BetaThings:

Yet Christians continuously abuse Muslims who condemn terror on Nairaland
Yet Rev King quoted the Bible
Yet Christians bomb abortion clinics
Yet Sarah Palin justified the invasion of Iraq as a duty to God
Yet every Christian country is armed to the teeth!

Yet Christianity was spread by extreme violence all over the World
Evangelists arrive after the people have been militarily subdued!

Christians were actively supporting murders in Vietnam, Rwanda, Iraq etc
Christian is the most intolerant religion ever
You will not stop, no matter what muslims do
Because your religion cannot stand having an alternative

BetaThings:
Examples of the people the Op quoted speaking from both sides of their mouth
Examples please

Your likes live in eternal hatred of Muslims and every weapon must be deployed to promote that hatred

BetaThings:
Here we go again
People just fixated to their viewpoints

You should evaluate your own intellectual honesty

Empiree: Chai, fellas came to see the thread but disappointed upon arrival.

BetaThings: @Vedaxcool
Excellent POST!

Keep debunking
But we know they will keep arguing because they just hate Islam

Empiree: @ Betathings, pay them no mind. They are jealous. That's what it's. Most of these non-muslim folks on NL refused to condemn Israel terrorism in Gaza including pseudo-Muslim, Usermane. Did you read his hate comment up there?. He preaches hate to cure "hate". They will never be satisfied. The unbelievers have lost (all) hope. They are so annoying. What they dont understand is that their action makes them unpopular. I dont want to have much direct confrontation with them.

Looks like e-bo-li infected their usernames is the reason they behave like @$$ (donkey). Bottom line is it is hate that blinds their reasoning faculty. Neither Vedaxcool nor other Muslims owe them explanation. They are vindictive extremists.

vedaxcool:



Islamophobes be like the panda in the picture



www.nairaland.com/attachments/1605834_lolz_jpeg_jpegc02022d41f109f0e4ce8cdac1ae7982d

Empiree:

Lol, man in tie looks like tbaba while panda acts like usermane. I cant stop laughing

BetaThings:

And there is no Non-muslim country that is not armed to the teeth!
So should Muslims actually believe that Christians believe in forgiveness?



Proof!
Because Muslims started condemning immediately
Though no Muslim prganisation took credit for the action immediately
And as soon as Oklahoma bombing happened people like you started blaming Muslims
Asking them to condemn it

Until we realised that Timothy McVeigh was not a Muslim
the implacable enemies of Islam like you always arm yourselves with lies

sino: By the power confered on me by the ijmah reformist/modernist "Muslims",, and deriving conclusions from your recent posts, I hereby dub thee, vedaxcool, a passive terrorist!

When America killed innocent millions because of one man, they are justified, they have the right to kill and destroy, and when a minute group of "supposed" Muslims kill few innocent people, including Muslims, Islam and Muslims are terrorist. And when Muslims and Scholars condemn these acts of terrorism, they still are not doing enough, they are being deceptive ... I wonder what they truly want from Muslims...

vedaxcool:

Well played

BetaThings:

And what is the percentage of the Muslims doing that?
So you actually believe that every Nigerian is a fraudster because of Yahoo Yahoo guys

So every time any Nigerian says we are not fraudsters you would tell him to say that to yahoo yahoo guys because that crime must be reduced to zero first
On that score every h.o.m.o.s.i.c.k must be child moleste
Every Christian must be a supporter Rev King

nedu2000: I don't know if ur a muslim or do,if u ain't try to be cautious,all muslim dominated countries persecute christians massively-quote me!!,if ur in a country like qatar is better,you only restriction is parading ur bible in public. The muslims down south r only tolerate 'cos they r not the dominant religion .Pls let's don't pretend it doesn't exist just 'cause we r advocating for world peace- a fair 80% of muslims are intolerant and that's a majority
NB: I've lived in Borno,Kano and visited qatar

sino:
See, we do not pretend, we tell it as it is. I beg to differ from your statistics, you say 80% are intolerant, how did you arrive at this? PLEASE DO TELL

While you were staying in these muslim dominated areas, what were the intolerance you experienced? Can you please share?

sino:
See, we do not pretend, we tell it as it is. I beg to differ from your statistics, you say 80% are in 0 tolerant, how did you arrive at this? PLg. EASE DO TELL

WhileZ0. you were staying in these muslim dominated areas, what were the intolerance you experienced? Can you please share?

TheBigUrban2:



Did you mentally block out the things she/he said about bibles in Qatar?

TheBigUrban2:
What about atheists? 13 islamic countries have death penalties for atheism. 13 countries!!!! Shame on any muslim that denies the intolerance. Shame shame shame

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/10/us-religion-atheists-idUSBRE9B900G20131210

nedu2000: in mirnga,borno state (where I served) I was d NFCS coordinator there,the 1st thing the district head told me and my colleagues to our faces was that they will tolerate anything from us apart from their women and their religion & that anything that comes as a result of that we should take it,we don't carry bibles anyhow it their streets. I also mentored the xtian children girls in the the school is was posted(GGSS,mirnga)and what they went through in the hands of their muslim families & colleague is worthy of its own thread!!As for my experience is Qatar,the intolerance is legendary-there's a time limit and restrictions in possessing ur bible,I don't need to tell u evangelism is a criminal offence,leaving islam attracts the death penalty,u heard of the sudanese woman!!.You can get info from a 3rd party if u want.
80%?hmmm I'm being generous

In May 2005, representatives of Christian churches in Qatar signed an agreement with the Qatari Government for a fifty-year lease on a large piece of property on the outskirts of Doha on which they intended to erect six churches at their own expense. The churches were expected to pay nominal lease fees of a few hundred dollars a year, renewable after ten years. The property was expected to include an Anglican church that may also be used by other Protestant denominations, a church to serve thirty four Indian-Christian congregations, a church for the country's small but influential Coptic community, and a site for two Orthodox churches, one Greek and one Eastern Rite. In December 2005, the foundation stone for the Catholic Church was laid and the ground-breaking took place at the end of April 2006. A board composed of members of all the Christian churches liaises directly with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding church matters. Each church has been granted permission to apply for visas for visiting clerics to preside over and assist in church services. Previously, Catholics and other Christians were limited to informal group meetings in homes.

The Anglican Church of the Epiphany, was officially opened on 21 September 2013 and consecrated on 28 September 2013. The church sanctuary can accommodate up to 650 worshipers. The Anglican Centre, managed by the Anglican Church in Qatar, accommodates 59 additional Evangelical, Pentecostal and Protestant congregations.[5]

The St Issac and St George Greek Orthodox Church serves the orthodox communities numbering about 10,000 people from the Middle East, Asia, Syria and Africa.

sino: Oh dear!
Are you upset? I read it's a global discrimination o, poor you guys, don't worry, just let me know when next you guys gather for worship or whatever you call it, and I'll come give you support, but hope you've got no fruitcakes amongst you o...

oopsy! I thought atheism is a religion

sino:

I'm sorry, but if all you wrote here is what makes Muslims intolerant, then it's a huge joke!

I mean, you stated it yourself that they will tolerate anything except their women and religion, like what exactly would you want from their women and religion? If i come to your house, shouldn't I respect your beliefs and your family?

And do you carry your bible about everyday?

Please how does Qatar give time limits and restrict your possessing your bible? i don't understand...

And also, how come the intolerance of Qatar attracts Christians, making up 13.8% of their total population?! and they even have churches...

sino:
I remembered i had discussed this issue of banning bibles in the case of KSA, eventually, it was just plain misinformation being circulated, but, well, i would need to understand what is meant by public display of bibles, you know, i no sabi english We know some Christians can be very zealous when they intend to spread the gospel by fire by ....
Oh dear!
Are you upset? I read it's a global discrimination o, poor you guys, don't worry, just let me know when next you guys gather for worship or whatever you call it, and I'll come give you support, but hope you've got no fruitcakes amongst you o...
oopsy! I thought atheism is a religion

TheBigUrban2: ^^^^

Trolling your own thread......wow

cloudstar:

Most Muslims are not objective when though questions about violence and extremism in Islam is brought to light. Instead of answering the question, they turn 360 degrees and start talking about Christians.

TheBigUrban2:


What nonsense are you saying? 13 islamic countries have death penalties for atheism and you are claiming

1) Atheism is a religion
2) It is a global discrimination


Why must you obfuscate? Why not address the intolerance?

Religious freedom to everyone and prohibition of any exercise of force in this respect, in response to God’s Sayings in the Glorious Qur’an: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.” (Q2, 256) and “Wilt thou then compel mankind against their will to believe!” (Q10, 99). This sayings show how the use of pressure on man’s freedom is denounced.

Regarding the prohibition of a Muslim to change his religion and which is considered by a man alien to Islam to be also a restriction violating Article (18) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which gave every person the right to change his religion and on which the kingdom also gave its reservations at the time of the drafting of the charter, we say that according to the reasoning of Islam, this is not a restriction on the freedom of every person to change his religion, but is the outcome of a historical incident. It was established to curb a Jewish conspiracy which was plotted in the early days of Islam when all the Arabs of the city of al Madinah Al Munawwara united themselves after an armed conflict between them caused by the Jewish refugees. The Jews then craftily thought to let some of them join Islam then renounce it in order to make the Arabs suspect their religion and be misled. A law originated from that incident preventing a Muslim from changing his religion and threatening to penalize him so that nobody could join Islam excepting after making rational and scientific study of its doctrines ending with his permanent acceptance of the Muslim creed. That was meant to cut off the way for evil men and their like of superficial people, under the threat of punishment, from joining Islam, for the sake of extirpating malicious elements who have been persisting in spreading evil on Earth.

It is clear from the reasoning of Islam respecting this point also that it does not spring from the logic of restriction of freedom but rather from logic of the curbing of the intrigues of the plotters who are addicted to the spread of evil in the world. Thus, this matter is purely an Islamic interpretation-Ijtihad-which is one of the requirements of freedom of opinion. It should not be opposed by a counter-interpretation, for everyone has his own interpretation of things, and we have our own interpretation which is supported by historical facts, and our concern on not letting anyone join Islam excepting those who believe in it in a positive and decisive manner. This shows the extent of sacredness attached to the faith which Islam does not allow to be superficial and subject to the misleading of evil persons.

sino:

Bros, how many atheist have been executed in those 13 countries? Give references abeg!

The research basically stated the established law for apostasy in those 13 countries, it wasn't as if they enacted new laws or something...

sino:


Before the loss of data on Nairaland, I had posted documented proceeding of the conference of Riyad on Muslim doctrine and human rights in Islam, a conference which was held in 1972 between Saudi delegates and European commission of jurists.

In that report, it categorically stated that


Again, in the same report, apostasy was also mentioned, and explained...

TheBigUrban2:
in many islamic countries, apostasy/blasphemy is simply
a) An muslim leaving the religion and saying why he/she left the religion of islam or
b) An atheist saying that there is no God in public or on the internet or
c) A non-muslim giving valid reasons why Muhammad(pbuh) is not a prophet
A,b,c can all carry death penalties
Alexander Aan in Indonesia is a great example of (a,b,c).