palestinian struggle is not a TERRORIST/MUSLIM/ RELIGIOUS issue. It is about an illegal LAND GRAB by zionists & a resiistance against dis illegality by d indigenous people of palestine.

No I doubt you, you are confuse in this, right from the origin of Israel, their belief never changed.
The Israelites believe in the God of the Holy bible. Judaism never for once doubt His existence but the difference is what I reserve to teach you when you answer my questions;
Before God bless the Isralites what was their religion?
I rest my comment here temporary!

hamilton62:
No I doubt you, you are confuse in this, right from the origin of Israel, their belief never changed.
The Israelites believe in the God of the Holy bible. Judaism never for once doubt His existence but the difference is what I reserve to teach you when you answer my questions;
Before God bless the Isralites what was their religion?
I rest my comment here temporary!

Brov it is you who has got the whole thing wrong, that guy you quoted up there is right, I bet you have never been in the midst of the Jewish people.The you wil believe they truely are not the God blessed ones in the Bible.Them Jews if you read the Bible well crucified Jesus they even mocked him for saying he is Son of David King of the Jews.The Jews of today DO NOT GO TO CHURCH rather Synagogue, have you been to a Synagogue?have you seen a rabbi?

erico2k2:
Brov it is you who has got the whole thing wrong, that guy you quoted up there is right, I bet you have never been in the midst of the Jewish people.The you wil believe they truely are not the God blessed ones in the Bible.Them Jews if you read the Bible well crucified Jesus they even mocked him for saying he is Son of David King of the Jews.The Jews of today DO NOT GO TO CHURCH rather Synagogue, have you been to a Synagogue?have you seen a rabbi?

Hahahahhahahaha! My brother, erico2k2 please read well and understand me, it was already predestined for Him, Jesus to be killed by His people so we can be saved via His blood and that doesn't make them be another but the Jews.
Read your bible you will know that the house of God then was synagogue(not church) and the teachers are called rabbi(not pastors) just as he was called by many.
Don't you know that the then religion the israelites had is still the present Judaism, you need to go to school of theology to know this?
Do you know Abraham came from Ura in a place where God was not known and His religion was Judaism after God brought him out of His father's negative religion and called him His son?
And do you know the difference between christianity and Judaism?
Pls I need critics with reasons, I will clear the air for you and a lot of others.
Bible's the greatest book of all time but to understand more about everything documented, we need help... Ask "true" theologians for one.
I love the bible, a book of all books.
Let the ride continue

hamilton62:
Hahahahhahahaha! My brother, erico2k2 please read well and understand me, it was already predestined for Him, Jesus to be killed by His people so we can be saved via His blood and that doesn't make them be another but the Jews.
Read your bible you will know that the house of God then was synagogue(not church) and the teachers are called rabbi(not pastors) just as he was called by many.
Don't you know that the then religion the israelites had is still the present Judaism, you need to go to school of theology to know this?
Do you know Abraham came from Ura in a place where God was not known and His religion was Judaism after God brought him out of His father's negative religion and called him His son?
And do you know the difference between christianity and Judaism?
Pls I need critics with reasons, I will clear the air for you and a lot of others.
Bible's the greatest book of all time but to understand more about everything documented, we need help... Ask "true" theologians for one.
I love the bible, a book of all books.
Let the ride continue

Ok let me ask you a question regarding Moses, where did he preach?

erico2k2:
Ok let me ask you a question regarding Moses, where did he preach?

You are really funny, this is no competition bro, you duck my question and expect me to be an answer to your questionnaire, I'm sorry I have to disappoint you and decline....

hamilton62:
You are really funny, this is no competition bro, you duck my question and expect me to be an answer to your questionnaire, I'm sorry I have to disappoint you and decline....

Brov the questions you asked had already been answered, plz scroll back.The scope here is to enlighten people that the jews aint christians and thought by many ignorant people, thats where we seek clarity.