piagetskinner: Very soon adverts will start coming up for bitter kola juice

alotofgrace:
must we even waot for the oyinbo to validate it?
if is solves it...so b it

overhypedsteve: it is the world largest food and drug body. It surpasses that of any country

numberoneautos: Thanks for the information pal, but to some doubting thomas out there, note that this research have been made long before Iwu became INEC chiarman.

Jeezyy: End time virus

bushdoc9919: Well,have read the article.....and the reason why it isn't a cure is simple

[size=22pt]It has not yet undergone phase 3 testing in humans, talkless of animal testing.[/size]

Before any drug can be used....itmust undergo animal testing.....which it has not undergone yet....then human testing in phases...phase 1,2 and 3.

Now the aim is to get the drug into phase 3 testing....a process which could take years.....and which is fraught with ethical issues. Explaining further....a phase 3 trial would involve comparing the drug vs placebo in a large groupofatients (half on new drug,half on fake drug) But if the drug works.....then what about all those who died ?

Also for the drug to be a cure...it must do one thing

[size=22pt]Clear Ebola from all organs and tissue and plasma in the body.[/size]

So,to cut a long story short....Prof Iwu's work is promising....but until it has undergone satisfactory animal and human testing....it isnot a cure yet.

A brief summary of how drugs are developed

MrPresident1: What is Ebola? Is it the name of a new movie?

Abi is it the latest game in town?

I keep hearing Ebola Ebola Ebola... wetin be Ebola

Samgreguc:
meaning?

MrPresident1: What is Ebola? Is it the name of a new movie?

Abi is it the latest game in town?

I keep hearing Ebola Ebola Ebola... wetin be Ebola

iwonbaoko: Not ALL drugs must undergo animal testing. If the substance is already considered safe or already being consumed by humans e.g honey garlic etc and then lter is claimed to have medicinal properties there is really no need for animal testing. I imagine this would apply to bitter cola too

bushdoc9919:

Honey and garlic do not have curative properties.....but rather nutritive value.

As for Bitter Kolanut.....before the drug can be considered a cure....it must have been proven to clear the ebola viral particles from all tissues, organs and cells in the human body AFTER a phase 3 RCT.

Regarding Ebola....what we should be looking for is a vaccine that prevents infection( as well as a drug!). You see, viruses work by getting their genetic material integrated into individual cell's genetic materials and using the cell to produce new viruses....which then burst out of the cell to repeat the process in other cells.(Horrible isn't it?). So, any drug that clears Ebola MUST be formulated to get into the cells to stop the said integration.....and that is where the vaccine comes in.( A third alternative is genetically enginering humans to be resistant to Ebola...but that is decades away).

Right now....Kola appears to work invitro. What is needed is animal studies....then human studies. But all that will take years to come to fruition.

iwonbaoko:
Your problem is you like to talk but do not listen.
Firstly use your terminology carefully Whether or not they do is debatable. Firstly you have to define "curative properties" I am not aware of a scientific definition of curative. Certainly drugs do not have to be CURATIVE they may only provide relieve of symptoms without "curing" anything. Even POISONS are classed as drugs!!
Perhaps you need to check the definition of "DRUG" again. Even water and ice can be used as drugs !!!

The issue I am responding to is "drug trial" IT IS NOT TRUE (AS YOU CLAIMED) THAT ALL DRUGS MUST UNDERGO ANIMAL TRIALS. I am not even debating any of that Ebola stuff. If bitter kola is useful it may not have to undergo animal trials because it is generally safe in humans unless it is going to be used in unusually amounts

Honey is definitely used as a "DRUG" in post operative care it has antibacterial but that is not even the point.

bushdoc9919:

I heard you....you were trying to defend Kola as an Ebola cure in a roundabout way by saying that ''not all drugs undergo animal testing''. Now that may have been true in the past (snake antivenom never underwent animal testing)....but it isn't true now....and certainly would NOT be true for any potential cure for Ebola.

The problem also is that you think I am attacking African ideas. I am not....and as I told someone elsewhere....we can do all the advanced research into Ebola treatment here by funding education, and power supply adequately. (Just like the Indians do it).

Garlic is used as an aid to keep BP down...it is not a cure for hypertension. Honey has been validated in research as a good wound healing agent. They are not cures.

Neither is Kolanut....as the OP and others try to imply....a good cure for Ebola....UNTIL....it has undergone adequate invitro., animal and even Phase 1-4 testing and has been PROVEN to clear ebola viral particles(Nowadays, we can skip the animal testing....but it is still the gold standard).

Samgreguc:
y mst it b US Food and Drug Administration and not NAFDAC?

Acidosis: Only Certified Pharmacologists/Lab Pharmacologists can work out a reasonable cure.

Undermine their ability; and get ready to bury more bodies.

MrPresident1: What is Ebola? Is it the name of a new movie?

Abi is it the latest game in town?

I keep hearing Ebola Ebola Ebola... wetin be Ebola

iwonbaoko:

Actually I have no opinion on bitter kola or Ebola. Form the habit of listening!
I am just trying to correct the error that "ALL DRUGS MUST UNDERGO ANIMAL TESTING" as you claimed. This is untrue, once you are big enough to admit you got that wrong I have nothing else to say. Once again I have no opinion on bitter kola as a drug. I simply do not have any facts!
Drugs are not necessarily "curative" sometimes they are use to carry out state sanctioned executions i.e (POISONS),often for symptomatic relief and other adjunctive uses like anaesthesia e.g

Others are used for recreation e.g nicotine, alcohol, cannabis who is it that says a substance must be a "cure" for something to qualify as a "DRUG"

Many drugs are used for hypertension can you tell us one that is a "CURE"? I beg of you JUST ONE PLEASE
What is all this about "CURE"? Is the word cure material to definition of what a drug is??

Many agents are used in

arthritis
Epilepsy
Parkinson's disease
hypertension
sickle cell disease
HIV
diabetes
Asthma
schizophrenia
and many more conditions yet there is no known "cure" for these conditions so your argument that honey is not a drug because it i not a "CURE" is funny

What about sleeping tablets are they "cures" are they drugs?

bushdoc9919:

OK I hear you....it is just that people on other threads where I have made above point have accused me of being a white man slave...and I assumed your post was like theirs.

Ezibless: Ok Mr Pharmacologist,I think duty calls

Acidosis:

my sweet nurse, as long as you'll be there to take care for me; why NOT?

Ezibless: Bros OYO for you o

There are four types of the virus - Ebola-Zaire, Ebola-Sudan and Ebola-Ivory Coast all affect humans, while Ebola-Reston has so far only affected monkeys and chimpanzees.