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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by heatmeup(f): 10:00am On Sep 02, 2014
cueless party
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by yerimastyle(m): 10:01am On Sep 02, 2014
APC changing names since 500BC desperately in need of power from AD, ACN, AC, APC as if changing the Name is significant next is PDA
egift: APC is a breath of fresh air to the corrupt ridden PDP that has spent 15 years in making Nigeria a giant crawling on it stomach. APC is a viable alternative to PDP. Never in this democratic dispensation have we ever had an alternative that defeat the monster called PDP.

By voting in APC and voting out PDP, Nigerians will achieve 4 things in our Political Space:
1. That the Masses are the Boss. While our politicians are the servants.
2. It will mean the APC will not repeat the callous and nonchalant leadership dispositions that PDP have been dishing out for the last 15 years.
3. PDP will have the opportunity to go back to the drawing board to prioritize what is paramount to them (protect criminals or serve the masses).
4. And since PDP know how to steal, they will better police the FG under APC by exposing any imaginable malpractice even before Nigerians can find out.

So any Patriotic Nigerian will see that it is for the best interest of Nigeria to vote out PDP and elect APC come 2015. This nation will triumph again.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by begwong: 10:01am On Sep 02, 2014
size38: When u tell Nigerians what manner of PDP, the ruling party is. We will tell u what u don't want to know about APC
You can as well create a new topic on that but meanwhile,give us your take on this first biko!
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 10:01am On Sep 02, 2014
honeric01: Obviously, this OP does not understand the meaning of "opposition party" grin
You can avail us with your understanding on what an opposition party entails?


Was this how our heroes past like Awo and Azikiwe played opposition that made them national icons?

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:04am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: [s] PDP, I am afraid, are realists.

Granted, they have shortcomings.

They are not promising utopia just to get power at all cost. [/s]
you're not making sense. Am not surprised your topic is absolutely senseless. If APC is not a vibrant opposition party,tell me which political party is? Is it APGA which has been campaigning for Jonathan more than PDP which the president belongs to or Labour Party which is already in extinction as we speak? Tell me na!!
As I said,your topic doesn't make sense!

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by heatmeup(f): 10:04am On Sep 02, 2014
boring
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Oseni007(m): 10:04am On Sep 02, 2014
Unlike late sir Ahmadu Bello,the late Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe and the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo,the founding fathers of the nation who were guided by ideologies with which they laid the foundation for the development of their regions and Nigeria at Large,many of today's politicians quickly defect to another political party once their personal interest and political ambitions are not met in any party I.e Nuhu Ribadu,APC to PDP,Ibrahim Shekarau APC to PDP, Olagunsoye Oyinlola PDP to APC..........I don't see any opposition,just same old same running in a circle. Ps; Nobody is talking about Chibok girls,that should be our main priority for nw,all we hear is second term agenda and what not......[color=#000000][/color]
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by mashodehammer: 10:05am On Sep 02, 2014
Actually, the APC ought to do better than they are currently doing. Am worried about their Area boys/ Violence mentality, and something lawlessness, very unbecoming of a party seeking to Lead.
The PDP is on the other hand the Worst of Everything Good.
Therefore, Nigeria is still in the woods, no Eldorado in the future with this crop of leaders.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by meforyou1(m): 10:05am On Sep 02, 2014
APC's kind of opposition is like the Muslim Brotherhood opposition in Egypt. And they need to be banned, disbanded and destroyed before they actualize their plan of disintegrating this country.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:05am On Sep 02, 2014
I don't think this thread is Worthy of my time. It defies logic and is an embarrassment to common sense. That it made front page is more embarrassing. Its a shame

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by jennylove7575(f): 10:05am On Sep 02, 2014
APC are spoilers, mouthy, loud, liars, over the top and overrating themselves..just as the ruling party PDP...as far as am concern, in Nigeria, APC, PDP and the rest of them have the same goal. behind their charade promises to citizens during their campaign, rests greed, money laundring, looting and self serving interest. How to dupe Nigeria is their underlying goal. I have no respect for any of the parties, all of them have the same motives..these wicked politicians have got nothing to offer other than miseries, pain and suffering plus security for themselves only. ..mthchewww...

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:06am On Sep 02, 2014
rman: The OP wants an opposition that will be praising government in power. WRONG!.

IMO everyone must ask questions concerning people in government all the time, not only opposition, because they are our employees.

The vibes I get with those in support of PDP or GEJ is that APC should laud PDP sometimes. That should never happen, rather they should just keep mute whenever they know PDP has done something right.

Opposition that praise government in power does not deserve to be voted for.

When two people agree all the time, only one of them is needed.

Yes, I support APC's way of always giving PDP headache, otherwise, the country would have been on free fall right now.

Even if APC does not get to power, Nigerians need them. Do not be fooled Nigerians, PDP wants a one party state, and that is what will eventually lead to the collapse of democracy. If you don't like APC vote APGA, LP, AC etc but unfortunately PDP has successfully kept those ones under wrap.

@OP, my question is ; how did we end up with APC as the only viable opposition to PDP? Answering this question intelligently will let you know we all are on a long thing if we continue to assume only one party is good enough for Nigerians.

Ciao.
ENDORSED!!
@bolded, OP please answer that question

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Abok1(m): 10:06am On Sep 02, 2014
In this trying times when the sanity of the populace is constantly under stress from the Aeolists in power, no thanks to our Nelipot President who chose to dine with the corrupt and people of Jumentous existence, with no ounce of integrity, the only hope is for the people to support the opposition.

The Jonathanians when asked to state the reason why we should give GEJ another 4 years, would not provide a viable response which is devoid of ethnical undertones, bile and religious hatred. They miss the true meaning of governance which is built on a foundation of service to humanity and to one's conscience. When asked why the opposition is wrong, they make Gambrinous statements like someone suffering form a chronic case of lalochezia and the president himself, an eccedentesiast constantly fanning the embers of hatred when given the slightest opportunity.

Like a Morosoph which they are, they lack the required wherewithal to intellectually prove their points without resorting to insults. In plain terms, tell us why APC is bad, they will dodge this rhetorical question and resort to throwing tantrums based on unfounded hear-says "APC is muslim brotherhood".

When the government makes mistakes, we are not allowed to object without being tagged part of the opposition, as if theres a written rule somewhere which makes it a crime to ask questions. Politics in Nigeria as gone to the dogs.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by yerimastyle(m): 10:07am On Sep 02, 2014
APC changing bottle like star beer
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by obailala(m): 10:08am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: I am personally astounded by the developments in this country. The degree of bitterness and intolerance are getting pretty worrisome.

Granted, the government in power has a lot to do to meet the expectation of the electorates that voted it into power. But then we have to draw a line between a constructive opposition and sheer unreasonableness.


In other climes, opposition elements make their mark by complementing the party in power. In other words, they, as a watchdog of government, provide constructive opposition. They praise the government when it makes positive progress and provide constructive criticism when the government falls out of line.

From the foregoing, the opposition duly earn their respect and recognition.
Infact,the opposition conduct themselves as a credible alternative. Put in another way, the opposition demonstrate, by their action, that they be could entrusted to form a broad-based government without jeopardising the common good.


The case of Nigeria is pathetically unfortunate. We have a situation where the major opposition party practically see nothing good in whatever the government does. It is as if the main opposition party viz APC is pre-set willy-nilly to denigrate and disparage all actions of government.


I am constrained to ask whether this tendency is purely an African thing; where you must denigrate and malign your counterpart even when doi so is at the detriment of the common good...

The All Progressives Congress (APC), Nigeria's main opposition party, I believe, has not covered itself in that much glory over the past few days. One would have expected some level of appreciation and commendation for the growing democratic culture in Nigeria as witnessed by the free and fair elections in some states in the past few months.

Instead, all one hears are a cacophony of discordant voices.
Now, I am beginning to comprehend why Julius Nyerere asserted that African culture abhors opposition...

@Op,
To correct an erroneous assumption which you made, it is ONLY in Nigeria or maybe in Africa and other third world shaky democracies that an opposition party would come out and applaud the ruling party. I suppose your model of an opposition is what we have in Labour Party and APGA or in the 2007 and 2011 elections where 30 different political parties would endorse the incumbent president as their candidate?

You cannot be blamed because you were born in a country where all your life, you have been ruled by autocratic dictators and even when we transited to 'civilian' rule, we still practised an autocratic single party system up till last year when the APC was formed. Therefore, it doesn't come as a surprise that you and most Nigerians who are 'probably' sympathetic to GEJ/PDP and who are already used to autocracy, are confused at the concept of an opposition party being a pain in the butt of the ruling party.

Just like OseghaleEbosele rightly mentioned on this thread, go and study the situation in USA (Democratic Party vs Republican Party), UK and Australia(Labour Party vs Conservative Party), France (Socialist Party vs Union for a Popular Movement), Germany (Social Democratic. Party vs Christian Democratic Union). In the UK today, for every major decision made by the prime minister, an open debate would be held in the house of parliament between the prime minister Vs. the head of the opposition party; You need to understand that that is the beauty of democracy. The kind of opposition we have in Nigeria today is even a child's play because no matter how the APC screams and criticises, the ruling party still autocratically goes ahead to do whatever it likes...

...and just before I close this, @Op, can you please give an example of one of the 'good' policies of GEJ which was opposed by APC?

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by qtx(m): 10:09am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: The attitude you and several misguided folks are displaying is the crux of the matter.


Why is it that whatever the opposition don't understand must be wrong? Every policy initiated by the government must be wrong irrespective of the propriety of such policy.
This is the question most non-partisan Nigerians are asking.

Who told you guys that that is how politics is played? It is so painful to see that people cannot distinguish between nihilism and constructive engagement.

If you are not a good follower, how do you intend to become a good leader?

PDP is this, PDP is that...
Is the opposition aiming to outdo the ruling party in outlandish behaviour or to demonstrate that they are a better alternative by examplary conduct?

Does the Republican Party in the US set out to undermine the American government by showing to the outside world America's frailties as is almost the case in Nigeria?


Does the Labour Party in the UK go out of their way to rubbish the office of the Prime Minister just to score cheap political points or to engage in acts that undercut British institutions?

In advance democracies all over the world what we see are issue-based opposition politics and criticisms and not the desperado-style opposition being enacted in Nigeria where power is being sought at all cost.

Little wonder opposition parties are yet to form a government in Nigeria since independence in 1960.
This bros u get better head ojare. Carry on.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by honeric01(m): 10:10am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: You can avail us with your understanding what an opposition party entails?


Was this how our heroes past like Awo and Azikiwe played opposition that made them national icons?

And was this how the ruling party operated during their era?

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nonybb: 10:11am On Sep 02, 2014
APC is a crop of power mongering pathetic seed of Jihadist. They are all fundamentalist in their approach. I am apolitical in submission sometimes, but APC sees no good in everything right from inception. I dont know how they rate Nigerians sensibilities. A party that wants to arrogate itself to power must be meek, calm, seems to be the victim, civilized but APC is a gathering of born-to-Rule gangsters that dont even know what to do with power when they grab one. They want to taste it but dont know the usefulness

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by alotofgrace(m): 10:11am On Sep 02, 2014
OseghaleEbosele: From the article above it is obvious that the writer doesn't know anything abuit politics, whether in Nigeria or in other parts of the world. I suggest he should study the situation in USA (Democratic Party vs Republican Party), UK and Australia(Labour Party vs Conservative Party), France (Socialist Party vs Union for a Popular Movement), Germany (Social Democratic. Party vs Christian Democratic Union) etc

what about them and what do u know about politics? tell us.

APC N PDP aren't on the platform of manifesto yet. pdp are in power and opposing all their actions,even d good ones u n I know of, does not tell well on APC


Besides who would u choose over GEJ? who? be sincere
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by osnova(m): 10:13am On Sep 02, 2014
REALLY?..U BETTER BE FUNNY.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by uzolexis(f): 10:14am On Sep 02, 2014
APC=PDP no difference
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by nokingasgod: 10:16am On Sep 02, 2014
A Nigeria of today without APC is practically unimaginable. The level of mediocrity, impunity, rascality, pathological arrogance, lawlessness of the PDP led Federal Government would have consumed the contraption called Nigeria within the first few months of GEJ. THe APC will need to be more vocal and ferocious in bringing to the fore, the devilish tendencies of this government.

By and large, their criticisms have been based on issues, principles and the minimum deliverables required of a democratic Nigerian government of the 21 century.

The op should be kind enough to list at least 10 issues that the APC have raised that he thinks they are not appropriate and let's debate!

Lest I forget, i'm not a politician but I am a Nigerian in the know, so i'm a stakeholder in the project.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by omicron(m): 10:16am On Sep 02, 2014
We need a change of values as a people. It amazes how the youth have been brainwashed in Nigeria, to think that a particular party has the answer to our problems. I'm not saying we have to be apolitical, but we must demand what is our right from these so called leaders, irrespective of their parties.

As long as the Nigerian factor remains, it will always gonna be the same.

We need to constantly demand accountability and develelopment from every government, the same way we demand(ed) for the release of the Chibok girls.

We must continue to raise the political consciousness of the populace(which is way better than what it used to be in 1999, hence the increased interest in politics)

Education is the key. And most of Nigerians are not as educated as they should, and I do not refer those of us here on NL.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Yeeyo: 10:16am On Sep 02, 2014
Apc are devil advocate and kingpin of boko haram.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by epospiky(m): 10:19am On Sep 02, 2014
Childish party. That's what APC is. Always blabbing as if they could be in any way better. Well, talk, they say, is cheap.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by MisterLongman(m): 10:19am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: The attitude you and several misguided folks are displaying is the crux of the matter.


Why is it that whatever the opposition don't understand must be wrong? Every policy initiated by the government must be wrong irrespective of the propriety of such policy.
This is the question most non-partisan Nigerians are asking.

Who told you guys that that is how politics is played? It is so painful to see that people cannot distinguish between nihilism and constructive engagement.

If you are not a good follower, how do you intend to become a good leader?

PDP is this, PDP is that...
Is the opposition aiming to outdo the ruling party in outlandish behaviour or to demonstrate that they are a better alternative by examplary conduct?

Does the Republican Party in the US set out to undermine the American government by showing to the outside world America's frailties as is almost the case in Nigeria?


Does the Labour Party in the UK go out of their way to rubbish the office of the Prime Minister just to score cheap political points or to engage in acts that undercut British institutions?

In advance democracies all over the world what we see are issue-based opposition politics and criticisms and not the desperado-style opposition being enacted in Nigeria where power is being sought at all cost.

Little wonder opposition parties are yet to form a government in Nigeria since independence in 1960.
Niccur respect is reciprocal..... How can you expect them them to respect a ruling party that deserves no respect. And besides PDP does not respects them, he intimidates them.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by MisterLongman(m): 10:20am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: The attitude you and several misguided folks are displaying is the crux of the matter.


Why is it that whatever the opposition don't understand must be wrong? Every policy initiated by the government must be wrong irrespective of the propriety of such policy.
This is the question most non-partisan Nigerians are asking.

Who told you guys that that is how politics is played? It is so painful to see that people cannot distinguish between nihilism and constructive engagement.

If you are not a good follower, how do you intend to become a good leader?

PDP is this, PDP is that...
Is the opposition aiming to outdo the ruling party in outlandish behaviour or to demonstrate that they are a better alternative by examplary conduct?

Does the Republican Party in the US set out to undermine the American government by showing to the outside world America's frailties as is almost the case in Nigeria?


Does the Labour Party in the UK go out of their way to rubbish the office of the Prime Minister just to score cheap political points or to engage in acts that undercut British institutions?

In advance democracies all over the world what we see are issue-based opposition politics and criticisms and not the desperado-style opposition being enacted in Nigeria where power is being sought at all cost.

Little wonder opposition parties are yet to form a government in Nigeria since independence in 1960.
Niccur respect is reciprocal..... How can you expect them them to respect a ruling party that deserves no respect. And besides PDP does not respects them, pdp intimidates them.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by wellmax(m): 10:23am On Sep 02, 2014
PDP had always wanted to weaken the opposition. What do you say about a government that does everything to handicap the opposition? Tell me any real government project in the states controlled by opposition.
Tell me one member of government that belongs to the opposition.
Even Mugabe has an opposition member as PM. Obasanjo had Bola Ige and Co. Which opposition member is in GEJ cabinet? Of course except he decamps first.
APC is being suffocated, little wonder some ex-PDP can’t stay there and this is not healthy for our democracy. But come what may, APC will survive.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by bibiking7(m): 10:23am On Sep 02, 2014
rman:

PDP have always been in power at the center ( presidency ), until they are no longer at the center , your logic doesn't apply

God bless you. Until PDP becomes the opposition before we will know how far. Plus, How on Earth can someone call PDP realist? They only set agendas but never achieve them. If they were really working towards achieving those agendas, reasonable progress would have been noticed over the course of 15 years. I hate Bola Ahmed Tinubu, i think He runs a form of oligarchy, i dont even believe in the party called APC. But I despise PDP. I also think the OP is just either campaigning for PDP or this his write up reeks of hypocrisy, because with the way the ruling party has been running the affairs of this country, I really don't think they deserve any form of praise. So don't try to paint PDP as good enough. Infact, i will accept all forms of criticism of the government.

P.S. Both parties can go to hell for all I care.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:23am On Sep 02, 2014
OseghaleEbosele: From the article above it is obvious that the writer doesn't know anything abuit politics, whether in Nigeria or in other parts of the world. I suggest he should study the situation in USA (Democratic Party vs Republican Party), UK and Australia(Labour Party vs Conservative Party), France (Socialist Party vs Union for a Popular Movement), Germany (Social Democratic. Party vs Christian Democratic Union) etc
So what is ur point? Tell us how they function and the help they are to the government.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Orunto: 10:24am On Sep 02, 2014
Ishmael vs Isaac; Arabs vs Israel; Islam vs Judaism; And the Unbelievers vs The Faithfuls. Period!

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